r/SaltFighter

Something I never see brought up is the prevalence of attacks that are cutscenes.

More modern fighting games change the camera angle completely, focus on your character getting attacked, it's like a mini SA1/2/3. It's meant to feel good as the attacker, but it makes an annoying interaction even more punishing as the defender. It breaks the flow of the match entirely.

Ryu and Ken anti air? Action continues, right back into it.

Sagat anti airs? Big cutscene, close up on your jaw getting slammed, big action impact frame! Dumbass!

Alex anti airs? DRAMATIC ZOOM! You dared to jump, idiot? Look at you! SORRY LOSER! THIS IS GONNA HURT!

Yasmine hits a quarter circle forward in Bayani mode? HAI, HOY HOY! Time to watch the DRILL, MOTHERFUCKER! Followups included, time to watch SA3 btw.

Base roster characters don't have half the seasoning and spice that characters coming out now have, and it's only going to get worse the more characters come out.

If Ryu were season 3 DLC, his denjin Hadoken would have the animation of his SA1. His OD donkey kick would zoom in on the impact of Ryu slamming his foot in your character, and the rebound off the wall before shifting to the normal camera. His normal shoryuken would angle the camera downwards and rise as you slam your fist into the opponent's guts.

It's annoying. Why can't we just skip all the flashy shit and get to the fighting? All it does is slow everything down to a crawl.

It legitimately felt that I was fighting legit players.

Like players that played like humans and made mistakes on their wakeups.

Who didn't just happen to guess correctly 25 times in a row against a player they never played before.

Their movement felt a lot more normal.

I don't know, it just felt like I was playing against humans for once. Why the difference is this huge between PC and Console I don't know

There isn’t a single reason why Alex should have an answer for everything in the game in his prowler stance. I feel like prowler stance has literally 0 counterplay right now unless spaced properly, which is relatively hard considering he can dash up -> lariat to catch you with your pants down. ALSO his light spam into flash axe being unpunishable or charge heavy into flash chop taking away ridiculous amounts of drive gauge.

It feels like as if Ed’s kill rush had 5 or 6 different follow-ups. Or simply imagine if Ed had kill rush follow up similar to lariat. If Capcom would have given this to Ed i feel like the community would’ve lost their shit.

I would have lost anyway cause the character is bullshit, but the guy had a 1.1 Throw Escape Average. He teched every single throw in our matches.

I'm scouring random replays but haven't anyone above 0.8 even.

Reported him ofc. 🤡

Street Fighter 6 is so fucking weird because I keep saying I dont like this game and I'll probably just drop it because no one is forcing me to play and I'm not sure I'm having fun and then an hour later I'm back in ranked or I'm hopping on the second I get home from work or trying to fit a set in or two before I have to leave.

This game is just so much more annoying to do stuff in. Like not having a dash button. It'd make doing something as simple as button -> drive rush less annoying to do or at least more consistent. And don't get me started on DI. How did they create a tool that's so obnoxious at a low level and then barely used at a higher level? I dont even think its that bad, its just annoying. Ah yes I love losing 1/3rd of my health because I pressed Cammy's 5hk one time and they just happened to DI.

Though honestly? As much as I think stuff like drive rush makes the game stale at times, I do enjoy the resource management aspect and wish more fighting games had something like it. I really enjoy Uni partially for this reason actually!

I think what bothers me the most about this game is being stuck in plat. I feel like I've been here forever. The whole experience has been going on 10 game win streaks, losing a game, going on a 9 game streak, losing a set, win 4 more, lose 6, and so on. I've been bounced back and forth through plat 5 for a week now. I can most definitely get out though. I just have to lock the fuck in. Consistency is definitely my biggest issue. I think with a few small adjustments, I can play at a Diamond level easily. Masters is a whole different deal though. I think the issue is how the average player in Plat just isn't particularly fun to fight. You can tell what kind of player they are instantly when the game starts. If they aren't the type to spam cross up jump, never block on wake up, and mash on everything? everyone else just loves to just back up permanently. They either walk themselves back into the corner while trying to bait a whiff out of you or so they can jump over you and put you in the corner instead. Or they just up back and keep you at a certain range. Like they'll up back until comfy and throw fireballs. If you approach they'll keep up backing. Sometimes these guys are strangely hard to fight and sometimes they're the easiest games ever. I think I just dont understand why these guys dont just play zoners instead if they're gonna do that anyway?

