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Done with Economics Rankings!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1j97BpC7Jc9-h7H6Y1wmSmLjeW9C9d3GL/view?usp=sharing

Thank you all for your input, without which creating rankings would have been impossible.

When I started the exercise, I had thought that devising the rankings would take me a maximum of two weeks. However, weeks passed and I ended up investing close to 3 months. Hopefully, next year it will be an easier exercise.

The rankings methodology changed significantly over the months. Initially, I had been assigning a fixed score or a rank-based penalty to postdocs, which would underestimate the schools with a higher postdoc %. Overall, I realized that the next-career move for postdocs needs to be considered. As I began to investigate the data, realized that a significant portion of the postdocs do not transition out of the role. Hence, it became imperative to correctly assign a score to those cases. There is an inherent bias in terms of recent cohorts having a higher share of non-transitioned cases. This implies that one needs to add a penalty to the final resolved placement for a given postdoc; where the penalty is dependent on the time they had spent as a postdoc.

But how to assign a score to the cases, where we don't have a next career move? For those cases, used a CatBoost model to estimate the expected scores using the transitioned postdoc data. All of these have been explained in detail in the methodology section.

Even though the modeling approach is a step in the right direction, there is scope for improvement. For instance, placement data is inherently biased (due to biased reporting); hence, one needs to tackle such cases. Currently, we use fixed-tier rankings for placements at Central Banks and International Organizations. Maybe more sophisticated approaches can be brought into the picture.

Initially, I would consider placements in think tanks and government agencies via a fixed tiered scoring method. However, I realized that government placements can be all over the place and not necessarily in research roles. Initially, I did try to segregate the research ones and assign a fixed-tier score. With the government fixed-tier score, the rankings seemed off.

Eventually, I had to drop rankings for international schools. I had spent a considerable amount of time to come up with an objective ranking. Unfortunately, even after 3 months, I could come up with no method that would objectively place Erasmus Rotterdam over the University of Amsterdam. I have no preference for any school, but quite a number of folks suggested that Erasmus is a better school compared to other schools among the Dutch programs.

Given that all the objective strategies fail to place Erasmus over other Dutch schools, I think there is something systematic that might be happening. I have looked at data countless times and yet the issue persisted.

I am more than happy to share the data for free (under a data sharing agreement) in case anyone wants to do research using them.

As PandaInUniv grows, you will continue to see richer and richer data. The data quality and standardization have improved significantly over the last 6 months. We will soon start reporting advisor names against doctoral students, suggesting an average advising quality based on placements.

The goal of PandaInUniv is to bring transparency to academia. For many reasons, there is an inherent opacity in academia, and our goal is to reduce that as much as possible. We also want to voice student concerns: in case you think you were discriminated against or harmed by university policies, please do reach out to us. We will give you a platform to raise your concerns (anonymously, if you prefer). For industry, we have glassdoor. Where is the equivalent of that in academia?

I plan to send the rankings to school admins on Monday. Hopefully, they get forwarded to you. I do hope you guys continue to support the endeavor. I can't emphasize enough how much your support means to me.

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u/Spiritual_Piccolo793 — 17 hours ago
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“Hot take: These ‘fully funded’ scholarships are deliberately designed so that most people who NEED them can’t actually get them and nobody’s talking about it”

Look at this graphic going around (from amber student). Ten scholarships, all “fully funded,” all with deadlines in the next 6 weeks. Sounds great, right? Let me ruin it for you.
The Friedrich Ebert Foundation €934/month, full tuition, incredible. Oh but you need to already be living and studying in Germany, prove near-native German language skills (DSH level 2 minimum), AND align with “social democratic values.”  So it’s a scholarship for people who’ve already figured out how to get to Germany. Cool
The Queen Elizabeth Commonwealth Scholarship: Global, prestigious, amazing coverage. But you must be from a Commonwealth country, have a 2:1 or above, and study in a low or middle-income Commonwealth country.  So the UK student reading this? Not for you. The Indian student who wants to study in the UK? Also, not for you.
The University of Westminster one offers £15,000/yr + flights but I guarantee it has a list of eligible nationalities 3 pages long that quietly excludes the most “convenient” applicants.
And ALL of them expect you to somehow know about them, apply in time, get references, write statements, possibly get institutional nominations while also being a full-time student surviving on a budget. The people with the resources and guidance to apply are rarely the people who need the money most.
Is it just me, or does the scholarship industrial complex exist more to look good in press releases than to redistribute educational access?

