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Just for fun: what do you think Karen Walker was taking every day besides alcohol?

I know it’s totally absurd and not meant to be realistic (which is why it’s funny IMO) but I’m just curious. What pills would an almost billionaire heiress be taking everyday?

I dont know anything about pharmaceuticals or drugs which is why I’m asking the smarter people of Reddit lol

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u/anonymousquestioner4 — 5 days ago

Speechless

Speechless (Season 6, Episode 22). Will, Jack and Karen are waking up from a big night of partying to celebrate Jack graduating from nursing school. There's one big problem though, Jack misread the announcement and his graduation is that day and they are running late. They all get ready as fast as they can but Will cannot wake Grace up, so they decide to leave without her. Jack needs one more thing, his speech at the graduation ceremony since he was voted most popular student. Jack tricks Will into writing his speech for him since Will was a former playwright. He has a few tries until finally he writes the perfect speech that leaves everyone in tears. At the ceremony Jack starts the speech that Will wrote but realizes that these are not his words and he doesn't feel comfortable being a nurse. He wants to go back to acting, he tears up the speech and decides not to be a nurse.

FAVORITE QUOTE:

WILL: For your information, that "stupid little play" was my coming out story, Bye-Bisexual. That play was genius. You--you-- My playwrighting professor, Craig, even said so. He told me that I was a great writer, and any man would be lucky to have me. He even took me to a wine bar and then back to his apartment to discuss it. Wait.

KAREN: So you wrote a bad play, and you were molested. Welcome to the theater.

JACK: Can we get back to my speech, please? I only have an hour.

WILL: You know, I think I may still have a copy of Bye-Bisexual in a satin box with all of Craig's letters.

JACK: So, Karen, what should be in my speech? I want it to be memorable. It should have a catch phrase like "I have a dream" or "Whoomp, there it is."

KAREN: Well... Why don't you write about how you wanted to become a nurse because you love helping people.

JACK: Good one, Karen. Come on, Karen. Be serious. How does anybody know why they do what they do?

KAREN: Well, Jackie, let me tell you my story. Maybe it'll inspire you. Now... God didn't give me the ability to play the piano, or paint a picture, or have compassion. [SIGHS] But... he did give me the ability to crack a walnut with my hoo-ha.

JACK: Really?

KAREN: Hmm-mm. Here, let me show you.

WILL: Got it! Boy, are you guys in for a treat. Listen to this poetry, even in the opening stage direction.

WILL: "Darkness, a sliver of light finds its way upon the stage and lands on a dark chair. Because it is somewhat dark, we cannot see the whole chair. More light appears and inhabits the entire chair. Now we can see it. A dark chair on a dark stage with some light. Dim."

KAREN: Jackie, could you beat me over the head with that candlestick until I black out and die?

WILL: You wouldn't know good writing if it slapped you in the face.

KAREN: Jackie, once I'm dead, could you see to it that I'm slapped in the face?

WILL: Come on, it gets better after the, uh, first five pages of stage directions. Here, here, here. "Chad, evasively: I don't know why I don't have a girlfriend, Dad. I-I guess I just haven't met the right--dot, dot, dot--person yet. But when I meet that--beat--person, I'll introduce you to--beat--them." Then he addresses the audience. "There is no them. Them is he. I'm gay! Why can't I tell anyone?" God, this is awful.

JACK: I know, it should've been called Bye-Bye Talent.

FAVORITE MOMENT:

When Will is reading his speech to Jack, Karen and Rosario in the limo and it's the perfect speech and their mouths are open in shock at how good it is and Karen asks Will if she can kiss him again.

OPINION:

So Grace was out of town in the last episode and in this episode, she just refuses to get out of bed. Great excuses these writers are coming up with. I have to say that is the only minor fault of these episodes. Debra Messing was taking time off due to her pregnancy. I get the writers had to come up with something, but why couldn't it have been maybe she had a family emergency and be out of town for some time or even just that she's going back to Cambodia to see if she can work things out with Leo? With saying that she just refuses to get out of bed is extremely unbelievable.

