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(The boys) How I would have liked the final fight to go

I'm a bad and stupid writer but here's an outline of what I think would have been cool

Homelander goes scorched earth, starts destroying stuff, flying at supersonic speed, no one can catch him

Butcher, Ryan, and Soldier Boy set aside their differences and decide to team up to defeat him

They lure him into a trap, but he's too fast for Soldier Boy to get a hold of him and only Ryan can grab him

Ryan can't take him on his own and Homelander greviously injures Ryan taking him out the fight

Butcher grabs Homelander with his tentacles, subduing him temporarily, allowing Soldier Boy to jump on to him

Soldier Boy blasts him, the world is saved

No Kimiko getting the blast and insane durability somehow

High budget sequence, takes place over multiple city blocks

Homelander gets to use his superspeed

We can modify how it goes, who dies, perhaps Soldier Boy and/or Butcher are killed by Homelander flying to space before he gets blasted

Please tell me what you think

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u/SumilatSumilat — 1 day ago

Basic idea for fixing The Boys Season 5 (spoilers!)

Okay, so the reception of the final season has been… mixed, so I thought I’d take a shot at trying to address some of the issues left over from the final season and hopefully give the show a more fulfilling ending:

  1. Homelander’s fall from grace starts out completely differently. After acquiring the V-1 in either the first or second episode of the season, Homelander starts fully embracing the idea that he is a wrathful god, inducting Oh-Father into the Seveb to serve as his prophet as he proceeds to rampage across America and take out any potential threat - the Pentagon, international communications, and yes, even destroying Annie’s hometown like he promised. However, it becomes clear that while many Americans follow and worship Homelander, most do so out of fear and not belief that he is a true god, which enrages the narcissistic supervillain enough that he decides he’s just going to straight-up conquer America by overthrowing the government and becoming its immortal, dictatorial deity… before moving on to the rest of the world.

  2. Rather than being placed back into stasis, Soldier Boy ends up being killed thanks to separate encounters with both Homelander and the Boys (MM especially), with his corpse and DNA being salvaged to create a new virus - one that functions similarly to the Godolkin Virus, but merely purges Compound V from a Supe’s cells instead of killing them, with Hughie and Annie leading this initiative to create a third option even as Butcher goes on a solo genocide route.

  3. After losing control of Homelander and realising that all of her plans are crumbling apart thanks to her underestimating both the extent of Homelander’s narcissism and how emotions can compromise rational judgment, Sage finds herself working with the Boys to create the new virus, hoping to use it on Homelander and then come up with a new plan to seize power once he’s powerless and out of the picture. However, Sage’s arrogance proves to be her downfall as the Boys - not trusting her to not betray them - expose her to the virus at a higher than recommended dose, not only erasing her super-intelligence but leaving her intellectually handicapped (so she actually gets some proper karma for her crimes).

  4. While the Boys go for their final confrontation with Homelander, the Deep and Oh-Father at the White House, the Gen V cast are tasked with taking down the army of psychics and other Supes who’ve flocked to Homelander’s cause. This battle ends with the group being forced to use one of the few samples of the anti-Compound V to depower their foes (who are promptly swarmed by an angry mob) at the cost of sacrificing their own superpowers and dreams of becoming heroes, though Marie at least is content with this (and Jordan resolves to find a way to handle their gender fluidity now that they can’t shapeshift into male or female forms anymore).

  5. Kimiko uses the anti-Compound V in a gas attack that strips herself, Butcher, Homelander and Ryan of their superpowers, leaving Annie as the only remaining Supe on the Boys’ side. Homelander still dies in the very satisfying way that he does in canon, but when Butcher goes to release the Godolkin virus and eradicate all Supes on the planet, Hughie reveals that he swapped the Godolkin virus with the anti-Compound V, ensuring that all Supes will be de-powered while allowing them to be spared from unjust execution thanks to Butcher’s crusade. Hughie is ultimately forced to kill Butcher, and with Homelander’s fall, Vought’s collapse in the midst of his rampage and the virus ensuring that all Compound V-enhanced people will soon lose their powers, Frederick Vought’s legacy has officially been destroyed.

  6. As part of the sequence at the end, we see MM remarry Monique, Kimiko travelling to France in memory of Frenchie, Stan Edgar tossed in prison as a result of Vought’s downfall and him and Ashley becoming the only living scapegoats for the company’s crimes, and a news broadcast revealing that all remaining super-terrorists and foreign Supes have either been arrested or disappeared from public view as the anti-Compound V spreads throughout the world and strips them of their powers. The series ends with Hughie and a now-powerless but content Annie working at Hughie’s new store, eagerly awaiting the arrival of their baby daughter, Robin. Annie also reveals that she’s considering applying to the police academy once she’s given birth and had proper leave - deciding to take Stillwell’s comments from the first season and still being committed to helping make a difference - and Hughie smiles as the two of them head down the street similar to him and Robin in the first episode, looking forward to a bright future that won’t be snatched away from them.

Thoughts on this? This is pretty rushed and pretty sappy for a series like The Boys, but I hope I at least managed to fix some of the issues associated with the final season and how it left a lot of loose ends.

u/Solitaire-06 — 1 day ago

Animal Farm: Redux

Now, I've seen a lot of hate going around for the most recent film version of Animal Farm. And while I can see some of those points, I thought the film was...okay for what it is. So, I sought to rectify this via some changes of my own.

  1. Use a poster similar to the one shown above.
  2. Keep Snowball male.
  3. Set the film firmly in 1950's England.
  4. Make the cast all British, Welsh, Scottish or Irish.
  5. Have the film start off seeming like an overly cute cartoon animal movie, but then slowly but surely descend into the horrors the book presented, complete with an R rating.
  6. Keep the book's ending intact, though suggest that there may be some hope for the future.
  7. Play Ice-Nine Kills' "The Nature of the Beast" over the credits.

So, whaddaya think?

u/BathroomUpbeat1074 — 2 days ago
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How would you fix Home on the Range?

While this movie's not quite as bad as something like Chicken Little, it's still a pretty bad movie and deserves the hate it gets. And that's very disappointing because it could've honestly been a good movie if the filmmakers didn't half ass it. The movie's plot's honestly not half bad on paper for a more lighthearted movie from Disney Animation, but it suffered from bad execution, what with the overly childish tone, terrible humor, annoying filler, flat characters, the lack of urgency, Buck being a hateable, selfish asshole, etc. It could've been a perfect middle ground between a fun comedic romp like The Emperor's New Groove and the more emotional stuff you'd expect from other animated Disney films. But instead, it feels like something Blue Sky or even Illumination would make. Okay, maybe not that bad, but it's close enough.

But what do you guys think? How would you go about with fixing this movie?

u/Lucky_Plan7855 — 3 days ago
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Kung Fu Panda 4

I know this movie has been out for a while but I just wanted to show how I thought the franchise should have ended. I used grok to throw together a plot and thought it was pretty decent. Don’t know if others have already done this (I’m sure they have) but just thought it would be cool. Sorry for the long text in advance.

Rewrite me the script for Kung Fu Panda 4 where Tai Lung is meant to be the actual dragon warrior. Keep the main villain but make her motivation come from the fact that she was dabbling in sorcery and was outcasted for it. Tai Lungs redemption arc will have him coming to terms with his anger and pride through meditation and training with Ogway. But you will not know that until later in the movie. The furious five will have much greater influence on the main story and interact with Tai Lung’s redemption. Also Tai Lung’s redemption story reaches its climax with him reconciling and loving his father figure Shifu again. Tai Lung is the one meant to defeat the villain and when takes back the Po’s staff, he takes a short moment to look at it before giving it back to Po. But to his surprise Po closes Tai Lung’s fingers around the staff, telling him that it is his.