Edit: Yes I know some of these are legit and life-changing for the right candidate. I’m not saying don’t apply. I’m saying the system is broken, not the individuals running these programs. Go apply. But also be angry about it.

u/Much_Mix_9254 — 1 day ago

I got rejected by one program and remain 2 programs BSE (Barcelona School of Economics)

BSE applicants/alumni: if you were rejected from one program, were you later admitted to another?

I just got rejected from Economics of Public Policy, but my applications for Economics and Macroeconomic Policy & Financial Markets are still under review.

Does BSE evaluate each program separately, or is a rejection from one usually an indication of what's coming for the others?

Would appreciate hearing from anyone who has experienced this firsthand.

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u/aifona — 1 day ago
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MSc Political economy of Europe in the world

Can anyone tell me how this master is viewed because there is no other thread on here that ever discusses it.

Also who here got an offer already? And for those who are already in enrolled: can you tell me anything about it???

Thank you for your answer.

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u/serious_alpha — 2 days ago
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How to know if i am choosing the program in college.

I want to study economics with the goal of studying finance. And i have to options(programs) the first uni has a European system so i can’t major in anything i study pure economics in my bachelor and then if i would like to have a finance degree i master in it, but they assured me that many of there students work in finance after their bachelor even tho they have an economics degree. The second one is more like a school of business and they don’t have econ they will let you choose your path in the first year wether it’s finance accounting management so there i can have a finance degree. I want your help with knowing which one is better from your pov and some tips to know what to look for when comparing them ( do i look at their alumni their subjects etc…). Because i really don’t want to end up with a degree that i won’t benefit from it.

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advice for coming admissions cycle to make up for math

i'm at a top predoc and applying to econ ph.d. programs this cycle. i got my grade back for real analysis and ended up with a b+, which was pretty disappointing given that i went into the final with a grade i was happy with. i'm trying to figure out whether there is any realistic way to make up for the grade in the short window before applications, or at least signal that i can handle math.

a few details:

  • this was a retake of real analysis. i took it once during undergrad while i was quite ill, which my letter writers know, and also got a b+ then. the version i took during my predoc is apparently much harder than the version at my undergrad, possibly closer to a grad-level real analysis course there.
  • i’ve also heard some predocs say they didn’t submit their predoc institution transcripts when the grades weren’t helpful. not sure if that’s actually kosher or just something people do. if it’s genuinely optional and above water, though, i’d rather not include an imperfect grade i’m not required to disclose.
  • i do not have the budget to take an online math course before admissions.
  • math camp is an option, but it is pass/fail here, so i am not sure how strong of a signal it would send.
  • i can take ph.d. micro, metrics, or another course here, but i would not have grades by the time applications are due.

i feel pretty confident about the rest of my application, but i'm trying to figure out how to handle this specific part. i'm honestly feeling pretty discouraged right now, but i just want to find a way forward. thank you!

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for context, here are my relevant math/econ grades from undergrad. stars indicate courses taken during the semester when i was ill. my overall gpa was a 3.9x at a u.s. t10.

coursework, undergrad: undergrad micro, macro, econometrics, proof-based linear algebra, ode, linear algebra, probability, calc iii, two thesis classes, and two miscellaneous econ electives not super adjacent to my field of interest: all a/a+. real analysis: b+*

core coursework, grad level: master's econometrics: b+*, master's time series econometrics: a, stochastic processes: a-*

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u/Flat-Secretary-827 — 2 days ago

Advice for which math courses to prioritize

Looking for advice on if I need to take Real Analysis (I was planning to take it this upcoming the fall, but the professors who teach it are known GPA-tankers, one of them in particular fails nearly 50% of their class). Advice I've been given from folks at my institution is that it is better to not have Real Analysis, than to have it with below an A-. Other options for math sequences would be Abstract Algebra or Numerical Analysis (doing a double math/econ BA. I do have a couple of blemishes on my intermediate econ core classes, so I'm planning to take first year grad micro in the fall as well, and I don't want to risk lower than an A- there.).