That being said, this episode is incredibly hilarious. This was another moment of how hard it was to pick a favorite quote and moment. I wouldn't know where to start on the jokes that always get me laughing so hard: Karen kissing Will, Karen admitting to calling Jack an idiot and him just loving that that's why they are friends, Jack getting upset that Will's clothes are too tight on him and telling Will "I could fit two of me in one of your Marlon Brando size jackets", Will finally realizing he was a terrible playwright, Karen filming the ceremony and when she films Rosario she screams and says "Ah! Stampede!" and when Will freaks out about Jack ripping up the speech because he didn't make another copy. The jokes are non stop with this episode. We get another glimpse into Will being a writer, though he didn't start of strong, so that's probably why he never perused it, that or others told him not to do it. I'm still dying to read his play from "No Sex N The City" titled "If Gay Means Happy, Why Am I So Sad?". I have to give credit to Jack for being able to trick Will with compliments and getting him to write his speech for him. "And it's no coincidence that nurses, like angels, wear white." I gotta admit that's such a good line.

So am I upset that the nursing school story line was a waste of time? Yes and no. It's weird how this is the first thing outside of acting that Jack actually paid attention to for more than 5 minutes and he didn't even get a chance to experience being a full-time nurse. From what I read the writers thought the storyline would be funnier, but it wasn't working out, so they just scrapped it. You can definitely tell that they just threw it out the window. Now, is it shocking though? No. I actually could see Jack doing something like that. Jack gets distracted easily and always changes his mind and I can see how Will's speech probably got to him. You know it's interesting, I know actors have different schedules and sometimes they can't make it, but why is it not even explained why there's no Elliot, Jack's mom and/or stepdad or Stuart at his graduation? Only Will, Karen and Rosario went to support him?

But like I said, minor flaws aside, I do love this episode. I think because it just makes me laugh so hard. Now I believe this is Nurse Sheila's last episode if we do not include the reboot. I'm still deciding if I'm going to review the reboot because I gave up after the first season and would have to subject myself to rewatching it. I didn't enjoy the first season of the reboot, so we'll see. But anyways, to Nurse Sheila, my favorite cringe nurse of all time, thanks for all the laughs!

GUEST STARS:

  • Laura Kightlinger as Nurse Sheila
  • Amy Crofoot as Female Student
u/Naive_Hospital_4086 — 5 days ago

I Never Cheered for my Father

I Never Cheered for my Father (Season 6, Episode 21). Will is on his own with Grace being out of town and Tina, his father's mistress drops by. Tina tells Will that she suspects that George is cheating on her, so Will says he'll look into it and ask his dad what is going on. Well, George is having an affair, with Will's mom, Marilyn. Marilyn tells Will that the reason they are having the affair is because it's exciting when it's forbidden. Will is actually happy thinking this means his parents are back together and tells Tina that George is cheating and she should break up with him. Tina does dump George and this makes Marilyn angry because she loved being the other woman. Tina comes over the same time Marilyn is there and they confront each other for the first time. Will tells Tina to stay away from George and for Marilyn to get back with George and that's the end of it. Marilyn and Tina step into the hallway and tell each other how they loved what they had going on with George and what days they get to have him. Elliot is trying out for the cheerleading squad and Jack is thrilled and wants to help him get on the team. But Elliot doesn't make the team and Jack and Karen go to his school to find out what went wrong but Elliot is humiliated and tells Jack he didn't want to be on the cheerleading squad, he just wanted to impress Jack so they'd spend more time together. Jack promises to make a better effort to be there for Elliot.

FAOVORITE QUOTE:

MARILYN: Hello, Will.

WILL: Mom! What's going on? Where's Dad?

MARILYN: He's in the shower.

WILL: In the sh-- You're the other woman?! You're the one that Dad's sneaking around with? You and Dad are--are-- You know... thinging.

MARILYN: Will, we're adults. Let's talk like adults. Your father and I are making pookie-pookie.