Grok Script:

**Kung Fu Panda 4: The True Dragon Warrior** (Rewritten Script Outline & Key Scenes)

**Genre:** Animated Action-Comedy, Martial Arts, Redemption Drama
**Tone:** Faithful to the franchise’s humor, heart, and stunning action, but with deeper emotional stakes around legacy, forgiveness, and inner peace.

### Act 1: The Scroll and the Outcast

The film opens with a grand ceremony in the Valley of Peace. Po, now a seasoned Dragon Warrior and spiritual leader-in-training, is preparing to pass on the title. The Furious Five (Tigress, Monkey, Mantis, Viper, Crane) are prominently featured—more active and central than in the original. They train villagers, advise Po, and express concern about succession.

Master Shifu reveals (or reinterprets) the Dragon Scroll’s true meaning: it was always destined for one who overcomes their greatest flaws. A vision or ancient inscription hints at Tai Lung as the one who *could* have been, had he chosen humility.

Meanwhile, in a shadowy corner of Juniper City, **The Chameleon** (a small, cunning chameleon sorceress) is introduced. Her backstory is shown in flashbacks: as a young aspiring kung fu student, she was mocked for her size and dabbled in forbidden sorcery (shapeshifting and chi manipulation) to compensate. The kung fu community outcasted her as "unnatural" and dangerous. This fuels her rage—she seeks to prove sorcery superior by stealing the powers of every master, living and dead, and ruling as the ultimate force. She has already begun pulling spirits from the Spirit Realm.

Po encounters a returned **Tai Lung** (real, not a fake), who attacks aggressively at first, demanding the Dragon Warrior title and the Staff of Wisdom. A chaotic battle ensues involving the Furious Five. Tai Lung holds his own impressively but shows flickers of doubt. Po defeats him non-lethally, and Tai Lung is captured/restrained.

### Act 2: The Journey and Hidden Mentorship

Po, the Furious Five, and a reluctant Tai Lung (under watch) travel to Juniper City to confront the growing threat of the Chameleon, who is consolidating power by impersonating crime lords and stealing skills. The Furious Five get major moments:

- **Tigress** challenges Tai Lung directly, forcing him to confront his past brutality and shared history as Shifu’s students. Their fights evolve into tense but insightful sparring sessions.
- **Monkey and Mantis** provide comic relief and light-hearted prodding that chips away at Tai Lung’s pride.
- **Viper and Crane** offer more philosophical talks about balance and letting go.

Tai Lung is arrogant and angry throughout, clashing with everyone. Subtle hints appear of his redemption: he meditates alone at night (seemingly just to plot), shows rare moments of restraint, and has cryptic dreams/visions of Oogway. These are not fully explained yet—the audience (and characters) assume it’s guilt or manipulation. Oogway appears in visions or spirit form only to Tai Lung, guiding him privately in meditation and advanced chi techniques to temper his rage. Tai Lung resists at first but secretly trains with the tortoise’s wisdom.

The Chameleon impersonates various figures (including past villains or allies) to sow discord, targeting Tai Lung’s insecurities. She tries to recruit him, appealing to his outcast status: “They feared my sorcery as they feared your ambition.” Tai Lung is tempted but ultimately refuses, a key turning point influenced by the Five’s growing (grudging) respect.

Po struggles with leadership, relying heavily on the Five’s input. Zhen (the fox) can still appear as a clever ally/thief who helps navigate the city’s underworld.

### Act 3: Redemption, Climax, and Passing the Staff

The Chameleon opens a portal to the Spirit Realm, summoning masters’ chi and spirits (including echoes of Shen, Kai, etc.) to fuel her power. A massive battle erupts. The Furious Five shine in coordinated fights, protecting the city and buying time. Tai Lung fights fiercely alongside them, his style blending raw power with newfound precision from Oogway’s hidden lessons.

**Tai Lung’s Redemption Climax:** During the chaos, Tai Lung faces a breaking point—overwhelmed by anger and nearly losing control. A vision or direct intervention from Oogway’s spirit fully reveals itself: Tai Lung has been training with him in secret. He confronts his pride, accepts his past failures, and achieves inner peace through meditation mid-battle. This unlocks greater power and clarity.

The emotional peak comes when Tai Lung reaches Shifu. In a heartfelt, rain-soaked or ruined-temple scene, Tai Lung apologizes for his betrayal, acknowledges Shifu’s love and the pain he caused, and calls him “Father” again with genuine love and respect. Shifu, tearful, forgives him fully. The Furious Five witness this, solidifying their alliance and respect for Tai Lung’s growth.

**Final Battle:** The Chameleon, now massively powered up by stolen chi and shapeshifting between forms, overpowers the group. Tai Lung, as the true Dragon Warrior, steps up. Using his redeemed strength, Oogway’s teachings, and support from Po and the Five, he defeats her—perhaps by turning her own sorcery against her or channeling balanced chi to disrupt her stolen powers. He lands the decisive blow, proving mastery over both kung fu and inner demons.

After the victory, Tai Lung picks up Po’s Staff of Wisdom (which the Chameleon had seized or that Po had been carrying). He examines it solemnly for a moment—symbolizing his long-desired destiny—then offers it back to Po with respect.

**Po** smiles warmly, gently closes Tai Lung’s fingers around the staff:
**Po:** “You know what? It was always meant to be yours, man. The Dragon Warrior… that’s you.”

Tai Lung is stunned, then deeply moved. The Furious Five bow in acceptance. Shifu nods with pride. Oogway’s spirit appears briefly, smiling knowingly.

### Epilogue

Tai Lung returns to the Jade Palace as the new Dragon Warrior, training with renewed purpose alongside the Furious Five (who remain key mentors and team members). Po embraces his role as Spiritual Leader, traveling and inspiring others. A final comedic/training montage shows Tai Lung’s lighter side emerging. Tease future adventures with the full team.

**Key Themes:** True strength comes from humility and inner peace, not power alone. Redemption is possible through quiet growth and forgiveness. Sorcery vs. disciplined kung fu highlights balance over forbidden shortcuts.

This rewrite keeps the fun, action, and heart of the franchise while centering Tai Lung’s arc, elevating the Furious Five, deepening the Chameleon’s motivation, and delivering the requested emotional payoffs and staff moment. It would make for an epic, satisfying conclusion to Tai Lung’s story while honoring the series’ spirit.

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u/Longjumping-Owl6232 — 3 days ago

My Rewrite of the Boys Season 5, Eps 1-7

This is a long one.

Most of us have been unhappy with the Season so far. I've seen a lot of good ideas in the community about how it should have gone, so I wanted to put something together that reflects the season we wanted to see.

The biggest complaint is the pacing - we spent too much time searching for V1 and focusing on Soldier Boy, the Vought Rising Prequel, and on low-effort jokes about who Soldier Boy f\*cked in the past. We can still do that - it just needs to be much less.

The second biggest complaint is that nothing has really happened - Homelander got V1, killed the President, and killed Frenchie. But what about scorched earth? Where is him actually killing a protest full of people, or leveling a city?

