Ranking Every English Speaking Traitors Player: 80-61

And we're back again with another part of this crazy project! I want to apologise quickly and say I'm sorry this took a while to come out. I haven't been too well recently so I took some time to recover.

Just my normal warning to be nice, don't make personal attacks and keep it show focused only. I do reference some out of show stuff here but it's mostlty just for context. Let's go!

80: Derrick (US3): So I quite liked Derrick. I’m generally a bit critical of US3 and its late additions but Derrick was by far the best of the three. He did clock on to the fact that Boston Rob was a Traitor while being significantly less infuriating compared to Wes but ultimately he was viewed as being a big threat and BR needed to take a bit of a risk in order to have any chance of surviving so he was murdered. Derrick gets bonus points for being the only member of the cage trio that didn’t let being a late addition go to his head! 

79: Jason (NZ2): Jase was good! He was good fun and I loved the Pacific Ring of Fire alliance generally, it’s among thje most effective social alliances in traitors history and Jase was one of the key members. He had it fully figured out by the last episode but sadly it was too little too late and he was banished just before the big reveal. Gameplay wise, he probably shouldn’t be up this high but I really liked him and NZ2 has one of the most interesting group dynamics in traitors history so everyone naturally gets a bit of a boost. 

78: Tom (US3): I must preface this by saying I have no idea who Tom is outside of the show. He’s apparently controversial but unlike Rappaport (who I know is genuinely awful) I have no idea what Tom has done because I don’t generally watch US reality TV and I’m not American, my list is based on the show only! Anyway, I found Tom very entertaining and  because his gameplay was so unpredictable, he managed to get away with not being murdered for a long time. The dolls mission was a highlight!

77: Kristen (US4): In a season as drama filled as US4, I think people like Kristen add a lot to the season. Pretty good at the game and just managed to stay pretty steady. From the statistics side, she was very good as she voted for 3 out of the 4 original traitors and also became suspicious of Eric who was recruited as a traitor. She also made some good alliances with the likes of Mark and Eric and overall, I would easily take someone a bit more low-key compared to the ahem much more challenging personalities we got in US4. 

76: Brittany (NZ2): One of the best players objectively from NZ2 and it’s a shame she didn’t make it a bit further. She heavily campaigned for 2 traitors with those being Jackie and Whitney and stands out for being one of the only players from NZ2 who openly wanted to play the game as a faithful. However, there is such a thing in this show as going too hard to early, and Brit was definitely a victim of that. Perhaps not to the extent of say Brodie from NZ1 but definitely seen as a threat so was murdered very quickly. A fairly short run but a good one! 

75: Leroy (CA1): On a statistical level, John Cena is one of CA1’s best players. He voted for all four traitors and the endgame pretty much came down to him vs Mike. One thing I don’t think is talked about enough is people who can get through the game pretty easily because they’re good at missions and John Cena is definitely an example of that. So surely he should rank higher? Well, I just don’t find him that interesting until the last few episodes. It isn’t until it becomes clear that the endgame is going to be between him and Mike with Gurleen more allied with Leroy but possibly changeable that I think he becomes more interesting. Him and Gurleen were pretty much ride or die up to that point but somehow Mike actually managed to swing her vote. I don’t think Leroy could have done anymore, Mike just played well. 

74: Ivar (US3): A very underrated winner. We often talk about how to play an ideal wallflower faithful game, and to find it? Look no further than Ivar. Ivar played an incredibly quiet game largely focused on being in the background and building up a few very stable alliances. He voted for all 5 traitors and statistically is one of the best winners of all time. However, because of his gameplay style, he’s about as interesting as watching paint dry until the last episode where I actually quite enjoyed watching him in the helicopter mission. I’m also not counting out of show stuff but being involved with Cambridge Analytica isn’t a great look. 

73: Eric (US4): A really fun player who added a lot to the season. A voting record of 4 before being recruited makes him have one of the highest hit rates in the US version and he had a fairly solid run as a traitor too. You will learn as we go up this list that there’s a certain winning traitor that I’m not necessarily a huge fan of so it’s a shame Eric couldn’t share the prize money. Hell, I thought Eric did really well to survive until the F3 considerig he had heat on him for almost the entire time he was a traitor, he did more than enough to share the win and I would love to have seen him take it. But hey, that’s the game! 

72: James (UK4): Pure chaos and I absolutely loved it. I often talk about how I’m not huge on super drama heavy players but James brought chaos without detracting from the atmosphere which was good. James really wasn’t great at the game at all, he largely survived as long as he did because he always had some level of suspicion on him and ultimately confused everyone a lot. However, he was grwat fun and has some all time iconic moments such as his legendary ‘Tigger needs to run’ comment.  

71: Frankie (UK3): Similar in vein to Leroy, Frankie is one of those players who doesn’t really become too relevant in terms of gameplay until the final few episodes, but she does have a lot of stuff going for her even before that. She acted as a genuine support for Freddie when it just seemed that he was getting heat from every angle and she from the chess mission onward where she got very underestimated, she started to get a lot more screen time. It’s a shame she didn’t work with Alexander a bit more to clear him in the eyes of Jake and Leanne because I think a four faithful win was actually on the cards here (especially if they'd revealed roles). Ughhh, I hated the seer so much, it ruined what could have been one of the best endings in traitors history.  

70: Sandra (US2): I liked Sandra a lot considering I had no idea who she was before watching. I think using Parvati as a traitor angel was a really good strategy and it almost got her to the end. She voted for all four traitors and overall was just pretty good at the game. I haven’t really watched Survivor but Sandra features in the only non UK season available to watch in the UK so maybe I’ll have to give it a shot. However, I do prefer Parvati (we’ll get to her at some point). 

69: Nick (UKC): It’s a shame Nick is now mostly known for switching on Joe and effectively losing the season for the faithfuls, because apart from that he actually played a very good game. He made a really good alliance with Joe M and it’s a shame he turned on him as they would have made arguably the strongest winning faithfuls ever (David would have dragged down the average though.) Watchability wise, he just came across as a really nice guy and overall, he was just a joy to have on the season, even if he bungled the endgame to a titanic proportion. 

68: Cat (NZ2): I liked Cat for the most part and she added a lot to NZ2. She has one of the strongest voting records we’ve seen from NZ and once she clocked onto the fact that Noel wasn’t a traitor, she was fantastic. I do agree with most that getting a bit personal with Mark was her low point but as much as I love Mark (as you will come to see) I can understand how he would frustrate people. Aside from that, she made a lot of really strong alliances and was near perfect in the second half of her run.  

67: Kevin (CA1): Wow, we’re already on our last CA1 faithful. Kevin was quite easily the strongest faithful of the season. He pretty much led the charge in getting Mel B banished and also had suspicions on both Mike and Kuzie due to being part of his alliance (as well as Leroy). Kevin’s downfall was the fact that he just got a bit too passionate. It definitely seemed to rub people the wrong way a little bit and throwing out everyone in his alliance in one go wasn’t a great look. However, he played a very good game overall and it’s a shame he didn’t go further. 

66: Anna (NZ1): Definitely the weaker of the two NZ1 winners but Anna was still pretty good. She was very popular amongst the group and created a lot of good alliances. She also has a voting record of 5 which is phenomenally good for a winning faithful and was very likeable on top of that. She was incredibly perceptive and the first person to notice that Robbie winked at Dan when she was getting banished. In addition, she was not easily swayed in the slightest and always stuck to her guns. Good player but the weaker of the two NZ1 winners. 

65: Cagla (CA3): Cagla had a pretty rough ride! They were constantly having to fend off Lisette and in addition to this they were recruited fairly late into the game. They remind me a lot of UK2 Andrew where they weren’t necessarily a standout faithful or traitor but they were pretty good at both. I’m glad they weren’t a traitor from the beginning because I think secret relationships are better when they’re both faithful. I liked Cagla overall (and as for post show, if you know, you know). 

64: Colin (NZ1): A really fun player to have around. Very entertaining and constantly able to sniff through BS. He voted for 3 traitors in 7 episodes which was pretty good. I’m so glad Brooke recruited him just for the fun of it as it really helped to spice up the last part of the season. He also came up with the Darth Vanda nickname so that was fun! Also gets bonus points for his taste in fashion, wow he looked incredible every single episode! 

63: Luke (AU2): Maybe this is controversially low but outside of allying with Annabel and being onto both remaining traitors, he doesn’t do a ton for me. The fact he was onto all 3 traitors does give him a lot of points but if I’m being honest, he doesn’t do a ton for me in terms of watchability and I find he tends to get overshadowed by Annabel. I did like Luke and he was a good player but I think he can get a little overrated.  

62: Ron (US4): Had a really unreasonably hard time. It’s a shame after suspecting Porsha for slipping up (which she did) he never really was trusted again. Still he voted for both Donna and Lisa. If the BTS stuff with the likes of Dorinda is true, then wow he had it rough and I’m shocked he still stayed so positive. I’m honestly shocked he lasted to the halfway point, he had a lot of votes at every round table post Donna’s banishment. It’s a real shame, lovely guy who made a very understandable mistake and then paid an unreasonable price for it.  

61: Cat (UKC):  A good traitor who played a much more quiet game compared to Jonathan and Alan. If she was on another season I think she may have been found out sooner for perhaps being too quiet but that’s besides the point. Cat had some very amusing moments especially with Alan. The highlight is easily when she was trying to tell him in a nice way to shut up when discussing the murder in plain sight. Apart from that, she was just a very solid traitor all around and stayed undercover for a good majority of the game! 

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u/RowGonsoleConsole — 6 hours ago

Tier List of Antagonists Based on How Bad I Think They Were

Have decided to spoiler tag this just to not ruin the surprise of which characters are villains.

u/RowGonsoleConsole — 1 day ago

Have Just Watched the 3rd Movie

What an absolutely perfect ending, for absolutely everyone. I know some people are a bit critical of the movies and I personally disagree with that opinion but I'm getting off course, this movie was incredible!

