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Removing lining paper that’s been skimmed over

I’m looking for some advice for the best way to remove lining paper that’s been skimmed over.

I’m currently stripping lining paper which has been painted over from the walls of my new house.

We have two sections which have recently been skimmed over after we had two cupboards removed. The skim coat covered the area where the cupboards where but has crept over to the part of the wall which is lined with paper.

So those sections are: skim coat > paint > lining paper > original plaster.

I’ve since realised we should have stripped those entire walls before removing the cupboards.

I’ve soaked the wall with hot water and washing up liquid and scraped off the paper and I’m able to do this in the section that’s been skimmed but it’s a very slow process.

Is there a better/quicker way to do this? Or should I leave it as it is and wait for the plasterer to advise on how best to tackle it?

Any help gratefully received!

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u/J3ds8 — 1 day ago

How do you dispose of wastewater when working in finished homes?

On a building site, it’s easy enough—there’s usually plenty of rough ground or a designated washout area.

In a finished home, however, Mrs Jones probably won’t be too pleased if you pour it over her rose bushes!

Okay, Mrs Jones, I’ll pour it down the street drain...

“No! That will discharge directly into the next door river - the poor ducks!”

Okay… down the toilet?

“No! You’ll spill murky water everywhere—and I’ll blame you if my toilet blocks up five years from now!”

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I already scrape and scoop out around 95% of the plaster before washing anything, so large quantities of plaster and blocked drains aren’t the concern. The problem is the remaining bucket of cloudy, plaster-contaminated water.

I know about the fancy wastewater treatment systems, but nobody is going to pay for that setup on a small repair job.

What method or equipment do you use to dispose of the remaining wastewater in a way that is practical, somewhat responsible and socially acceptable when working in finished properties?

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u/Wiggly_Welsh_Worm — 1 day ago

Plastering and corners.

Question for the proper plasterers who know their trade, before I start slagging plasters (council ones). Genuinely how hard is it to create a square edge along where the wall meets the ceiling. (Not where 2 walls and the ceiling) Just along where one wall meets ceiling. Or where window recess meets window frame. I'm painting my daughter's room (new build) and where the wall meets ceiling is like an ocean wave. Is there a knack to it or I'm guessing apprentices have done mine. I've got full window frame at the top and hardly any as it goes down the window. How in gods name are you suppose to achieve a straight clean edge? Whether you free hand cut in or use tape it's only going to highlight the problem. Genuine question. Thanks in advance. I know it's council so their probably not going to give a shit but still, is there no pride anymore?

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u/Leading-Grape-5359 — 2 days ago

Can I skim onto existing lime plaster

Morning everyone, I have stripped wallpaper back off some walls and they're lime plaster, they seem structurally sound with no blown out spots so my question is can i just skim a 2 mm coat using limelite high impact finishing plaster?

Ive seen some videos saying I need key the surface but then others saying just to give it a sand, dust off and wet the surface and I can just skim straight on top, any advice would be welcome

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u/exmilgaming — 3 days ago

Advice Please!!!

Sorry I know this has been probably asked before but I’d really appreciate some experienced opinions on the following, as we’re getting conflicting advice and, admittedly, don’t know enough about plastering to know which way to go!

We’ve bought a 1908 ground-floor flat and are finally getting close to the plastering stage. The existing plaster seems to be mostly lime plaster over solid brick walls, and lime/lath on the internal walls, with a later skim over the top. It was all wallpapered, most of which I’ve finally now removed.

There have been lots of repairs and areas filled with bonding over the years, but as far as we can tell, most of the original plaster is relatively sound.

I have three main questions:

1. Blown/hollow plaster

There are quite a few areas that sound hollow when tapped. I’ve removed anything that was genuinely loose or crumbling, but we’ve been advised to leave the hollow-sounding areas alone if they’re not actually moving or coming away from the wall. This makes sense to me, but I’d like to check whether that’s generally the right approach. We’d rather get it right now than have to redo everything in a few years.

