According to realitytv_fans, yesterday the second series of Celebrity The Traitors UK has wrapped its filming. On the same day, the cast of US Civilian version are flying to Scotland and the filming shall start in a few days.
After a few days, I'm back with this series! Sorry that it's been a while, I had a few technical problems and I lost my two documents I'm using to write these posts, it took a few days to recover them so now we're back!
Once again, I base my rankings on gameplay and watchability and nothing out of show. Just my usual reminder that this is just my opinion and I'd love to discuss this with you in the comments but lets keep it nice!
350: Melinda (CA2): Poor faithful. Had the potential to be really entertaining but sadly just fell down the slippery slope that was the teamwork levels in CA2 (both faithfuls and traitors). I do like Melinda outside of the show but here, she wasn’t great.
349: Jackie (NZ2): Very poor traitor with nothing really going for her in terms of entertainment or gameplay hence why she isn’t higher. Because of the sheer amount of Traitors we had in NZ2, the ones who weren’t memorable really stick out like a sore thumb. Maybe some people think this is too low, but there are other not great traitors that are at least memorable.
348: Hannah (AU2): Well, she wasn’t quite as bad as Sarah or Keith, but oh my gosh was it infuriating to watch her confessionals after Annabel was banished. Out of all people who could have been a a traitor, she somehow landed on Luke? The reason she isn’t lower is because she did at least click onto the fact it was Sam eventually, however, she got murdered immediately afterwards.
347: MK (AU1): Only lasted 2 episodes but didn’t make a great impression in that time. For whatever reason, he treated the game as if it was court and it made everyone feel really awkward, very much a chaos player. But AU1 has several players who are chaotic so MK just fades into the background of only lasting 2 episodes and being a bit frustrating.
346: Robbie (NZ1): Definitely came in with a bit of a disadvantage due to not knowing anyone beforehand but what killed her run was her stint as a traitor. I’m of the opinion that you shouldn’t throw your fellow traitors under the bus when you’re being voted out (cough cough a certain UK1 recruit). Dan could have had an even deeper run if Robbie hadn’t winked at him. Nothing of note as a faithful, and very poor as a traitor.
345: Donna (US4): Poor choice for the ST. I can see what the producers were trying to do but she was just far too suspicious. In a season with in my eyes relatively poor gameplay, aside from one exception, Donna stands out as one of the weakest. I think the ST could be a good idea but in both of its seasons, its full potential hasn’t been used.
344: Livi (UK3): I have a ton of respect for her out of show but on show she wasn’t great. Played far too emotionally and seemed to be weirdly fixated on Freddie. If we were just basing this on the firs thalf of her run, she’d be a bit higher, but she absolutely tanked her own game in the second half by appearing far too faithful.
343: Loryn (NZ1): I’m a bit critical of people who call Loryn the worst Traitor ever. Was she good? No, but Loryn being voted out first I think was largely the result of good faithfuls (namely Brooke and Sam). Played the game far too quietly however, and I don’t see her making it much further.
342: Lauren (CA2): Another person who I have a lot of respect for outside of show but among the worst faithfuls ever. Had tunnel vision on Cedric and had a blind spot towards Neda. She gets superseded entertainment wise by Tranna, so sadly I have to rank her very low.
341: Laurie (CA2): I’m sure you’re beginning to see that there are just some seasons I’m not huge on. Laurie had clocked onto Neda but was far too easily swayed by Tranna and Lauren. Also had tunnel vision on Cedric, not as bad as Lauren but still very much a factor that led to the faithfuls this season being so poor.
340: Colton (US4): Not too bad at the game but absolutely tanks in terms of watchability. He reminds me of US2 Peter but significantly worse. As I’ve said I’m not ranking out of show stuf but....... yikes. A very poor casting choice from the producers, similar to Michael. Came across as way too overconfident and very much hit a ceiling in terms of how far he could go.
339: Aaron (CA2): The last CA2 player who I have super low. Not as bad as the ones I’ve talked about previously but for whatever reason, he just seemed to be put on a pedestal by a lot of the other players. Had tunnel vision on Mike and had nothing of note entertainment wise.
338: Matt (AU1): Complete chaos. He did provide some entertainment and I can’t acuuse him of being boring, but he was incredibly destructive to the game of the faithful due to how suspicious he appeared. Very disruptive and him going completely ballistic just came out of nowhere due to a misunderstanding. Didn’t dislike him, but terrible gameplay wise.
337: Dan (US2): And here we have another traitor who tanked other people’s games as well as his own. I don’t like Pahedra as much as most people do, but Dan throwing away her game automatically puts him low on this list. Appeared suspicious from the beginning and among the worst traitors we’ve ever seen. Made no alliances and just played a very poor game.