Firstly, it was refreshing to see Mary and Edith actually getting on. I've always tended to side heavily with Edith over the course of the show (and movies) but now, I appreciate neither were perfect and had great character growth which absolutely bloomed in this!

Speaking of Edith, she was easily the standout character here in my eyes, she pretty much saved Mary's future in running the estate! Bertie provided an excellent supporting role in this and in terms of the movies, this was easily his standout appearance.

I'm glad to see the older staff members moving on with Carson having to come to terms with that and Daisy taking over from Mrs Patmore! I'm glad Anna and Bates got a good ending and didn't end up in prison again! Lovely moment between Mary and Anna at the end as well.

Robert and Cora were great as always as were Isobel and Dickie.

A slight gripe I had was a lack of Tom. Considering he's such a well liked and important character I think they could have utilised him a lot more. Sure, what he does get is great but I think they could have got more out of him.

The plot was incredibly basic but that was fine for me. All it needed to do was be a fitting conclusion and tie up loose ends, and that it did very well.

The ending was beautiful, seeing all those we've lost along the way made me cry! Especially when they showed Sybil. I was in floods of tears.

So yeah, that's my very basic review of the 3rd movie, definitely my favourite of the three and a very fitting end!

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u/RowGonsoleConsole — 9 days ago

Ranking Every English Speaking Traitors Player: 100-81

So here we are with the next part of this crazy project! I was going to go down to 76 today but I just had so much to say about everyone in my Top 100 that I sadly didn't get the time. Again, just a reminder that this is an edited TV show and lets keep being nice towards the players and each other.

100: Hannah (UK1): UK1’s winners don’t exactly have the greatest reputation but in terms of gameplay, Hannah was definitely the strongest. She had a pretty goof voting record, was willing to go up against players like Tom and arguably has the absolute best reaction to the red brekkie. I can’t put her higher due to her enormous blind spot for Wilf right up until the parting gift but overall Hannah was pretty good and it’s a shame she doesn’t get flowers for her gameplay just because she trusted Wilf.  

99: Gloria (AU2): And here we have one out of 5 players from AU2 who I’d consider passable. Gloria actually wasn’t too bad despite the reputation the AU2 faithfuls have generally. She had some pretty funny confessionals and the only reason she didn’t vote for Sam when Annabel was banished is because she was voting for Blake instead. She actually has a 50% voting record which is really good and voted for all 3 original traitors. I liked Gloria overall and it’s a shame she can get dragged down with the rest of the AU2 faithfuls. 

98: Jake (UK3): Way overhated by some people. After Kas went, I didn’t really see much of a problem with Jake. He had a very strong voting record, he was good at missions and definitely was the stronger of the two winners. I appreciated him being so open about his cerebral palsy and overall I thought came across as a really solid guy. Additionally, I never saw his comment towards Kas as malicious and anyway it’s an edited TV show so I wouldn’t like to say anything of the ilk. Good player and a deserved winner! 

97: Jasmine (UK2): If you haven’t seen my posts before, then here’s a piece of info for you. I love UK2! Therefore. I might rank a few players a bit higher than they should be and Jasmine is one of those. Her friendship/rivalry/whatever you call it with Zack is one of the defining points of UK2 and the pair of them absolutely makes the season as good as it is. She also voted for 3 traitors and had pretty strong arguments at the round table. I liked Jasmine! She added a lot to UK2’s watchability. 

96: Diane (UK2): Some people might think this is far too low. Diane is undoubtedly an iconic contestant. She really does go through every adjective you could use to describe a player in the traitors. She’s brilliant, she’s terrible, she’s hilarious, she’s bamboozling, and everything in between. Diane adds a lot to the atmosphere of the season’s first half. She consistently goes at Anthony with supposedly better reasoning than we saw on screen but we sadly didn’t see it. The reason I don’t have Diane higher is because I just found her a little bit too off the wall at times. Of course, the edit can be very deceptive but it did seem like she was winding Anthony up a bit too much at times combine this with immediately jumping in when Anthony accidentally said ‘finished’ to Jasmine in a bit of an abrasive way (obviously unintentionally) and you have a player who I mostly see the appeal for, but not quite all of it.  

95: Kelley (IR1): Ireland definitely is seen as having some of the strongest winners and while I may or may not agree with that, I think most of us agree that Kelley is the weakest. Don’t get me wrong, I did like Kelley and she got herself into a very strong position in the last 2 episodes by mostly staying neutral on a lot of the drama of the last 3 episodes but I can’t put her any higher than this. I did like her alliance with Amy and she did pick the right pairing to end the game with but she just isn’t as interesting watchability wise for me. 

94: Miles (UK2): Was doing very well until the murder in plain sight. Sure, he was definitely quieter than Paul and Harry but I think this works in his favour, having a quieter personality in the conclave definitely helps to balance the watchability side of things. I will also say that I definitely felt a bit for him after the Episode 6 mission, I fully saw what he was trying to do with guiding them and it’s a shame that the other players couldn’t see it. I liked Miles a lot, and I’m so glad he’s been invited back to uncloaked multiple times since! 

93: Zack (UK2): A pretty good faithful who was arguably a bit too chaotic to ever get to the end. I loved his friendship/feud with Jasmine but what lifts Zack a bit higher was his stronger gameplay. He initially came under a lot of suspicion but got himself into the position where he was eventually murdered. Along with voting for 4/6 traitors and you have a pretty strong player! I liked Zack a lot, I think he could have been a very strong endgame player had he made it there.  

92: Britney (US3): And here’s another player people might think is too low. I did like Britney a lot but definitely not to the same extent as some people. I did feel bad for her after Danielle’s banishment but I just don’t see the appeal, I didn’t think she was one of the strongest in terms of gameplay and is largely memorable because of a few funny confessionals and being recruited near to the end of the season. I did like Britney but maybe not to the extent of some people. I will admit her commentary about Tom during the dolls challenge was absolutely hilarious! 

91: Dan (UK3): Absolutely fascinating player to watch. Not necessarily particularly good at the game but he did stand up for Kas! A real insight into the misunderstanding of neurodiverse people in a game like this. Being autistic myself it was really refreshing to see someone being so open and honest about it on TV in a stressful setting. I think in an ideal world everyone in the game would have the mindset Dan had and just look at it without any emotion attached. Everyone is different hoever and while I did feel a bit uncomfortable with his banishment, I can see why he would appear as suspicious. I liked Dan, he was cool! 

90: Lewis (AU1): Not necessarily one of the strongest finalists we’ve ever seem but a great character to have around!  He was one of the very first people onto Claire which gives him some good value in terms of gameplay and his banishment definitely marked the point of no return when it came to a possible faithful win. Oh and did you know that he’s a ‘sparky?’ I bet you’d never guess, he never mentions it or anything.  

89: Ben (NZ2): A really good faithful with a very strong voting record! It’s a shame he got recruited and then pretty much got banished immediately because I actually think Bailey, Siale, and Ben could have made a really good team. He used the traitor angel strategy very effectively by staying close to Jane meaning he wouldn’t have been a good murder option. Seemed a really nice guy and as I said, I think I would have preferred Bailey, Siale, and Ben as the starting traitors (maybe with Jane as a 4^(th)).  

88: Simone (AU2): Has to be up this high purely because she coined the term we now user to describe a certain group of faithfuls, ‘the dummies!’ But seriously, Simone was a fairly decent player. She took up the case of going after Sam once Annabel and Luke were gone and once Simone was banished, a faithful win seemed pretty much like a dead loss. As an additional point, apparently the edit did her a bit dirty and she was a better player than we were led to believe and suspected Sam from very early on. Still, I liked Simone, she gets pretty underrated on here. 

87: Gurleen (CA1): Gurleen is proof that you can be a good player but still be taken to the end. She was a big part in banishing both Kuzie and Mickey (although she was wrong about Mickey’s status as a traitor because he was recruited. She formed good alliances with Kevin and Leroy and I have absolutely no idea how Mike managed to flip her vote at the end. Hell, I don’t even think Mike knew how Mike managed to flip her vote at the end. Gurleen was a good player, she had some good reads and formed good alliances! It’s just a shame that she doubted herself at the end.  

86: Tara (US4): My preferred member of the figure skating duo. Johnny was probably a bit better at the game but I found Tara much more entertaining. Sure, most of the last part of her game boiled down to trying to switch Maura’s thinking but she played a pretty good game! She has a very strong voting record of 5 and definitely played a good strategic game in terms of when to go all out for Rob. I’d love to have seen her win with Johnny but it was just never going to happen all the time Maura was there. 

85: Ben (IR1): Unfairly dragged down with Nick in my opinion. Just because they were allied with someone doesn’t mean we should view them as the same. I actually quite liked Ben . With a near 50% record on voting accuracy as a faithful and some good alliances made, Ben was a strong player!  Plus, I really appreciate how he made the effort to apologise to people when it appeared him and Nick were playing a bit selfishly.  It’s a shame he got a bit blinded by confidence when he got recruited, he was never winning but he did manage to outlast Nick which was cool. I also have to praise him for giving the best performance in the Episode 11 Round Table..... he sat there with his head in his hands. I agree Ben! Unfairly dragged down by Nick in my eyes.  

84: Dan (NZ1): I felt a bit bad for Dan, he was playing a fantastic game up until Robbie winked at him when she was getting banished. He was then banished at the next round table and it left Brooke having to blackmail Colin. Definitely more of a quiet player compared to his fellow NZ1 traitors (except Loryn) but that definitely worked in his favour. Him and Brooke worked really well as a tram andit’s as hame that Robbie ruined what was an incredibly good traitor duo. Dan was great, I really liked him! 