2. Sand/cement on the external walls

We’ve been advised to use sand / cement to repair the areas of blown plaster on the exterior-facing solid brick walls. However, everything I’ve been reading about older solid-wall properties seems to suggest that replacing lime with sand / cement can trap moisture and potentially contribute to damp problems.

Is this genuinely something we should be concerned about, or is the risk sometimes overstated? Would you avoid sand / cement altogether on these walls and if so what could be used instead?

3. Mesh and SBR on the internal walls

For the interior walls, we’ve been advised to mesh them and use pink SBR before plastering. Initially this sounded like a good solution, particularly given the mixture of old plaster and previous repairs.

However, I’ve since read that coating old walls in SBR can effectively seal them and reduce their ability to breathe, potentially causing moisture problems. Again, I’m struggling to work out whether this is a genuine concern in practice or whether I’m overthinking it.

I understand that the ideal answer for an old solid-wall building may be to use lime throughout, but unfortunately we simply don’t have the budget for a specialist lime plasterer to redo the whole flat. Equally, we don’t want to save money now only to create damp or mould problems later.

I’m now completely confused about the best way forward!

Any advice from people experienced with older houses and plastering would be hugely appreciated.

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u/irishscopion — 2 days ago

Help identifying material

UK based, 70s flat. Doing electrics and stripping walls for redecoration. Some of the sockets were quite badly chased in so we’ve been sorting that, removing the old plater job also pulled away some of the blown material.

Ontop of the brick is this render/plaster with a thin layer of grey speckled material (concrete skim?).

Just trying to figure out how to repair the chases and then also prepare the rest of the surface for painting. Most of it had a few layers of paint or thin plaster which just peeled right off.

u/ArcticFoxes — 3 days ago

Advice needed

Complete novice by the way. What are the next steps from this position right now. Do I plaster the pieces missing or would filler, sanding then painting do the trick? Thanks in advance.

u/Competitive_Sky_4007 — 3 days ago

Tadelakt shower mold

I had a tadelakt shower put in a couple of years ago. About a year ago I noticed a small amount of mold which then became larger. It's only here and a little bit in one of the corners. I haven't used it for weeks. I noticed that the grout on the tile is chipping, and water is probably getting behind the wall. My question is: what do I do? Will I be ok if I can get rid of the mold and re-grout the tile? Do I need to get the whole thing re-done?!

u/jbates434 — 4 days ago

What are you guys putting on in a hit on average?

So I do general building, I’m self employed but sub contracted to the same guy for a while now and working on a day rate. I do plastering but only what I’m comfortable enough to do and know I can get a good finish. Generally speaking he’s pretty sound but lately he’s been quite pushy on the plastering side of things. He’s paying me 175 a day CIS so I’m taking home 150. I’ve told him I’m comfortable doing about 2.5 bag hits, so about 5 bags in a day, I usually aim to do like an average size bedroom ceiling in a morning for my first hit, then 2 walls in the afternoon. Bare in mind this is with no labourer and I’m a multi trader so he’s paying for my experience in a range of different things, he’s been on my case lately that I should be doing bigger hits, but I just find any more than that and I’m busting a gut and panicking about the finish.

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u/Material_Page_9723 — 4 days ago

Looking for professional advice

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The plasterer whose team did the work have run away with their tail between their legs and will not come back answer our contractor or our engineer.

Our engineer came to do a report, but was incredibly quick, didn't check for hollow patches and is good friends with the contractor and has been friends with the plasterer.....so any advice would be very much appreciated.

Feels like he isn't working for us at the moment to be honest.

We have had another plasterer look at it for us to see what he thought, no skin in the game so knew he would offer his own opinion on the matter. He felt it was applied in one skim, not two, and was overworked to try and get a finish on it. So anyone who can offer any input is very much appreciated.

Have another guy who offered to have a a look for us this week too.

The electricians passed comment on the plaster being very crumbly when they were working. We had a lot of holes left around sockets/switches.

Our contractor insisted we prime the entirety of the house after we raised the issue on the first wall.

Products we know that were used:

•baumit

•thistle bond -multifinish

• thistle bond - bonding coat

Completed in 2 days by a team of 3, one labourer and 2 guys skimming. 70sqm house.