336: Candiace (US4): I don’t dislike her to the extent that some people do but she handled Rob turning on Lisa terribly to the point that he really had no choice but to vote her out as well. Just came across as a bit of a sore loser and it’s a shame because she actually didn’t have a terrible social game (the reunion didn’t do her any favours either).
335: Tyler (UK3): Poor faithful. Another member of the infamous clique and had tunnel vision on Kas and then Freddie. Seems like a nice guy but in the game he wasn’t great. Gets a few bonus points purely for the fact that he himself was banished for a really strange reason. To be honest, I didn’t understand the logic of the UK3 faithful at times.
334: Armani (UK3): I’ll at least give her credit for some entertainment. She just couldn’t see that she was playing such a terrible game and it was quite fun to watch. However, she is my personal pick for worst traitor ever in terms of gameplay (at least the ones chosen from the start).
333: Liam (AU2): Definitely the least bad of the dummies. At least he eventually came up with a decent case against Sam, even if it was too little too late. Victim of the one person he placed his trust in being a traitor. A shame that he had such a blindspot towards Sam for most of the season because I didn’t dislike him otherwise.
332: Sam (AU2): Oh boy. Some people will think this is either too high or too low. I will give him credit for uniqueness, there is no one else quite like him who came before him or after him. However, I just don’t enjoy it when the villain of the season is the main character. He just completely took over the show and it wasn’t fun to watch (at least in my opinion). Thank goodness Camille saved us from a completely unsatisfying outcome. I do have to respect him gameplay wise somewhat, he had a good grasp on the faithful gameplay dynamics even if he wouldn’t have made it to the end in any other season.
331: Porsha (US4): Absolutely the worst early exit. Did just about everything wrong that could make you a target to be banished first. Far too outspoken and stumbled over her words so much that I would have even banished her first myself if I was in the shoes of the players. At least somewhat entertaining and does fit into the so bad it’s good category.
Would love to continue discussion with you all in the comments but as I've said before, let's keep it nice!
I'm just finishing E7 of Canada season 2, and I don't think I've hated anyone quite as much as Kyra. The only person who beats her is Sam from Australia, and that's a very high bar to clear.
The scenes where she's fully bullying Michael John were really difficult to watch. I felt so horrible when he kept apologizing and she just had her little smirk on. There was no real reason to go after him; I think she just didn't like him. Anyway, hope she loses.
The big three are disqualification, injury/illness & quitting. Some of the examples are hypothetical, while others may have happened.
Please do not personally attack the players
There has already been plenty of debate about the "Parting gift" , so no need to get too sidetracked
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheTraitors/comments/zsy30y/kieran_honestly_ruined_the_game/?sort=new
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheTraitors/comments/ztb4bu/to_those_saying_that_kieran_cheated/
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheTraitors/comments/1o2zetm/uk_season_1_was_a_travesty/?sort=new
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• First player murdered
• First player banished
• Fake eliminated before Traitor selection but don't re-enter
• Banished because you done something suspicious off camera
• As a Faithful, you outlast all the Traitors but are banished at F3.
• As a Faithful, you receive votes at loads of roundtables but are banished in a non reveal round.
• You + the others vote to End Game at F4 with a Traitor still in the game.
• As a Traitor, the departing Traitor heavily hints that you are a Traitor after the votes have been cast.
• Other, please specify.
Although voting to End Game at F4 is probably the worst way to lose from a game theory point of view, I think that the worst way to lose would be because you done something suspicious off camera. The reason I think this, is because you would probably have to lie to the viewers until your non disclosure agreement expires.
De Verraders Videoland S1 (not Halloween S1) is easily one of the best seasons I've seen and it's such a shame I don't see more people talking about it.
Strategy, gameplay, drama, fantastic casting, it has it all (also a couple of very funny missions mixed in)! And it's only 6 episodes long with all episodes being under an hour. You can easily binge it in a day if you have the time.
I won't spoil anything, but the winner/s are among the best I've seen from any version. I really recommend it if you haven't seen it already!
I know the everyone likes they the UK version casts everyday people in the civilian version, and I'm not suggesting that they put a huge name celebrity that everyone would instantly know, like a Helen Mirren or Stephen Fry in a cast of everyday people, but if producers decide to cast a famous person in the season because they would be interesting to the story and legitimately want to play, would you be okay with that? Or is that too much?
I was thinking about Survivor having had Lisa Whelchel (TV star in the 80s), Mike White (director/producer/writer), and several retired athletes on the show. They often hide their identity as a famous person in order to not get targeted and it's not revealed by production, unless they or another contestant brings it up. In the case of Lisa Whelchel on Survivor Philippines, the younger contestants were too young to even know who she was, and >!it wasn't revealed to the group until it was final jury at the end of the game.!<
If that was the case, would you be okay with it?
