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Tagged for all books just in case

I'm nearly finished with the book, 2nd time, and this caught my attention, when Dalinar and Ishar meet and fight:

"Despite earnestly trying, none could land a blow. It was as if they were trying to hit where Ishar was, while he was able to move in anticipation of where they would be"

Does this sound like Atium (obviously not Allomancy) to anyone else? Maybe he can use his powers to access fortune in a similar way to Atium?

Maybe it's one of [WaT] >!the Herald powers we learned about but don't know much yet!<?

So I have been thinking about Second arc of Stormlight Archives and what to expect. Here is the compilation of what we know and my predictions/wishlist.

Confirmed things about the second arc are Flashback characters and prologue. Brandon has confirmed that 6. Lift 7. Renarin 8. Ash 9. Taln and 10. Jasnah will be the flashback POV characters. (sequence may change but characters are confirmed). He has also confirmed that the prologue in second arc will be another major event having five POVs just like first arc and Gavinlar's assassination. Another confirmed thing is that second arc will focus on Heralds just like the first arc focused on radiants.

I have used Spoiler markers because my guesses will reference Stormlight Books 1 - 5.

Now what I believe most certainly be in the books. >!Prelude to Voidlight Archive and Postlude to Voidlight Archive!< >!While reading WaT, Postlude to Stormlight Archive confused me a lot. My question was that the series is not finished, so why not an Interlude and why a Postlude. But when Brandon said that in his mind, he thinks of two arcs as Stormligh Archive and Voidlight Archive, it clicked to me. There will most certainly be a Prelude to Voidlight Archive in Book 6 and Postlude to Voidlight Archive at the end of Book 10.!<

>!As for the content of this Prelude/Postlude, I don't have any idea. Arc 1 had Aharietiam in Prelude, which set up a big plot point behind the scene as to why, how and by which mechanics do heralds operate. This whole plot resolved in heralds coming together one final time. I don't know what the end of Book 10 will look like but most likely, Prelude to Voidlight Archive will set up some plot/mystery for overarching arc.!<

Epilogues: So the epilogue of each book in first half in an important event/explanation/exposition from the POV of Wit. I don't see that changing in the second arc as well. As for the specifics of each of the epilogue, my best guess is as follows. Also, I am assuming that the with the pattern/symmetry in Prologue and flashback character structure, there will be a pattern/symmetry in epilogues as well, which is not confirmed.

Book 6: >!Kaladin/Taln/All herald return to Roshar. At the end of Book 1, we see Taln returning to Roshar and announcing desolation. My best guess is that at the end of Book 6, we will see either Taln/Kaladin or all the heralds returning to Roshar for one final push. I don't believe we will have to wait more than that to get heralds in the thick of action. Afterall, the second arc is focusing on heralds. Also, maybe throughout the Book 6, we have one consistent Intelrude POV of Kaladin/some other herald to see what is happening.!<

Book 7: >!Shallan escapes Shadesmar. A perfect mirror to Jasnah escaping Shadesmar in Book 2. We know that second arc's scope will be wider and it most likely involve shards, cosmere and worldhopper more than that in first half. IMO Shallan will be the "leading authority" for off-world threats and wider cosmere (barring Wit, obviously) for the second half, and may also team up with Wit (like Jasnah did, except romance side).!<

Book 8: >!Wit focused epilogue. Just like in Book 3, where epilogue's focus is mainly on Wit and him bonding Design, I think Book 8 may also have a focus on Wit. Post that, I don't have much to add. Brandon said that he is going to do some weird stuff in second arc so idk.!<

Book 9: >!Wit meets with Valor. At the end of Book 4, Wit meets with Odium (thinking he is Rayse). As the closing of penultimate book of the arc, my guess is that stakes have become very high. There are some hints or indications that Valor is somehow involved in what is going on Roshar and fourth moon and stuff. If ever that was to come out, my best guess would be at the end of Book 9. I don't have slightest idea of how this interaction is gonna go and what will happen but it would be really cool.!<

Book 10: >!Wit on Scadrial. This one is the most guesswork for me. But assuming that the conflict on Roshar has come to a satisfying conclusion or escalated so much that story on Roshar is over and now will move to entire Cosmere, Post-Stormlight, Mistborn Space Age era will be the next major triology. Now I don't know if Brandon will have an Era 4 like Wax and Wayne and Space Age will be Era 5, but we know that protagnist of Space Age Mistborn Era is Hoid himself. So it would be safe to guess that epilogue of Book 10 will be post-conflict of Roshar and setting up future events in Cosmere with proper farewell to Stormlight series as a whole.!<

Now these ideas are tenuous at best and obviously not really a concrete predictions. But this maybe the direction where Book 6-10 may go. And it will be cool.

I am very open to all the thoughts in the comments.