Includes 3m high ceiling in one room, with 7 rooms, lots of little ins and outs.

Our house was skimmed over sand and cement the end of January.

Been well ventilated and was moisture tested prior to applying anything to the surface, tested by the contractor for us.

Prior to priming the walls with a primer designed for bare plastered we had consistently noticed unusual patches on the skim. Some looked almost like finger marks as if someone had run their hands in a wavy pattern , some looked like scratches, and some patches were intensely shiny, others very chalky.

Since priming, have areas will not absorb, although entirely dry. Raised patches were the very shiny patches were. The areas that looked like finger marks are clearly bow the devil float marks coming through. The have matched them off photos of the scratch coat.

The scratchy marks are very clearly brush bristle marks.

There are areas when tapped you can hear hollow areas. Some of which have cracked.

Cracks are widening even with ventilation to prevent heat build up in the house. There have been some small chunks that have fell off in the last few days too.

All the corner beading has oxidised and rusted, and the mesh grid of the beading is visible and can be felt by touch through the skim.

So many of the screws in the timbers have been exposed as the plaster put over them has popped out too.

The patches are consistent through the entire house.

They have tried to blame EVERYTHING under the sun. Began with the primer, but they have all agreed the primer isn't the issue. Tried to say it was an alkali issue. Having researched this, it can't be that, also doesn't present this way. We even tested plaster dust after reading up how to and it is testing neutral.

When the plasterer did initially pretend he cared and would fix it the kept mentioning how it was definitely two skim coats and not one (when we had no mention or information at the time that it possibly wasn't, which feels very much like a "if we say it enough they'll believe us")

All the research we did when this first came to light around 3months back has pointed towards poor application. Which upon reading up points to excessive cracking, brittle skim, the patches keep coming through even after sanding/painting and even delamination.

Right now it feels like we are possibly facing all those things when everything gets added in.

u/thunderin_cunt — 4 days ago

Is this dangerous

My old 137 year old house still has some lathe and plaster ceilings this one has had the same crack since we moved here 3 years ago

Is this a danger to falling down? Can it be repaired without overboarding? It's a listed building so has to stay the same ish

u/Plus-Ad7235 — 5 days ago

access panel over drywall+plaster

I want to put access panel over valve. I have no idea how to restore the area above the valve and frame it for access panel. There is stud on left hand side, visible. Stud on the right is about 8 inches deep into right hand side. This looks like 1/2" drywall with some kind of thick plaster on top. House was built in Maryland in 1960. Should I put a flush mount panel over the entire area (15.5 x 18.5)? Should I add plaster on the exposed drywall area on the right hand side and put flush mount panel 12x18.5. Or should I frame the whole thing for a 12x12 panel?

u/Cute_Profit_2418 — 5 days ago

DIY Ceiling Skim

Hello, I have a textured finish plaster ceiling that I’m attempting to skim coat in order to flatten the surface. I haven’t done anything like this before, so I’m a novice here.

My two main questions that I’m hoping someone might have experience with:

  1. Would you try to sand this down further?
  2. Would you apply a layer of primer prior to applying mud?

I just want to prepare as well as I can before trying to skin coat. For reference, the area is about 150 square feet and the texture is in pretty good shape.

u/tville9698 — 5 days ago

What is our wall growing

Hi, just wondering if anyone can bestow some knowledge on what is going on with this wall. Roof is fine no leaks but there is rendering on the brick if that matters.

u/yaddayadda42 — 6 days ago

Skim or new plasterboard

Looking for some advice on this large crack in my ceiling. Would this require a skim or would it need a full plasterboard replacement? Any advice on what to look for what be great!

u/fnyart — 5 days ago

Advice.

Plastered my first wall today. Enjoyed doing it but wondering if I could get any advice from the pros? I pva’d the wall 24 hours before then about half hour before I skimmed it. Cheers👍

u/Serious_Literature26 — 7 days ago

What kind of plaster is this

I've stripped the wallpaper and this is the wall behind it, just wondering if anyone knows what kind of plaster it is and can I pva and multi finish over the top. Thanks

u/exmilgaming — 6 days ago