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Historical FMVP voting

Bill Simmons' erroneous claim that only five people voted on FMVP led me down a rabbit hole: how many people did vote each year? We know it's 11 now and has been since at least 2015, after which all votes have been made public as follows:

2026 Brunson 11-0

2025 SGA 11-0

2024 Brown 7, Tatum 4

2023 Jokic 11-0

2022 Curry 11-0

2021 Giannis 11-0

2020 LeBron 11-0

2019 Kawhi 10, FVV 1

2018 KD 7, Curry 4

2017 KD 11-0

2016 LeBron 11-0

2015 Iguodala 7, LeBron 4

But what about before that? Previously I'd found very little information. Now, thanks to the good folks at NBAstats.net, here's full-ish data back to 1978:

2014 Kawhi 10, ??? 1

2013 Lebron 11-0

2012 LeBron 9-0

2011 Dirk 9-0

2010 Kobe 7, Gasol 2

2009 Kobe 9-0

2008 Pierce 9-0

2007 Parker 9, Duncan 1

2006 Wade (unanimous)

2005 Duncan 6, Manu 4

2004 Billups (unanimous)

2003 Duncan (unanimous)

2002 Shaq (unanimous)

2001 Shaq (unanimous)

2000 Shaq (unanimous)

1999 Duncan (unanimous)

1998 MJ 11-0

1997 MJ (unanimous)

1996 MJ 6, Kemp 3, Rodman 2

1995 Hakeem (unanimous)

1994 Hakeem (unanimous)

1993 MJ 11-0

1992 MJ 11-0

1991 MJ 11-0

1990 Isiah 11-0

1989 Dumars 11-0

1988 Worthy 7, Magic 4

1987 Magic (unanimous)

1986 Bird 9, McHale 2

1985 Kareem 13-0

1984 Bird 11-0

1983 Moses (unanimous)

1982 Magic 5, McAdoo 3, Nixon 1

1981 Maxwell 6, Bird 1

1980 Magic 4, Kareem 3

1979 DJ 4, Sikma 3

1978 Unseld 3, Hayes 2

From this we can also construct FMVP shares (analogous to MVP shares), again updating my previous attempt:

Player Count Share
Michael Jordan 6 5.55
LeBron James 4 4.36
Shaquille O'Neal 3 3.00
Tim Duncan 3 2.70
Magic Johnson 3 2.49
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 2 2.43
Hakeem Olajuwon 2 2.00
Willis Reed 2 2.00
Larry Bird 2 1.96
Kawhi Leonard 2 1.82
Kobe Bryant 2 1.78
Kevin Durant 2 1.64
Stephen Curry 1 1.36
Bill Walton 1 1.00
Chauncey Billups 1 1.00
Dirk Nowitzki 1 1.00
Dwyane Wade 1 1.00
Giannis Antetokounmpo 1 1.00
Isiah Thomas 1 1.00
Jalen Brunson 1 1.00
Jerry West 1 1.00
Jo Jo White 1 1.00
Joe Dumars 1 1.00
John Havlicek 1 1.00
Moses Malone 1 1.00
Nikola Jokić 1 1.00
Paul Pierce 1 1.00
Rick Barry 1 1.00
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander 1 1.00
Wilt Chamberlain 1 1.00
Tony Parker 1 0.90
Cedric Maxwell 1 0.86
Andre Iguodala 1 0.64
James Worthy 1 0.64
Jaylen Brown 1 0.64
Wes Unseld 1 0.60
Dennis Johnson 1 0.57
Jack Sikma 0 0.43
Elvin Hayes 0 0.40
Manu Ginóbili 0 0.40
Jayson Tatum 0 0.36
Bob McAdoo 0 0.33
Shawn Kemp 0 0.27
Pau Gasol 0 0.22
Dennis Rodman 0 0.18
Kevin McHale 0 0.18
Norm Nixon 0 0.11
Fred VanVleet 0 0.09

[I've assumed 1969-77 were unanimous until proven otherwise]

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u/teh_noob_ — 10 days ago
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Spencer Haywood took $100k cash instead of 10% of Nike in 1970. The contract blunder worth $2.8 billion today.

https://preview.redd.it/phtv6lb4hbsh1.jpg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=01976f32a29b3f4709f55f9fa65d227f9c20d4bb

In 1970, NBA superstar Spencer Haywood had just won an antitrust case in the US Supreme Court that allowed underclassmen to enter the NBA draft.

A young Oregon footwear startup called Blue Ribbon Sports (later renamed Nike) was desperate for an NBA superstar endorsement.

Phil Knight offered Haywood two options:

  • Option A: $100,000 cash upfront.
  • Option B: 10% equity ownership in Nike.

The Forensic Contract Math

Haywood asked his agent to accept the 10% equity. However, his agent panicked about immediate cash commissions and signed for the $100,000 cash without Haywood's full understanding.

Metric 1970 Decision 2026 Valuation
Upfront Cash Chosen $100,000 ~$750,000 (Inflation Adjusted)
10% Nike Equity Offered $0 Initial $2,800,000,000+ ($2.8B)
Difference Lost N/A -$2,799,250,000

Today, Nike's market cap sits near $120 billion. That single contract misunderstanding remains one of the most expensive endorsement blunders in athletic business history.

r/GhostContracts - Forensic Sports Finance, Bizarre Clauses & Buyouts.

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u/Far_Cupcake3823 — 14 days ago
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Jim Pollard now has the earliest triple-double (December 28, 1949) in the Basketball Reference database after a recent update

Some context: Technically, it's impossible for Jim Pollard to have a triple-double in 1949-50, since rebounds were not "officially" tabulated until 1950-51.

However, just because it wasn't "official" doesn't mean that someone wasn't counting. Just as Basketball Reference has added many unofficial blocks, steals, and turnovers, we have also found some limited unofficial rebounding numbers such as pollard in that game.

So Pollard has perhaps the first triple-double in the history of basketball (and at least the first triple-double we've seen where someone was counting at least three distinct categories of positive contributions).

Source: https://www.sports-reference.com/stathead/tiny/xG0Vr

Link to Box score: https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/194912280MNL.html

Link to the newspaper clipping: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-minneapolis-star/207211876/

u/Basketball_Reference — 13 days ago