WILL: Oh! How did this happen? I mean, like, I know how this happens. You showed me when I was 10 with two of my G.I. Joes. I'm not saying that that led to anything, I just... How did this happen?

MARILYN: Well, a few months ago, I ran into your father, and we decided to have a drink. Oh, it was fun. He made me laugh. We caught up, and, you know, one thing led to another and before I knew it--

WILL: You don't have to finish that.

MARILYN: Pookie-pookie.

FAVORITE MOMENT:

Jack, Karen and Elliot's cheer always gives me such a good laugh. "Hi, Cowboys. Hi, Sailors." "Hi, musclemen and cops."

OPINION:

As I mentioned, so Debra Messing will not be on for the rest of the season. She was full term at this point and needed to focus on giving birth to her first baby. She actually had her child the day this episode aired which I thought was interesting. It's just funny watching the excuses they come up with that Grace isn't in the episode because she's "out of town". We'll see how long this can work.

Interesting, there is a lot of mention of George, but no George appearance in this episode. But we do have a treat with Marilyn and Tina meeting for the first time. Talk about an awkward situation with Will trying to help them both. God bless him at this point I'm sure a therapist would have a field day with Will playing best girlfriend to both these ladies. I do love how Tina keeps referring to Mairlyn as a W-word(can't say here on Reddit) and that she hopes George gets an STD from his new mistress not knowing that it's Marilyn. Then when she and Marilyn do meet, I love Marilyn's little burn at Tina with "Well, I must say, you're almost exactly as I imagined you. You're like page four in the Midlife Crisis catalog." As crazy as this plot is, I personally love Marilyn and Tina's characters, so I'm always welcome to their appearances. Blythe and Lesley are hilarious. Plus I could see Marilyn getting into having an affair with George, she comes off as classy and like she would never stoop so low, but when you get a taste of bad, sometimes it just feels good. I would say poor Tina, but honestly, with how messed up the situation is, maybe the splitting of George just works best for their relationship. Gosh, these people are messed up in the head.

Elliot is back for his only episode in season 6. It was kind of funny how we haven't seen him for some time but he got a mention in Courting Disaster, so a reminder that he still existed. I do get such a kick that Jack wants to help Elliot try out for cheerleading. Karen helping out too was hilarious, I just love when she gives her bloody mary to one of the cheerleaders and tells her "no sippies". Sara Paxton who plays Melanie, the cheerleading captain and Elliot's crush, was awesome to see. I loved her in The Innkeepers and Last House on the Left. Like I said in my favorite moment, Jack, Karen and Elliot doing that cheer will always get me laughing so hard. Especially how Elliot breaks down and Karen still does a spin and sit saying "School spirit!". It's kind of sad though that Elliot has to constantly beg Jack to spend time with him. I don't know if the actor Michael Angarano maybe couldn't commit to being a lead again in the show or the writers couldn't find room for him in the stories, but we had a plot for a while back in season 4 and 5 where Jack mentions how much his stepdad hurt him growing up and ignoring all the things he liked to do. Jack is doing the same thing to Elliot.

But overall, for comedy and making me feel icky, I really like this episode. Like I said, any time Marilyn and Tina are in an episode, you know you're in for a treat. Plus it was really nice to see Elliot again and see that he's still alive.

GUEST STARS:

  • Blythe Danner as Marilyn Truman
  • Lesley Ann Warren as Tina
  • Michael Angarano as Elliot
  • Sara Paxton as Melanie
u/Naive_Hospital_4086 — 6 days ago

Marcus 🧡

I loved Marcus in the reboot (S10)! I wish they'd done more with him & Grace. They had such good chemistry and he was so funny. I think we only see him interact with Will & Karen, but I think he would have been a great long-term addition to the show. Two episodes (S10E18 & S11E02) were not enough!