What happens to Skybreakers now? Can they use Warlight to use their surges? Are they allowed to even if they can? They are (technically) on the winning side, they actively supported Odium in the war, but their spren shpuldn't be very happy with the current status of Roshar.

Ok so I just got past the meeting between Adolin and the Parshendi and have to say I’m a little annoyed at the “master plan” Dalinar has concocted. I’m obviously going to keep reading to see how it plays out, but come on! The leader you’re meeting with tells you that they now only care about winning the war and killing your army, no more games, and your response is to appeal to the high prince’s sense of duty…then march out to meet the enemy regardless of who joins you??

I understand all the high princes are selfish, egotistical bastards, but it just pisses me off that this wouldn’t be a unifying call to end the war then let the high princes hunt and fuck around as much as they please. Honestly the only justification I can think of for Dalinar’s line of thought is that Sadeas would flip the script and accuse Dalinar of being in cahoots with the Parshendi to lead them all into a trap. Even then, I can’t see half the high princes even buying that, not including the other light eye nobles in the war camps.

Also giving more of the shard bearers a spanking and taking their shards would only reinforce Sadeas’s point and leave the other light eyes in a position to not want to help the lord with the most shards. All in all it just seems like a truly not well thought out plan that is charging full steam ahead towards disaster

Hello veterens

Just started way of kings

Any tips

I am not finished with the first, or maybe the only, Hearthstone segment in Part 1. Kaladin just laid Roshone out and I’m hooked.

I was looking forward to the reunion between Kaladin and his parents. It went pretty much as expected. I think we all knew that his mom and dad wouldn’t blame him for Tien and would just be happy to see him. I also expected them to treat him like the child he was when he left.

I still don’t know Hessina’s and Lirin’s situation. I expected them to either be destitute or run out of town. Hessina was about to tell Kal something before Lirin interrupted. My first thought was that Hessina and Lirin were estranged on some level because grief does that sometimes but I don’t think that’s it. Knowing Brandon I probably won’t find out until Part 4 lol.

Anyway I haven’t been this excited since Dalinar gave up his shardblade.

Ok might as well put some other thoughts out there. I’m glad there’s no explicit indication that Adolin is going to the dark side… yet. We haven’t been in his head so who knows. Him carrying on as normal is a bit concerning.

I don’t have any predictions for other characters or factions. The Sons of Honor, I don’t know what to make of them. The Ghostbloods are despicable and I hope Shallan/Veil takes them out. The Diagram? I kind of think they are seeking the right solution by the wrong means. This whole series feels like a Philosophy 101 course which isn’t a bad thing.

Ok my one crazy theory. I want the Ten Fools to be real. Except they aren’t fools, just… less idealized versions of the Heralds and maybe more invested in Roshar’s future. I’m thinking of Palona, who has to be at least a Herald. Of course the Fools and the Heralds could be one and the same which would make a ton of sense.

Sorry I just had to take a quick break and appreciate this moment. I actually stopped reading in Part 5 of WoR a couple years ago so it’s super exciting to continue into the unknown.

Deserves >!to bear the shard of honor, he never broke. !<Bro is the only >!herald who really respects their oaths. He also wasn't present when Honor sealed away Mishram and had no part in that sin. I know he's slated for a flashback book in the second half of Stormlight Archives. !<

Do we think Taln>! takes up the shard of Honor at some point? !<

I'm going through the wind and truth right now, and in the prologue, gavilar says that dalinar is a big dumb oaf (or something like that, I'm doing audiobook). I feel like the actions of gavilar in the prologues show that he is not as smart as he thinks, and over the course of the series dalinar is shown as a tactical genius as well as being able to understand a lot of subjects. His failures in politics are not due to lack of intelligence but the lack of experience as well as multiplied attacks from more prepared individuals. In the end, I think that dalinar is actually smarter than gavilar. What do y'all think?

I wish he survived to see it all

Just want to hear some cool Shallan theories...

(Ps : am I only one that is least intrested in shallan's upcoming plotlines in the second half)

I'm chest deep into another round of listening to Wind and Truth, and I was reminded today while listening to ch. 100 that Roshar was created as a celebration of the divine interplay between mathematics, numbers, and music. This suddenly got me thinking (can't believe it never occurred to me before) that **maybe, just maybe** Pattern's iconic "MMmmMmm"s, and those of all cryptics, might actually be attuned to the various Rhythms of Roshar. The more I think about it, the more I love this idea.

What do you all think?

So, finished OB part 2, and it was amazingg. the Odium reveal was so peak. I don’t have anything to rant about really, except for shallan’s character in general. i love shallan, do not get me wrong, but her different personalities are so weird. the fact she refers to them as different people is insane. i understand that she’s all about lies and stuff, but it’s weird nonetheless. ALSO i loved the interlude after part 2, where the soulcasting savant died. describing her body evaporating and everything gave me the creeps. now it’s time for character ratings.

