His jaw is so round and his hair looks soft. He's almost childlike and I like to imagine he's shorter than other protagonists, so much so that I could see some other party member/caretaker or antagonist (to use him for some ritual) cradle - carrying him...
I find it odd that they introduced the orangutan Pokémon in Sun and Moon with an Hawaii - based setting. The only native Hawaiian mammals are monk seals and bats, and this fits the majority of the dex not being mammals. If it were me, I think the lore would be an ancient manmade introduction for this and other species in an environment that doesn't allow them to evolve. Orangutan is a Sarawak word meaning 'human of the forest'. Making it evolve in WiWa region and become orange would be sensical.
I really believe that "The Monster Within" is also one of the game's main themes. That's why I think it's time to move on from repetitive character archetypes like the hot headed bro, the rich girl inheriting stuff from some late father and stuff like this. We already know MC isn't Japanese and that the mascot is most likely female.
Did you notice the weird handcuff shaped collar on the characters'neck? Rinko shows it much more compared to known MC references.
I do not only think that Rinko is going to be a "sis" character, but also a former delinquent who got arrested and was chosen to work for >!Hex!< (the main group) as an agent due to supernatural powers the detention place's staff reported. It could be that >!Hex!< is the one reforming Rinko to make "someone more useful to society" out of her, while regular police thought her to be too dangerous and aggressive (like: "That b***** kicked my collegue and bit me when we were trying to handle her" and "Really? Is such a particularly gifted individual so savage?". Accepting her strong side could be part of her character arc.
Also, please, if she replaces the "bro" archetype, let her also be actually smart.
The Persona 3 - 5S hot spring scenes are all the same: the boys get accused of peeping on girls, sometimes it's true.
Like I said there (https://www.reddit.com/r/PERSoNA/s/kJZvKDanVm), I'm not against spicy jokes, but they are only centered about spring on naked girls. You know, boys have erections when they get relaxed, for example. If you're jist gonna have spicy humour about the female body, you might as well remove it.
One user on r/vegan posted two videos from the Don't Forget Us Sanctuary, one about a duck and this one about a sheep named Kiki, who was born tetraplegic because of a virus her mother contracted during pregnancy. The sanctuary made wheelchairs for both. Kiki learned how to control her wheelchair to move around.
You may say "She dances around, aww", "She's happy and listens to music", or "Even if there are problems, I'd rather be paralized and surrounded by caring people than in a slaughterhouse". You don't know what goes on in a sheep's head for sure, and you wouldn't imagine a slaughterhouse before knowing the concept, like in a sheep's case.
I know we all more or less know Disney cartoons, with colorful dancing animals. But you must already be able to separate real life from that fictional world. In nature, the law about who can adapt better rules, that's why some disabilities can be bearable for some species, but not for others. There are no little animals going around and talking sweetly to each other, no schools for sea creatures reached by riding on stingrays, no musical clips. Animals are quite different than how they're portrayed. Simba would have devoured the warthog, Rufus wouldn't have had a good time living in the surface, Lady and Tramp couldn't have sucked up spaghetti, which can be harmful to dogs, and Bambi would have probably died, as he looked barely weaned and lacking the skills to survive in the woods, and his father wouldn't have recognized him so easily. In the same way, since this condition can't be compatible with welfare, this sheep isn't probably happy about her "life". I'll just tell you why:
- sheep are ruminant. They need to keep on grazing to stimulate their stomach, otherwhise, they can experience several medical problems, such as bloating because of germs, indigestion and ruminal acidosis;
- sheep are social animals that need a herd, and mere human caretaker contact can't make up for that;
- this condition leads to the inability to urinate properly.
It might be sad, but in these cases, euthanasia is likely the most humane option, because all of this can't be compatible with a digniful life for a sheep.
And don't tell me about eugenics, as there was a recent euthanasia case for a paralized woman in my country, and it was nothing so extraordinary. We often just think '"life good, death bad", when things are more complex, they aren't inerently bad or good.
All I see there is individuals being exploited for compassion and clicks by people on social media. The sanctuary must realize this isn't good.
I don't know if r/vegan will approve my post on this or keep denying the truth in favour of their utopistic bias.
Yosuke's scrapped romance won't be brought back in Revival - that's it - I was disappointed, because new options are what a remake should have, but it isn't this series' main problem.
