r/charmed

We all know they got rid of Phoebes powers for 2 reasons.

1. Her Levitation power cost too much and their budget couldn't handle it

2. Her empathy power made Phoebe more powerful than her sisters and potentially too hard to use in the plot.

First thing is the writing missed an opportunity with Phoebe's empathy and power growth. Yes Phoebe had become more powerful than her sisters. But as we know they are all connected. Their powers bleed together. Their powers are bond by their sisterhood. They are a collective. So They should have had it so as Phoebe got more powerful it would have speed to Piper and paige too. Now of course the spreading to the sisters would be delayed to give Phoebe her moment . Probably after starts deflecting fireballs the sisters powers would grow too.

When we went 10 years in the future Piper could freeze an entire block, sky and all with ease. Her freeze had a double click sound to it. In " once in a blue moon" Piper could blow things up without looking at it. She was able to freeze a demon mid shimmer. In season 7 she was even able to repel attacks by exploding the air in front of it . She also learned a telekinesis technique from her blast.

I think any of these advancements would have put her back as head witch and still be ok for budget since they did them all anyway.

In limbo Paige could orb things without calling for them, and she could orb non corporeal things. In "once in a blue moon " Paige was calling for things as if she was conjuring them herself. Her tk orbing was acting like regular telekiniesis. And we've seen her do telekiniesis while to orbing.

I think this would have been the perfect time to give Paige either conjuring or straight telekiniesis or both.

The problem was Phoebe was to strong. Well instead of ruining your character by weakening them, just elevate the others as well . The next big bads are Gideon ( an elder) , the avatars , zanku, and Billie and Christy aka the ultimate power. There's nothing wrong with leveling your characters up. Give them all limitations . Like Piper can't blast every demon, or Phoebe can read every demon, Paige already has mental blocks.

And if I'm being serious , I would like to see endgame Phoebe with psychic reflection and sonic flight like in the comics in the series. Level the other sisters up too if you must .

Second thing was Phoebes levitation price tag. And there so many ways around it. Have her start gliding side to side to avoid attacks. Like the old karate movies. Think Prue with her fight against Vincent the demon. More so movements and camera angles and takes. You could focus on her super strength. Have her kicking them to send them flying slot more. Down the line she could kick demons and have them explode like in hulkus poukus. And when ever she is in costume or with a stunt double she can levitate. Hulkus poukus was a perfect opportunity. Or as Jennie. There were options.

Anyway what powers or advancements would y'all give the sisters?

That scene, the whole thing, will never not break my heart. I cry every time.

Basically, I've been thinking about this for a bit, so like, what if prue didn't die but they still introduced paige? I'd assume they wouldn't make paige a charmed one but maybe they'd have her train to be a backup whiteligher? Or maybe just a backup witch just in case ones missing? What do yall think?

edit: i thought my question was clear, it wasnt "would paige be introduced if prue hadn't died" my question is "what if prue never died but paige was still introduced"

I think it would have been better received if it was a new concept trying to get off the ground or even something one of the girls thought of, not something that been established for years by the time it was introduced.

I like the vibe and setting of Magic School, but the fact it’s been there for years was terrible continuity to me. It makes Leo look incompetent. Grams and Patty couldn’t have taken the girls there when the warlock came for their powers? The sisters had helped so many young witches in peril, but it was never mentioned to the likes of Tyler?

Scenario 1: Gideon approaches newly turned Elder Leo to pitch his golden goose, as the other elders have basically written it off. Leo, actually caring about charges, agrees and they basically found it together.

Scenario 2: Gideon had established Magic School maybe a year or two before, but it’s struggling and he asks Leo for advice. Leo helps out, wanting a safe space for all magical children, gets the sisters on board and they all help Gideon completely revamp the place. (I based this off the theory that the Cleaners were created after the Shax disaster. In this case, all the bullshittery that’s happened in the past couple years inspired Gideon to form the place, but he’s decades—maybe even centuries old—and he has no idea how to connect with the youth of today, unlike Leo and the sisters.)