And the third biggest complaint - what's going on with the humans? The world in the background? How are others reacting against Homelander? Have all the Starlighters in the world given up?

So here is my attempt to fix the pacing - using some of what I think has worked well so far in Season 5, along with some of the community's ideas. Where things fall apart is Ep 8, so I'd love input from the community how they see things ending up in Ep 8.

No AI was used in the writing of these plot summaries.

# Episodes:

# 5x01: (Pretty much the same)

* Hughie, Frenchie, and MM have been living in a freedom camp for the better part of a year, each losing hope in their own ways.
* Homelander attempts to draw out Starlight and Butcher using the deaths of Hughie, Frenchie, and MM.
* Butcher becomes aware of the plan – he warns Kimiko and Starlight, warning them both. Starlight fails to recruit A-Train at first.
* Butcher, Starlight, and Kimiko break into the Freedom Camp – they finally rescue Hughie, Frenchie, and MM. MM kills Love Sausage.
* A-Train prevents Homelander from killing the Boys – Homelander chases down and kills A-Train in exactly the same way.

# 5x02:

* Now with the Boys back together, Butcher shows them that he & Samir have finally perfected the Supe Virus – it’s ready for testing.
* Homelander, lacking for father figures, awakens Soldier Boy and manages to recruit him to hunt down Butcher for revenge.
* MM is saddened about the death of A-Train and helps get A-Train’s family members to safety at the Philly Safehouse (a safehouse of human Starlighters, protected by the characters of Gen V).
* Homelander finds another one of the Starlighter hubs (not Philly Safehouse) and kills every single person there on a rampage, looking for Starlight or Butcher.
* Soldier Boy finds and confronts Butcher and the Boys while on a mission – they give him the Supe Virus…but it doesn’t work.

# 5x03:

* The Boys are now aware that the Supe virus doesn’t work against Soldier Boy because he has V1. MM in particular becomes sullen and angry, losing whatever remained of his hope.
* Homelander learns that V1 will protect him from the Supe Virus and dedicates all Vought resources towards finding that.
* Sage uses Homelander’s relationship with Clara to pit Soldier Boy and Homelander against one another – she manipulates Soldier Boy into thinking that HE could become the leader of the Seven – as long as he helps to ensure that Homelander never finds the V1. Soldier Boy goes rogue, leaving Homelander.
* The Boys go to confront Stan Edgar in his bunker, learning that Stan is bunking with both Zoe and Maverick (Translucent’s son). The Boys learn about Fort Harmony and Bombsight (leads for V1) and Project Odessa (concerning Marie).
* Homelander sends Deep, Noir II, Cindy, and Dogknott to recover Stan Edgar – they successfully do so. Hughie reckons with killing Translucent while he is forced to fight and finally kill Maverick himself.  Starlight gets a certified W by killing Cindy to protect Hughie.
* Zoe, who wants to kill Butcher for having killed her mother, follows Frenchie & Kimiko to the Boys hideout, learns that Samir is still alive, and turns him against Butcher – the two run off and escape.
* Butcher finds Ryan meeting with Zoe and tries to recruit Ryan, officially telling Ryan about Homelander raping Becca. Ryan, unsure how to process this information, flies off again to ponder next steps.

# 5x04:

* Homelander learns about Fort Harmony, Bombsight, and Project Odessa from Stan Edgar, becoming worried about Marie Moreau. Homelander finally tracks down Marie & the Gen V cast at the Philly Safehouse, and he sends members of Teenage Kix to handle things with Dogknott & Firecracker.
* Soldier Boy wants to find and destroy V1; he confronts the Legend about where to find Bombsight and is told to ask Mister Marathon and Malchemical in LA. Soldier Boy learns from Marathon & Malchemical about Golden Geisha – she still lives in a retirement home in LA.
* Soldier Boy, Marathon, and Malchemical kidnap Golden Geisha to draw Bombsight out. Soldier Boy depowers Bombsight and takes the V1 from him. Soldier Boy initially wants to destroy the V1, but then realizes he could also use it to find someone to spend life with him, so he hides it.
* The Boys struggle to find decent leads on Bombsight or V1, so they instead focus on a plan to recruit Marie Moreau.  At the Philly safehouse, Hughie and Starlight both reunite with their mothers, and MM reunites with his family and A-Train’s family.
* The Boys check in with Marie and the Gen V characters – they get the full briefing of Thomas Godolkin and Gen V S2. However, Marie refuses to go against Homelander and insists she’s more comfortable helping Starlighters get to safety.
* The Boys thwart a Supe attack at the Philly Safehouse. The Boys handle Teenage Kix, with Butcher killing Jetstream and Kimiko killing Sheline; MM spares Countess Crow and lets her leave.
* Starlight has a rematch and a final one-on-one conversation with Firecracker. Firecracker wins, fatally wounding Starlight and killing Starlight’s mom. Marie uses her powers to kill Dogknott; Firecracker becomes terrified of Marie and flees. Marie uses her healing powers to save Starlight.
* The Boys (MM) become convinced they can use Marie to either hold Homelander in place or fully pop his brain. Marie is terrified to go up against Homelander, but changes her mind and agrees to do so. The Boys think they should test Marie’s powers against Soldier Boy first.
* When Homelander is at his most upset, Ryan finally confronts him with the information from last episode, about Becca’s rape. Homelander denies it, but insists he doesn’t need Ryan because he’ll be immortal soon. The two fight, with Homelander beating Ryan and leaving him alive.
* Thousands of folks attend a Vought Shareholder meeting. When the footage of flight 37 is leaked to the public (not by our Boys, but by a similar group of disgruntled Starlighters), some of the crowd become scared and try to flee.
* Homelander impulsively kills everybody in the stadium, to prevent this from leaking to anybody outside (though people are still livestreaming). This finally destroys Homelander’s reputation and gets a portion of his own fans to become scared of him and turn against him.

# 5x05:

* After Ryan’s failed fight with Homelander, Butcher finds him alive and brings him to the Boys hideout. He officially recruits Ryan to the Boys, and starts to bond with him over Butcher’s dog Terror.
* Butcher wants Ryan to help kill Homelander (and Soldier Boy), but Ryan needs to heal up; he is too powerful, so Marie isn’t able to heal him. MM and Hughie advise Ryan to sit this one out, which makes Ryan angry. MM tells Ryan about his personal vendetta with Soldier Boy this ep.
* Homelander faces backlash for his actions at the Shareholder meeting and has Firecracker use her news network to spin the story, blaming AI and Starlighters. Homelander becomes upset upon learning that he’s losing supporters online – some are even becoming Starlighters.
* Homelander also has Ashley & the President deal with the pushback of Flight 37 & the Shareholder Massacre. When the President attempts to push back and insist that he’ll use the might of the Pentagon and Congress to go against Homelander, Homelander kills him.
* The Boys track down the Legend and learn that he helped Soldier Boy get to Mister Marathon and Malchemical. They learn from the Legend about Soldier Boy’s backstory at Fort Harmony – helps set up Vought Rising.
* The Boys create a plan to draw Soldier Boy out – they intend to lead him to Fort Harmony and ambush him with Ryan, Marie, Jordan, and Cate (Cate has to be convinced to go up against her childhood crush).
* The Boys learn that Marie can’t pop Soldier Boy, but she can hold him in place using his blood, preventing him from activating his Power Blast. Cate questions Soldier Boy, learning that he hid the V1 for himself to give to a potential lover. While Soldier Boy is held in place, MM finally confronts him for his grandfather’s death.
* Ryan disobeys the groups' orders and flies to Fort Harmony anyways, sensing they could need help. Ryan confronts his grandfather for having tried to kill him in S3. After learning that Marie can’t kill Soldier Boy, Ryan offers to do so for MM. Marie continues to hold Soldier Boy in place, while Ryan lasers him in half.
* Homelander learns about Soldier Boy’s movements. He kills Marathon and Malchemical, and learns from the Legend that Soldier Boy obtained V1 and kept it for himself in a hideout. Homelander visits Soldier Boy’s hideout and finds the V1 for himself. He arrives just before the Boys do – they witness him inject himself and escape as he’s convulsing on the ground.

