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Compliant communication

I am in the HS setting and am wondering how others in this setting approach communication with parents and coaches?

Typically, I stick with email but I have had a few incidences of parents asking for a way to text me, especially over weekends or if I refer their child and they want to send updates. I tell them the best way to contact me is email or my work phone line (which forwards to my cell), but a couple have been adamant about texting. While they are adults I still don’t fully feel comfortable sharing my personal phone # with them. I don’t have a physical work phone either only a phone # operated through zoom but it doesn’t have texting abilities.

Secondly, with coaches it is usually email but every once in a while they will send me a text asking for an update on a kid. Trying to keep privacy in tact I abbreviate names and/or point them to my emails I send with updates.

I’ve been able to stick with email even through some pushback, but then I got curious. Are there options out there?

Has anyone encountered this and found solutions?

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u/ersilva14 — 1 day ago

wanting to leave the profession

I became an ATC in 2022. I came from a poor single parent family with little to no guidance from the adult in my life on most everything and really had no idea what I was doing in college. Don’t want to solely blame my parent but was very clueless on what to do and thought I could try PA. I was failing and at the time i was playing college sports in my junior year and my coach told me to do something else and I liked an ATC class in college and so i did and he made me feel good about the decision and i never really looked back until I was in grad school and realized that ATCs do not make good money. I feel like our preceptors just made athletic training sound awesome and no one ever really shared the real truth about how wild this job can be? At that point i was terrified and felt too deep in the program and everything I had done and just finished it because I didn’t know what else I would do and I just continued. Fast forward to now, I am drowning in debt. I know that’s nothing special and most of us probably are, i feel burnout, i feel like I don’t even know how to make decisions if that makes sense. overwhelmed. I got switched from my previous sporting assignments of football, xc, t&f and lax to Mens and Women’s soccer, men’s basketball and lacrosse. I was not expecting this change and starting into it has made me feel like i want to quit every single day. I feel trapped. I feel like I will never escape the financial burden of what school cost me (88k) and I make about 65k before taxes and I just feel like i choose the wrong profession, I feel lost. I don’t know what to do or what else I could look into. I want to go back to school to be a PA but the schedule I have is so incredibly busy and it makes life miserable. I started a&p1 last spring and it was really rough. My mental state feels so messed up right now. I don’t feel like I can trust anyone at work, maybe everyone feels that to an extent? It seems like I picked the wrong career and i feel trapped. Any advice or directions. I honestly feel like I need to quit. This new sporting assignment with no inclusion on the decision was quite shocking and i expressed to my co workers i. the spring I didn’t not want to switch any of my sporting assignments and then management made this decision. I have no clue what to do with the masters and athletic training. I don’t know how that transfers over anywhere. I feel like I’d have to go back to school for something no matter what if I want to make decent money. I need advice or suggestions or guidance. everything feels hopeless right now and i feel like im drowning with most all my time being spent at work. It makes me feel crazy especially to people who are not ATCs

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u/bigtippin — 1 day ago

How do I effectively utilize the athletic trainer? (Athlete)

I’m heading into college as a Freshman volleyball player.

This is the first time I’ve been on a team that has an actual athletic trainer and I’m nervous.

if I’m not injured and have no lingering pains/injuries how do I use the athletic trainer effectively before/after practice and games?

Thanks

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u/Juice-cup — 2 days ago

Concussion clearance

Hi all,

I have a high school athlete that sustained a concussion. Once they were symptom free for 24 hours I started them on 6-step RTP. However this athlete went to an urgent care and got physician clearance. In MI the athlete can only be cleared unconditionally so typically would complete RTP first. What do I do in this situation when I haven’t provided full clearance myself?

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u/Additional-Walrus354 — 2 days ago

AT Duties

Hi all, I work in the secondary setting as a per diem. I’ve been doing a long term agreement with a school that wants to hire me once their full time retires. However, I’ve been noticing now as a per diem they are trying to slip in more and more weird responsibilities and I’m spotting quite a few red flags (coaches warning me about disorganization, leadership problems, etc) . I doubt the full time does them.

They want me to be in charge of washing all of the uniforms. Today they had me wash all of the soccer uniforms while also doing treatment and rehab for the football team. This is on top of all of the coaches just leaving Gatorade filled coolers overnight for me to clean up, expecting every single water bottle and nozzle to be hand scrubbed, and expected me to organize and clean the full times supply closet and whirlpool. I was also told that their athletic nurse may not be going all the registrations and clearances and that they may have the athletic trainer (me) handle all of them for a 400-600 athletic program.