83: Fozia (UK3): An absolute icon in so many ways . I really appreciate how she stood up for Kas when everyone else was going against him. But obviously, her most iconic moment comes from her murder when she infamously tells Linda that ‘you’re not gonna last’. Maybe some people think that Fozia is a bit too high but I really liked her in terms of entertainment, she just knew it was Linda and it was so funny to watch the big reveal. Great fun, it’s a shame we didn’t get a little bit more time with her because what we did get was great! 

82: Kas (UK3): Lovely bloke who had a really hard time in the game. Paying tribute to someone doesn’t make you suspicious in my eyes, and I heavily retain that opinion (unless you completely overact like Hugo did). It was great to see Fozia standing up for him and I don’t think you should be viewed as suspicious based on your job. Did he vote for any traitors? No. But did I really like him and thought he had an incredibly hard time? Yes. I thought Kas was great 

81: Alex (UK1): Wow, we’ve had a lot of UK today! Definitely my preferred member of UK1’s secret pair. Alex was playing a pretty excellent game up until she refused recruitment. She’d been a major part in banishing Alyssa, had managed to get almost all suspicion off of her after the red brekkie and Tom being banished and even was beginning to get herself into the strongest position out of any faithful. It’s a shame she refused recruitment, she could have been an excellent traitor but we sadly never got to see it. Furthermore, and this is just a side note but I’m not a fan of how some people say she ‘led Matt on’ I personally find this to be really sexist and unfair and some people forget that this is an edited show. I don’t see this opinion much nowadays but I thought I’d mention how unfair I think this is towards Alex. Anyway, rant over, I really liked Alex, she was awesome!

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u/RowGonsoleConsole — 9 days ago

NZ3 Thoughts Going Into The Endgame!

This hasn't been one of my favourite seasons but some of that might just be because I loved NZ2 so much! I've still enjoyed it though!

I think Keanu will be lucky to win now. He's got multiple people onto him and it's only so long before the vote flips towards him. Sad to see that Dave has gone, he was great fun and really entertaining!

Sam I thought had winner potential and was in a very good position but I think at this point, Keanu has to take risks with every move he makes in order to get to the end. I think Chloe is a likely recruit, she's close with Keanu and already has some heat on her.

Violette is in a better position than a lot of people think, she's quite confident in her opinions but about the wrong people so she's useful for the traitors to keep around.

I think Maria might have played her cards too early, would love to be wrong and she was basically playing it how I would play it but I think she's gone for Keanu to soon and would have been better doing it next episode.

I'm definitely feeling a faithful win for this season, but which faithfuls I don't know?

I'm likely going to be leaving the sub for a bit once this season is done and my ranking project is finished so I was hoping for an all time banger and while I've enjoyed this season it hasn't been one of my favourites.

Still excited for the endgame though!

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u/RowGonsoleConsole — 12 days ago

A small gripe with the Zoopedia

The Sunda Islands Tiger (Sumatran Tiger) is actually Critically Endangered instead of Endangered.

u/RowGonsoleConsole — 13 days ago

The More I Watch US3, The Less I Like It

I decided to give US3 a rewatch because I haven't watched it in a while (this my 4th watch of it). Initially, it was one of my absolute favourites and I thought it was great to see four faithfuls win it together.

But wow, has it gone down in my rankings. Dolores is one of the weakest winners in terms of gameplay and analysing the gameplay more closely, I find Gabby and Dylan a bit overrated. Ivar is easily the strongest winner but he was just a bit dull.

I found that the whole season just had a bit of a nasty misogynistic vibe. Right from the very first mission onwards. Having the three late additions being three guys didn't help either.

This alomg with Ireland is easily my least favourite group of Traitors. Carolyn was good until the chess mission and Danielle was alright but was only ever going to go so far. Boston Rob and Bob TDQ sadly were both a bit of a let down.

Thought I'd just make a quick post about this because I thought it was interesting. Normally seasons grow on me, but this is an exception. As I always say I have no idea who these people are outside of the show so I take the show alone into account!

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u/RowGonsoleConsole — 13 days ago

Absolutely Sickened By The Love Bites Episode

I'm in the UK and just watching S8 for the first time (I didn't know it had come out on Channel 4) and I am absolutely disgusted by this episode and the BTS of it after doing some research. I would recommend avoiding this episode if you're sensitive.

As someone who struggles with mental health themselves I had a hard time getting through this and actually had to stop to take a break and then continue it the next day. I cannot put in to words how awful I feel for poor Tess. Ehlers Danlos is an absolutely awful condition to have and it can be absolutely life destroying if severe or not managed carefully. She should not be having to go through all of that.

Chris is on Alan Saffron levels of bad and possibly worse. But at least the burger kitchen episodes have David to keep it interesting. This is just pure depressive misery. Don't get me started on how his mum and Tess's mum protected him so much (and continued to do so post show).

After looking at BTS stuff, it's absolutely embarrassing and shameful how production didn't even attempt to give Tess any help whatsoever and shows that their main priority is just to make 'TV drama'. From what I've picked up from stuff Tess has said, the stuff going on between the two of them was real and production made no effort to offer any real help, it's shocking. I don't blame Gordon, ultimately he's just doing what production wants him to so fault doesn't really lie with him.

However, something that cheered me up a bit was seeing how amazing Tess is doing nowadays! She seems to be absolutely living her best life on her Instagram (and according to her left Chris a while ago!) She deserves the absolute best and I can only wish her luck.

Anyway, the fact that production even let this episode through should tell you where their priorities lie and I can only hope Tess continues to thrive!

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u/RowGonsoleConsole — 18 days ago

Ranking Every English Speaking Traitors Player: 125-101

And we have finally reached our last set of players before we reach the Top 100! Again just the usual reminder to keep things nice and not make personal attacks against players, lets go!

125: Mike (CA2): Unconscious bias is very often called out among traitors fans and rightly so, especially in the UK and US versions. However, while we rightly call out bias based on race, sexuality, neurodiversity etc, I believe there is another form of bias that we don’t talk about enough and that is bias against quieter and more introverted people. We’ve seen this a few times across franchises (UK1, UK3, AU1) and it just really annoys me whenever it comes about. However, I don’t think there is a more excruciating example of this than Mike from Canada 2. He was onto Michael John from word go and still caught a ton of heat from the more loud and wrong faithfuls from this season. I liked Mike overall, he was quiet but right about a lot of things (particularly in regard to Michael John). Fair play that he got himself back into a decent position in the game after initial suspicion as well, considering the gameplay standard of this cast, that’s a tall order.  

124: Fiona (UK4): Fiona is very interesting and I cannot accuse her of being boring at all. She provided a lot of entertainment with her very funny confessionals and the dynamic she added once she was unmasked as the secret traitor. However, the elephant in the room has to be what happened after Amanda’s banishment. I genuinely don’t know what she was thinking going after Rachel like that, Rachel was completely dominant socially and I have no idea how she thought it was going to end up. Fiona is up this high because she’s one of the reasons UK4 is an all time great, not because I particularly liked her as a player. 

123: Christian (US1): Overhated in my opinion. Yes he was a bit of liability but he was great entertainment in an arguably quite uninteresting season. Gameplay wise, he was doing ok up until Arie was recruited. After this he became a complete hot mess and Cirie and Arie decided that it was time to get rid of him. I liked Christian, even if he kind of did himself in!  

122: Michael (US1):  I’m a sucker for an underdog, but I don’t think Michael was one of the stronger ones. I did like him during his short run (especially after Geraldine went) but overall, I think I’d have liked him more if he was around for a bit longer. Sure, he went in way too hard on Geraldine but I didn’t really like the way he got treated after that. I wish he was around for more than four episodes! 

121: Shaughnessy (CA3): Canada 3 has one of the strongest casts in traitors history and Shaughnessy is definitely one of them. Similar to CA2 Mike, I wasn’t fond of how she got targeted for being quiet but she bounced back and had a pretty decent run. She voted for two traitors (Kevin and Ria) and was even getting onto Venus at one point! Pretty good faithful who I’d have kept over some of the ones who stayed later. 

120: Ross (UK4): Poor guy, he just got the absolute worst hand in traitors history. From the minute he steppes out of the car he was suspicious. I get Netty was excited to see him, but how did she think it was going to go?! Combine that being a clear victim of unconscious bias as well as being in a secret relationship plus not exactly being great at defending himself and you have perhaps the unluckiest player in traitors history. I actually really liked Ross, he wasn’t around long enough to justify a higher placement but for his short stay, he was really cool! 

119: Kings (NZ1): I’m a bit mixed on Kings. On the one hand, I do think he was good entertainment and his strategy did make sense. However, the way he handled discussing his strategy socially as well as putting all his trust in a traitor knocks him down this list significantly. Sure, looking for people’s reactions to traitor accusations is a clever idea and did allow him to clock Colin but he just went about it in such a strange way that he could only last so long. He would 100% have been in my Top 100 if he had just approached it differently. 

118: Jade (UK4): Now here we have an underdog! I think Jade takes the second place position in most unfairly tough run in traitors history. People suspected her right from the start and once Amanda got onto her, she was basically just fighting for survival for the rest of the time that she was there. I would consider Jade to be one of two players who didn’t really even get a shot to play properly as they were just fighting for survival the whole time but the reason she isn’t higher is because the other person just supersedes her in every way at least in my opinion. I liked Jade and she did well to survive as long as she did! 

117: Jonathan (UKC): If we were to take into account out of show stuff then he’d be Bottom 10 but in show, he was pretty good. He had some good entertainment value and I liked his dynamic with Cat and Alan in the turret. However, he’s definitely a victim of past reputation affecting suspicion levels. The big dog theory was completely correct and it and it completely destroyed Jonathan’s run. However, I did like him for the time he was there even if he was always destined to do the worst out of the three traitors. 

