r/PokemonWindsWaves

Considering just how much hype and marketing Game Freak has put into the return on mega-evolution it'd be pretty strange if it were just suddenly dropped again after only one or two years since Z-A. (I know that it's in Champions, which will probably be supported for generations to come, but that's not quite the same...)

Now I'm not saying that I think it'll be the primary gimmick of Winds & Waves (especially since the icon isn't in the Japanese logo), but I can see them doing something similar to how it was handled in Sun & Moon, where it's a secondary postgame gimmick instead. Plus when the inevitable DLC gets announced, it could have a larger focus on mega-evolution compared to the basegame, and thus would be the perfect opportunity to introduce even more megas.

I've gotten flack for saying it on other Subs, but I still believe it bears repeating.

Bank Closing shows that these digital exclusive games are contingent on how long the company providing them believes is necessary.

Eventually, the Switch 2 eShop will go down, and Key Cards won't work to download games anymore.

If Winds and Waves are a Key Card like Pokopia was, we will be looking at a Generation of Pokemon that will become abandonware once Switch 2 servers go down.

I don't think we want to open that Pandora's box, and I know while Nintendo promised none of their main games will be Key Cards, Game Freak might go rogue with it.

Wouldnt we love to have this ace-in-the-hole move return to Winds & Waves?

Its been omitted from the main series games since Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon (2017)

If there was a podium in which we had a firm understanding of the new starter's secondary type, this would be in 2nd with Pombon in 1st and Browt in 3rd. I feel like we know and don't know what type it's going to end up, unlike Pombon where we have a firm grasp on its Fire/Fairy status.

Let's observe the design and description from the WiWa website. The head shape and large eyes indicate a cunning aura compared to something like the unsuspecting Mudkip or Sobble. The eyes are black and purple which can either indicate Poison, Psychic, or Ghost if years of color code conditioning are anything to go by.

It's description on the WiWa website states "This Pokémon launches springy balls of water from its tail. Gecqua is very intelligent and maneuvers shrewdly while putting on airs​." According to Merriam Webster, "putting on airs" means to act in a way that shows that you think of yourself as better than others, indicating that Gecqua will become a pompous Psychic type. But the line about throwing water balls from its tail doesn't fully line up with this, as there's not a lot of Psychic type moves that fit the description of flinging something, unlike Poison type moves like Gunk Shot or Sludge Bomb. Also, that pompous and toxic (ahh?) behavior could fit a Poison type just fine, just look at how Fezandipiti handled it.

Speaking of other types, let's explore Ghost. From an attack perspective, it could make sense for it since there's some moves that fit in with its description like Shadow Ball or Phantom Force. As for the theming, the pompousness could also come with a "pride cometh before the fall" aspect, with Gecqua potentially entering their low point during their first evo and overcoming it with their second evo. There's also the Bakunawa, which is a dragon from Filipino mythology that I learned about after Six Flags Great Adventure announced their replacement for Kingda Ka (and the internet isn't too thrilled about THAT). It's referred to by the locals as a dragon that eats the moon, which is what causes a solar eclipse (although the idiom can also mention a tiger or a crocodile). Since most Ghost-types are portrayed as nocturnal, it could be that Gecqua evolves into a Bakunawa and utilizes its nocturnal nature to counter the diurnal nature of both Browt and Pombon.

Speaking of dragons, the Dragon type. I saw this post also discussing the secondary typing of Gecqua, and conveniently happened to discuss the three previous choices as well as this choice. I understand why someone would want this, but at the same time, I am not sure about this one. How can you design a Water/Dragon Pokémon that doesn't clash with the Waves box legendary, which I'm already predicting as a Water/Dragon Pokémon. I'm not sure how this could work without double-dipping into this potential box legendary.

I'm not denying the chances of Gecqua becoming a Psychic type, but at the same time, I'm not ruling out other possibilities for it. And yes, I'm aware of that leaked Komodo dragon that's evolving from Salandit that could render my theory partially pointless, but the message I'm trying to get across is that Psychic isn't the only way forward. It's like Browt in that the possibilities are plentiful, but like Pombon in that we have some clue as to what the secondary type is. So, do you still have your heels dug in regarding Gecqua becoming Water/Psychic, or has this post opened you up to new possibilities that have flown over most other's radars?

Given that the only current confirmed Shark Pokémon are Sharpedo and the Garchomp line (which are Landsharks), Winds and Waves are a chance to introduce one or more new Shark Pokémon. And there are quite a few choices to choose from.

There are 3 species of Reef sharks in Indonesia: The Blacktip Reef Shark, the Whitetip Reef Shark, and the Gray Reef Shark.

There is also the Indonesian Whaler Shark- which actually doesn't seem to hunt whales and is more akin to a whale shark, because it is a species of shark called a Requiem shark

There are also a few unique reef-dwelling shark species to tap into:

The Bamboo Sharks- bottom-dwelling sharks that hunt for crustaceans and small fish in the sand on the floor of the reef

Wobbegong Sharks- which are a type of Carpet Shark, which means they have very flat bodies they use to aid in camouflaging themselves in the environment on the floor of the reef

Walking Sharks- a type of shark that uses its fins to "walk" along the reef's floor and coral flats

Any one of these families of sharks could make for some interesting new Pokémon to meet in the new region.