This is my 2nd year, my first year as a certified was at a really problematic school and I left for personal reasons. I’m just afraid I’m jumping from one bad situation to the next. The laundry part was the most jarring to me, as I have never had any preceptors or colleagues be responsible for the kids uniforms, especially at the secondary setting. We are medical professionals, and I’d never imagine another medical professional doing someone else’s laundry and scrubbing floors. Is this crazy or is it just me?

EDIT: I have no issues with cleaning the coolers and jugs, it’s the absolute state that the full time ATC leaves them in that drives me crazy. He knows I come in when he’s not there, and he left standing water in the whirlpool the entire summer and let mold fester in most of the coolers and jugs.

Football has a bad habit of leaving Gatorade filled jugs overnight for me to clean up instead of dumping them. I’m not there every day and when I’m not, the full time doesn’t clean them so they get left for literal days until I come back and have to scrub sugar sludge off of them.

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u/Horror_Dependent_943 — 3 days ago

On Site handling

Athletic trainers are the ones who handle on site injured during sport competitions and stuff and I wanted to ask do you guys have like your own “model” on how to handle these situations? For example, lay them down, grab ice, and wait for the ambulance to arrive if needed? Or let’s say if someone hurts their shoulder do you start doing shoulder special tests or orthopedic special tests to see what they injured?

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u/JuanSamu — 2 days ago

Wetbulb

My school is trying to add something to cover wet-bulb and lighting; we are looking at Perry Weather, but it may be a little outside our budget. The reason we are looking into getting one is so that fine arts and athletics can share and there won't be a problem when I try to tell everyone that wetbulb is up and no one can be outside. Any suggestions?

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u/Sea-Replacement8559 — 3 days ago

ATC- MD Agreement Liability Insurance for MD

Good morning all,

For those of you who might have your independent practice, or treat independently on the side, does your MD have any additional coverage to be your supervising physician?
My current supervising physician is thinking about cancelling our agreement because he is worried about his own liability insurance.
Do you know of any resources for this?

As always,
Thank you all in advance! You are all are awesome!

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u/Repulsive_Report_597 — 3 days ago

ATCAS Help

Hi everyone! I know that these kinds of questions are supposed to go on the weekly megathread; it just hasn't been posted yet this week. If anyone would be able to help me that would be so appreciated :)

  1. Where am I supposed to put work experience in my application? Most of my undergraduate experiences are through work, but there are only sections for Research, Trainings, and Volunteering. I was hoping for some place to input my TA positions as well as other on-campus jobs.

  2. I realize that I should probably know the answer to this, but how long is the personal statement supposed to be? The submission area for the statement is just a drag-and-drop for files, and I can't find any guidelines.

Thanks in advance! I'm really excited to become an athletic trainer :)

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u/Sad-Sasquatch — 3 days ago

Hearing aids staying put

Hi. Looking for advice and/or suggestions. I have a high school football athlete that just got hearing aids this past week. He says that they will not stay in his ears when he starts sweating, which, as an O-lineman, is a lot. We have been trying different things trying to get them to stay, but so far no luck. This is the first time that I have ever had this situation, so it’s all trial and error. I’m hoping someone here has some experience with this, but I’m also open to any brainstorming suggestions.
Thanks in advance!

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u/Sumarr — 6 days ago

research topics info help

Hi! I’m doing a senior exhibition project and I can’t find any info on this topic on google so a little insight would be amazing!!!

Topic: Should athletic trainers be required to obtain a doctorate of physical therapy to work in collegiate levels and professional levels in sports.

If anyone could provide insight or opinions on both viewpoints. Any medical persons or athletic trainers, athletes, anyone who could provide information on both sides of the argument please do.

Specific question I would like answered if possible;

Is there benefits of having both credentials and if so what are they?

Is there really a connection between both degrees if so how do they tie together, if not what differentiates them?

What should happen to the salary if it was required? Would it go up, or stay the same?

Some higher division ncaa sports teams and professional teams do prefer athletic trainers to have both degrees but not required. Are there any differences from the ones that have both as opposed to the ones that do not?

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u/jellywelly26 — 5 days ago

Tape Slipping

Hi all, been having a real fun problem with tape slipping down - particularly knee tape jobs on rugby/football/soccer players. I've tried every combination possible (tuff skin with powerflex/zinc, adding coverlight/ultralight as an overlay, etc) and nothing seems to be working. If anyone has some tips and tricks that have worked for them it would be much appreciated :)

Thanks in advance!!

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u/lazyam0eba — 6 days ago
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i think i found a gap in the market

For most of my life I tried to be someone else. I'd find someone I admired, decide they were better than me, and copy them. That mindset pushed me into a business I never enjoyed and only started because I looked up to one specific guy. It failed. I felt completely lost.