# 5x06:

* After Fort Harmony, Frenchie gets an idea - the Boys collect the equipment and enriched uranium necessary to recreate Soldier’s Boy Power Blast that the Russians gave him – Frenchie decides to start looking into this solution. The new plan is to use Marie to hold Homelander and then use Kimiko to depower him.
* Sage finally abandons the Seven and defects to the Boys, deciding to help them take down Homelander. She and Frenchie work together on the math for the correct dosage of radiation to give Kimiko. They execute the process – Sister Sage insists it’s successful, but they’ll want to test it first to ensure it works.
* The Boys, Ryan, and the Gen V characters return to the Philly Safehouse, where they hope to give Kimiko enough time to recover. Frenchie tells Kimiko that he officially wants to settle down with her and have children. They share a dance to “Dream a Little Dream of Me.” Meanwhile, Hughie and Starlight bond with Ryan, who reacts to having killed Soldier Boy.
* Homelander now has the V1 and is at an all-time powerful. However, he mourns the death of Soldier Boy and is angered to learn that Ryan is now helping Butcher and the Boys. Homelander now no longer has need for Stan Edgar and finally kills him; Stan Edgar dies not knowing if Zoe is safe or not.
* Ashley, now serving as President of the United States, tries to see what resources the military have at their disposal to deal with Homelander. She learns that the military has developed several potential solutions, but that most of them proved impervious against Homelander during testing.
* Firecracker experiences a crisis of faith when Homelander recruits her and Oh-Father to convince the public he is God. Firecracker and her news channel works together with Samaritan’s Embrace to prepare a televised ceremony. Firecracker abandons her faith and decides to fully commit to helping Homelander and Oh-Father.
* While the Boys bring Kimiko and Marie to Samaritan’s Embrace, Ryan is told to stay at the hideout with Terror. Ryan instead goes out and reconnects with Zoe, meeting her father Samir. Ryan updates Zoe on everything that’s gone on, expresses his doubts, and gets advice from her.
* Meanwhile, Frenchie is told to bring Sage into Vought Tower – they will collect and destroy all remaining samples of Compound V in the labs. At Vought Tower, after successfully destroying all the V, they are caught by Deep and Noir II. Noir II brings Frenchie and Sage to speak to Homelander.
* The Boys bring Kimiko to Samaritan’s Embrace as the ceremony is being prepped. Kimiko successfully uses her new Power Blast to depower Oh-Father, but she passes out for a bit afterwards. Starlight has a rematch with Firecracker – thanks to Hughie distracting Firecracker, Starlight is able to kill her, taking revenge for the death of her mother earlier in the season.
* Homelander returns to Vought, thanking Deep and Noir II for their success. He interrogates Sage, learning that the Boys’ hideout is in Erie Pennsylvania and that Kimiko has Soldier Boy’s Power Blast. Homelander confronts Frenchie. After Frenchie insists that Homelander has never danced a day in his life, Homelander punches him in the gut, killing him.
* Homelander takes Frenchie’s corpse to the Boys’ hideout in Erie. He finds Butcher’s dog Terror, who attempts to hump and bite Homelander. Homelander ends up stepping on Terror, killing him. After placing Frenchie’s corpse on the doorstep, Homelander destroys the hideout and the Supe Virus (what’s left of it), ensuring the Boys can’t use it or any of the equipment inside against him.

# 5x07:

* Kimiko and the Boys mourn the loss of Frenchie and Terror. Butcher in particular seems way too far gone now - even though they now will use Marie and Kimiko against Homelander, he still wants to release the Supe Virus.
* Homelander learns from the news that a coalition of Starlighters from the Philly Safehouse have been caught attempting to smuggle people out of the nearby Freedom Camp. It was a massive overtaking, but now the entire city of Philadelphia has put up anti-Homelander posters – they’re coming for him.
* Homelander meets with President Ashley, getting more details of the protest and giving her orders on dealing with it – he tells her to send Supes in to kill the Civilians. Ashely, having learned that the military can’t kill Homelander, finally grows a backbone – she decides to try and read Homelander’s mind. However, she’s not strong enough, and Homelander can sense this – he kills her.
* Homelander publicly assumes the presidency, in addition to finally announcing to the public that he is God (though he decides he doesn’t need Samaritan’s Embrace in order to accomplish this). When Secret Service members try to run, Homelander lasers them on live television.
* Homelander travels to Philly himself; for fun, he levels buildings, entirely devastating the population. Afterwards, he gets back on the news at the White House – he tells people that, as long as they are loyal, they have nothing to fear. This is how he’ll be handling with dissent in his new regime.
* The Boys and Ryan finally go to the White House to confront Homelander and the Supes still supporting him. Starlight finally kills the Deep, taking revenge for her sexual assault. The Boys team up to kill Noir II, while Ryan handles a bunch of miscellaneous supes, ensuring that Kimiko & Marie remain protected on the way to Homelander.
* Marie uses her blood-bending to hold Homelander in place. Kimiko depowers Homelander. Butcher finally confronts the depowered Homelander, taking his time with the torture. He does his scene from the comics – opening up Homelander’s brain and squashing the chunk of Homelander’s memories of the night with Becca.
* To cap Homelander’s life off, Butcher steps aside to let an emotional Ryan finally confront and kill his own father. Ryan refuses to do so – showcasing his humanity and decision to stop fighting, now that they’ve won. Instead, Butcher rips Homelander in half, finally killing him.

# 5x08: (My lazy attempt)

* Butcher reveals he has one remaining vial of the Supe Virus, and intends to release it.
* Hughie, Starlight, and the Boys team up together to depower Butcher and take the Supe virus from him.
* Butcher tries to kill the Boys – Ryan, although he made the decision not to kill Homelander – kills Butcher to protect the Boys. Or maybe it's more fitting for Hughie to kill Butcher, I just don't know how he'd do it.
* The new President of the US announces a stabilization effort – abolishing the camps, and ensuring Vought is held accountable. Thanks to Frenchie, all remaining Compound V is destroyed.
* Dealing with the fallout of the destruction of Philly, finalizing storylines with Hughie’s mom, Starlight’s mom, and MM’s family.
* Hughie, Starlight, Kimiko, and MM work as part of a government effort to rehabilitate Supes???
* The main characters bid goodbye to the Gen V characters – going forward (Season 3 gets written in my world), the Gen V storyline will be about ensuring rogue supes get rounded up and handled – and anyone looking to fill the Homelander power vacuum.

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u/heisenburnett — 4 days ago
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Update on the "Narrative Physics" debate: Bulut just tried to mathematically measure Tarantino vs. Carver, and the results are wild.

Been following the discussions here about Levent Bulut's Objective Projection theory, especially the recent criticism that his formulas (like Narrative Entropy) are just subjective metaphors dressed up as math. Looks like he actually took that critique to heart.