I am currently in an Intro to Analysis course and am relatively confident I will get an A in the course. My professors here have assured me that the Intro to Analysis course is basically good enough for PhD applications, whereas the Real Analysis series itself is not super important anymore (I am planning to throw my hat in the ring this upcoming cycle and then also for predoc/RA positions and see what sticks).
Would it be ok to skip Real Analysis in this case? Primarily considering Abstract Algebra or Numerical analysis to sub in for Real Analysis, and I was already considering Combinatorial Analysis as well. I'm happy to list out my past/planned math courses outside of these if that is helpful.

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u/Defiant_Cut_1398 — 2 days ago

P/NP vs B+/A- for a Python course on PhD/Predoc apps

For context: I’m an economics undergrad applying to PhD programs (and possibly predocs) in the next cycle. I have the option to take a Python/programming course either for a letter grade or pass/no pass.

My current transcript is fairly strong in the core quant courses (real analysis, linear algebra, stats, econometrics), but I’m not confident I can get an A in this Python class.

My question: is it better to take it P/NP and avoid a B+/A- showing up on the transcript, or does taking it for a letter grade (even with a non-A) signal something positive (e.g., willingness to be evaluated)?

I’ve heard adcoms mostly care about math/econ grades and largely ignore programming courses, but I’m curious whether anyone has firsthand experience or insight — especially from people who’ve been on adcom or worked as predoc RAs.

Thanks

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u/Tommy030406 — 3 days ago

how did you gain more confidence early on in your career?

tldr: not sure if it’s imposter syndrome or if i’m actually an imposter, but if it’s the former i’d sure love tips!

i am a pre-doc. my PI has been really nice and affirming of my work. during our evaluations, he basically said that i was doing a good job but am just not very confident in my abilities despite my performance. i also notice that this is an issue with some of my female colleagues as well, and i’ve received similar feedback from other profs i’ve done research with.

i think it’s really difficult to see myself as someone who can get into a good ph.d. program bc of a few flaws on my application but can’t tell if i’m just psyching myself out or not. i think it’s good to be at least aware of the flaws in my application but it’s also making me a little stressed with the next cycle so close and so little time to improve. it’s also very difficult at this age to tell if you’d be a good researcher or not, and your first job after undergrad always involves a lot of growing pains

id love any concrete ways you all (esp. women in econ) have helped figure out your imposter syndrome, especially when you were very early in your careers. any tips on navigating the weird pre-doc phase would also be helpful. thanks!

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u/20cabbages — 3 days ago

Do authors respond to emails with questions about their papers?

Hi
When reading papers, I often find myself asking questions like “Why did they not do that additional analysis?“ or “Why did they not inlcude a variable X in the regression?“ (as everyone I assume). Usually such questions are about minor details and I don’t think too much about it. But occasionally, they seem very important to me. For instance, when I believe a crucial variable was omitted in one of the main regression.

Do you think it makes sense in these cases to email one of the authors and ask them about it? Will they even bother to answer?

I guess it would be a waste of time and I shouldn’t do it. But maybe someone will say the opposite and this is actually a way to get to know future co-authors (?)

Extra question: Is the probability of getting an answer higher or lower when I point out that I am a student and making clear that the question is out of pure curiosity?

Assume I am talking about papers that are about still-hot topics, in decent journals, not very old etc.

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u/Miserable_Air_5272 — 3 days ago

What certifications do employers actually value in economics?

What are some valuable certifications for an economics student besides the CFA and ACCE that can genuinely strengthen a CV and improve internship/job opportunities?

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u/Jyggalag17 — 3 days ago

Advice on recruiting for econ consulting

Hello everyone! I am new to reddit so I apologize if this type of post isn't appropriate for the subreddit. I'm currently a college junior, and recently started exploring full-time economic consulting opportunities for a 2027 start date (firms like cornerstone, brattle, cra, etc.). I have a solid understanding of the field, but before I begin seriously recruiting, I wanted some advice about the competitiveness of my profile and how I can improve (largely so I can set expectations as someone new to the field).

About me:

- Junior at T20 college, econ + math major, 3.9 GPA

- 2 internships in tech industry (growth at startup + corporate strategy at F50), neither involved extensive data analysis

- Upcoming internship at healthcare consulting boutique firm (more management consulting than econ consulting) where I’ll be doing some SQL/data cleaning work

- Teaching assistant for upper-level econometrics class (use Stata, R, etc.)