It's weird how the randomness of the average person you see in Plat makes them harder to fight than the Master players I've fought

This is gonna sound weird too, but I have no idea how you deal with attacks that leave you standing. Like Rashid's tornado or Yasmine's little flurry? (I realize idk what they're actually called or what the inputs are) You recover fast enough for them to be able to immediately throw you after hitting you but I'm pretty sure they can just bait your throw tech attempt... so like, what do I actually do? Guess for my life?

The most common characters you run into are menaces constantly too. Like, a large majority of my games are Ryu, Akuma, and Ken. All of these characters are just nightmares to play into. As far as Ryu goes? It's just never my turn. If he gets started, I basically have to spend drive gauge on a dp or drive reversal to get him to fuck off. Ken is generally whatever. I just dislike dragonlash. Plus on block move where he just throws himself at you into a mix up because fuck playing neutral right. Now Akuma? holy shit. He does so much damage. Not to mention the command throw? I'm getting hit by that shit every single time. And do not get me started on his standing heavy kick. I know you can duck the first hit, but its not hard to get clipped by it because of how far he moves forward when he does it. When you do get clipped by the first hit you gotta hold whatever bullshit he has in store for you after unless you're willing to spend the meter to get out.

I was watching Punk play Mai after the nerfs and I noticed he'd do a LOT of poke into shimmy to bait throw tech attempts and I just wonder if Street Fighter was always like this or if this is an SF6 thing where throws are particularly oppressive outside of the typical throw loop situation. This isn't a salty thing or something that annoys me but rather a genuine curiosity.

uh somethin somethin holy yap

I seriously hate playing against these characters. Absolutely dreadful. I'm trying to play Street Fighter not Mario Brothers, jumping and dodging projectiles is stupid. Seriously these characters deserve no rematch from me.

Next time they match me up with these characters, I'm just going to disconnect. Fuck'em.

Fuck this homeless ass divorced ass POS mashing low jinrai on me and cornerswapping out of any fucking button he chooses hes still broken and ken players have a mental disorder where they have to convince everyone their character is a hard working Real American Patriot or they die instantaneously.

Is being an absolute idiot a requirement to play sf6 ranked?
every player i run into is playing ryu,ken or any of the other shotos,flops around like a fish out of water,DI's at every minor inconvenience,will ALWAYS ex DP on wakeup guaranteed and then get lucky with throw loops and 50/50's and oop's you guessed wrong there goes a third of your healthbar.
Like seriously does noone learn fundamentals anymore? For the record i am in Plat 3 with Manon,maybe it gets better at higher ranks but honestly im not so sure.
It feels like such a breath of fresh air running into anyone who ISNT using a shoto and is on classic controls

You cant jump on him because he has a million anti airs in it. you can't drive rush into him ,you can't fireball him. You cant jab him out of it or jump him because he has an armor move

Lol ,this is fucking dumb as this has no weaknesses.

There is literally no reason to rematch this character until they make it vulnerable to atleast where you can hit him out of it

I want to start by saying that this isn't an especially EFFECTIVE strategy. I beat these kinds of players about as often as I lose to them. But is IS exceedingly fucking annoying. Basically from round start, their first and only prerogative is to walk backwards as far away from me as possible. It doesn't matter if they do or don't have a projectile. their main objective is to maintain distance from me and then do nothing. The idea, of course, is to make me press a button first. As soon as I whiff, they're on me like a shark that smells blood, and after the interaction we reset to stage 1 ie: fucking nothing. I remember dealing with this "you press a button first so I can react and punish you" shit back when I played smash ultimate, and it was a decent part of why I stopped playing that game. It's a real shame to see the same kind of behaviour here. It's a fucking fighting game, people! FIGHT ME!!!

And if you're curious, this is occuring at master rank (1300-1500) with a variety of characters (Ryu, Marisa, Mai, Sagat) so this isn't just a case of noobstrats either.

guile doesnt get enough hate. its ironic how Capcom found a way to make guile of all characters a neutral bypass demon.

Whats the counterplay? at what spacing and timing is fireball drive rush not real? Even when I land a miraculous perfect parry and cancel into a button, my button still trades or outright loses with Guile’s drive rush button. 1 mere bar of drive to put me in RPS and immediately regen that one bar back? How is this fair, drive proportional offense?

