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SD44: Need Tutorials on Tactics

Okay, I have learned enough about the mechanics to move my units around. Now I need to learn where to send them and why.

Can you guys recommend YT channels that offer indepth explanations on where to position your various units for maximum effect? I think VulcanHDGaming and Stealth17 have some on this very topic that I will start going through. Is there anyone else?

Just to be clear, the source doesn't have to be on YT. I'll be grateful for written explanations of small unit tactics.

Typo repaired.

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u/Voldemort_Poutine — 1 day ago

Proud as a Peacock Strutting Down the Runway at a Big NYC Haute Couture Show. My Very First Win in an Eugen Game and I Have Only You Gents to Thank!

u/Voldemort_Poutine — 3 days ago
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Simultaneous Campaign Turns

While this is probably too late of a suggestion for WARNO that already has an Army General Campaign system, I think AG campaigns in Eugen games would really benefit from having simultaneous turns. Both players (or the AI) would order their units around on the map, and then upon resolution, units would move.

Two units being told to move to the same point from afar or attack each other would lead to an engagement battle.

Two units close to each other that were both ordered to attack each other would lead to a close engagement like in Steel Division.

One unit attack another that was holding its ground would lead to a breakthrough battle.

Battalions available (other than the initial two units) would be ones that are in the area of the battle, similarly to how it works now

Air missions would be ordered out beforehand so you could send out a SEAD wing, a Fighter wing, and a bomber wing which could negate AA defenses without wasting your CAS or fighters.

I especially think this would be fun in PVP campaigns where these simultaneous turns would add an interesting strategic element to gameplay where players need to consider opponents moves when making their own instead of reacting to what their opponent had done during their last turn.

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u/BillyYank2008 — 3 days ago

SD2: Cannot find the solo battles that come with Tribute to Normandy 44 (and other DLCs)

I installed the T2N 44 DLC correctly, or rather Steam installed it for me. So that's that, as Jordan Peterson used to say. No install screwups.

I am strictly a SOLO player currently and not interested in the Army General games.

For some reason, I am unable to locate the DLC skirmishes that come with the aforementioned DLC:

**About This Content Celebrate Steel Division history with the Steel Division 2: Tribute to Normandy '44. This new major expansion introduces 14 of the original Steel Division: Normandy '44 divisions to its massively popular successor, Steel Division 2.

Covering the Normandy campaign in 1944 from D-Day, June 6th, to the Liberation of Paris on August 25th, Steel Division 2: Tribute to Normandy '44 is a long-requested community expansion, featuring battlegroups such as the Allied 101st Airborne Division, elite British Guards Armoured Division and French Demi-Brigade SAS special forces, to Axis Festung Groß-Paris, dreaded 1. SS-Panzerdivision "LSSAH", and the one-of-a-kind 91. Luftlande-Division.**

Hmm, no mention above of any maps. <--Is this a key piece of the puzzle?

When I enter the Historical Battle lobby all I see is an eastern front list of battles. There is no option for the western from battles in the DLC.

When I enter the Skirmish lobby, it's the same thing. No western front Skirmishes or Historical Battles. When I launched the Ostronow skirmish, I was amused to see a Russian BG vs Scottish BG matchup. (I would never set up a skirmish like that.)

WHY CAN I NOT FIND the western front skirmishes? Do they not exist? Did I buy a DLC that just comes with divisions from the original SD? Oh oh, spaghettio!

BTW, I also have the Hell's Highway and Liberation of Italy DLCs and can't find any skirmishes from them either.

Final thought, if all these DLCs don't come with maps only divisions, I still can't find most of them. Where's my beloved 101st Airborne, for example?

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u/SirWinstonGerbel — 4 days ago

Normandy 44 or SD2 for me and my son vs AI battles?

I own both games, with quite a few DLC's I picked up on sale. I've only played 10-12 hours between them but enjoying it.

My 12 year old son has been watching and really wanted to play too. He's fairly competent with games but this level of fast paced tactics is new to him.