You can say dating is a minimal part and you can skip it if you don't enjoy dating only girls in every Persona except Persona 3 Portable, but if it's an extant function in a game, why should half of the players limit themselves?
In JRPG series, the idea of a female main character is welcomed, you can see that with Final Fantasy (that has not, in some instances, been great at handling female characters, think that in most games, there are weirdly only three female party members that many try to ascribe to specifical archetypes), Fire Emblem, Tails of and Xenoblade. In the most popular games today, like Deltarune and Pokémon, the idea of homosexual romance and gender mattering less is highlighted.
So, why is it that only in THIS fanbase the sole idea of homo romance and FeMCs is so controversial? Persona had non straight romance possibilities and an adult woman as a MC before. Kotone in P3P wasn't mere "fanservice", as the original Persona 3 idea was having the player select between Makoto and Yukari.
Even Persona 5 had an early FeMC sketch.
It seems like too many male fans and "woke hunters" just feel threatened by the idea of another group being targeted by this now popular series aside from themselves. They always go "it's for boys anyway" even after all this evidence, comparing it to shonen anime, even thought they also stopped writing women for men. "Play something else", they say, but Persona games are unique, to the point that there are no "girl" alternatives and there won't be until Atlus really changes direction, starting from 6, or someone else develops their own Persona - like.
A character with the same love for animals and social ankwardness as Fluttershy wasn't in any Persona. I could see this as a way to subvert the bro character in the party. This ankwardness might be combined with neurodivergence and/or bad parents;
Haru from 5 was gonna be closer to this, but they likely changed it last minute. I think the bow girl might be this at first, as it DOES align with the sterotypical Yamato coldness.
Gyarus are often depicted with darker skin. A character with a similar aesthetics could be Okinawan. Combine this with their imagology (superstitious, almost magical) and you fit the occult theme.
Most Persona talking mascots want to become human or end up feeling like them, but what if they subverted this with one that doesn't identify as a human, but temporarily becomes one with consequences, like feeling typical human things.
I wasn't worried about Persona 4's scrapped romance in the first place, I was more concerned if that could mean the same for Persona 6.
And I know romance is a really minimal part in Persona and you can skip it, but still 1) if you are a straight girl playing Persona, why should you feel left out from something the game includes? 2) We don't know how they'll handle it in this specific title. 3) Why is this (and female main characters) so controversial in a series about pursuing your true self?
Since it's a different game, they can't bring out the "too much work to rewrite the SL" excuse once again.
Someone on 4chan posted a pic of beta bag UI with placeholders in the form of two Moltres named "bird of paradise 1" and "bird of paradise 2" . They also posted this, saying that:
- Browt's evolutions are a mishmash of a cock and other birds that eventually becomes heavy, like a fighting cock, presumably;
- Pombon's evolutions are based on ballons and zeppelins, with a tail that becomes a mixing brush (?) and throws fleas (?);
- Gecqua's evolutions are a mage gecko and a weird mage that uses ghostly things (?).
Someone under the post, maybe an alt, said that if you fall for it, you're a r*tard... 4chan...
However, it's likely BS, because:
- the elements in Pombon and Gecqua's evos seem to be contrasting each other (a balloon with... Fleas? In Pokémon? Or a writing machine that generates demons?);
- the beta UI pic is real, but it only has placeholders, so, it's unlikely to have starters, that in eay builds were replaced by Pikachu named Fire, Grass and Water, just like those Moltres.
Alternatively, they could be exaggerations, like Kabula in Pombon's final evo might hint at a mane shape, or fur that inflates, Browt isn't obese, but thick and muscular, Gecqua's final evo might have eye - like (or bindi) spots.
Another reply from OP shown Trevor from X/Y, going "is this the professor? No, by any means". This either hints to tbe opposite or to a character resembling him, because it'd contradict several Teraleak docs on why not many characters are back in Z - A and we had a Kalos game already.
https://boards.4chan.org/vp/thread/59556121 this is the original post
Believe me, I fell in love with Persona 6's first trailer. But these things said by people working inside ATLUS made me feel sick in the stomach. The female audience matters so little to them? It's heartbreaking to see that much of this regressive stuff impacts even their games: why is such a problem to date your bro and other male characters, but you can date adult women with a tone of statuatory rape just fine?
