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In The Modern Tordesillas, the US can support the Republic of Colombia instead of the Revolutionary Union, yet I still get public backlash if the Revolutionary Union collapses. I also do not receive public goodwill if the Republic of Colombia wins. Is this an oversight by the devs?

I've seen guides but they're all from multiple years ago so I don't 100% trust them, how do I Harringtonmaxx?

Hello everyone. First of, I've been interested in TNOs lore of WW2 for a few years now, but I've never really meaningfully played the mod. I recently rewatched Swinceball's TNO USA part 1 video, and saw that RFK apparently has a focus to declare war on Japan.

So, is that actually the focus or did I misinterpret that one specific focus? How do I declare war on Japan? As I want to retake all US territory lost during WW2. Does the conflict become a regional/pacific conflict or does it turn into WW3 and end with nukes flying? How do I get RFK, how do I get him elected, and how do I get him reelected? Is there a path guide in the game, or somewhere else maybe? What are some things to generally look out for?

I'd greatly appreciate it if y'all could help a beginner out here. Thanks

Hello, it’s me again. Not to long ago I made a post proposing what a GO4 TNO2 path sould look like, you can read it here. I recommend it because you will need it if you want to understand what will be going on in this post.

So, what will I be doing now? Well the truth is that I cannot leave my project behind just yet. The reasons behind that are all the little mock-ups I made for the different endings. The site I used to make them is utterly fascinating and amazing. Here it is, it is also wonderful for visualising the political changes. And to answer the question I asked myself in the beginning of this paragraph: I will be making some mock-ups on how the endings of my previous post could turn out, good and bad. I will also be classifying them on plausibility.

The Democratic Coalition Endings

The Base '82 election from my previous post.

So one of the possible outcomes of the election of ’82 was that the coalition/electoral agreement/partnership/friendship consisting of Christian conservatives, middle-class interests, liberals and left-of-center neocorporatists win. So what happens if they fullfill their mandate succcessfully and the people are happy with their steawardship over the country? Well, they get rewarded of course! But most of the praise will go to the leader of the coalition and that will be the CVP.

A truly christian Germany... And democratic too.

So, the German people are happy with Barzel and have found a renewed interest in religion and acceptance of democracy. Following this result, the Democratic Coalition will no longer be needed in the eyes of the CVP and Barzel is ready to cut some dead weight. The SPD-like party is first to go, who needs those whiners anyway? Next up is the question of the liberals, Will Barzel kick them out in favour of the REP to complete his vision of a true Christian Germany, or will he put up with them for the sake of stability?

On the other side the nazis have shrunk again, they’re still dangerous, but they are slowly approaching the fringe of German politics and not an immediate threat.

only a momentary setback... right?

But what if the years between ’82 and ’86 don’t go as planned? Maybe a mismanaged crisis, a slump in the economy or even an international embarrassment could make the Democratic Coalition’s popularity fall sharply, resulting in renewed successes for the nazis. But that doesn’t mean that the nazi’s get into the government, the Democratic Coalition does just barely have a majority, so they stay at the helm. The defeat does mean that Barzel failed so someone new gets the post at the head of the Coalition, which is Helmut Kohl. Let’s hope he can revers Germany’s misfortunes.

Still destined to accept a coaliton with the CVP...

And now the first implausible ending^(2)! A Liberal win with no other then Helmut Schmidt at the helm. Why Schmidt? Because he is a national liberal in TNO, maybe that will change but for now I take what is in the game now as a basis. Sadly for the RB they still need to work with the CVP to get a majority, which means secular reforms are off the table.

Long live neocorporatism?

Cue implausible ending^(2) 2. An SPD victory! Who could imagine that? A leftist party in control of a country that was far-right for 40 years with only a slight moderation in the last 10? On a serious note, the German left would be nothing more then slightly irrelevant for decades with no other role then a minor partner in coalitions if they’re really needed. But on a positive note, finally a portrait in colour! Isn’t that a little poetic?

Also June 1933 was the month that the enabling act was passed and the SPD banned so I was referencing that. Now that I think about it I could also have done “June 22^(nd) Avenged”, that does sound better. Or maybe just “1933 avenged”, Tell me what sounds better.

The Populists Endings

Populist base in '82

Another potential winner of the ’82 elections are the populists of the REP. So, how will they do? In my humble and totally-not-biased-opinion I expect that they do not do well… If politicians promise big things, they rarely satisfy the populace, but that could also open the door to new opportunities…

Moderation in all things

In this ending, Schönhuber fails most of his agenda and loses the trust of the German people. What does that lead to? Well to Handlos apparently. Handlos was one of the founders of REP but wanted it to be the federal version of the CSU irl. He was generally more moderate than Schönhuber and I think he fills the role for getting the party back on track.

The REP does lose some influence but due to the moderation a coalition with the CVP is likely.

I do not know what to put here

But what if Schönhuber was successful? Well… more of the same, mostly. Perhaps (or definitely, depending on your level of cynicism) Schönhuber will do an Orban and firmly entrench his party in the new German democratic framework.

I didn’t say it in the main post, but by god this election poster is the perfect template for a portrait. Just look at the way he stares at you.

Does this make you uncomfortable? It makes me uncomfortable.

