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In a terrible AMBarrassment, the AMD 9800X3D "gaming flagship" barely outperforms $99 Intel entry level chip

In a terrible AMBarrassment, the AMD 9800X3D "gaming flagship" barely outperforms $99 Intel entry level chip

I guess the only answer is Intel if you like to game in modern resolutions. AMD is just the 1080P CPU I guess?

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u/Distinct-Race-2471 — 3 hours ago

Old Fashioned 12th Gen Intel Chips Embarass Newly Re-Released AMD 5800X3D in Shameful Showing

I can't imagine buying a chip like the 5800X3D that is so much slower and pathetic than the old fashioned Intel 12th gen. Intel is clearly the DDR4 champion. It isn't even close. When people buy this AMD and run benchmarks they must be saying, "Where's the beef?"

u/Distinct-Race-2471 — 4 hours ago

am i going to have issues with the connector like this?

Seems flush out of the card and seated solid but I’m deep into the rabbit hole of people burning up these 12vhpwr connectors and would rather not burn up a $1000 GPU

u/redditmadethis4me — 11 hours ago

Question about all in one printers that have been in storage for multiple years

We have two printers that had been in storage for multiple Years and we're trying to figure out whether it's worth putting any money into them to get them working. I'm one of those people who tries to get full value out of things and if something still works, even if it doesn't work great I'm usually going to opt to stick with it rather than buying a new one of whatever it is. Having said that I have seen articles/comments about how the average expected lifespan of a home printer is between 3-5 years. Having said that I'm fully expecting those of you who replied to say don't bother with them and buy a new one but you can't get an answer if you don't ask the question so here it is.

The first one is an HP Officejet 5746 that was last used apx 2 years ago.

The other is an HP Officejet 6500 Wireless that was last used apx 8 years ago.

I know that ink for both of these will be no good and at a minimum those would need to be replaced by the 6500 power cable is also missing so I would have to replace that which on Amazon is going to run me around $15-$17.

Is it pointless to attempt to get either of these working and should I just immediately go to purchasing a new one? Any advice will be appreciated.

u/ZepTepi49 — 9 hours ago
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RIP 9800x3d

Was playing Meccha Chameleon last friday, around 10:35pm my pc suddenly froze, had to press hold the power button to restart. Then after that, my pc failed to post. Dram light is on. Reseated processor, removed the thermalright contact frame(v1), reset cmos and flashed bios. Same issue, dram is still on. Went to a repair shop to test my ram, mobo and processor. Voila, processor doesn't turn on even with a new motherboard.

edit: Correction, i was using thermalright v2 contact frame ​

Motherboard: asus strix x870-a

Ram: kingston fury 32gb cl30 6000 mt/s

Processor: 9800x3d

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Cpu does not have any burn marks. My settings was vsoc set to 1.23. pbo ppt set to 120, tdc 100 and edc 100.

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Too bad i bought this cpu from another country, without any receipt too(Bought from a scalper around november 2024).

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Now i have a nice keychain.

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u/Distinct-Race-2471 — 3 days ago
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Intel i9 14900K @ my local Walmart in the clearance section.

Before you comment understand I have used a 12600K and an i5 14600K before I saw this monster for $297. I am slightly versed in the VMIN sift issue, the BIOS updates for the microcode applications, E-Core/ HT disabling for FPS. When i saw this I knew it had a home with me. <3 I also have a 9800X3D and now this i9 on a DDR5 Z790 platform. This i9 makes the 9800X3D look like my old i5 14600K. For me to tell the difference between the i9 and R7 9800X3D I would need a new monitor... probably a higher skill level, also a better GPU than my 3080 Ti or 9070 XT LOL and NOT be playing on 1440p :D

Plus being sealed, new in box with proof of purchase, I am pretty sure I get a 5 year warrantee. Not that I will ever need it. The BIOS on my MB was up to date from the first seat, I plan on locking the cores, setting a heavy undervolt, limiting the voltage to 1.4v, disabling HT and E-Cores all together, running a lapped 360 AIO with a Thermalright contact frame. Basically I have a chip with 8 strong P-Cores only. Temps, power and voltage stay low even under 100% load it kisses mid 70C

I couldn't be happier with it especially because my 9800X3D AMD system just... aint it. It feels sluggish after you get use to raptor lake. Sure it games fine but really I like how instant everything on this intel chip seems to operate. Reacts now... not after it thinks for a moment.

u/Diligent_Mastodon105 — 2 days ago

Anyone That Bought Cheap High Speed DDR5 for Intel Alder Lake, Raptor Lake or Arrow Lake Are Next-Gen Ready. What about AM4 or AM5? Probably Not!