Is Mark the only player to ever turn down a blackmail/Ultimatum?
Ive watched all of Aus, UK, US and NZ and dont remember before this.
I am so glad that Traitors Canada is on Peacock in the US. I'm on episode 7 of the 1st season and really enjoying it. Who else is watching in the US? I was really starting to go through Traitors withdrawals.
I just finished episode 7, and I can't believe these Faithfuls are so dense, especially the ones who work in the investigative fields. Are they really that daft, or is Sam really that manipulative?
I hope Sam wins it all, he deserves it.
Just kind of a question, idk if it only plays in the US version since that’s all I’m caught up on currently, but I was wondering what the song was called. I’ve tried punching in the lyrics into spotify and nothing popped up
I've watched all the seasons of UK. Season 1,2 and 4 of US. watched the only season of Ireland. i started with Australia S1, but idk why I'm bored lol (if y'all are a fan of this season, please don't come at me)
lemme know what other versions/seasons are fun to watch.
Ok so Kate in US 1 received votes 4 roundtables in a row and 7 non consecutively
Is there anyone who received votes 5 eps in a row internationally
Intrigued who the person is with votes against them most in a row
Edit David in UK celeb had 7 in a row will be tough to beat
Who else would make a perfect potential detective?
Not talking about whether Cirie deserved to win, she played an amazing game. My question is specifically about Arie’s decision at the end.
Since he had already admitted he was a Traitor, could he not have refused to bow out and forced another vote while targeting Cirie? Not by directly exposing her outside the rules, but just through gameplay (Something like forcing a vote, telling everyone Yes I am a traitor and still voting for Cirie still emphasising he is the traitor or something...idk)
And emotionally, wouldn’t he have every reason to do it? He was recruited super late, then immediately treated as expendable. So from his perspective it could’ve been like: “You don’t think I’m a real Traitor anyway? Fine, then I’ll help the Faithfuls.”
Instead he left in this weirdly restrained/sad way while basically hinting something was wrong without fully going nuclear.
Was that:
Against the rules somehow?
A personal/moral choice by Arie?
Respect for Cirie’s gameplay?
I don't know I just finished watching the episode and that part felt so weird
Also a side thought - Christian telling everyone he was invited to be a traitor when everyone already assumed no murder that night was due to Arie's shield was so "not smart", that would have given Arie the ultimate "I can't be the traitor, they tried to kill me and I survived because of shield, how can I be traitor" and then Christian just took that away from Arie and also put a target on his back which ultimately let to his elimination
My wife and I love the Traitors series…..UK, US, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland….all of them. And in all of the series, they all are hosted in these amazing, beautiful castles. But Traitors Canada is an obvious cheaply put together set. Handles on the doors don’t work. The doors are poorly made cheap doors & when the doors shut too hard, the walls on the set shake. This is the Carnival Cruise line of the Traitors series.
In the third Polish edition of "The Traitors. Zdrajcy" one contestant (Iza, the faithful one) criticized another contestant (Natalia, the traitor) for her weight. But let's start from the beginning.
Iza came to the show with her twin sister, Daria. By the end of the second episode, Daria was one of the few people who didn't win the shield. Natalia, along with other traitors (Igor and Łucja), decided to throw her out, breaking up the loyal family alliance.
Some time later, at the roundtable, Iza brought up the topic of Natalia. She claimed that Natalia had eliminated her sister and told Natalia to "make peace with her personal trainer." Natalia started crying.
A day later, Iza privately "apologized" to Natalia. However, it quickly became clear that the apology was a false form of manipulation intended to force Natalia to admit to being a traitor.
Can a player announce that they have a shield if they got banished? Ciara got the shield from the dolls mission and then got banished that night. Could she have gone by the way everyone, I won the shield?
I’m organising a homemade Traitors game with a bunch of friends. We’ve booked a spacious house on Airbnb for a day, so we’re going to have around 4-5 hours of gameplay with all the other stuff planned (preparation, other board games, breaks etc.).
In total, there’ll be 11 or 12 players competing. How many traitors do you think I should select at the beginning of the game - 2 or 3? Selecting 2 might be a bit low as I’m worried the Faithful will be disappointed if they keep missing them at the Round Table. At the same time, 3 might be too many as basically they’re only going to have 3-4 Round Table elimination rounds and 3-4 murders before entering the finale with 5 players left (assuming no murders are failed due to attempting to kill a shielded Faithful). If no traitors are found at the first three Round Tables, then the Traitors are in the majority…
What do you think? Especially those who have hosted / participated in homemade games.
Edit: Of course I’m planning to include recruitment rules into the game as well.