(Please note that everything depicted and imagined here is in the context of the TNO universe and not a representation of my beliefs)

So… I have chosen to be safe here because I think the focus I’ve depicted here can be taken in a certain non-flattering context…

That power corrupts and increases the want for more power is a well-known belief and/or fact. So what if it proves right for Schönhuber and his REP? Like many megalomaniacs before him, he will construct a personality cult around him and thoroughly coil himself and his lackeys around the organs of state. Resulting in something that can be considered fascist if your standards are low.

But What About Pape?

Nazi win in '82

A few years or months later...

This one is fairly straightforward. If the nazis win the ’82 elections they will waste no time reestablishing their chokehold over Germany. Of course with the popularity, prestige, and political capital that Pape has collected with his victory ha can weasel himself right through the Reich Senate and be appointed as the New Fürher.

Interestedly this opens the door for Pape to implement his vison, and his alone. The time for the National Socialist Revolution has come! (Please note that I do not condone this rhetoric and ideology). I find it a little funny that an obscure faction of the NSDAP can get into power with only a tiny litte detour of 14 years. But alas, Germany is once again chained to its past pretending to look into the future, perhaps forever…

Or does it have to? I got this idea from a guy/gal/neither on the discord so thank you. What if Pape fucks up so incredibly much that a revolution breaks out? And not just a revolution but a socialist one?

It even has a new flag!

This is so incredibly implausible and unrealistic that I don’t even know what to say about it. Except that it’s perhaps a little funny?

Anyhow, thank you once more for reading this. And have a good spring or autumn, again...

Been wanting to play this route again, because my first playthrough of it was years ago, and I largely cheated that run. So I decided to replay it as legitimately as possible. And safe to say, it's still a GOATed path.

Guilt.

Was it really a victory for Schenck? (Note: To get this focus you need to bee-line down the left focus tree all the way.)

The hidden player only path, leading Südwestafrika down the path to Angolan (and Namibian) freedom.

\"The journey to liberation has begun!\"

Südwestafrika will have to reach out to America to support their independence movement, even if they may not know what they're investing in. Their support is needed, or else Südwestafrikan independence will simply turn into a speedbump for the Schild and OFN.

What Wolfgang Schenck really wanted for Reichkomissariat Südwestafrika.

As tempting as it may be, the war must go on. Otherwise, Hans Huttig will simply take over Südwestafrika and Zentralafrika. That must not happen. (Also, if you're gonna try this path, be prepared to get spammed this event)

Any attempts at African freedom is bound to raise suspicion from other members of the Afrika-Schild. These actions are to lower their suspicion. And if Südwestafrika befriended the CIA, the latter will also help with operations to lower suspicion. (Though to be honest, the suspicion mechanic is kind of forgiving.)

The last 3 focuses for the Südwestafrikan freedom focus tree. Who can say, how Schenck will be remembered? For both being a Nazi administrator, yet also fighting for African Independence in his last days.

Südwestafrikan Independence. (Namibia will follow suit.)

Depending on the choices you took in the liberation focus tree, Angola will be given various bonuses depending on how far Schenck was willing to go for their independence under the suspicion from Huttig and Muller.

The fight for Angolan independence.

Namibia will break away from us, forming a Nazi government that aligns with the Schild. But after holding them off for 2 months, Sam Nukoma ends up seizing control and declaring independence and neutrality in the South African War.

The cost of continuing the war for several more years. Thankfully, there were only 12 Ostafrikan divisions left by the time this happened, so there was no hope for a rebound.

...Might have annihilated the Schild a bit too hard.

But thankfully, due to me knowing how to use console commands, this is what the Total OFN-Südwestafrikan victory would look like.

The world just got a little bit brighter.

Overall, I fucking loved this path. I loved how despite it being several years outdated already, it still manages to have a compelling story. And I think that it's up there with Zykov/Bunyachenko's Samara in terms of how redemptive the entire story felt. To see a Nazi collaborator consumed by guilt and trauma, to finally doing the right thing in his final days, (it's implied that he flew his plane towards the sunset until his plane ran out of fuel) and giving Africa a real fighting chance to free itself from Nazism. It's such a shame that this path is barely talked about, unfinished, and going to be replaced by the Débrouillez-Vous update soon. But regardless, I think that this is deadass one of the best timeless hidden gems in TNO.

How do you unlock the Iberian Century at the end of an Iberia play through? During my run I had won in every single proxy I was involved in yet at the end all I could do was aligning with the OFN despite the fact I had spent most of the run fighting against them. I think I may do another run Iberia maxing. Do I just need to win more proxy’s and in my last run there enough didn’t fire?

I've only played until the death of Salazar due to always falling into the iberian Wars. In OTL Franco approaches Juan Carlos, grandson of the last King of Spain and set him as sucesor to the head of state. Are there even mentions to the royal family? If so, is there some support from the caudillos to them?

In OTL speer was sentenced to 20 years and after that he lived life of a "good nazi

But in tno when borman/heydrich win GCW

While go4 is killed speer somehow survives and escapes to us and gets political asylum there

So the questions are

1 wouldn't it make more sense to have go4 in US that speer

2 how speer that in tno done more horroble thing than in OTL doesnt get any sentence does he did some saul goodman shit thing