Around that time I was obsessively tracking my sleep with a Whoop, trying to optimize it. I kept getting good recovery scores. And I was still exhausted, yawning through entire afternoons, dead by 2pm. That's when it clicked: the score doesn't do anything. It just confirms you slept well or badly. Cool. Now what? Knowing isn't fixing.

So I built the thing I actually wanted. It takes the data your wearable already collects sleep, recovery, heart rate, and turns it into a daily protocol instead of another number. It tells you what supplements to take based on your metrics, predicts your most productive hours and gives you the exact time window when you should do deep focus tasks and light focus tasks, it tells you how much caffeine you have in your system left based on your first coffee taken and notifies you when you should take the next caffeinated drink for maximum productivity, it even tells you when to nap so your energy lasts the whole day instead of crashing and much more...

It's on the App Store as RizeAI https://apps.apple.com/us/app/rizeai-maximize-your-energy/id6762402079. i built by myself, it's early stage right now, and I want honest feedback, what's confusing, what's missing, what you'd never use. Tear it apart.

u/PieKey1836 — 11 days ago

Obrien’s Test for SLAP lesions?

I’m studying for the BOC after being “retired” for 10 years. Reading through the position statements and was surprised to see that Obriens test not being recommended to dx a SLAP lesion gets a SOR:A. Based on my previous schooling, when I think of Obriens I think SLAP test. Should I assume that the current BOC exam will not associate these two?

u/colbymck — 10 days ago

HS senior prototyping an ankle rehab wearable. Looking for clinical feedback from PTs, ATs, or sports med

I am a high school senior working on a passive ankle rehab device I'm calling PAAD (Passive Assistive Ankle Device). It's adapted from Clemson's PAHD hamstring project out of the HuMBL Lab. Posting because I want honest feedback from people who actually treat lateral ankle sprains before I run peer testing on v1.3.

**What it is**

A wearable for athletes coming back from lateral ankle sprains (ATFL tears from inversion on cuts and jump landings). Elastic resistance tubing runs from a rigid insole plate up to a calf strap. Depending on where you clip the tubing, it passively loads the ankle through one of four movements: eversion, inversion, dorsiflexion, or plantarflexion. Goal is faster return to play. Secondary use is a warm-up for healthy players for injury prevention.

**Where I'm at**

v1.0 self-test failed in three ways (flat TheraBand produced no real resistance, calf strap migrated down under load, insole didn't fit the shoe). v1.1 rebuilt all three subsystems and I'm about to start peer testing with a few athletes.

**What I'd love feedback on**

  1. Is the phase progression clinically sound, especially saving inversion for last?
  2. Are the resistance levels reasonable for early return to play, or too light/too heavy?
  3. Any red flags with passively loading a healing ATFL, even at light resistance?
  4. Anything obvious missing from the protocol? (Proprioception work, ROM checks, objective criteria for advancing phases)

Happy to share build docs, photos of v1.1, and more info about this project. Not selling anything, not asking anyone to be liable for the advice, just trying to make v1.3 better than v1.0.

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u/RishiBest2Sweaty4You — 11 days ago

Career Path

Hey everyone! I am a rising MSAT 2 getting ready for a big immersive semester and the real world soon. I’ve seen many posts online about possible career paths for me to take.

Through many friends, family members, preceptors, current and past ATs, and people online I have heard that being an AT and trying to live a comfortable life is hard. I’ve done a bit of research on the opinions and life experience of others and everything I have come across comes down to a high amount of hours and work with a paycheck that doesn’t reflect a masters degree and the hours of school that we put in. I’m worried I won’t make enough money in the future.

Since I made up my mind on becoming an AT back in high school, I have always thought about being an AT for a top collegiate men’s lacrosse team. But from what I heard, being a AT for a college can be difficult with ridiculous hours and a small paycheck. I’ve also been told to go to a prep school or industrial because the pay is better. I’ve also been told to go to PT school or PA school if I want to make “real money”.

I’m not sure what to do, and if anyone can share their experiences or any advice that would be great!

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u/PsychologicalEssay28 — 12 days ago

A good news story about the preparation ATs do for sports.

Saw this posted by a colleague of mine. I always appreciate when news stations run stories on ATs and wanted to share.

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u/TheDirtyPilot — 11 days ago

Med kits

Recently switched high schools which means had to leave the med kit I was using at the school (they bought it) now at the new school and I’d like to buy one myself so I know it’ll be mine and I don’t have to worry about this again. My question is where is the cheapest/best place to buy them I have a specific one I’ve been using the last 5 years and was my favorite by far of any I’ve used. My issue is all the places I seem to find it you have to add it to a quote, and can’t just purchase it.

The one I had been using is the Cramer tuf-tek other kit recommendations are welcome as well

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u/Huckleberry514 — 13 days ago