Anyone that bought DDR5 and Intel Alder Lake, Raptor Lake or Arrow Lake is way ahead. Their DDR5 was most likely stupid cheap and with Intel, they likely went high speed DDR5. Those consumers can use that on Nova Lake and future gens on LGA 1954. Even better for Arrow Lake owners that went CUDIMMs that should be able to be pushed even harder with next gen LGA 1954 and Nova Lake.

Those that stuck to old DDR4 are now stuck on DDR4 unless they want to now pay 4-5x what DDR5 was going for when it tanked super cheap.

Additionally if you bought AMD, you're stuck on slow DDR5 6000 most likely. With rumors of next gen AM5 CPUs supporting higher speed DDR5 and CUDIMMs, owners will want to or need to upgrade to newer DDR5 to enjoy maximum performance. Meanwhile Intel owners can reuse their high speed DDR5 they bought during Alder Lake, Raptor Lake or Arrow Lake. This will cause future AM5 builds to be much more expensive for upgraders.

Sometimes it just pays to invest into your platform rather than sitting on the sidelines. Intel platforms were accused of "needing" high speed DDR5 to enjoy maximum benefit. It seems that early purchase of high speed DDR5 in earlier and cheaper days greatly paid off for those owners as they'll enjoy superior longevity of that investment!

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u/BigDaddyTrumpy — 1 day ago
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Blurry text system wide on 9070XT but not 3070.

Computer Type: Desktop

GPU: RX 9070XT & Nvidia 3070 Laptop

CPU: 9850X3D

Motherboard: Asus B850-E WIFI TUF GAMING

BIOS Version: 1402 x64

AGESA Version: ComboAM5PI_0309

RAM: 32GB Corsair Vengence 6000Mhz CL36

PSU: Lian LI 1200W Edge Gold

Monitors:  2 x AOC Q27G40XMN

Case: Lian Li 011D Mini V2

Operating System & Version: WINDOWS 11 25H2

GPU Drivers: 32.0.31021.1015 - Adreneline 26.6.2

Chipset Drivers: AMD B850 Chipset driver v8.03.25.247

Background Applications: Nothing.

Description of Original Problem: Blurry text at 1080p on AMD gpu, but clearer on Nvidia GPU.

Troubleshooting: I have tried everything I can think of cannot find a solution to my problem. Before I get started I understand running 1080p on a 1440p monitor will not look as good as native.

I recently built a 9070xt machine and it’s been awesome, however I cannot seem to find the solution to this, admittedly niche, issue. When running windows at 1080p my old Nvidia laptop is noticeably more clear with static text, this persists across all of windows and any applications, including but not limited to system settings fonts, web browsers, and even the clock on the task bar.

I have reinstalled windows from scratch 4 or 5 times now, I have tried cleartype several times, I have switched monitors, I have tried different cables including DP and HDMI. I have adjusted every setting I can find in both Adrenaline, the Nvidia control panel, and windows.

Because it’s system wide my assumption is that Nvidia is applying some level of processing or scaling to the 1080p desktop and AMD is either not, or is doing a worse job of it. However I have tried disabling scaling in “adjust desktop size and position” in the Nvidia control panel as well as image scaling in “manage 3d settings”. I have also tried enabling and disabling AMDs super resolution, image scaling, color enhancement, fsr upscaling, Radeon boost, AA, tessellation, and sharpening. I have also tried changing the color depth and pixel format and the issue still persists. I have also tried windows scaling, every setting on cleartype, I've even tried to check the font weights.

At this point if I could just make the Nvidia 1080p desktop look the same (I.e. worse) I would at least know for certain it’s just Nvidia applying an overlay or some type of scaling, but I can’t even manage to do that.

I am desperate at this point and have tried several tech support discords and subreddits trying to solve this issue Any and all help is greatly appreciate

The left is the AMD image and right is the nVidia image.

EDIT: I've been dubbed the "fuzzy/blurry text guy" in my discord because this post has gotten a lot of traction (relatively), so for those who arrived at this thread via google by searching for a fix for THEIR fuzzy text problem I'd like to point out that several solutions have been suggested in the comments below. Many of which are very helpful and may solve you're specific fuzzy text issues. Unfortunately for me, despite trying many of the proposed solutions, I have not found the answer I am looking for.