Scenario 3: After a rough ‘case’ involving a child witch, Paige angrily rants about the Elders/Whitelighters needing to do better with the children of the magic world and decides to do something about it. She goes to her estranged BIL not that he’s got some sway upstairs and he thinks it’s a great idea, leading them to plead their case to the other Elders. Gideon, who actually cares about children not named Wyatt and also senses an opening to study the object of his suspicions, advocates for their idea, leading the other Elders to grant permission for Magic School to be created. In this scenario, instead of Richard, Paige gets together with Gideon as they work together to build the school. That makes the betrayal all the more painful and is the reason Paige begins pulling away from the school in the next season—too many painful memories instead of her just getting bored of it.

What do you guys think?

I am excited because I have decided to sit down with season one and rewatch the entire series which I think I’ve only done once when I was younger and I’m sure there’s even episodes I have missed! ♥️ ✨

So I’m relistening to HOH and in episode one they talk about Shannen as Piper and Holly as Phobe. Drew asked if they had a Prue in mind/cast already and she says yes but won’t say who… do we know who that person was? I know when they swapped to Prue and Piper (respectivly) and they had an orginal Phobe and then it finally settled on Alyssa. Sorry if this has been asked/settled before.

TLDR:
Who was the orginally cast as Pure if not Shannen.

Superhero teams of 4 usually have the following: a tank, a healer, a controller and a damage person. Which of the charmed ones are which?

Heres my head cannon:

Tank= Phoebe. Because she is constantly the one used as bait. Her fighting / intuition power allows her to react fast, dodge attacks and often counter them. Once she becomes an empath she can literally become resistant to powers. Her Levitation makes her strong and agile. Perfect for distraction and fighting. And her permonitions literally shields them all from harm, even tho she feels it all.

Healer= Paige. Because even before she could heal, her nature was that of a whitelighter. Someone ment to guide, help and heal. She is the half pastifist sister that won't stop helping innocents , even when told to stop. She worked as a social worker to help people become their best selves.and she continues that as a whitelighter. She can sense when a charge is hurt and go to them or bring them to her. She even gains a orb shield to help her protect others.

Controller= Prue. Because she personality is controlling. Her telekiniesis is almost just a command of her will, animating a whole attic to clean itself. Controlling things she can't see. Her pride doesn't come from her damage power and many may think. It actually comes from the fact the her power is so versatile. She can control her body , strength , others, the world. Protect or attack. Her power of astral projection only enhances this. Being able to affect things from far away. Even her invention of the crystal cage is controlling the enemy, either containing them, repelling them or shocking them.

Damage person= Piper. Because before season 3 there was no damage person. This is why they charmed ones had to study the book of shadows and think outside the box to defeat an enemy. People actually really liked the early seasons for this reason. The sisters "go to attack" was freeze, kick and send flying . This proves Prue and Piper were controllers with no real damage. But I did love how Piper grew her power was a controller mindset focusing on precision.The sisters did this all the way til the end of season 3 when Cole brings it up. Piper then gains combustion making her the damage person. Even outside of her power Piper can brew up some of the most lethal potions(example long live the queen). And she can do it all by taste.

I don't know . What do you guys think ? Who would be what? And did you like the series after it became superhero'ish?

When Leo tells Piper and the rest that he is an Avatar, in the episode There's Something About Leo, their reactions after the initial shock are so unrealistic. Leo has been in their lives for so long, and he is nothing but good, honest, and loyal. His whole goal, forever, has been to care for all of them, love Piper, and love his sons. How the heck is this their reaction? And bringing Brody into something that important when Paige knew what happened to his parents was thoughtless. The more I go back through Charmed, the more I realize how horrible the writing is. They are so man-crazy that their characters become unbelievably stupid and impulsive.

How would you think the writers would introduce Paige after Prue's death to reconstitute the power of three? My best guess is that she would have been introduced as a cousin they didn't know.