116: Peter (US2): Tough one to rank. In theory, his gameplay was excellent, he had good reads and made strong alliances through the Peter Pals. However, he absolutely tanks in terms of watchability. The Peter Pals are my second to least favourite clique on the franchise (UK3’s clique will always be rock bottom), they just came across as really arrogant and unwelcoming and Peter was kind of at the head of that. I did like Peter’s gameplay but he can only go so high. 

115: Mike (NZ2): And here we have the villain of NZ2! Mike is an interesting player and a big reasonn why I like NZ2. He adds enough tension to the group without ever being too in your face about it. His backstabbing of Whitney is one of the highlights of the season and it made for great TV when the plan utterly backfired in the next episode. The reason I feel fairly confident about placing Mike this high is because his banishment I find to definitely be a case of good faithfuls rather than Mike make a mistake when banishing Whitney. Mike wasn’t a bad traitor at all, he just had really good faithfuls to contend with. 

114: Bergie (US2): Bergalicious was an absolute delight in terms of watchabiity and he’s easily my favourite member of the Peter Pals in terms of pure watchability, He just seemed like such a lovely guy and I loved his relationship with Phaedra. However, I do find he can blend in a bit at times, largely because of the amount of big personalities that ran rampant in the Peter Pals. A good player overall and allied himself with the right people. 

113: Meredith (CA3): Meredith had an underratedly difficult time in show. She pretty much got targeted by Listette the whole time and always had some level of suspicion on her. This made her have a decent underdog run but it was clear she was never winning. Also, I’m not going to get into BTS stuff, but if you know, you know and I can’t imagine that helped either., I thought she just seemed to be completely drained by the end and I can’t blame her.  

112: Yam Yam (US4): Yam Yam was actually a very fun player and it was nice to see him outlast Rappaport. However, we all know his big moment is when he got murdered, it’s one of the absolute best scenes in traitors history, everything about it is perfect. The way that he just gets dragged away while screaming Lisa’s name is peak television. Alan’s hosting style being so dramatic only helps this. I just appreciate anyone willing to stand up to the likes of Rappaport as well.  

111: John (US2): Outside of the show he’s also Bottom 10 of all time, a complete serial bully who has a dreadful reputation here in the UK. However, on the show he was pretty good. He was a member of the Peter Pals so made some good alliances and also had pretty good reads on the traitors. I just find him to be hilarious in the missions as well, the way he put so much effort into going as hard as he possibly could was hilarious. Bercow was shockingly likeable on the show and I do appreciate how he was really the only person to apologise to Peppermint at the reunion.  

110: Kyra (CA2): And here’s another villain! Kyra is incredibly interesting to talk. I really liked her in terms of villain edits up until she started to go in just a little bit too heavily on Michael John. I get he was a bit of a liability, but I do think she became a little bit tedious to watch after this point. Neda obviously had clocked that she was in her won words ‘a scary scary girl’. But she does absolutely define Canada 2 to a tee which is why she’s up this high. I know some people don’t like how her and Nick consistently kept protecting each other, but I see that much more as a point against Nick compared to Kyra. Really effective villain, I quite liked Kyra even if she did overstay her welcome just a tad.  

109: Omar (CA3): Omar could have been great but sadly he just went in way too hard. He did manage to clock Coco and tried to go against her in the round table but sadly due to good gameplay by Coco along with appearing a little too abrasive he was banished at said round table, it was a shame that he did try and pace his arguments against Coco a bit more as he was really onto something. 

108: Sam (UK4): Sam is a very unique one. On the one hand, he started off being heavily suspected by the group and had votes at all but one round table while he was there. However, once he decided to focus on the social side of his gae a bit more, I actually began to really like him! He ended up having a fairly good underdog run before he was banished and even voted out a couple of traitors along the way, However, he was just way too suspicious in the early game and was also suspected when Fiona got banished so he was never surviving until the end game. 

107: Faraaz (UK4): The complete definition of ‘there for a good time’. He was just so chilled out about everything  and it was great to watch. He was hilarious in the missions, particularly the milkmaid scene and it’s again one of the greatest mission moments in Traitors history. I really liked Faraaz and it’s a shame he wasn’t a bit better at the game itself, hence why he doesn’t crack the Top 100! 

106: Siale (NZ2): Siale is interesting. He had a pretty good social game and I really enjoyed the ‘Pacific Ring of Fire’ in terms of alliance groups. However, I found that he targeted Noel just a little bit too much that it verged on uncomfortable and ultimately was pretty much on borrowed time for most of the last part of the game. I did like him as a recruited traitor but Bailey was always going to be the last one left. Really fun player overall though! 

105: Evie (UK2): A very quietly perceptive faithful who was one of the first people onto Paul. Evie actually was a very strong player with a voting record of 6.5, one of the best of all time (the .5 comes from voting for a traitor again at a tiebreak). She pretty much clocked all of the traitors apart from Harry and was a very strong player throughout. Sadly, in terms of watchability, she was just a bit dull and getting confused with Charlie all season didn’t help at all. 

104: Dylan (NZ1): A fan favourite in our sub and someone whi I liked a lot too! He had a really good analytical methodical approach to the game and I really liked him! However, he did appear to be a bit too much of a threat a bit too early which sadly spelled the end of his run. He had absolutely amazing reads and pretty much clocked all of the traitors at some point. However, he was a clear threat to the traitors and he was then murdered.  

103: Johnny (US4): One half of the skating duo and for me the slightly weaker one. Seemingly a really nice guy who was actually pretty good at the game. He has a voting record of 5 with 2 being against the group which is incredibly strong. Love his friendhsp with Tara as well, I think we all wish we could have a friend who we appreciate as much as the two of them appreciate each other. I liked Johnny a lot and he would have been a deserving faithful winner. 

102: Natalie (US4): Natalie is an interesting one. She was absolutely phenomenal at missions and was good at round tables. She did eventually manage to get onto the fact that Rob was a traitor but wow did her social game tank once she realised. I fully believe she could have survived if she had handled it differently but she just became super abrasive at the round table and it did her no favours. It’s a shame because before this point, I actually thought Natalie had a great chance at victory and I would have liked to have seen her take it home. 

101: Brodie (NZ1): Brodie just misses out on my Top 100 by the skin of her teeth! In terms of gameplay, she was great! She stopped the pile on to Robbie and managed to suss out Matt as a Traitor. All of this sounds great, so why is she not in my Top 100? Well, surviving is a major part of gameplay in the traitors and Brodie just went in super hard super early so she was always going to be murdered. Plus, she’s only around for 4 episodes so we didn’t get a ton of time with her watchability wise. I wish she had lasted for longer, she would have definitely been in my Top 100 if so. 

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u/RowGonsoleConsole — 18 days ago

A Bold Prediction for PZ2

So, of course we're all very excited predicting what could feature in Planet Zoo 2! I'm seeing tons of great speculation and I agree with almost all of it. However, I made a prediction a couple of months ago before we even got the first trailer. I said that I thought the Sumatran Rhino would be in PZ2 based on the fact I thought PZ2 would have a greater focus on conservation and it would be the perfect animal to include.

A couple of months later and we now have confirmation of the Sunda Islands Tiger (Sumatran Tiger nowadays) which sadly now only exists on Sumatra. In one screenshot we can see a picture of one in a wildlife reserve, and this would imply that there will be a Sumatran based wildlife reserve. This to me makes it more likely that whether it's part of the base game or DLC, we've got a good shot at seeing the Sumatran Rhino being included.

However, I'm going to make an even more most likely absurd prediction aboujt PZ2, by the end of its run, I think we'll have all 5 species of rhino. Let me explain, The Black and White Rhino will almost certainly be included at some point and it would be insane in my eyes to scrap the Indian Rhino. With the inclusion of a most likely Sumatran Reserve the Sumatran Rhino looks very possible.

That just leaves us with the Javan Rhino which is definitely the most complicated. There are currently none in captivity, there are very few good quality photos of them and they're very similar to Indian Rhinos. However, I think there's a good chance at some point we'll get a Southeast Asian DLC, and I think Ujung Kulon National Park on Java has potential to be included as a new wildlife reserve. It would make a lot of sense, it's home to a lot of very conservation heavy species, it is very aquatic based so would make sense for PZ2s mechanics and it could potential tie in to maybe doing something interesting with the Sumatran Tiger (the Javan Tiger used to present here and it's the exact same subspecies). And if they were to do this, the Javan Rhino would surely be included as it's the animal the park is primarily known for.

So yeah, thats my bnold prediction now we have more info on PZ2! I'd love to know your thoughts!

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u/RowGonsoleConsole — 19 days ago

Every English Speaking Traitors Player Ranked: 150-126

And we're back again with the next installment in this crazy project! Again the usual reminder to keep it nice in the comments!

150: Gail (CA2): Similar to Pakman, and Kirkland definitely one of the better faithfuls from Canada 2. Fair play to her for keeping her cool among such a drama ridden group. Sure, she was a bit clueless but she’s more enjoyable to watch compared to a lot of Canada 2’s cast (at least in my opinion). 

149: Fay (UK1): Fay actually had a really good strategy by writing everyone’s votes at each round table. She wasn’t trusted by most of the group at the beginning but managed to get herself back into the game and ended up surviving for a good while until she was murdered. It’s just a shame she never voted for a traitor as her strategy was great! Seems a lovely lady as well! 

148: Stephen (UKC): Obviously a legend in the UK. Very entertaining and naturally exudes leadership qualities without even really trying! The big dog theories really were his downfall as he hadn’t really done much to be suspected. A bit of a clueless faithful outside of that so while he’s great fun, he can’t go any higher. 

