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This is me writing philosophy after doing 200mg caffeine, 600mg DXM, 150ug LSD, 300mg DPH, 3.5 jenkems (type IV), 1/3 bottle of rotgut vodka, 9 mystery pills I found in the parking lot, 14 gasoline rags, some freon from the fridge, 15mg hydrocodone, and 2 joints of northern lights, cannabis India.
Why isn't this the subreddit photo?
If we're gonna use Hunter Biden we should at least use the best picture of him
Why does everyone keep asking me if I can score weed?
Only pros use teflon tape on the nitrous spigot
No wasting the precious hippy crack on leaks
I got an unsolicited package with unmarked, suspicious pills. What to do now?
He ODd because he only used meth for fat loss and not for stimfap
Best FDA-approved drugs of all time? I nominate: Desbutal, a combination of 5mg methamphetamine and 30mg pentobarbital. FDA speedball.
> ball in FDA speedball
Back when big pharma made good shit, the Food and Drug Administration stamped approval for a combo of stimulant and depressant. A delicate mix of the highest quality methamphetamine and boozy bubbly pentobarbital. If the standard 30mg of the pentobarbital was too light, there were versions with 60mg or 90mg.
Barbiturates may sound familiar? They're really euphoric but really easy to overdose on.
Marilyn Monroe, Jimi Hendrix, Brian Epstein of the Beatles, to name a few tragedies.
Barbiturates have been widely used in euthanasia, famously by the writer Arthur Koestler and his wife. A leader of the Voluntary Euthanasia Society, Koestler believed in the right to die with dignity.
According to this study, at very high doses 400mg pentobarbital ~ 200mg diazepam. That's from the Journal of Pharmacology and Experimental Therapeutics which I admit is a low quality source for this sub (which usually requires r/Goblin peer-review). But recreationally the classes can't be compared.
Pentobarbital is more intoxicating as unlike diazepam, it doesn't depend on endogenous GABA ultimately. It opens the GABA-A receptors for up to 9x longer, with cascading CNS effects. The higher the dose, the less endogenous GABA matters. For diazepam there's a ceiling limited by endogenous GABA. Barbiturates are far more euphoric than benzos, they affect duration vs frequency of GABA receptor opening. You would likely more of a "hit" from barbiturates, fast muscle relaxation, loss of coordination, sedative bliss, disinhibition... it's like a laundry list of effects recreational users desire.
If you miscalculate your dose, mis-time your re-dose, combine different barbiturates or add CNS depressants like alcohol, even 'moderately', you could be at the brink of death in a flash.
> birth of benzos
Benzos were created as a response because they're more profitable than barbiturates and also people are too flawed to use barbiturates safely. The margin for error is narrow. If r/bartards blacked out for days to find their stash "stolen", I don't want to imagine a barbiturate equivalent.
GHB is already banned for notoriety in clubs like Berghain because it has a comparably narrow margin of catastrophe. I was surprised to learn that in the Neuropsychopharmacology journal, pentobarbital was rated more euphoric and subjectively reinforcing than fucking GHB!
Pentobarbital makes them GABA-A receptors go brrrrrr. Valium (the original branded diazepam) is smooth as the increased frequency of channel opening eventually exhausts itself when GABA depletes. Compare that to the rush of how GABA-A receptors open for long periods on pentobarbital, sending signals of disinhibition throughout the body, speedily unlimited by GABA.
With a greatly reduced overdose risk, big pharma could move truckloads of the freshly patented Valium, which was the best selling medication in the USA in the 1970's. Generic diazepam only appeared in the mid 80's. In terms of withdrawal, benzos are better (thanks FDA!), as barbiturates can cause grand mal seizures in mere days. If we know that benzo withdrawal exceeds opioid hell, imagine the barbiturate state of withdrawal...
> speed in FDA speedball
Oh, I almost forgot the Desbutal product contained meth. Desoxyn, the purest FDA quality meth, is >3x-5x the potency of Adderall^, depending on how potency is measured.
Adderall was originally derived from a 1950's weight loss drug Obetrol (the one that gave housewives psychosis). Shuffle the the amphetamine salts around, remove methamphetamine, and voilá Adderall IR was born in the 90's for "ADD". And marketed to children. To protect Adderall from generics big pharma patented a new release mechanism, Adderall XR. When XR generics emerged, they were swallowed up. Big pharma hit the jackpot with Vyvanse. Not another release mechanism, but a new pro-dug patent to milk. Until generics came to market 3 years ago, Vyvanse could cost $5000 per year without insurance in the USA.
Adderall is three quarters d-amphetamine, one quarter l-amphetamine. Desoxyn is twice as potent as d-amphetamine. The remaining 1/4 l-amphetamine salt in Adderall only releases as little as a tenth of the dopamine of d-amphetamine. In terms of pure euphoria the d-amphetamine could approach ~>1.5-2x potency of Adderall in contexts of euphoria/IV recreation. Overall, Desoxyn is probably closer to five times as potent as Addy.
^(^Dextroamphetamine is superior to Adderall, in terms of cognition) ^(and) ^(euphoria. L-amphetamine intentionally hits norepinephrine so that dopamine doesn't drop too fast and overall duration is extended. It creates restlessness. D-amphetamine directly enhances working memory and focused decision-making. The flood of dopamine causes beautiful pyramidal neural synchrony: Massive waves of activity that close a loop in the cortex/striatum. This loop is conditioned to limit undistracted concentration on certain signal vs. noise. The result of closing a loop like this is a flash of new connections between synapses!)
> McAfee's MDPV munition motivation
McAfee whispers from the vape: build your own lab
let's go full John McAfee mode on patents, since this sub has more knowledgeable people than r/drugnerds + r/researchchemicals + especially r/medicine (but not r/salvia).
the loophole that led to Adderall's creation from an old "diet" tablet taken off the market needs to be appreciated. until 1962 a drug could be "grandfathered" and sold openly provided it didn't lead to immediate death. Zero need to prove effectiveness or justify specific claims.
uj/ Outjerked by the FDA. As usual.
Contrary to misconception, McAfee didn't manufacture anything illegal in Belize. His lab acquired legal MDPV from clandestine Chinese chemists, and then performed all kinds of alchemical magic to wash, purify, recrystallise, and transform the substance into pure potent potions and vapours.
MDPV has 5-10x the dopaminergic potency of the purest FDA meth. McAfee was (is?) up to something. On Bluelight he wrote some unhinged stuff, but here's some sound harm reduction advice from the man himself:
>Do not eyeball this substance. If you do, you will end up in a hell that you cannot imagine. A fraction of a milligram is the difference between pure bliss and total psychosis.
What the hell happened to meth
So a lot of people I know and around do or did speed. That is until lt was replaced with whatever this other shit is. Everybody is fat or at least not skrawny or out stealing shit to support their habit. It's atrocious. Just a year or two ago one day with meth would yield a ten pound water weight loss if not more now I use it if I feel like taking a nap. I don't like this world.