I posted a few days ago about looking for more people who play my most hated match ups and had a great response. I’ve not only increased my blood pressure but I’ve gotten some solid experience from it.

I wanted to put the invite out there for anyone else who’s interested in playing against others in the Salt Fighter community. The majority of us are in NA or those timezones, but all are welcome.

https://discord.gg/PWUVZvYJsG

I’ll fight anyone/ any character but if you play any of the characters below I would really love to fight you, whether or not you join us.

CFN: Lady Gief
Region: NA (Could possibly play EU)
Rank: Master
Main: Zangief (… pretty sure that was obvious, but I ONLY play Gief.)

My Most Hated & Worst Match Ups:
- Sagat
- Kimberly
- Mai
- Blanka
- Dhalsim
- Manon
- Lily
- Jamie
- Dee Jay
- Ryu
- Yasmine (character bores me to death and lack of exposure)
- Bison (not a hate thing, I just suck against him)
- Cammy (same as Bison)
- Akuma (same as Bison)

for context im in diamond 4, but istg every yasmine player fights like a dog on blow. Drive Rush, Drive Rush, Jump In, Jump In, Random Boomerang, Random Boomerang, send full fucking combos on block that are safe for some reason. AND because she does no damage the match takes a fucking eternity. Hooray!!!! Who the fuck finds this shit hype????????????

Jesus christ the hype has worn off and I audibly grown whener I que up against one of these silverback gorillas

Just for context, I play Marisa and Zangief, so I do not have a real reversal that I can use on wakeup aside from using my meter.

A lot of people keep barraging me with light attacks whenever I am down, and it leads to this extremely annoying loop, where if I get hit by any of them, it goes into a knockdown. If I block them, they either wait for me with a frametrap, it turns into a tick throw situation, or it just goes back to neutral, except now I've lost drive gauge.

Aside from not getting knocked down in the first place, is there anything I can do against this sort of offense? Or do I just have to take it?

Best I can say it that I didn’t allow a perfect round. He was so damn fast!

Every player that plays this fucking character plays like an absolute fucking loser.

Every 10th post in the main subreddit is people begging for more outfits to spend their money on. Same community that rightly complains about the game so much for DLC characters pricing is begging for purely cosmetic content that costs almost as much as a brand new character. This community needs to get a grip. It’s a fighting game not dress to impress.

This game is so unbearable to play sometimes, man. Like, if you win the people you fight either rage quit or one and done, and if you play a crazy person who neutral jumps like their life depends on it and lose a game to them, they’re one and done. You like, c’mon man, it’s like the more I play this game, I find it hard to believe there are people who actually enjoy playing like this. And when I look at their profile, they have hundreds of hours, sometimes even thousands of hours, played. I just don’t understand how you can actually have fun doing that rather than just playing the damn game. And I’m not saying I’m good at the game and that I deserve a full set or anything, but Jesus man, I would just like to play against you more than one game and try to figure out the way to beat you. In my opinion, that’s what makes the game fun, but oh well, I guess lol.

Hadn’t played in a while and finally got back on and omg, I just don’t know what I can do against DI

I know it’s a skill issue, it’s an honest mechanic and it’s my fault for not catching it, but I just have to complain 😭 it sucks the fun out of the game for me sometimes.

Im hard stuck platinum-diamond so lm not saying it’s not a skill issue. But in the lower ranks it’s just CONSTANTLY used. Everyone and their dog is spamming tf out of DI as of their life depends on it, and you’d think I’d be able to react, but I can’t! I’m always a second behind. It doesn’t help I have boo-boo ass WiFi so I’m always a second lagging behind in some matches. God forbid I press it myself and my opponent whips that shit out in no time

It’s like I expect it, I know it’s coming. Somehow it conveniently always manages to pop when I’m throwing out a heavy move I can’t react to. I stg that happened like ten times in one game alone.

And I don’t know what to do playing as Ingrid. I love her but so many of her buttons are so short and stubby. But relying on stand h.kick is clearly not working out. I don’t wanna be an ass and spam fireballs and laser beams I straight up feel like have no way to get close safely

Anyways, thanks for listening to my rant. SeanCody signing off

I have started to self harm after loses cause I get so angry at myself for making stupid mistakes. Stuck in diamond 2 and I’m just too fucking stupid to play this game.