I've completed their annual survey, you can search it up yourself and I made my opinions clear. I added Persona 6 to my Steam wishlist, but these things are actively keeping me from getting into the series. And even if you go "But these are games made for boys", I wanna ask you to name a game made for girls that is just as qualitative as theirs. Will there be a day where we won't be seen as a weaker human or an afterthought?
This is actual stuff said by ATLUS game directors. Seriously, why are women still viewed like this? This stuff made me feel sick in the stomach. It breaks my heart to see their view of the female audience. I fell in love with Persona 6's first trailer, but now I'm doubting the possibility of getting another ATLUS game because of this stuff. The problem is that there are no actual alternatives "for girls and queers" that are at the same level of Persona.
The female audience is still seen as an afterthought even in this decade. You can't date boys, except for Persona 3 Portable, so why is it normal to fate adult women? I just HATE that there are people living their fantasy like this, thinking "I'm so strong, any woman is my servant".
I've participated in their annual survey, still, I'm just shocked.
It's not solely because of this lack of gay romance, I'm aromantic IRL, Persona 4 felt too "soft" and goody two shoes. And at times too "male oriented" don't ask me why. Actual progressive stuff (finally, in 2026: remember we supposedly have gay romance with our bro in 2 from 1999, and I may probably start from there) would have drawn me more. This is even more ridiculous than P3R's lack of Kotone, and that was more believable as it's a whole different route, something I'd dream P4 and 5 had. Now, it's not only the female audience that constantly has to suck it up, but even the LGBTQ+ one has to once more.
See, I fell in love with Persona 6's teaser, I've been actively fantasizing about its story and characters, but the devs seem to make every excuse to avoid progressive stuff in a series about pursuing your true self. And, from what I know, I'm also one of those who understand that Naoto isn't trans, just influenced by a small town's regressive environment, and that Kanji isn't gay just because he can sew well. This is a shame and reduces my hope for gay relationships and lack of controversial relationships with adults in P6, thought the team is different. And I'm sorry to say all of this.
To stop those who'll say "It's a series aimed at boys, what were you expecting?" where are female oriented games then? Are those like unicorns?
If you can't date all female characters, why can't you restrict male options too with this excuse? Yosuke and Kanji were enough.
I'm disappointed. Just sorry. But the most succesful games nowdays, like Pokémon and Toby Fox games are inclusive...
>!Locke and Rachel - Final Fantasy VI!<;
>!Yosuke and Saki - Persona 4!<;
>!Junpei and Chidori - Persona 3;!<
>!Zero and Iris - Megaman X4!<.
All of these cases I found, which I put in order of notoriety are all strictly from the male character in the relationship. Since then, given that we even have remakes for some of these games, I never found almost any example of a female character outliving her love interest because he was sick or killed. I'll never understand why is it so hard to show female perspective on protective attitude and loss: biologically speaking, we're the more protective ones, as stranger males can be prone to aggression and killing unrelated newborns even in our species. Thus, men are often victims of violent crimes, so the male perspective in some cases wouldn't be erased.
Besides Final Fantasy XII, are there examples?
Since we're just at Persona's sixth chapter, we might think that Atlus already ran out of ideas if tropes were repeated the same as 4 and 5. What we see instead is a game closer to the first three Persona titles and with probable focus on the Western audience by two evidences: the blond haired and green eyed MC, who is probably a foreigner because of this, subverting the Japanese MC we had until now, and the setting, likely Yokohama, Japan's most culturally diverse big city and the first to openly contact outer countries.
Given this is part of the premise we've seen, even in a non legit manner, I wanna make a reminder of how the teaser was: a game cutscene filled with twisted graves overlapping each other with a headless statue. This place is likely a distorted version of Yokohama's Foreign Cemetery. This representation of death isn't humble or respectful, it's rather dark and gloomy, with no athmosphere of respect. Then, there are letters forming the sentence "Who are you?", along with the face of a person formed by various cut traits. This led many to believe that one theme might be identity. Most importantly, I think it'll also be about the value of identity on a self vs a cultural level and the risks of losing it. Aside from this, "Who are you?" might also have another meaning.