147: Bob H (US3): I liked Bob H quite a bit. Had some good gameplay value as he voted for Bob TDQ and later began to suspect Boston Rob. Also has an impeccable sense of fashion and good watchability value! Super positive influence on the first half of US3. 

146: Amos (UK1): Obviously a smart dude who could have been higher had he been there longer. Managed to figure out that Maddy wasn’t getting listened to and took the time to actually listen to what she was saying (even if half of it was absolutely nuts!) Had a lovely relationship with Andrea and an overall very good social game. 

145: Kara (CA3): An underratedly really good player! Has a voting record of over 50% and was mostly very trusted by the group except from Jamal. A shame she didn’t get a bit more screentime as she fades into the background compared to a lot of the big characters from Canada 3! 

144: Clare (UKC): Was onto Alan fairly early, which gives her some good gameplay value! If I had to describe Clare, it would be decent. She has some good gameplay value was very likeable and overall was just a pretty solid cast member. Again, a victim of not getting a ton of screentime in a season with a very memorable cast!  

143: Kevin (US2): So Kevin was pretty good. He made some good alliances, especially because of the fact he was one of the most prominent member of the Peter Pals. He voted for both Dan and Phaedra and for the most part, I thought he was a great faithful. Unfortunately, the Peter Pals definitely fit into the definition of a clique which drags him down a bit.  

142: Midy (AU1): Midy showed a ton of promise but sadly didn’t last very long. Almost succeeded in his plan of banishing Angus but sadly never got to see it through as he was murdered early. Had both a strong solo and social game so an obvious early murder by the traitors. 

141: Stephenie (US1): I must say this now. If we were judging based on out of show stuff, Stephenie would be in the Bottom 5. I am basing this list on show only so the fact she’s a far right idiot won’t be taken into account. In terms of the show, Stephenie was easily one of the best gameplay wise from US1. Was onto 2 traitors and made some strong alliances among the faithfuls. Not the most interesting however, which drags her down. Despite the fact that she was beginning to suspect Cirie. 

140: Whitney (NZ2): Whitney definitely had a huge impact on NZ2. Arguably took the lead in the first incarnation of the traitors in that season and was quite cutthroat in terms of gameplay. However, I think where Whitney falls a bit is the fact that her more cutthroat gameplay style gets superseded by another player in the same season. Plus, she did crumble a bit when said other player backstabbed her. 

139: Ruth (UKC): Anyone who is critical of Jonathan Ross is a hero in my books! Obviously, Ruth’s main play was the fact that she was onto Jonathan very early which is a huge plus! She was also highly entertaining and surely has one of the best dress senses in the franchise, similar to Bob H! Great fun and good at the game, shame she didn’t last longer. 

138: Reece (UK4): Felt bad for the poor guy. By Episode 5, it was clear he just wasn’t having a good time but survived the Round Table by chance anyway. Seems a really lovely guy and had some great entertainment moments like when he was literally losing the will to live when Fiona was trying to save him from the cage! I liked Reece a lot! 

137: Claire (AU1): Claire is interesting. She almost reminds me a bit of Alyssa where at the start, it looks like she’ll be a fantastic traitor but then sort of crumbles and then gets voted out. The reason I have Claire ranked a lot higher than Alyssa is because one of the big reasons she was voted out was because Marielle backstabbed her. I liked Claire but ultimately, AU1 has traitors I far prefer. 

136: Joe W (UKC): Very entertaining, in fact I’d say he’s one of the most entertaining cast members from a season that had one of the most entertaining casts we’ve seen. He also persuaded the legend that is UK2 Paul to appear on the show so take that one how you will! Gameplay wise, he did vote for Jonathan and survived for a while but there isn’t that much to discuss. His entertainment carries him. 

135: Anna (UK3): I liked Anna, she was a pretty decent player. Outside of a few people, I actually think UK3 has an incredibly solid cast and Anna is the definition of solid. She gets a good amount of watchability points because she got a bit of an underdog edit. However, her Magnum opus was being ahead of her time and voting for Minah. This was the only time she voted for a traitor but it definitely gives her a lot of gameplay value! Soid player, I liked her! 

134: Matt (UK4): UK4 easily has one of the most consistently decent set of players and Daniel Radcliffe I mean errrr... Matt pretty much sums this up. His main point of interest is obviously when he tried to get the traitors to recruit him as a traitor but outside of that, he had a pretty compelling rivalry with James that was sort of bubbling throughout the whole season and seems a lovely guy outside of the show. A bit of a shame there isn’t more to him in terms of pure gameplay as otherwise, he could have been an all time great! 

133: Arie (US1): A very odd player to discuss. I quite liked Arie for the time he was in the game but I do find his quit takes him down a few notches. I really don’t know why so many people from the US version get so het up when they don’t win or feel cheated out of it. I know they’re reality TV stars and it’s kind of their thing to overreact to losing, but I genuinely refuse to believe that you can get so agitated over a game. As for Arie himself, I quite liked him overall, he was a solid recruited traitor, just a shame he was a complete sore loser (not Kieran level but up there).  

132: Elen (UK3): Poor Elen, gone way too soon. She had so much potential in terms of both gameplay and watchability. She was onto the fact that the turret consisted solely of women, which she was completely correct about. In addition, she was really bonding with Charlotte over being ‘Welsh’ and I have no doubt that if she’d have stayed in longer, we’d be seeing some absolutely great moments! I think Elen’s banishment was the point that I realised that I wasn’t clicking with the UK3 cast as much as UK2 (obviously thast changed as we still have plenty of UK3 players left to go!) 

131: Anthony (UK2): A victim of being completely misunderstood...... let that sink in. I felt a bit bad for Anthony, sure he had an all time terrible social game but he was helped by the other players (outside of maybe Charlotte) in the slightest. I love Diane and Jasmine but I do feel they wound him up a bit needlessly. He was a bit abrupt but he obviously wasn’t intending to be rude. He had some great theories especially surrounding Pul and I won’t lie in saying, he’s also just incredibly funny. His uncloaked reactions were also just incredible, he’s one of the people that hasn’t been brought back to commentate on a future season but I’d really like to see him, he was a really good sport when he got voted out! However, there’s a similar type of player in UK3 (who actually gets voted out at the exact same point!) who I prefer. 

130: Andrew (IR1): Nice fella who has quite a lot to him for a 7 episode run! From gaining power at the start causing John and Gemma a fake exit to voting for two traitors and then being recruited himself and being bainshed immediately after, there’s quite a lot to him. It’s a shame that he didn’t last a bit longer and Nick accepted recruitment the second time. I actually think had Andrew not been found out immediately after recruitment, it could have changed Ireland’s endgame for the better. Also the secret relationship with Paudie is perhaps one of my favourites across the whole franchise, it’s easily one of the best bits about Ireland.  

129: Lisa (US4): A really fun player who I quite liked. Gameplay wise, aside from Donna she was definitely the weakest of the US4 traitors but I liked her significantly more than Candiace. Considering the housewives tend to be my least favourite group in the US versions, it’s great to see one who was significantly more watchable. She handled Colton fairly well for the most part until it as clear he was just going to push her name no matter what. I’m not sure what she’s like put of show, but she’s easily one of my favourite housewives we’ve seen.  

128: Andrea (UK1): Social game wise, Andrea is one of the best we’ve seen. She was incredibly trusted by the rest of the group and obviously well liked. She was an absolute trooper during the missions and had a lovely friendship with Amos. It’s a shame she just wasn’t great at looking for traitors (a trend with quite a lot of the UK1 cast) and did fade into the background a bit towards the end of her run. But she was good and I really liked her! 

127: Ivan (UK1): If there was any player I wanted to see go further into UK1, it was Ivan. He was reportedly onto Amanda so it’s a shame he didn’t stay longer! But what we saw of him was great. He had to deal with the brunt of Tom’s weird destructive shift after the red brekkie. His exit speech is absolutely among my favourites, he absolutely took the opportunity to take Tom down a peg or two and I loved him for it! Clearly a smart bloke and a shame he didn’t stay longer! 

126: Mai (CA1): Considering what my preferences for a player in this game normally is, you may be a little surprised to see Mai this high up on my list. I'm not normally a fan of big drama players who have more drama value than gameplay. Mai only voted for Kuzie once and that’s all she really delivered in terms of gameplay value. However, I’d be lying if I said Canada 1 definitely needed a bit of spice to remain interesting. It’s easily one of the dullest seasons (not bad just a bit dull) and Mai definitely injected a little bit more interest, at least for me. I get why people might put her lower but she definitely kept CA1 interesting. 

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u/RowGonsoleConsole — 20 days ago

Every UK2 and UK3's Favourite Player Before They Appeared On The Show

Thought this was interesting, this mostly comes from the pre season contestant interviews but I thought this was cool to look at and I haven't seen it mentioned before.

It's a shame UK4 didn't ask the players this. I would love to have known who Rachel, Stephen, Jessie, and Harriet's favourite players were!

A bit of detective work and other searching was needed for a few who I wasn't 100% sure on.

As another note, Freddie's two favourite players were Sam and Harry but he went out of his way to talk about how much he liked the AU version and especially Sam so I put him down for Sam instead of mixture.

u/RowGonsoleConsole — 22 days ago

Every English Speaking Traitors Contestant Ranked: 175-151

And I'm back again with another installment in this crazy project. We're now getting into players I like so that's cool!

Just the usual reminder to keep things nice in the comments! Thanks for doing this so far!

175: Wilkin (IR1): Wilkin is an interesting player to talk about and definitely serves a very distinct role in the season. He gets presented as the laid back player who’s just there to have a good time. I could definitely justify placing him higher but he sadly has one problem. I think there is a player who has this edit in a different season that I prefer. I do like Wilkin, I just feel he gets superceded. Not particularly great at the game either. 