LAST PLACE: Amaram. fuck amaram.

SECOND TO LAST: Moash. fuck Moash, but his chapters were fun to read.

3rd: Shallan. she is a little annoying to read, but she’s fun nonetheless.

2nd: Kaladin. he didn’t even have a PoV in part 2 but he was still lovable.

1st: Dalinar. same reasons as my last post.

now question. i’ve read over half of stormlight back to back. i kinda wanna take a break and go into Scadrial/ Mistborn Era 2. is it okay to take a break from stormlight? if anything, im gonna read AoL/SoS and then go back into RoW

My personal theory is that at the end Kaladin will take up the shard of honor and become a herald-shard-knights radiant hybrid, Now tell your theories

Edit the Adolin theory is perfect and make sense with his character Arc why haven't I heard this theory before..

So I’m halfway through Rhythm of War. Urithiru has fallen, the Radiants have been immobilized, The Sibling is shielded (for now I think), and Lirin is trashing on Kaladin still for not becoming a surgeon.

Listen, I get where Lirin is coming from. Better to save lives by literally saving them rather than killing people. It makes sense. It’s the right thing. But it’s so unrealistic in this world. It’s hard for me to agree with Lirin when he says stuff like things are going to be the same regardless of who’s in control.

Now I understand Kaladin is going through it right now, that boy has some serious PTSD. Fighting, especially solo, probably isn’t the best thing for him. But for Lirin to come at him like “I told you so” just doesn’t sit well with me.

I’m interested to see where this occupation leads! Also shout out to the soldiers and their commander Teofil. What an epic last stand, broke my heart to see them die.

I've been reading the cosmere universe in publication order and this is what I've read so far in order:
Elantris
Hope of Elantris
Mistborn Trilogy
Warbreaker
The Way of Kings
The Alloy of Law
The Eleventh Metal
The Emperor's Soul
Shadows for Silence in the Forests of Hell
Words of Radiance
Sixth of the Dusk
Allomancer Jak and the Pits of Elantia
Shadows of Self
Bands of Mourning
Mistborn: Secret History
Whitesand Omnibus
Edgedancer
Oathbringer

So I've just finished reading Oathbringer a few minutes ago and I want to share a couple of random thoughts. This is not a review of any sort.
It was an amazing and a very enjoyable read, I would say that the fight in Thaylen City in the last 200-300 pages got kind of boring toward the end but was still readable without wanting to put down the book. In my opinion, in the Stormlight Archive series so far, Words of Radiance has been my favourite without a doubt, I loved the chapters where Adolin has a 4 v 1 fight and Kaladin helps him. However, the main reason I loved Words of Radiance was the last 300 pages, I genuinely could not put the book down, I read the entire thing in almost 1 stretch, the entire part with Kaladin and Shallan in the chasms was so emotionally well written and engaging.
Oathbringer was quite good, I liked Dalinar's backstory, I really hated the old Dalinar who killed Evi, but I like the man he has become. I also really liked that Brandon didn't make a very complicated love triangle with Adolin, Shallan and Kaladin. The few flirty moments with Veil was alright, but if this went into a full on love triangle drama I would've stopped reading, I don't like those kind of dramas.
One thing that I did not like in Oathbringer and in Words of Radiance too was the lack of a reaction in some phases. Mainly these 2:

1. In Words of Radiance, we don't see at all how Shallan reacts to finding out that Kaladin is a Radiant, it kind of just cuts to her acting like its a known fact.
2. We don't see any reaction of Kaladin finding out that Szeth is still alive and is now supporting Dalinar.

I don't mind the second one too much, because I didn't really care much about Szeth and Kaladin's relationship, but I was extremely disappointed by the first one, pretty much the entirely of the chasm sequence was leading up to Shallan finding out that Kaladin was a Radiant, and Brandon never gave us a reaction of any sort, I wish he had given a few lines of Shallan's suprise and shock just to cleanly close out that sequence.
I'll be picking up Dawnshard next and then Rythmn and War after that, Stormlight Archives has been crazy good so far, I hope it continues.

I am currently listening\reading through the stormlight archive books, they have reinvigorated my love for reading that I lost over the years. The story, the characters, everything is awesome. Michael Kramer and Kate Reading have done an awesome job with the audio book readings.

We all know the classics.

“You can not have my PAIN” from Dalinar

“Honor is dead, but I will see what I can do” from Kaladin

But hands down my favorite line, especially in audio book format is from Maya. “Adolin…. were you a SLUUUUTTTTT”

The delivery had me laughing like a mad man as I was walking my dog down a crowded trail.

10/10

Screw Moash

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