- Coursework includes game theory, research in industry analysis, industrial economics, and linear/modern algebra

- No formal research experience outside of 2 research-based class projects

The last bit about formal research is what I am concerned about. I did some searching on linkedin about the backgrounds of people at these firms, and almost everyone had some sort of undergrad research experience with an established professor. Research opportunities at my school are pretty accessible, but I would start in August which is when I apply.

How important of a factor is formal research experience for getting an interview? Also looking at my profile, is there anything you would recommend I emphasize/improve on my application materials that would help? I appreciate any advice, thank you!

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u/UsedPart7631 — 3 days ago

What should I minor in?

Hey y'all, I'm currently doing my bachelor's and I'm majoring in Applied Economics. I'm having a hard time picking a minor though, does anyone have any suggestions? I'm pretty much open to anything except finance/accounting

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u/ApprehensiveSpite827 — 5 days ago
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Ashoka entrance MA Eco

Gave the exam today- there was a technical glitch in the middle. What do you all think about the paper?

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u/Toibee — 5 days ago

PSE employer reputation in the US?

I was wondering how PSE is viewed among employers in the US? I was admitted into their Sustainable Impact Analysis MSc and am hoping to return back to the US after graduation. I don’t speak French and while I would try my best to learn while there, I don’t think employment in France would be possible. My understanding is its lesser known in the US than other European institutions like LSE which I was also admitted to but the cost for that is too much.

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u/MediumPopular3249 — 4 days ago

choosing a niche

hi! i'm an undergraduate reading philosophy, mathematics and economics. i wish to do a masters, and then a phd in economics. i enjoy reading marxian economics, works of political economists, developmental economics and post-Keynesian works. i'm drawn to figures like amartya sen, and other philosophically and morally rich economists.

my question here, is that how does one choose a niche, that they wish pursue during their research as well. according to the above given profile, where do you think i should look next? so that i can move towards finding a niche, that i can stick to and prevent drifting off, which i tend to as a highly restless and curious person.

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u/Cultural-Maybe-3799 — 4 days ago
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Built a coordination layer that treats Gödel-incompleteness as a routing problem, not a wall. Looking for people to break it.

Posted here a year ago about an early version of this and got crickets. Fair. The framing was off. I led with "survives Gödel," which reads like a crank flag. Let me try again, honestly.

What it actually is: a loop architecture that mints a token (XP) only when measurable entropy reduction is validated across a closed loop. Propositions the system can't verify internally aren't "solved." They're externalized, DAG-audited, and routed around. That's the Gödel handling. Not a defeat. A detour.

The core loop:

Xt → At → XPt → Rt+1 → Xt+1

XP formula (v3.1.2):

XP = R · F · ΔS · wE · log(1+T)

- R = rarity (property of the action-class, never the actor, which kills the reputation-laundering attack)

- F = frequency-of-decay

- ΔS = measured entropy delta across eight domains (thermodynamic, informational, semantic, epistemic, behavioral, economic, relational, temporal)

- wE = domain weighting

- T = time-to-settle

The math is invariant under actor swap. Same ΔS, same XP, regardless of who reports it. That's the property I most want stress-tested.

Not claiming this is finished. Not claiming it's correct. Claiming it's specified well enough to break.

Code: https://github.com/00ranman/extropy-engine

Context/writing: https://lladnaros.com

Two things I'd actually like feedback on:

  1. The actor-invariance argument. Is the commutativity tight, or am I missing a Goodhart vector?
  2. The externalization step for unverifiable propositions. Is routing-around genuinely Gödel-respecting, or am I smuggling in a meta-system that just pushes the problem up a level?

Tear it up.

- Randall

u/Few-Bluebird9443 — 6 days ago

Stuck in a creative rut - tips for getting out?

I'm currently a predoc trying to think of ideas for personal research - whether publishable or just honestly for fun/to do some economics. I've written papers before, but I'm finding myself in some sort of creative rut in coming up with ideas and research questions. Every time I try to think of what I'd like to study I hit some sort of brick wall. I have semblances of ideas, but nothing that feels like a concrete question with say, some X and Y to study. More just something I think is neat. It's gotten to the point where I'm questioning if I even belong in this field if I can't think of papers to write. Does anyone have any tips on how to work out of this rut? I'm reading papers and have found topics that are interesting, but it feels really really hard to find the "right" idea (I'm trying my best not to let perfect be the enemy of good, but it's difficult :)). Thanks!

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u/Dyljam2345 — 4 days ago