174: Terry (NZ2): And here is my pick for the best first banishment in traitors history! It’s such a shame he was voted out first. I really think he’d be viewed as one of the absolute greats if he wasn’t. Jane put up a really good defence and sadly, Terry was banished. Absolutely the best first banishment! 

173: Brian (UK2): I’ll be honest, Brian really shouldn’t be up this high. However, he’s only here for one thing, his final mission and round table. It’s an absolute car crash in the best way possible where he can’t even coherently defend himself and I love it! It’s absolutely among my favourite Traitors moments ever and I always end up coming back to it somehow. 

172: Mel A (CA1): Definitely the better Mel form Canada 1! Mel A actually played fairly decently despite not receiving a lot of screentime. She made good alliances with a lot of the faithfuls and eventually started to suspect Kuzie as a Traitor. However, sadly she didn’t manage to get enough votes for her argument and ended up being banished instead. I liked Mel A, a shame he didn’t see her Kuzie argument through 

171: Alyssa (UK1): Alyssa is a very interesting traitor to discuss. When she first gets picked, she looks really promising. She manages to get Nicky banished, seems under the radar and a very watchable player. But sadly, as time goes on she starts to be a little bit too quiet which makes a lot of people suspicious of her. Combine this with some offscreen impressions of Claudia and sadly Alyssa ends up being eliminated at the halfway mark. I did like her a lot, but she didn’t play a versatile enough game. 

170: Jonny (UK2): Nice guy who seemed to be pretty trusted until he wasn’t. Arguably a bit nothing until his banishment episode but I thought he had a really compelling story and I’d argue his banishment was when Harry really began to start cooking on gas! Maybe some people think  this is too high but I just appreciate players who I find compelling. 

169: Gurpyar (CA1): The guy was ahead of the game. He was suspicious of Mike very early on but sadly didn’t really get a lot of support from other players. Therefore, Mike saw it as a calculated risk to get rid of him and it paid off. 

168: Molly (NZ2): Molly is an interesting one to discuss. Her first couple of episodes were absolutely setting her up to be one of the main characters of the season, but sadly, she just became a bit invisible after that. She did have a really good voting record and her first few episodes carry her a decent way, but she can’t go any higher than this. 

167: Ross (UK2): I’ll be honest, Ross like Brian is only up this high for entertainment reasons. He adds so much to the dynamics of my absolute favourite season of the show. However, in terms of gameplay, he is one of the worst ever, he did vote for a few traitors but it was almost always with the group and towards the middle of his run, he was just a bit loud and wrong

166: Anjelica (US1): I actually quite liked Anjelica. I do think generally the civilian players from US1 were very poor but I actually thought she was one of the better ones. Sure, she had a massive blind spot for Cirie but I’m always a sucker for the quieter more wallflower type players which Anjelica sort of was (but then again she also wore her heart on her sleeve). Not too bad. 

165: Ria (CA3): Again, only up this high because of her impact on the season. Gameplay wise, she was pretty dreadful. Didn’t vote for a single traitor then got recruited and used as a scapegoat. However, she seemed really lovely and I think it’s a shame she was the one who got used as the scapegoat (but understandable). I quite liked Ria overall even if she had very little gameplay value! 

164: Justine (NZ1): The NZ1 cast is the definition of solid and Justine pretty much symbolises that. She voted for a couple of traitors and made a few good alliances. But sadly, she gets overshadowed due to NZ1 having some really great faithfuls! 

163: Cody (US1): The first traitor out from the US version. He was fine but crumbled a lot under the pressure and sadly couldn’t regain his composure. Nowadays, I also find he just fades into the background a bit whenever I watch US1 and doesn’t really do a ton in terms of watchability. 

162: Chloe (AU1): And here she is our favourite psychic! Genuinely one of the absolute strangest players we’ve seen on the show. Seemed to be doing ok for the first couple of days, then got super heated, called out four random players she thought were traitors, sotmred out of the round table and proceeded to quit the next morning. I still remain confused as to what exactly happened but I can’t accuse her of being boring. 

161: Crystal (CA1): A farily solid faithful from one of the more forgettable seasons. Voted for Mel B and was one of the first people who was onto Mike. Sadly, she got murdered quickly after. 

160: Natalie (CA3): Not too much to discuss gameplay wise but watchability wise I actually really liked her!  A very well liked player among the contestants and it’s a shame that we didn’t see her go a little bit further! 

159: Julia (NZ1): Another NZ1 player who I would just describe as solid. Although, gamerplay wise, she’s probably the best NZ1 faithful who didn’t win. She just didn’t get a ton of screentime despite the fact that she actually had a really strong voting record and seemed to be doing well in terms of gameplay! 

158: Kyle (US1): Kyle is an interesting one. It’s a shame he didn’t last a bit longer because I think he could have actually been a good faithful! He was onto Cody but went in a bit too hard a bit too early and ended up being banished. I’m also not a fan of how he seemed to think that being introverted was suspicious (I’m glad Azra called him out). Not too bad overall/ 

157: Craig (AU1): Here’s another big one! Watchability wise, the guy is top notch, especially in the endgame. From Episode 10 onwards, I really liked him, he was a bit dull to begin with but seeing his wonderful relationship with Nigel was fantastic. It’s such a shame it had to be him taken to the end and betrayed. I (spoiler alert) absolutely love Alex but I do get why people find this ending to be the most uncomfortable (especially when you look at BTS stuff). As a big Alex fan, I still feel awful for Craig, had it been anyone else, they wouldn’t be this high on my list. 

156: Dirk (AU1): Very solid orator at the round table and all around just seems like a lovely guy! This is out of show but I really love how much he’s stood up for Alex post show. He voted for a couple of traitors which gives him some gameplay value, a shame he didn’t get a bit more screentime because as Fi said, he was a very good speaker at the round table. 

155: Kirkland (CA2): Felt bad for him, it’s a shame when pretty much the whole group turns against you when you are suspicious of someone and get it wrong. I thought Jasmee, Melinda, and Tranna (I still love her) got a little bit too personal and I fully sympathise with how he felt. A shame he didn’t go further.  

154: Pakman (CA2): In a season of generally terrible gameplay, Pakman was one of the few solid players. He had a fairly good social game and was onto Michael-John before he was banished. To be honest, because of just how poor the gameplay in CA2 was, anyone remotely ok stands out.  

153: Rob C (US4): A shame he didn’t last longer, I know I say that a lot but I really mean it with Rob C. He 100% would have been one of the main players of the season if his last episode was anything to go by, him catching onto the murder in plain sight was absolutely fascinating and I would have loved to have seen him get further. He also voted for Rappaport the first opportunity he got which I can’t help but respect.  

152: Ciara (US3): I’ll be honest, not great gameplay wise but she’s just too funny to put any lower. It was hilarious that her mouth got her into trouble. I really liked Ciara, even if there’s very little to talk about in terms of gameplay considering how far she made it into the season 

151: Kate (US1/US2): And we’re ending off this part with a huge one! I know so many people who will think this is way too low, but just hear me out. I’m not a fan od players who are destructive to the morale of the game, and sadly Kate in the first season was exactly that, she wound up a lot of the other players, seemed to hate her time there and overall I just didn’t enjoy watching her. However, she is absolutely carried by her second appearance. I actually really liked her, and she completely won me over! She really made me laugh and actually turned out to be an ok recruited traitor. If she only appeared on US2 then she’d be much higher, but her first appearance massively drags her down for me. 

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u/RowGonsoleConsole — 24 days ago

The Worst Season of the Traitors I've Ever Seen (Stay Away Unless You're Genuinely Curious)

I normally have a pretty high tolerance when it comes to seasons of this show not being the best but Flanders Season 1 absolutely takes the cake.

Walter and Loic made this hard to watch, I'm not surprised Jamie looked completely done on her last day. They constantly talked over and patronised her in the conclave along with making snide digs about her behind her back just because she's a youtuber. I loved Jamie, easily my favourite person on this season but sadly, she wasn't enough to save it! I genuinely don't know how she kept her sanity thoughout this absolute shitshow (I feel bad for Astrid too)

This season is easily the most misogynistic I've seen, it absolutely reeks of it. None of the men would listen to anything the women said and this resulted in perhaps the weakest group of faithful winners I've seen (yes one of whom I would consider worse than Meryl and Dolores).

If you are remotely sensitive to prejudice, bias and misogyny then absolutely stay away from this season.

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u/RowGonsoleConsole — 26 days ago

Thoughts on NZ3 So Far

While I enjoy every season of the traitors I do feel that this is a step down from NZ2 thus far (although that's a very tough act to follow!).

Madeleine is definitely a step up from Paul but they could definitely do a bit more with her, I don't think her costume designers have done her wonders and she just doesn't get enough screentime to do a lot.

The missions sadly continue to be a bit of a low point for NZ. I've always thought that out of the English Speaking versions, NZ have had the weakest missions and that continues.

Sticking to game only, this is probably tied with Ireland and AU2 as my least favourite group of traitors ever. Maybe things will change but I don't see anyway that Jill or Keanu win. I do agree with the people that in terms of dynamic, the three traitors together definitely reminded me of >!Ash, Blake, and Sam!< a bit. They're not nearly as extreme in any one direction but I do see why people see the similarities.

What Brad did definitely deservedly got him banished but until that point I was on his side. I just don't particularly enjoy players who are playing as more of a character. This is not hating on Keanu at all! He handled the Brad situation fairly well considering the circumstances and he seems like a lovely guy but so far, he's been given a bit of a villain edit which I don't think was the right way to go unless something happens later on.

I like Sam a lot and Dave is really growing on me! So that's all good but I feel that perhaps a recruitment or two is needed to really give this season a little bit of spark.