He just published an "open notebook" with pilot data where he did a hard, deterministic count of the variables in the opening diner scene of Reservoir Dogs and the opening block of Carver's Cathedral.

The funny thing is, the data totally backfired against the usual assumptions. Carver's "minimalist" scene actually scored way higher on the entropy (cognitive load) scale than Tarantino's 8-person dialogue chaos. Bulut openly admitted the data contradicted his own intuition, published the raw numbers anyway, and refused to alter the formula to fit the expectation. He’s now actively looking for independent raters to double-check his counting protocol to test for inter-rater reliability.

Honestly, it’s refreshing to see someone in literary theory let the data speak even when it challenges the original hypothesis. Makes you think—does a dense internal monologue actually require more mental processing than a fast-paced multi-character dialogue scene?
If anyone wants to check his math or volunteer to score the scenes, the raw data is on his site:

https://leventbulut.com/open-notebook-narrative-entropy-sn-operationalization-pilot-data/

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u/Impossible-Bed7058 — 3 days ago
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My Phase 1 of the MonsterVerse

Kong: Kingdom Fall would basically be a film adaptation of the Kingdom Kong comic

u/TheFlashyMastodon21 — 5 days ago

Mortal Kombat (Reboot)

Aquí mi propia versión (En proceso) del Reboot de MK

En lugar de llegar en 2021, la primera película se estrenaría en 2015, justo en la época en la que MK había vuelto a su prime,

Director:

Kevin Tancharoen

Productor:

James Wan

Guionistas:

Eric Heisserer y Derek Kolstad

Consultores Creativos / Lore:

Ed Boon, John Tobias y John Vogle

Acción y Coreografía:

Gareth Warren

Director de Fotografía:

Larry Fong

Musica:

Tyler Bates

Consultor visual:

Simon McQuoid

Cast:

Mortal Kombat (2015):

- Scorpion / Hiroyuki Sanada o Ian Anthony Dale

- Sub Zero (Bi-Han) / Joe Taslim

- Liu Kang / Ludi Lin

- Johnny Cage / Jensen Ackles

- Sonya Blade / Katheryn Winnick

- Kung Lao / Max Huang

- Jax Briggs / Michael Jai White

- Raiden / Ken Watanabe

- Shang Tsung / Chin Han

- Kano / Karl Urban o Josh Lawson

- Goro / Angus Sampson

- Reptile / Ray Park

Mortal Kombat 2 (2018):

- Scorpion / Ian Anthony Dale o Hiroyuki Sanada

- Sub Zero (Kuai Liang) / Andrew Koji

- Liu Kang / Ludi Lin

- Johnny Cage / Jensen Ackles

- Sonya Blade / Katheryn Winnick

- Kung Lao / Max Huang

- Jax Briggs / Michael Jai White

- Kitana / Adeline Rudolph

- Jade / Ella Balinska

- Raiden / Ken Watanabe

- Shang Tsung / Chin Han

- Shao Kahn / Martyn Ford

- Quan Chi / Wes Bentley

- Kano / Karl Urban o Josh Lawson

- Kintaro / Clancy Brown

- Baraka / CJ Bloomfield

- Noob Saibot / Joe Taslim

- Mileena / Natasha Liu Bordizzo

Mortal Kombat 3 (2021)

- Scorpion / Ian Anthony Dale o Hiroyuki Sanada

- Cyber Sub Zero (Kuai Liang) / Andrew Koji

- Liu Kang / Ludi Lin

- Johnny Cage / Jensen Ackles

- Sonya Blade / Katheryn Winnick

- Kung Lao / Max Huang

- Jax Briggs / Michael Jai White

- Kitana / Adeline Rudolph

- Jade / Ella Balinska

- Stryker / John Cena

- Kabal / Logan Marshall-Green

- Nightwolf / Zahn McClarnon o Booboo Stewart

- Smoke / Lewis Tan

- Raiden / Ken Watanabe

- Shang Tsung / Chin Han

- Shao Kahn / Martyn Ford

- Sindel / Ana Thu Nguyen

- Quan Chi / Wes Bentley

- Kano / Karl Urban o Josh Lawson

- Baraka / CJ Bloomfield

- Ermac / Lee Byung-hun

- Sheeva / Shohreh Aghdashloo

- Sektor / Brian Tee

- Cyrax / Edwin Hodge

- Noob Saibot / Joe Taslim

- Mileena / Natasha Liu Bordizzo

Mortal Kombat 4 (2024)

- Scorpion / Ian Anthony Dale o Hiroyuki Sanada

- Sub Zero (Kuai Liang) / Andrew Koji

- Liu Kang / Ludi Lin

- Johnny Cage / Jensen Ackles,

- Sonya Blade / Katheryn Winnick

- Kenshi / Keanu Reeves

- Stryker / John Cena

- Kitana / Adeline Rudolph

- Sindel / Ana Thu Nguyen

- Raiden / Ken Watanabe

- Fujin / Daniel Wu

- Shinnok / Jason Issacs

- Quan Chi / Wes Bentley

- Kung Lao / Max Huang (Retornado)

- Jax / Michael Jai White (Retornado)

- Jade / Ella Balinska (Retornada)

- Nightwolf / Zahn McClarnon (Retornado)

- Kabal / Logan Marshall-Green (Retornado)

- Smoke / Lewis Tan (Enenra)

- Mileena / Natasha Liu Bordizzo

- Tanya / Sofía Boutella

- Rain / Mena Massoud

- Ermac / Lee Byung-hun

- Kotal Kahn / ???

- D'vorah / ???

- Reptile / CGI

- Erron Black / Scott Adkins

- Ferra & Torr / CGI y captura de pantalla

La primera película adaptaría el primer juego de 1992 con elementos de MK de 2021. Principalmente el cast

La segunda adaptaria el segundo juego de 1993 pero empezaría a adaptar elementos del 9

La tercera adaptaría el tercer juego de 1995 pero agarraría más elementos del 9

Y la cuarta adaptaría elementos de MK 4 y del X

Aún no estoy seguro si adaptar la trilogía 3D

Y bueno, esto es lo que tengo hasta ahora, me gustaría oír sus sugerencias de como podría hacer la historia de estás 4 películas y que otros elementos adaptar

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u/Exotic_Ice_9021 — 6 days ago

The Perfect "It's Always Sunny" Series Finale Should Be Called "The Gang Dies For The Better"

This is the only acceptable ending for It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.

Season finale title card: "The Gang Dies For The Better"

The episode opens normally where the Gang is doing some typically deranged scheme involving the furnace at Paddy’s Pub. They all pass out from carbon monoxide poisoning. News footage is shown for Paddy's Pub monoxide poisoning and the bodies of the Gang getting removed.

Then we cut to six months later.

Paddy’s Pub is gone, as it was torn down. In its place stands a brand new children’s hospital. The neighborhood is cleaner, crime is down. People are happier.

Cricket, after hitting absolute rock bottom when he found out the Gang died, has a genuine spiritual awakening. He gets clean, goes back to seminary, and becomes religious again, actually helping people this time.

The Waitress, upon hearing that Paddy’s was demolished and replaced with a children’s hospital, visits out of morbid curiosity. While there she meets a kind, normal doctor. They fall in love, she gets married. She’s finally happy. No more abusive relationships, no more Gang ruining her life. The finale finally reveals the real name of the Waitress who tells it to the doctor showing just how much the Gang never cared about her and she never was that close to them.