Plus, Reid Scott is so hot! 🔥

What do you all think?

u/Reggie9041 — 6 days ago

Looking for Mr. Good Enough

Looking for Mr. Good Enough (Season 6, Episode 14). Will, Jack, Stuart, Joe and Larry are taking a cooking class together that's being taught by famous cook, Ann who has a prostatic finger she likes to show off that she can burn. Turns out though that it's a couple's cooking class so every student has their partner with them except Will is single. Everyone keeps mocking how Will is single and giving him pity but he swears he's fine, that is until a hot guy, Adam walks in asking about the class and Will begs him to join his station. Will really likes Adam a lot and they seem to be clicking. Stuart tells Will that he's happy that he and Adam are getting along, Jack was feeling so bad for him that he was going to pay a prostitute just to make sure Will was not alone, which Will laughs at until he sees Jack paying Adam. Will is now convinced that Adam was a prostitute hired to keep him company, he accuses Adam which Adam is hurt and walks out. Will tells Jack he saw him paying Adam, Jack says it was for jewelry he was buying Stuart and Will realizes he just insulted a nice good looking man and runs to get him. Ann admits that she did actually hire Adam to keep Will company because his being single was bringing down the class. Meanwhile, Karen's mother, Lois, is in town and buying an apartment so she can be closer to Karen but mentions that it definitely needs a decorator. Karen recommends Grace but Lois is on a tight budget of $1,400 for 5 rooms. Grace takes the job thinking that Karen will help throw a few extra dollars her way, but Karen promised Lois that she wouldn't help because Lois doesn't want to take any money from her. Grace has to do a lot of the work herself and have Karen and Rosario help. With a lot of decent resources, Grace is able to make the apartment into something beautiful and there's a lady down the hallway who wants to buy the apartment for more than $100,000 than what Lois paid for it. Lois takes the offer and cuts both Grace and Karen in on the deal. Grace tells Will about the apartment and how she was able to fix it for cheap, Will tells her they should get into flipping houses together.

FAVORITE QUOTE:

ADAM: So, Will, I hope this isn't out of line, but you up for coming back to my place later?

WILL: Well, Adam, I hope this isn't out of line, but are you a filthy w*?

ADAM: What are you talking about?

WILL: Oh, please. Let me tell you something. Will Truman doesn't have to pay for it, okay? Will Truman just goes months and months at a time without it and then pours all his sexual energy into his embroidery.

JACK: Will, what are you doing?

WILL: I know you paid this guy. Couldn't you have at least gotten somebody halfway respectable instead of this piece of rough trade from Skankville.

ADAM: I'm from Montclair, New Jersey.

WILL: Get to a clinic, h*!

ADAM: I don't need this. I may be tall, but I still have feelings.

JACK: What was that?

WILL: Oh, come on, Jack. "60, 80, 100." I saw you pay him.

JACK: Yeah, for this cute little anklet I got Stuart. Adam makes them to raise money for diabetes awareness.

WILL: But Stuart said you were thinking about buying me a prostitute.

JACK: Oh, Will, I think about that all the time.

WILL: So I just let a gorgeous, sweet man who cooks and makes his own jewelry and who was totally into me walk out that door?

STUART: No, first you called him a filthy, stinkin' h*, told him to get to a clinic, and then he kind of ran out the door.

WILL: Oh, my God! I promise I'll come back to sponge off my station.

JACK: Ugh, poor Will. That he would go to that place.

JOE: Well, what happened to him that he would think that the only way that a guy would be interested in him is if he were being paid?

LARRY: It's sad.

STUART: Yeah. Super sad.

ANN: That's why I got him the hooker! Well, he was bringing the whole class down, you know. When my husband died, it wasn't soup that comforted me. It was Adam.

FAVORITE MOMENT:

When Lois takes the offer from the neighbor for the apartment and Grace is insulted because of all the work she did but Lois offers her a third of the sale, Grace takes it, then Karen is insulted and Grace offers Karen a third of her third and Karen says goodbye to Lois in Japanese.