As we know the trailer for WIWA featured these two pikachus wearing costumes which i believe are named Mr. Windychu and Ms. Wavychu. Here's what I think they symbolize: in the beginning of the video at 0:50, the camera shows the person (i.e. the player in this case or the watcher of the video) looking at a drawing of a pikachu looking out at the ocean from a plank, and an undressed pikachu walks upto them and smiles. In the very next frame, the person opens a door and it opens onto a plank overlooking the ocean, very similar to the same scene depicted in the drawing. However, immediately after that, the dressed pikachus are introduced. I think it hints at a new feature of being able to dress up ur pokemon (beyond the partner outfits of lets go), as the transition (depicted by the opening of the door) from a naked pikachu overlooking the ocean to two clothed pikachus doing something similar could hint to that. The costumes worn by these pikachus could be version exclusive costumes which match the trainer (as the male and female trainers wear similar costumes later in the video) and could also be a gift pokemon given to us in each version to kick start the idea of dressing up pokemon, kinda how korrina's lucario showed mega evolution in XY

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Out of all the starters and their secondary types, Browt feels like it's the one most discussed to death online. We have ideas that Pombon will likely be Fire/Fairy and Gecqua will likely be Water/Psychic. But Browt is always the one that no one can definitively agree on, bouncing between different types based on different bird species found in Indonesia.

Flying: This is the one I want to happen the least. This would be such a letdown for me if they turned Browt into a Flying type. This thing is not Rowlet. Rowlet is a small owl capable of flight. Browt comes off to me as if it's incapable of flight. Who in their right mind would let this happen?

Fighting: This is the one I'm most expecting to happen, but I wouldn't be as excited for if it happened. I mean Quaquaval felt like a lesson in how not to design an Anthro bird starter in a year where Blaziken, Empoleon, and Decidueye already exist. People say Browt will evolve into a cassowary, and since cassowaries are known for their devastating kicks, this could make sense, even if this thing using Trop Kick seems ridiculous. I'd take a Grass/Fighting cassowary but wouldn't truly engage with it due to its rather cliche typing. Maybe it's just the Fighting/Ghost/Dark fatigue from Arceus and SV talking.

Ground: How exactly did people come to this conclusion? Is it because Browt will evolve into a flightless bird. It feels like if this thing does evolve into a cassowary, this is the choice that makes the least sense to me, as it feels like it wouldn't make any sense as a Ground type compared to Torterra. What Ground type moves can make sense for a cassowary when moves like High Horsepower or Stomping Tantrum feel more appropriate for quadrupeds than bipeds? Sure, there's Headlong Rush, but that feels more suited for the slower Pokémon that can use it like Torterra or Great Tusk than for something that will likely be more agile than them.

Steel: One thing I've latched onto is the idea of Browt becoming a Steel type, and it all stems down to one leak. I can't remember who posted it, but they mentioned that the Hidden Ability for Browt's final evo would be the same as Dhelmise's. Dhelmise only has one ability, Steelworker, which gives Steel type moves a 50% buff. Before you say "They'd never give it a x4 weakness to Fire moves" may I remind you that Chestnaught and Hisuian Decidueye have a x4 Flying weakness and Meowscarada has a x4 Bug weakness. Even the Mega forms of Sceptile and Meganium have a x4 Ice and Poison weakness respectively. I could also see the cassowary design implementing the type via the talons and casque (yes, that's what the bump on its head is called) resembling knight's armor, although in a manner that doesn't plagiarize Bisharp or the new Kingambit.

Electric: This is the dark horse candidate for all of these possibilities. Nobody's really thinking about it, but a comment I saw kind of made this the case for me. The official WiWa website writes the description for Browt as follows "This Pokémon runs about energetically while photosynthesizing using the leaves on its brow." This implicates that energy will play a big role in Browt's evolutions, and since Electric is the only type that focuses on energy. I can also see a lightning bolt design on the casque, as well as moves like Bolt Beak or Wild Charge. Maybe it's Hidden Ability won't be Steelworker but instead something that implements Electric and Grassy Terrain.

There are various possibilities for Browt's secondary type, but for me (and probably you if I'm being honest), there's always hopes and fears for what that secondary type could be. I kind of want to see what you think about my rantings, whether or not I'm wrong for not wanting a Grass/Flying pairing or for holding on to a random leak in order to justify a Grass/Steel pairing.

Since we saw Krabby in the reveal trailer but not Kingler, that could mean a few things. First, Kingler may have a regional form; second, Krabby may have a new regional evolution that looks noticeably different from Kingler and has its own distinct name; and third, it may be somewhere in between. Also, the line could go from two stages to three. Personally, I like the idea that Kingler is just getting a regional variant and a new evolution.

It could also be interesting, and a little fun, for the Kingler line to be a convergent line as well. Indonesia is home to one of the highest diversities of Squat Lobsters, which are Crab Mimics that inhabit coral reefs; their closest living relatives are Hermit Crabs and Mole Crabs. Hermit Crabs and Mole Crabs are actually classified as False Crabs; they don't belong to the same family as True Crabs.

I hope breeding in wiwa gets back the way it was. Leave two pokemon. Run around. Get an egg.

I did not breed in sv because all that sandwich making and picknicking was very annoying

I hope we get a way to hatch like 10 or 20 eggs instantly rather 1 at once,its tedious process ,some people say its fun, idk whats the fun in hatching lets say more than 5000 eggs just to get 1 specific female shiny