It would be funny if in contrast to the upbeat whimsical music in most episodes, the background music in this episode is scary or sad.

And here’s the most important part:

There is no twist.

The Gang doesn’t wake up, it wasn’t a dream. They don’t come back as ghosts. They don’t get revived. They stay dead. The show ends on a montage of all the lives that are objectively better now that these five human disasters are no longer in the world.

The final shot shows the children’s hospital, kids playing outside, doctors smiling, Cricket at a genuine sermon and volunteering, the Waitress laughing with her new husband, and then the camera slowly pans over to a small plaque on the building that just reads:

“In Memory of Paddy’s Pub.”

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u/snowleopard556 — 7 days ago

Star Wars: New Jedi Order

Star Wars: New Jedi Order sería una serie live action que reinaginaria la saga de los Yuuzhan Vong que en lugar de salir como novelas saldrían como serie live action

Esta serie forma parte de un proyecto mio que lleva meses en proceso de Legends, por lo que está serie no está terminada, pero aquí tengo mis avances:

Temporada 1:

- Vector Prime (4 Episodios)

- Marea Oscura: Ofensiva (2 Episodios)

- Marea Oscura: Desastre (2 Episodios)

- Agente del Caos: La Prueba del Heroe (2 Episodios)

- Agente del Caos: Eclipse Jedi (2 Episodios)

Temporada 2:

- Punto de Equilibrio (3 Episodios)

- Recuperación (1 Episodio)

- Al filo de la Victoria: Conquista (2 Episodios)

- Al filo de la Victoria: Renacimiento (2 Episodios)

- Star By Star (4 Episodios)

Temporada 3:

- Viaje a la Oscuridad (2 Episodios)

- Líneas Enemigas: Sueño Rebelde (2 Episodios)

- Líneas Enemigas: Resistencia Rebelde (2 Episodios )

- Traidor (2 Episodios)

Temporada 4:

- Destiny's Way & Ylesia (4 Episodios)

- Hereje de la Fuerza: Remanente (2 Episodios)

- Hereje de la Fuerza: Reunión (2 Episodios)

- La Profecía Final (1 Episodio)

- La Fuerza Unificadora (3 Episodios)

Bueno esto es todo, si alguien que haya leído las novelas quisiera ayudarme soy todo oidos

Que les vaya bien, me despido

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u/Exotic_Ice_9021 — 6 days ago

Zombieland's opening is horribly inefficient. It distrusts the audience, undermines its punchlines, over-emphasizes Columbus's rules system, and improperly introduces him

I was rewatching Zombieland and the first 10 minutes really fell flat for me, and I realized it was because the gas station scene is just functionally repeating everything we've already been told by the cold open. The cold open gives us exposition about the world and introduces us to his rules system, and he says he survives by following said rules. The rules are illustrated by a bunch of random people dying for not following said rules, while Columbus provides commentary over it.

Then we get an opening credits sequence set to For Whom the Bell Tolls, and THEN, five minutes into the movie, we finally meet Columbus. Again, he tells us through voice-over that he's survived because he follows the rules, which we know already. Then he has a run-in with some zombies, and the rules are superimposed on the screen, and he just follows them. This scene is flat and tensionless, because we're learning absolutely nothing. It tells us nothing new about Columbus, and in fact is an inefficient character opening for him, because it's (probably) meant to make him feel vulnerable and endear him to us, but the cold open has introduced him to us as this narrator-sage ambassador for the human race.

The gas station scene should have opened the film, then some of the voice-over from the cold open (commentary about the rules) can stay, because it adds personality, and that way it achieves two things at once. Plus, it makes our introduction to the zombies directly relevant to our protagonist, instead of a bunch of random people we won't see again. When he's running from them in the gas station, we don't feel like he's in danger because he's already been established as this rigid rule-follower.

Making the gas station the first scene and introducing him to us via his direct adherence to these rules also better sets up his arc... his rules are designed to make him self-sufficient and not dependent on anyone, but his arc ultimately culminates in him breaking his most important rule to help someone he cares about

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u/LazyDirector6903 — 7 days ago

In the Phantom Menace, Shmi Skywalker should've ran a foster home for Tatooine's child slaves, with Anakin being one of the many foundlings

u/bitchnibba47 — 13 days ago
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Changing Naboo to Alderaan is possible but easier said than done.

I'm in the middle of rewriting The Phantom Menace, my goal for this Prequel trilogy rewrite is to use common critiques and rewrite ideas to show they are possible but also easier said than done. A great example of this is changing Naboo to Alderaan.

It's a great idea but I had to change and add a lot. Full disclosure, I'm fairly young and the EU is a blind spot for me. I don't if Alderaan was ever touched on between Thrawn Trilogy and the 1999 release date. However, George Lucas has made it vary clear that he was indifferent to the EU, He didn't hate, didn't love it. It was over there, it was it's own thing.

The first thing I had to change was Alderaan's location in the galaxy. Alderaan is no longer a Core world now it's in the Mid Rim, where Naboo is. This is done because Alderaan needs to be far enough from Tatooine to warrant Hyper-space but still close enough for Hyper-space to not be needed, just like Naboo was. This also works because on the current Star Wars Galaxy-Map there is a route from Scarif to Naboo and in-between those planets is Tatooine, So it lines up with Episode 4.

Padme is not the Queen, she is one of now just two handmaidens. The other Handmaiden, Keira Knightley's character, is now Breha Antilles. Padme is still royalty but I'll explain that later. The Queen is now an adult and as of now her name is Zara (or Zarah) Organa, that name is taken form an early draft of A New Hope, if you have a better name suggestion fill free to share.

In this rewrite I combine Captain Panaka and Ric Olié (and Typho for later in the trilogy) into one character so the pilot of the starship is Owen Lars. I don't love the belated media rewrites but I do like the idea that Owen isn't related to Anakin at all but just friends. He works with Padme through out the trilogy so he has enough of a connection to the couple for raising Luke to makes sense.

Maybe Beru is also there as a co-pilot. Any scene that would make since for Owen could be given to her, like when Panaka introduces the droids to the Queen, that could Beru since she never got to meet the droids in ANH so she wouldn't know their the same.

Bail Organa is in this rewrite, he is a Prince and the son of the Queen. He is a couple of years older than the Handmaidens, if they're 14 he's like 16 or 17. He's not on Alderaan and isn't present for much in the plot because he's visiting his father on Coruscant because in my rewrite-

The Supreme Chancellor, Valorum's character, is Zara's husband and the formal King of Alderaan. I thinking of changing his name to Kayos Organa which was the name of Leia's dad in the rough draft of ANH. This is because Count Dooku is also in this rewrite but I want to rename him Count Valorum because that name also comes from that same rough draft, the character was a Prince and a member of the Knights of Sith.

Since this idea was reused for Dooku anyway, I think if George came up with Dooku for TPM he probably would have named him Valorum. But again if you have a better name suggestion fill free to share.

Okay one last thing....

After Palpatine convinces Zara to call for a Vote of No Confidence in Kayos leadership, Padme the handmaiden grows frustrated with the corruption in the Senate and decides to return to Alderaan. Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan accompany her to investigate the return of the Sith. but this scene feels more like Rogue One when Jyn, Cassian, K-2SO, and a number of Rebels volunteer to take matters into their own hands.