He's played a few hours on Normandy 44, he's doing ok but needs a lot of my help and he'd rather we played MP together.

Since both are on sale, I don't mind buying another copy so we can play together. I don't want to buy both in case it's only a passing interest.

Which do you think is the better game for an absolute beginner of his age, considering he doesn't have years of experience of strategy games? I started playing the Close Combat games in the 90's and have been a big military tactics/strategy fan ever since, but even I've met a bit of a learning curve. He's only played a few RTS games like AoE II, SupCom etc.

Normandy 44 seems like the smaller scale might be less overwhelming for him, but then SD2 has quality of life improvements which might make the mechanics easier for him to master? Any advice appreciated, thanks.

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u/ten_shunts — 5 days ago

Which is better, Steel Division 2 or Steel Division Normandy 44?

Purely from a gameplay POV, ignoring personal preferences to certain fronts.

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u/Trace_R — 5 days ago

Steel Division 2 Confusion

I have been slowly learning the Eugen mechanics with SD 44. Last night I fired up SD 2 and tried a small map skirmish.

I assumed all the maps were eastern front based on their names. To my confusion, after picking the Russian side, I found myself playing with a British BG. The unit markers were red, but the units were British. Talk about confusing.

There weren't any Russian BGs in the drop-down menu of BG options.

Do I need to create a Russian BG if I want to play as the Russians with a Russian BG?

Is this the default setting of the game, or did I miss something when I was selecting my side and BG?

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u/Voldemort_Poutine — 6 days ago

AI bullying me with artillery (new player)

Hey,

Please I need advice before I ragequit this game I fell in love with. I have about 90h in so I understand the basics. Recently I play only skirmish 4v4 with and against AI (medium or hard).

But I just cant enjoy any game, AI is spamming artillery like crazy and it takes it 1 milisecond to spot my forces in forrest and in 2-3s artillery barrage is coming. So I moved them, same thing they somehow know or see me for a second, rinse and repeat. Its super hard and annoying when I manage only one location, but how the fk do you manage to look at 4 different locations, managing 80 units and not get your infantry completely smashed?

My questions are:

  1. how do you deal with ai artillery? For me, counter battery just DOES NOT WORK, It TRULY feels like AI hits exactly what it aims for, whereas I have 6 155m cannons hammering 1 artillery piece for 6 minutes and for the love of god I cant destroy it, max pinn it. I even brought a deck with 22 artillery pieces and that wasnt enough to country battery. And dont start me on planes, ai has AA everywhere, no plane is getting even near anything.

  2. do you really believe ai doesnt cheat and has only "great" memory? I swear to god, I put 5 infantry units in the middle of forrest where nothing can spot them, look away for 10 seconds, look back and they are all hammered to pieces.

  3. How do I destroy enemy aa or artillery with my own artillery? Sometimes it hits, other times I have 8 art pieces shooting at one gun and cant kill it in 5 minutes.

  4. How do you advance with infantry If ai artillery constantly aims for them for eternity?

Any tips are welcomed, or is there any mod or setting I could use? I really like the game, except this, I HATE IT. No player is able to spot my units at 8 different fronts at the same time and micromanage his artillery like god ai, I dont believe it.

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u/Yozko14 — 7 days ago

DS2 dlc advice needed

Hey guys sorry if this was posted before I could only found one post from 5 years ago.

I just bought sd2 general deluxe edition but got very confused about dlc's can anybody explain if they are all worth it in general, are they only adding new campaign missions or they are also adding stuff to the whole experience and what the nemesis dlc series etc..

u/Tonewickermx — 11 days ago

DLC suggestion

I had already got most dlc and only Men of Steel and Dukla Pass left. I know the infamous SSB and 715 div being a menace so I guess they are quite good or necessary in PvP?

Though I'm a big noob here and mostly play with ai, so enjoyed playing some unique fun division and Dukla got some interesting stuff as well. Anyway I assume Men of Steel is still a must-have? Would love to hear other opinions

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u/datnoobisbloodthirst — 10 days ago