Yokohama's di cemetery is deemed haunted by some. In SMTVV, that came out roughly after Persona 6 likely started being developed seemingly teases things such as an occult school group and esotheric practices, thought occultism is the base of the whole Megami tensei series, so it might be vague. In this context, "Who are you?" might be the first question an occult school club would ask when contacting spirits. In short, the identity theme could also be explored throught tragic stories that people forgotten or ignored that this supposed occult school club will bring back to the spotlight. The dungeons might be created from the restless victim's spirit negative feelings, while the bosses could be the shadows of their murderers and such. Going further, the spirit might also serve as a temporary navigator. All of this might be heavily influenced by crime fiction, as true crime sparkled in popularity since 2020.
Analizing the leaked party members beside the MC, we see that the ones we know the design of are both girls. The one beside the MC is seemingly named Rinko Kusanabe, while the one in the first pic with the black bow is associated with the name "Sam", thought there is no proof the leaker Lololailo claimed it as her actual name, so it might be a case in which he wanted to reproduce a sound, since both Japanese and Chinese use ideograms.
Rinko: since she is so close to the MC, I think her character will be fundamental to most of the plot. The most plausible theory is that she will show evident supernatural powers that might allow her to communicate with the dead and may already be able to summon her Persona before MC awakens. About her personality, she might also have a typical "bro" one, maybe because she'll likely be the first party member. She might be an outcast in school because of her attitude and strange powers, so MC will happen to meet her.
"Sam": this character is basically confirmed to be a party member because Lololailo said she'll fit the 'rich girl' archetype. While in previous games, the conflict was related more to inheriting property from late parents or more or less, to parents, who knows if there won't be any of this with her. I personally like to think her arc will feature a late love interest plotline: the fact she's from a wealthy family might merely be relevant if her father, or parents for that matter, will be in contact with someone who works in marketing, maybe foreigner, with a son her age and the two might get close. Since I believe Rinko will be a sis, this character might make players think he'd be a bro, but then he gets murdered, which would subvert a notorious trope 2/1 modern Persona bro characters have, since I also hate how male - centered these plotlines are (the exception is Final Fantasy XII, and the situation is even sightly different). It would also be nice to defy the male fantasy stuff, since it'd be a reminder on how often men are victims of violent crimes.
By having this idea of victims connected to the party creating dungeons in which they awaken their Personas, I want to make clear how much the identity preservation theme might be strong, even subverting the way previous Persona games were about how the individual perceives the oustside, 6 might be about how the outside perceives the individual.
I tried keeping my posts up in Persona related subs, but, I don't know why, they were all eventually taken down.
And yeah, most comments went "it's cathered towards boys" and similar stuff, while others brought up the budget problem. A solo FeMC is possible, but we gotta see in P7, however, adding a FeMC route in 4 and 5 (there were multiple attempts) would have been a breath of fresh air, you can see in these mod pics, as something would have changed based on who you picked. The worst are those who insisted Persona MUST be for boys, even to the point of deeming Kotone's addition in P3P a mistake, 'cause we're "entitled" for being interested in more options like that in other games. And why is that Persona is 'for boys'? You could romance boys in 2 and its sequel had an adult woman as a MC. Then, doing what they're probably trying to do with P6 (catering to a Western audience) is much more challenging than trying to have more female geared games.
In other JRPG fanbases, like Final Fantasy, people want another FeMC (thought damsel distressing and only three girls obsession issue remains), in Tales', everyone loves Velvet. Why is Persona "for boys"? Because it's popular? Is this underlining that girls' opinions aren't worth as much as guys', as there is no popular game catered strictly towards a female audience? Why do games have to be strictly "catered"? There's a reason why Pokémon and Toby Fox games are so popular, they're inclusive.
Nowhere is written that Persona MUST be for boys (like any other well known and loved game or anime, for that matter). Atlus should start from P6, even thought MC is a boy, to make games that are for the boys, but also more female oriented, by having female characters like >!Rinko Kusanabe!< be as important as the MC, or finally reversing usually male centered tropes, like having trauma related to a late love interest or partner (we had it everywhere with males, from Yosuke in P4 to FF6 with Locke, who are just small examples, seriously, why do we never see it with opposite genders?).
And I'm also tired of pretending a FEMC option in Persona 4 and 5 wouldn't have been fresh for an alternative route.
I don't get why having FeMCs is only so controversial in the Persona fanbase, the Final Fantasy one aknowledges it did and can do it again, Tales fanbase loves Velvet... But there you find people who even deem Kotone's addition in P3P a mistake. A very early P4 sketch shown a possible female protagonist and Kasumi from Persona 5 Royale was probably meant to be a female main character, but the game was already too long to program a different route.