On Alderaan, the team rescues security forces imprisoned in the Trade Federation's prison camps, although they were only able to successfully extract a handful. With them feeling betrayed by the Queen's absence, Padmé reveals herself as the Princess and persuades them to join in an alliance against the Trade Federation.

The scene where Jar Jar is promoted to general is replaced with a scene where Padme explains to Anakin why she was hidden from the public. One idea i have is for both her and Bail's safety, while yes her brother is next in line for the throne, if there are two potential heirs than enemies like the trade federation can use that to their sinister advantage. Another Idea I had was that Kayos isn't her biological father, but I'm not totally in love with that idea.

If you have better ideas, suggestions, and/or criticisms, fill free to share.

u/scoutrobin_3 — 12 days ago
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It is befuddling to see how the fans now demand The Force Unleashed games to be reintegrated into Canon (not knowing that it would erase Andor, but ok) when back in 2008-2010 people demanded it to be exorcised from the canon. The Star Wars Reddit and Youtube are trying so hard for years to sell everyone on these games that I was wondering if I was going insane. People still say they are somehow better than the Star Wars Jedi games. It's a very frequent sight. Even on r/StarWars, type "The Force Unleashed". It doesn't appear to be a minority, but a significant part of the fandom. It is placed on a pedestal it shouldn't be placed on. It makes me wonder if the Disney+ Obi-Wan Kenobi series will experience something similar in the future, too.

I remember watching the incredibly low-res videos of "Star Wars 2007" and being absolutely blown away by the technology shown there, alongside "Indiana Jones 2007", which later became Staff of Kings. Not only was it the first Star Wars game to be released on a next-generation console, but it also had the full support of George Lucas, with every piece of promotion revealing details oozing coolness. The groundbreaking premise of "Vader's secret apprentice" and the missing link between Episode 3 and 4 caused a great deal of speculation. The developers talking about ten different endings, promising a different story each time you play, excited everyone. There was no doubt that The Force Unleashed would be the greatest Star Wars game ever made.

Once the lid was opened, there were no "multiple endings" but two, which were determined by a single choice. It lacked the groundbreaking dynamicism shown in the pre-release footage. It was more or less a God of War with a Star Wars skin. Although the general audience liked it, it was quite contentious, with some fans considering it to be the bottom of the EU. Hayden Blackman (the project lead and writer, who was once a veteran writer who had written numerous well-regarded comics, was absolutely despised on par with how later Rian Johnson was treated. Around the time of the release, there was a series of incidents, like the LucasArts devs being laid off and some of the game studios like Free Radical going out of business, raising suspicions that production costs were embezzled. I remember some users calling it "Force Embezzled". Now, these games are looked upon fondly as the peak of Star Wars, so I guess time really does heal everything.

Despite TFU is beloved among the zoomers like "fuck Disney, this is real Star Wars", I find it funny how much TFU shares the same problems the Disney Star Wars later suffers from, like the fake-out deaths and the characters "somehow return" like TROS (there's even a precursor to flying Leia in space), the cringe kiss out of nowhere like Finn and Rose, the character just knowing where to go because of vision as a convenient plot device like TROS, a random turn to the light side like Reva, surfacial fan services, Bail Organa already being suspected like Kenobi, Mary Sue upending the existing and established continuity like Rey and Ahsoka, ruining Vader, and throwing in the OP Force superpowers like pulling starships from the air. Maybe the fans asking TFU to be part of Disney Canon have a point. It fits right in.

Playing today, TFU1's worst moments are when it tries to be serious. You can have a laughing track after each and every single one of its story beat. It's not even the garbage writing that makes this story such a parody of itself. It's that so many story choices are fundamentally so stupid you can't help but laugh. I have rarely seen a game that made this much of retcons and continuity errors, and every decision it makes is a bad one.

Galen Marek is the edgiest OP Gary Sue since Shadow the Hedgehog. This random guy suddenly appears out of nowhere into the existing canon and singlehandedly overturns the established narrative and lore (sounds familiar?). Despite being just Vader's apprentice, he overwhelms Vader himself and Palpatine to the point of feeling the fear of death. He grabs the TIE fighters like nothing, which makes the recent controversy about the Force users pulling back the starships with the Force seem quaint. He even singlehandedly crashes a Star Destroyer with the Force.

The Force Unleashed deals with the origins of the Rebel Alliance, and the way they go about it is by having Galen Marek doing some errands for the Organa family, which somehow inspires them to form the Rebel Alliance. The ending has Bail Organa say, "Are we ready to finish what he started? Then at last, the Rebel Alliance is born. Here, tonight". And the iconic symbol of Rebellion? Well, that's because Leia chose the symbol of the Marek family's crest as a symbol of hope, which made me laugh out loud replaying it.

Socioeconomic conditions and oppression giving birth to the Rebellion? Nah, it's because they were enamoured by Starkiller's hype and aura. Wow, why don't they recanonize The Force Unleashed? Are they stupid? Andor? That's just a fanfic. This is the real deal about the foundation of the Rebel Alliance! If The Force Unleashed came out today under Disney, the same fans who scream about recanonizing it would have stormed into the Lucasfilm building and demanded Kathleen Kennedy's head. Compared to Starkiller, Rey and Ahsoka are random extras.

If you pick the light side ending, it's vague exactly what turned Starkiller away from the dark side at the end. Well, did he even turn away from the dark side? When he was betrayed by Vader on the snow planet, he appeared to be fighting for vengeance, which is the dark side thing. When Starkiller defeats Vader and the Emperor, he hesitates for seconds to kill him because Kota says killing the Emperor makes him just as bad as him, which is one of the infamously shittest tropes that everyone hates. I don't even have to explain why this trope is terrible because I don't believe any player who thinks at this moment, "Oh, yeah, don't kill the Emperor".

If you were to buy the logic this game pushes upon the player, Starkiller doesn't really make a choice to not kill the Emperor; he only hesitates until the Emperor counterattacks, so Starkiller fights him again. It's not like Starkiller gets Jedi training and embraces the way of the Jedi, but Kota tells Juno corny musing about "he turned to light because of his love for you". So it was a spur-of-the-moment love and light for Juno? She wasn't even present there in person, WTF are you talking about, game??? Replaying the first game and seeing Leia make Galen Marek's crest into the iconic Rebel symbol made me lose it. When Rahm Kota said, "he did it for love", I laughed for a solid minute as the ending credits rolled up. That triggered my mindset to somewhere else.

By the time of The Force Unleashed 2, perhaps it was inevitable that the sequels would revive the dead characters and disregard the authenticity that they are in the universe. The light side ending is somehow shittier than the first game's. It might be the shittest ending in the entire franchise by a country mile. The Starkiller clone defeats Vader, roasts him with lightning, and shows mercy to let him live. Vader kneels and begs before Starkiller, the Rebels, who drag Vader away like a dog. Juno Eclipse is somehow alive and well, having just been thrown from a dozen stories high and crashed to the ground. Not a single bone is broken, as if she just took a nap and woke up completely fine. Does she have the Force power like Starkiller as well? Did someone clone her too and then replace her while she was falling? Did Palpatine cook up dozens of Juno Eclipses in her lab like Snoke? WTF is going on?

Despite A New Hope's premise clearly explaining that the Rebels won only one small victory against the Empire up to that point, and that they only obtained the Death Star plan from that victory, apparently, a handful of Rebel fighters already took over Kamino, one of the Empire's most strategically important bases, and captured DARTH VADER. Like, what am I supposed to even say to this shot?