Despite disabling any form of image scaling/upscaling on the nvidia system, it still looks better than the AMD system when set to 1080p on my 1440p monitor. I am convinced that AMD is outputting the correct 1080p image and stretching it to 1440p resulting in blurry/fuzzy text. Which would lead me to believe that even with all the "scaling" options disabled in nvidia's control panel, they are still applying some level of scaling or image processing to the entirety of the display image including the desktop environment and applications when the resolution is set to anything lower than the panel's native resolution.

Please don't let this influence youre decision to buy or not buy an AMD card as the 9070XT has been incredible for me. Nearly 5080 performance at half the cost. This is just a hyper specific issue I am running into that most people will never have to deal with. That being said, I feel my only solutions going forward are either finding a standalone upscaler to replicate whatever nvidia is doing to the 1080p image on the 1440p monitor, or to sell my 9070XT and buy a 5080. I will update this thread if I find a solution. Thanks to everyone who tried to help.

u/AlmostSavvy — 3 days ago

RPCS3 is not a native PC game, it's an emulator. Your CPU is what matters for performance

Almost guaranteed that Intel will kill AMDs here up and down the stack. I can't see cache outperforming far superior cores here.

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u/Distinct-Race-2471 — 1 day ago

Rtx 5080: The worst value GPU of all time?

As we can see here, the 80 series cards have never been worse. A 5080 costs about twice as much as a 9070xt for potentially less performance. Even Arc fangirls can't comprehend the performance value of AMDs latest offerings.

When taken with the data provided in my last post on how good the 5800x3d really is, we can see that a PC built with a 14900k, DDR5 and a 5080 actually performs WORSE than a 5800x3d, DDR4 and a 9070xt, even though it costs roughly twice as much.

This is why the gaming industry is leaving Nvidia and Intel behind. Sony, Microsoft and Valve all are using AMD and FSR next gen. It will be the industry standard.

Intel and Nvidia will be left to people who want to play with models or dolls or something on their computers.

u/EnragedEmu — 2 days ago

5800x3d: The undisputed G.O.A.T

This is why AMD is selling it again. It's still better than anything intel has.

Edit: The mod had trouble linking a video and it got reposted a few too many times, but in it they make a good point:

"If you're looking for an upgrade, I'd highly recommend going with the 5800x3d. Especially if you're just interested in gaming performance ... I honestly think you'd be crazy to do anything else, considering how fast that CPU is" 

u/EnragedEmu — 3 days ago
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I just build my new pc and my games all look like sh

Can someone help me figure out how to adjust my graphics and shit? all my games look grainy and not great and it’s such a bummer because i paid so much for this

Edit: How is someone starting from 0 supposed to know every pc term immediately people, if you asked me what my parts were i could have answered that question immediately. I’m completely new to this and still don’t know most terms or really anything. I built this pc completely by myself from scratch with plenty of progress photos, and to clarify my “weeks to build” comment, that was the timeframe in which i started, waited for parts to come, and finished. I’m not looking for engagement on reddit, i was genuinely looking for someone on here that’d be understanding of my situation and maybe be able to help me fix the problem or even just recommend me a solution!

u/Antique-Ad1615 — 4 days ago
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Worst day of my life😔

Genuinely hurts my soul, after many months of deciding on whether or not to upgrade to a pc ( I have an rog zephyrus ryzen 9 5800hs rtx 3060) it’s a great laptop, but I’ve always wanted a pc, I’m selling the laptop to help cover costs (total around $1200), at first everything was going smooth got the motherboard, placed cpu in, ram, ssd, cooler etc, after 7+ hours I’m about ready to give up, I’ve tried reinstalling different components, numerous times, nothing seems to work, never realized that there were levels to ts. I thought about getting a prebuilt but I wanted something that had meaning to it and I just never found anything that was worth it. I’ve tried guides my brothers helped, hell even chatgpt, nothing helped just dead ends, I’d figure taking it to a repair shop would cost like $100-200 but if that’s the case I’d rather would’ve just bought a prebuilt, most of the stuff I can return, everything Cept the ram, bought it off ebay. Besides that no matter what I did the two led lights stayed red constantly, the fans turn on and spin, the xfx logo LED on the gpu turns on but the fans don’t move, they move slightly when I turn it on or off, the usb ports hdmi ports don’t work, I’ve honestly been defeated, if yall can help diagnose this it would be great, please let me know if you need more info about anything. Apologies if the sentences were all jambled up

Edit 1: The lights indicate CPU and DRAM

Edit 2: Turns out the chip slot had broken pins, buying new mb hopefully that’ll fix it

u/Distinct-Race-2471 — 4 days ago