OPINION:

I love Tracy Ullman so this was such an awesome storyline for me, she is easily one of the funniest women in entertainment and the reason we have The Simpsons. Interesting trivia, Edie Falco who you would remember from Ferris Bueller's Day Off and Plaines, Trains and Automobiles was originally offered the role of Ann, but her schedule would not allow it, so Tracy Ullman got the role. I'll admit, I'm curious what it would have been like if Edie had the role because she's also such a hilarious and talented actress, but either way we got a terrific performance. I loved Ann, she is so out there with her prostatic finger. I love the scene where she's giving everyone instructions and telling them to double their recipes because they are a couple but telling Will to make it one because he's single, then when it comes to the salt Will is already anticipating that she will say "make it half a serving" but she says "No, use the whole one. You're on your own. You might as well bloat."

Another fun little fact that I didn't know was that Christopher Backus who plays Adam, Will's partner, is Mira Sorvino's husband. So you could figure that Will may have devastated Diane, he insults Adam who goes running, he and Diane bumped into each other and fell in love. Will's cast offs get the better deal than him. Speaking of Adam, I loved Chirstopher Backus in this, he's such a good looking guy that Will was willing to spill his food on his nice embordered apron just to get their date going. Everyone goofing on Will was so funny. I loved how we found out that Larry was more into Will before he got together with Joe and Joe admits that he also had a crush on Will too and now it's sad that he's alone. We got to also see Stuart again which I am all for and this marks the first time that Jack has a had a boyfriend return on the show, so you can see he's actually in a committed relationship. I really loved this storyline with the cooking class. The other couple, Debbie and Don, also make me laugh at how Debbie keeps telling Don that his brother is gay, but Don is in denial until he sees the other men's behavior and admits that his brother might be gay.

This is Suzanne Pleshette's last appearance on WAG, guess Lois was serious about buying that McDonald's in Japan. I loved this storyline between Grace and Karen. Of course, Debra Messing was so pregnant at this time you really could not hide it anymore and there was another joke about her weight gain. "Aw, look at you. You look fantastic. Have you lost weight?" "Uh, no, actually, I've gained a little." "Well, obviously I can see that, but it's rude to say it, isn't it?". I will always laugh at how Grace tells Karen to get to work but Karen is painting her nails and Grace tells her to start painting, so Karen takes her nail polish brush and dips it in paint and starts painting the wall with it and Grace yells at her to use the actual paint brush. Poor Rosario as usual has to do all the heavy lifting with Karen hiring her as the "burly brawny man". The apartment turned out beautiful and I actual like the mini storyline we are going to get with Will & Grace going into the business of flipping.

This is such a funny episode and I really enjoy this one. Even though Lois never left much of an impression on me, it's sad that this is her last appearance. I think I could used one more episode with her because I actually really liked her performance in this one. But Suzanne Pleshette was a wonderful actress and may she rest in peace.

GUEST STARS:

  • Dave Foley as Stuart Lamarack
  • Tracey Ullman as Ann
  • Suzanne Pleshette as Lois Whitley (RIP in 2008)
  • Jerry Levine as Joe
  • Tim Bagley as Larry
  • Stacy Galina as Debbie
  • Matt Champagne as Don
  • Christopher Backus as Adam
u/Naive_Hospital_4086 — 13 days ago

Ice Cream Balls

Ice Cream Balls (Season 6, Episode 13). Will has a new client, Stuart Lamarack, who wants to sell his company for millions of dollars. As he and Will are negotiating the contract, Jack walks in and interrupts the meeting but Will tells him to leave and shows him to the door. Will apologizes to Stuart but Stuart thinks Jack is handsome and wants to go out with him. Will asks Jack to go out on a date with Stuart but the problem is Jack has made 2004 all about women, women who walk like men. But he's still not sure if he would be into dating Stuart, Will bribes him with 74 cents and ChapStick and Jack goes for it. Well, Jack and Stuart hit it off and are clicking very well, to the point where the one date they had together they've already decided to be in a relationship. Jack comes to the meeting where Stuart is going through his contract and won't stop interrupting the meeting and is even messing up Will's job in completing the job for Stuart. Will gets upset and tells Stuart that Jack only went out with him because he bribed him. Stuart breaks up with Jack. Later on, Jack is indulging in a brownie sundae and Will sees how sad Jack is. Will completes the job with Stuart and then asks Stuart to give Jack another chance, Stuart gives in and he and Jack are dating again. Grace has to go to Leo's cabin to wait for a plumber and she takes Karen with her. As they go to bed, Grace wonders why the mattress is so tough, she and Karen find out there's money in the mattress, about $30,000 worth. Grace is hurt that Leo is hiding money from her and says she'll spend her half right now. Her and Karen go shopping and spend all the money. An older couple comes over and asks who they are, Grace says they are at Leo's cabin, they said his cabin is next door and Grace realizes she just spent their retirement money.