Persona 7 would be fire having a fixed female protag.
Seriously, it needs to be terminated. Why is Reddit a breeding ground for these beasts?
I know why many vegan people may get upset when you frame it as a cult (and no, hivemind, animal sacrifice isn't a thing in all cults, the opposite), because framing a lifestyle and ethical choice as a cult isn't fair.
The fact is that, even thought you won't admit it, the internet and social media made it so easy to create cultish spaces, so that extremistic ideas vegans show on internet (from Disney - esque ideas about animals, forcing carnivorous animals to become vegan, thought it isn't healthy for them, even ideologies that frame any domesticated animal as a slave) have more ways to spread.
Online spaces often create echo chambers that dictate what one from that group has and cannot do. Reddit, for example, just makes echo chambers an easy phenomenon, so the "us vs them" mentality gets way stronger, alongside the cultish behaviours (and cults now spread even thanks to social media)
This isn't just about veganism, as even media fanbases act too often like this, creating a toxic environment.
Was Rinko Kusanabe really teased in P5 with "a woman who can talk to the dead"? Could you post the screen?
If it's about contacting the dead, do you think we'll witness the disapppearence of some confidants, then find out about their murder? It would be clever to use Social Links and confidants even in the main story, if they're connected to cases and to party members. And please, if there has to be a dead love interest trope like Saki, let us know them, and let them be male for once, I already said how I hate that these kinds of plotlines are so male centered. I've seen a man with part of his arc being about getting over a late love interest way too many times.
Do you think we'll get the Persona equivalent of Fullmetal Alchemist's infamous human - dog chimera moment? Like, the one case that involves a more shocking death for a wholesome character that might mark how the game from that point on won't be joking?
It's almost THREE years since I couldn't make new videos for my channel. When I saw it was starting to make 3000+ views with my latest videos, I wanted it to grow and I wanted to bring the content to a whole new level, making 30 - 60 mins long videos with a webcam and no longer just parallax, my profile and pics.
I had a hard time fixing my studio, getting s new gaming PC, a decent webcam and mics, but, most importantly - since editing whole 30min - 1 hour videos after writing and filming them takes too much time for a single person who doesn't even study such things and I don't want to castrate my art by shortening video content - I need a partner who edits..
That's right - the problem is that every editor I found went away with an excuse or the other, like "I need to work on my video editing site" (which is still not a thing, weirdly), "I have exams" (some saying this still made edits for himself and others), "I'm gonna go on holiday right now" (still ghosted me after). I found some on Discord server, the most recent ones on Reddit. The last one I had claimed he wanted to help me after I made a long vent post on my general situation (not just about the videos, but 2/3 years was stil a heavy toll on me). This user came and said he lived in the same zone as me (for those who don't get why I don't want DMs, one of the reasons is I'm from Italy). After many talks on Discord, both chats and calls, even about personal things, when he even associated my loneliness and lack of support with "not having sex" (I still tolerated him), I really had to make a video between the end of February and early March. Althought I couldn't find a way to finish the script or completely film it until March 27th, I still came up with a video that should have already came out since months. Guess what he did? After I passed the half cleaned video to him (40 mins long), he messed it up with below amateur half - editing and just ghosted. I threw it all away after burning out trying to fix his mess. Now we're in August. My channel is still a barren landscape because of this person, who probably just wanted a pretty little "girlfriend", as he insisted on seeing each other in person in Naples, probably thinking I was more naïve than what I really am as an adult. Blaming me because bitterness hurts your fewings? Well, I was never disrespectful to him, Discord chats prove it.
Another person I met at the same time is a legit editor - yet she is far and lives in Milan and wants to do it "out of pity" - I understand hoew she feels sbout me, but if the relationship has to be based on pity, or shall feel like a cold job contract, I don't want that.
What I need is a capable person who can:
- use programs such as Davinci Resolve or After Effects;
- is reliable and has studied editing.
I was willing to pay them, but I don't know where to look, as sites like Pronto pro or Fiverr can hide scams and dangerous bots. Can you help me? Please avoid joke replies or dismissing of burnout feelings after all that has happened, let's discuss seriously and avoid DMs, as I don't trust Reddit users anymore.