Also, because not as many people tend to watch NZ compared to UK and US, it doesn't normally become too personal but let's ensure it stays that way, everyone's kept things focused on the show thus far but let's keep things cool! It's ok to have a difference of opinion (whether you're on Brad's side or Keanu's, personally I'm not really on either!) and I worry that this gets mistaken for toxicity. Let's discuss different opinions but keep it nice!

Have a great day everyone!

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u/RowGonsoleConsole — 27 days ago

What Are Your Biggest HK Hot Takes?

I would love to know some of your HK hot takes and I will try and respond to as many as I can!

Here are some of mine:

Marino is better than JP, I found JP a bit unprofessional for a Maitre D and I thought he was overly snide at times.

I'm not fond of Jason Z from S12. I found him way too over passionate and I didn't like how he used physical intimidation in arguments (especially in his feud with Sandra, I don't blame her for not wanting to help him win).

S12 generally is overrated. Scott and Rochelle are all timers but aside from that, there isn't anyone I find remotely compelling.

Virginia was the rightful S2 runner up (I know this isn't as hot nowadays).

S22 has superceded S6 as the best season (no idea if this is spicy or not).

I prefer the modern seasons to older seasons because of Ramsay becoming more of a mentor.

Holli rightfully won S7 and Jay winning would leave him as easily the most unlikeable winner.

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u/RowGonsoleConsole — 28 days ago

Ranking Every English Speaking Traitors Player: 200-176

We officially cross the halfway mark today! We're now getting into players that I quite like so that's good! Again. just the usual reminder to not include anything out of show or make any personal attacks towards contestants or each other. Lets go!

200: Kash (AU1): A shame she went quite quickly because I actually think that she could have had an interesting run. But unfortunately, Chloe accusing her of being a traitor along with 3 others was her downfall and she just happened to be the one they homed in on first. I felt bad for her, she didn’t even make an attempt to defend herself. 

199: Patrick (IR1): Poor guy. He just didn’t even really stand a chance of winning. Everyone just seemed to suspect him. He voted for 3 traitors and was actually fairly good in terms of gameplay. It’s just a shame that he was so heavily suspected by the group. 

198: Dolores (US3): Now this might be controversially high, while Dolores is the weakest of the US3 winners by some margin in terms of both gameplay and watchability, she didn’t do anything wrong per se and I did find her continuously voting for Tom to be hilarious! And hey, she at least had a good enough grasp to confidently end the game with 4 players left. 

197: Nikki (US3): Our second member of the bambis and one I quite liked. Outside of being a member of the bambis and being put in the coffin there isn’t a ton to her but I liked her during the short time that she was there. A shame that she was pretty much a dead woman walking after being put in the coffin. 

196: Imran (UK1): A surprisingly mixed run considering he was there for such a short amount of time. He started off by getting into an argument with John about supposedly not wanting the older cast members on his team but after that he got a lot better. Definitely quite an abrasive player but I appreciate how he voted with who he genuinely thought was a traitor at his final round table instead of just voting for Aaron to save himself. 

195: Sheree (US2): Voted for 3 traitors but all of them were with the group. Sheree mostly stayed under the radar for most of the season but did get more screentime towards the end. As I mentioned with MJ last time, I do think that the non CT US2 late game faithfuls get a bit overhated. I don’t dislike them even if some of them were a bit clueless. 

194: Ellie (UK4): Automatically got a bit more screentime than some others purely because she was in a secret relationship. In a season of generally very watchable players, I just found Ellie a bit less exciting. Not bad, just a little bland. I still liked her well enough but out of the UK4 players who made it past the first 3 days, her and Jack stick out for being a little bit dull. 

193: Robyn (US3): Got weirdly heavily suspected after having a grand total of one argument with a player who was in the wrong anyway. But after this, she just became a bit bland and didn’t really do a whole lot, eventually being murdered early on 

192: Blake (AU2): And here is another big one! Watchability wise, I didn’t think Blake was too bad. He seemed to be a nice contrast to Ash and especially Sam and I think had he been grouped with some different traitors, he could have potentially won. However, that’s sadly where the praise ends. He completely misjudged the endgame and could have very easily won it had he actually made an effort to work with Camille. There was a really easy path to voting out Sam at the final 4 and he just didn’t capitalise on it. Watching AU2 again, it is genuinely nuts how easily he had a path to victory and just completely misjudged it. I did feel bad for him at the firepit, but it was partly his own doing. 

191: Fi (AU1): While not perhaps the type of player I necessarily enjoy as she reminds me a lot of NZ2 Brie, I did think Fi had a fairly decent run. She made some good alliances even if she was a bit chaotic. Her big problem was when she got so heavily fixated on Matt. Now while as previously stated I’m not Matt’s biggest fan, I do think this is what led to Fi’s downfall. She did vote for 2 traitor but both were with the group and she voted for Matt twice during this portion of the game. 

190: Rayan (UK1): I quite liked Rayan. He didn’t necessarily say much until his final couple of episodes but I thought he spoke well at round tables. It’s a shame that he didn’t convince more people, because I actually thought that he defended himself really well!  

189: Mark (US4): Came across as fairly likeable even if he wasn’t particularly great at the game. Definitely a player who excels more in watchability over gameplay even if he did vote for Eric eventually. Unfortunately, he was heavily allied with Rob R so was never going to win unless he suddenly had a breakthrough moment. 

188: Peppermint (US2): One of the more memorable early exits. Such a shame she went so soon, even if it was partly her own doing. I know Peppermint being banished so early and Trishelle’s antics in the first couple of episodes are a bit controversial but honestly, I don’t think we have enough information to tell if Trishelle genuinely did suspect her, or if there was something else going on. However, being LGBTQIA+ myself, I did really feel for her. There is a good chance that there is more offscreen that we didn’t see but unless we get any more info, I’m slightly giving Trishelle the benefit of the doubt on this one, I just don’t think we know enough about what happened. 

187: Monet (US4): I think Monet had a lot of potential if she had been around for a bit longer. She voted for Donna and was beginning to suspect Lisa but sadly was murdered immediately after. Probably my favourite drag queen that we’ve had on the show, even if I don’t think any version has tapped into the true potential of drag queens on the show.  

186: Charlotte (UK2): Charlotte is an interesting player. She was very heavily allied with Paul which I think has led to a lot of people not particularly liking her but I disagree (I am not talking about her out of show actions!). She just put her trust in a traitor before eventually seeing the light and voting to banish him. I don’t mind Charlotte at all, and I like show she tried to be a bit more calm with Anthony compared to a lot of the others.  

185: Linda (IR1): Easily the player from Ireland I wanted to see go further. She was really beginning to get onto the right track by the time she was banished and it’s such a shame she didn’t make it further. Maybe this is a hot take, but had she stayed longer, I think she could have been Oyin levels of good. But she just didn’t have a long enough run to show it. 

184: Andie (US1): Here’s another big one! The infinitely more watchable firepit faithful from US1 (well to be honest it isn’t much of a competition). I did feel bad for them, it was really clear how much they wanted it and I get how it must feel to have something so huge that would really change their life snatched away at the last moment. I can tell Cirie felt awful about having to do it as well. I liked Andie, a shame it had to be them at the firepit. 

183: Lisa (UK3): We’re officially in the top half! And we’re kicking things off with UK3 Lisa. I quite liked her, she didn’t do a ton gameplay wise but I just found some of her comments about being a priest really funny. It’s clear she wasn’t taking the game too seriously which I really liked and was very self-depricating. Also her big reveal to the cast about being a priest was just absolutely hilarious! 

182: Maia (UK3): Second UK3 player in a row! Maia pretty much gave the green light to banishing Armani whch gives her some points. But what really puts Maia up this high is her confessionals, I think she’s a contender for having the best confessionals in UK3, they were absolute gold! She did end up fixating on Freddie but it didn’t impact the game much.  

181: Nick (CA2): I feel a bit conflicted on Nick. On the one hand, he does have a bit more going for him than the majority of the CA2 faithfuls as he vote for Michael John twice. However, I’m just not particularly fond of how he played the game. I just don’t understand protecting your secret relationship that much to the extent that you’re willing to keep them in even if you think they’re a traitor. However, once Kyra got banishes, Nick was always going to be murdered shortly after. 

180: Wes (US3): Wes is an interesting one to talk about and another one I feel a bit conflicted on. On the one hand, he made some very good arguments on why he thought Boston Rob was a traitor. On the other hand, he absolutely tanked watchability wise and put his points forward in such a domineering way that I actually kind of wanted to see him banished. I quite liked him for the first part of his run, but wow he tanked his own game completely. 

179: Angus (AU1): Gameplay wise, Angus was not a good traitor in the slightest. He made several slip ups and was pretty much a sitting duck to get banished. However, he was just really likeable and I really wanted to see him make a bit of a comeback. I think AU1 does a fantastic job at building up a really good dynamic between the traitors and Angus was a big part of this. 

178: Christine (IR1): Definitely among the more watchable players from Ireland. She was very likeable and definitely seemed to be having a lot of fun! Sadly, she wasn’t particularly good at the game itself. She does get some bonus points though for having a really memorable exit. Credit for being onto Katelyn quite early however and I did enjoy her watchability wise! 

177: Lucy (UKC): I wasn’t too familiar with Lucy going into UK Celebs and she really won me over! Not necessarily very good at the game but very likeable and some of her confessionals were great. Especially her reaction to Celia’s banshee noises! She also has a very memorable murder, Uk Celebs is absolutely fantastic at creating memorable moments and this was just one of them. I liked Lucy, very watchable! 