FAVORITE QUOTE:

STUART: I don't know.

JACK: Come on, Stuart. Yes, Will made me go out with you. Yes, I did it for all the wrong reasons. Yes, I had no feelings whatsoever when I went into this.

WILL: Let's get past the yes section.

JACK: But during the four hours we spent together, something happened. I fell for you, Stuart. Stuart Little.

WILL: I think what Jack is trying to say--

JACK: Keep out of this, Miss Match! Anyway, I understand if you don't want to forgive me. I-I just wanted to let you know how mu I care about you. Now... I'll leave you alone... forever. (JACK PRETENDS TO RUN THROUGH AN IMAGINARY CROWD PUSHING PEOPLE) Out of my way!

STUART: Will, stop him! He's getting so far away!

WILL: Jack, stop!

STUART: Jack, no one has ever done anything that romantic for me before. And in front of all these people.

FAVORITE MOMENT:

When the older couple comes into the cabin asking who Grace and Karen are. Grace thought the picture of Rita Hayworth was her and after realizing she spent all their money they threaten to get their gun.

OPINION:

Jack has always been single on the show, just a few flings shown here and there, he just typically dates around. He finally has a boyfriend! I actually love him and Stuart together, I don't know what it is but they are just adorable together. I think Jack needs someone fun and Stuart is goofy but knows what kind of fun Jack likes to have, so they blend together very well. Dave Foley does a great job as Stuart and immediately comes off as a likable guy. I love their story of how they met and how Jack only needed 74 cents and a chapstick to go out with him. But he fell for Stuart on the date. I'm surprised Jack didn't fall for Stuart immediately, but Jack is very fickle and tends to have the attention span of a ferret. Still, I'm glad he and Stuart got back together at the end. That getting back together scene will never fail to make me laugh, I loved how Jack was making it like a romantic comedy going through the invisible crowd of people and Stuart asking Will to get him and Will screaming "Jack, stop!". Will was such a good friend in helping them get back together.

The story between Grace and Karen going to the cabin and spending the money was pretty funny, but not as memorable as the Will, Jack and Stuart story. Grace is still dealing with her marriage not being in the best condition. It's interesting how they were able to spend $15,000 in one day and only in shopping. The area they were in, I'm not buying that there were high end boutiques where they could spend that much. Still, I always get such a laugh when the couple comes in and they are confronted with spending their retirement money. I hope they not only paid the couple back but gave them extra considering the anguish they probably caused. I'm assuming Grace had Leo pay them back or Karen gave them the money. I'll give Grace a little pass as I'm sure she's dealing with a lot wondering if she can trust Leo at this point, that he was so quick to put his marriage into danger because he wanted to get back to doctors without borders. It has to be so hard on her and she's still wondering if their marriage can be saved. I loved those little kisses between her and Karen BTW.

Overall this is a good episode. I'm so glad that Jack finally gets a boyfriend and I love his relationship with Stuart. Plus Will and Stuart seem to get along well so he's already clicking with half the group. Just the Grace and Karen story seems kind of bland but the A-Story is the show stealer for me and I'm glad we get more Stuart in the future.

GUEST STARS:

  • Dave Foley as Stuart Lamarack
  • Kathryn Joosten as Felicia (RIP in 2012)
  • Kenneth Tigar as John
  • Kari Lizer as Connie
u/Naive_Hospital_4086 — 14 days ago