176: Ayan (US3): Yet another early exit I wish had gone further! Ayan was around for such a short amount of time but still she managed to really entertain me with some great confessionals! Definitely a much more watchable housewife compared to Dorinda who was also an early exit from the same season. I have absolutely no idea who anyone from the US version is and The Housewives are my personal least favourite group generally but I actually really liked Ayan! 

Anyway, that's all for today, a few potentially controversial ones but generally a lot fine to decent players!

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u/RowGonsoleConsole — 1 month ago

Ranking Every English Speaking Traitors Player! 240-201

We're back again with this crazy project of mine! Again, just the usual notice to make sure to keep things nice in the comments and don't personally attack the contestants. This is especially important today as I will be covering what I believe to be one of the most controversial moments of any season. At the end of the day, it's just a game! Anyway, lets go!

240: Mary (CA1): A bit of a nothing player but seemed to be doing well during the time she was there. One of the first people be onto Mel B and then was onto Mike just before she got murdered. 

239: Amy (IR1): Surprisingly invisible considering she was heavily allied with a winner (Kelley). Not much of substance to her game and was murdered just before the season fell off!  

238: Ryan (US1): Ok enough. Didn’t do very much but was clearly well liked by the rest of the cast and was very good at the missions! 

237: Vanda (NZ1): Again a bit of a nothing edit considering how far she made it. I think they were trying to make her into a bit of an underdog but it didn’t really work for me 

236: Niko (UKC): Pretty alright considering he didn’t have much time there! Had some really funny confessionals and clearly a bit starstruck to be surrounded by so many huge names. Honestly went up in my estimations considering I wasn’t fond of him beforehand. 

235: Shelbe (US1): Didn’t vote for a single traitor but definitely very likeable (one of the most likeable of the civilian players from that season). Nothing of note gameplay wise, but she wasn’t too bad. 

234: Tony (US3): Seemed to have a very big reputation but honestly, he just didn’t do much. I’d like to have seen him go a bit further. 

233: Janay (NZ2): Easily among the best first boots ever! Got quite a bit of screentime considering she was the first one murdered. Defnitely set the standard for the memorabiity of this seasons cast. Seemed really fired up about the game so it was a massive shame to see her murdered first. 

232: Tameka (UKC): Really like her outside of the show, so a shame she didnt last longer! Seemed to attract a lot of suspiction from the beginning so was never going to last long. 

231: Henoc (CA2): One of the slightly more watchable faithfuls from CA2. Was onto Michael-John early so it’s a shame he didn’t stick to it. Seemeda really nice guy and definitely didn’t like to see his fellow faithfuls leave. Nice guy, too early of an exit to cause an impact 

230: Gyton (AU2): Pretty memorable considering he had a short run. Voted for Ash before she got banished so has a bit of gameplay value. A shame he left early, I think he actually had potential. 

229: Niall (IR1): Fully carried up this high by the Gaelic mission. Seeing someone just completely carry a mission is something we often see so it was great to see an early exit get their time to shine! 

228: Thompson (CA3): Seemed to have potential, and ultimately I think CA3 does a great job of making everyone memorable, even the early boots. But he just didn’t do much, 

227: Hugo (UK4): Maybe some people think this is a bit too high. Absolutely tanked his own game by making a speech about Ben and generally just seemed to try way too hard. But he was just really funny and I absolutely love the first episodes of UK4 for Hugo’s entertainment value alone! 

226: Yin (UK3): One of my favourite first murders! She did put a massive target on her back and was a clear choice to be murdered first but I loved her for entertainment and I still think about her song all the time! 

225: Meg (UK2): Seemed nice and being in the dungeon makes her a bit more memorable but ultimately was trying to play a wallflower game which didn’t gain her a ton of screentime.  

224: Ekin-Su (US2): Had an interesting murder but ultimately just really didn’t do much. It was good to see a reality TV personality who was a bit quieter but apart from that, she didn’t do much. 

223: Nicky (UK1): I’m still shocked so many people went after her over something that she couldn’t control. Easily one of the best first banishments, seemed to have good leadership skills and I wish she had stayed longer. 

222: Keith (UK3): Sped run how to be an entertaining contestant in a very short amount of time. We still talk about the karate footage and ‘Nather’ to this day! I liked Keith a lot and out of the 5 tragic UK3 early boots, he is among my favourites. 

221: Theo (UK1): Had some really entertaining moments and some of his reactions were gold but just played the game way too emotionally. The minute he got super emotional after Claire was murdered, I knew he was unlikely to win 

220: Adam (UK4): Fairly forgettable faithful that took over the reins of going after Jade once Amanda left, Does get some bonus points for his infamous ghost hunting quotes though!  

219: Mickey (CA1): Seemed a nice guy but a surprisingly invisible edit considering he ended up being recruited. Definitely a good wallflower faithful but ended up becoming a bit of a pawn for Mike by the end. 

218: Maz (UK4): Gets some bonus points for having a memorable exit. Seemed nice and a shame he didn’t last a bit longer. 

217: Meryl (UK1): Maybe some people think this is too high, gameplay wise she is definitely the weakest winner. In terms of watchability however, I thought she was great. While I love Maddy (spoiler alert), I do think she needed to be challenged at times and Meryl wasn’t afraid to do it. Sure she was wrong right until the final fire but I liked her quite a bit! 

216: Amanda (US1): A shame she had to leave early as she seemed likeable during her stay. Didn’t ever vote for a traitor but definitely among the more watchable of the civilian contestants. 

215: Faye (IR1): Ok, here we go, this is a big one! The person banished in my least favourite round table in the entire franchise. The complete definition of overhated. Sure, she wasn’t great but I’ve seen some disgusting comments about her since the season has aired. In the words of a certain subreddit, I kind of think the Episode 11 Round Table was just a bit of an ESH situation (everyone was super tired so I do have a lot of sympathy!). Nick was out of order and definitely riled Vanessa up but at the same time, I did think Vanessa was overly harsh. Maybe I sympathise with her a bit because I’m also a very emotional person but her banishment and the Episode 11 (and 10) Round Table generally sum up everything that makes Ireland among my least favourite seasons. Not very notable gameplay wise, and she didn’t exactly help herself but I didn’t mind her. 

214: Paeden (AU2): Among the best of the AU2 early exits! Seemed to be thinking strategically and handled the drama with Elias quite well. A shame he didn’t last a bit longer.  

213: Charlotte (UKC): I’m a big Charlotte Church fan so maybe I’m biased but I thought she had some good moments whilst she was there. I think she could have done more had she been around longer. 

212: Charlie (UK2): She’s one out of 3 players who are quite local to me (even though I’m not from Bristol!). UK2 has generally a very good standard of players and good editing on top of that, but I do think Charlie is the weakest who lasted into the second half.  

211: Kate (UKC): Not particularly memorable other than the fact she was a bit clueless and lasted a long time. Among the more forgettable players from UK Celebs. 

210: Leon (UK3): Seemed to be a bit of a leader for ‘the clique’ but was also easily the most watchable at the same time. Had a fairly decent social game and I do think he had potential to do better than he did. I appreciate the fact that he apologised to Freddie as well! 

209: MJ (US2): I’ll be honest and say I’m kind of on MJ’s side about the US2 finale. There was absolutely no reason to banish her and I’m surprised CT and Trishelle hadn’t worked out that it was incredibly unlikely that were any Traitors left. Sure she’d be among the weaker winners but hey I’d rank her higher than Meryl! I definitely feel she’s overhated but maybe she’s done something out of show I’m unaware of? Because other than that, I don’t think she deserves the criticism. 

208: Tracey (UK2): Not too bad from a gameplay standpoint. She was onto Ash quite early which was good and she’s among the better clairvoyants we’ve seen! But a bit invisible outside of that. 

207: Judy (UK4): Definitely among the best first banishments! Part of this was because of her secret relationship but also because she just came over as a really good underdog! She was being suspected at every angle and still fought on. Liked her a lot! 

206: Matt (UK1): So, shocking piece of info. Did you know that Matt liked Alex? I bet you never figured that out. This does giver him some very good entertainment value. But overall, I did just find him to be a little bit uninteresting. Not much of note in terms of gameplay, and after the red brekkie, he became invisible. 

205: Larsa (US2): Voted for a traitor during her short stay so that’s good. I also liked how she stood up to Janelle a bit, as I’ve previously stated, I’m not Janelle’s biggest fan so seeing this was appreciated! But outside of that, not the most interesting.  

204: Roha (AU2): Roha is definitely my favourite player from AU2 who didn’t make it to the second half. He had some very funny moments considering he was only around for a few episodes and I think he had the potential for a great social game. Sadly, we didn’t get to see too much of him.  

203: Justine (AU1): I think AU1 does a fantastic job after the first 3 episodes of making everyone memorable, Justine is definitely the most forgettable of the people who lasted past that point. She seemed nice and I liked that she stood up to Matt a bit but for the most part, she just wasn’t that interesting.  

202: Travon (CA1): Generally very little of note considering he was a finalist but does get a lot of bonus points from me for the fact that he was onto Mike! But at his final table for whatever reason, he voted for Donna instead. 

201: Jeremy (US3): Seems to have a very big reputation outside of the show so I was curious when he went on. I don’t really know anyone from the US version but Survivor is definitely my favourite conceptually of the shows they pull from so any contestant from it is always appreciated. His relationship with Tony was interesting but it didn’t really hav time to take off.     

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u/RowGonsoleConsole — 1 month ago

This Guy. Just This Guy

I'll be honest in saying that while I do enjoy the drama of dinner services in early HK, I think Scott's behaviour crosses a line. He's what people who don't watch the show think Gordon Ramsay is like. I have no idea how he managed to last 10 seasons on this show when he acted used physical intimidation at times. I'm not James or Jay's biggest fans but wow they are an upgrade!

u/RowGonsoleConsole — 1 month ago