However, the dark side endings of both games, if you judge them as a hype and aura standard that the game wants you to take, are awesome. In the first game's dark side ending, Juno dies and Galen is captured to be the Emperor's new apprentice. It continues to the DLCs where Galen is sent to Jabba's castle to obtain the Death Star plans, blowing away the guards, Tuskens, Boba Fett, and eventually Ben Kenobi. It then continues to Hoth, where Galen wreaks havoc in the Rebel base. Galen finds Luke Skywalker, roasts him with lightning, and turns him into the dark side out of anger. Both DLCs are vastly superior to the main game.

With The Force Unleashed 2, if the twist in the light side ending was that there was no twist, there's a real twist in the dark side one. Just as the Starkiller clone is about to strike Vader, Ezio appears, killing him. A new challenger shows up. In an instant, he annihilates the player and wipes out all the Rebels. Juno is dead. It turns out he is the perfected clone of Starkiller, whom Vader orders to annihilate all the Rebels in the galaxy.

It comes across as if the dark side ending was the true ending. For one, the choice is placed on the left side, not the right. The light side ending doesn't even conclude the story, leaving a forever cliffhanger that never ended, while the dark side ending is continued and completed with the DLC, massacre Ewoks, murdering both Han and Chewbacca, and having a final battle against Jedi Leia, annihilating the Rebellion as a whole on Endor.

So why are these dark side endings and DLCs good? Because they don't even pretend to have a shred of the depth and authenticity the main games tried to evoke and failed. The main games and light side endings try to posit themselves as authentic pieces of the Star Wars media, with the devs' insistence that these games are the "missing link" in the saga, which doesn't work because they already screw over the movie's continuity and integrity. DLCs don't and jump the shark so much that that alone is more entertaining. They acknowledge their non-canon status and take advantage of it to the fullest extent. It puts the player in the mindset as when you are reading cool edgy AU fanfictions. Take it as a power fantasy fan service fanfic written by 14-year-olds. Don't take it seriously. Don't think, but feel hype and aura.

No matter how you look at it, it seems The Force Unleashed main games should always have been exactly what these DLCs have promised: AU "What If" fanfics of Star Wars. A throwaway Star Wars fast food that should always be considered about as canon as Red Dead Redemption: Undead Nightmare, Yakuza: Dead Souls, Goldeneye: Rogue Agent, Assassin's Creed III: The Tyranny of King Washington, and Hyrule Warriors.

Remove the terrible light side endings and leave the dark side endings in the games, and just go ham with the concept. It is simply fun to play as the bad guys, blowing away the Rebels and the OT heroes, and never be redeemed as an evil wish fulfillment.

u/onex7805 — 10 days ago

[Lightyear] Zurg's true identity should've been the Rookie from the opening. Play him like an inverse of Syndrome where rather than resenting his Idol, he kept worshipping Buzz's worst traits till the obsession consumed him.

u/crimsonfukr457 — 14 days ago
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Just for fun, I've given arcs for each character for a hypothetical season 3.

Matt is in jail, and must survive with many from the AVTF in there with him. Forced to fight for his life, he embraces his Daredevil persona publicly, and gathers inmates loyal to him through fear or past defences. This comes to a head in a big fight where Agent North dies for Matt, Agent Powell is beaten and Matt takes over the prison from the inside, embracing his inner power.

Karen and Kirsten try all they can to free Matt and adjust to NYC after the chaos ends. After their previous interaction, Karen looks for dirt on Heather, and discovers she's gone mad and is following in the footsteps of Muse. Karen uses this as key evidence that Matt was wrongly imprisoned, and must take down Heather without killing her to stop Muse becoming a symbol that's further passed on.

Jessica and Luke try to find a new normal after Mayor Fisk, and they explore the aftermath of Luke being a hero for hire (in exchange for the protection of their daughter). As they investigate a new vigilante they learn it's a Daredevil copycat. Initially they think it's Bullseye, but it's revealed to be Danny Rand, the Iron Fist. Keeping his identity secret even from them, his impersonation turns out to be critical in freeing Matt as Kirsten argues that they can't prove what Matt did and didn't do. Luke recalls his history to Jessica as they rebuild their marriage, and suspects Mr. Charles is more than just a CIA spook.

BB Urich uses her new role to explore Fisk's past and work out where he's gone. Using her uncle Ben's research and finding information left behind by Daniel at his family home, she travels across the country to find Kingpin, joined by a revenge-fueled Angela Del Toro (whose amulet powers are growing by the day). They find Wilson Fisk in rural Tamaha Oklahoma, where he's living in isolation and exploring his past thanks to the powers of Maya Lopez aka Echo. Stopped from killing on Lakota land, both are guided by the tribe to give up on revenge and embrace peace. By the time they are allowed to leave, they find Fisk is gone.

Fisk himself explores what a life beyond New York looks like. Confronting those he's killed and those he's lost inside his mind with Maya (like Foggy, Vanessa and Wesley), he decides to check in on his city, afraid it will fall into the hands of someone who doesn't love the city as he does. He finds that Mr. Charles and his agents are taking down crime families one-by-one. Fisk takes it into his own hands to stop it, inadvertently becoming a vigilante himself.

The main villain is Mr. Charles, who utilises the chaos and power vacuum to slowly amass power and defeat the main five crime families (including the Tracksuit Mafia). Bullseye is his agent of chaos, and Charles tries to recruit Buck (successfully), Melvin Potter / Gladiator (successfully) and Muse (unsuccessfully) to his cause.

With New York's turf war growing by the day, a historic trial of Matt Murdock begins. Allies from across his life like Cherry, Swordsman, Josie and more create an alibi for Matt, claiming that with multiple Daredevils it's impossible to tell what he did or didn't do. With Heather's testimony also thrown out and pressure from thousands of people claiming they are all Daredevil, he's allowed to go free.

Getting back to business, Matt reunites with Luke and Danny, and together the heroes fight off Charles and his army from taking over Red Hook. The truth is revealed: Charles is actually an agent of The Hand, not the CIA, with his ninjas flooding into the city. It's an all-out battle for the city. Matt defeats Melvin, and during an overnight siege forces him to alter his suit into a new Daredevil one. His suit embraces his power of fear he discovered in prison, a weaponised, samurai-like suit. The stalemate is broken by Kingpin of all people, who faces off against and kills Buck. The war resumes, and Bullseye turns on Charles after discovering the truth, killing him and escaping.

In the aftermath, a power vacuum remains in New York. Aware that crime will never leave the city, Matt makes a choice - he will become the new Kingpin, keeping the underworld safe by controlling it from the shadows. Matt and Fisk cross paths leaving the scene, and both realise that they have become the other in a way. Fisk leaves the city knowing it's in the hands of someone who will fight for New York. Fisk retires to the snowy isolation of Alaska, his final shot reminiscent of a rabbit in a snowstorm.

BB and Angela successfully avoid losing themselves to revenge, and Angela leaves New York to discover her ancestry and power from the amulet. BB runs a story on Fisk using what she's gathered this season, humanising and exposing him in an attempt to stop him becoming a martyr. The cycle is broken.

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u/PucaFilms — 14 days ago

A better way for Harry to have found out how his father died in Spider Man 3

Instead of having the butler tell him, Harry could have stumbled into old recordings in one of the monitors as we see there are multiple monitors in the Goblins layer in Spider Man 3. The recordings would be from the perspective of the glider that had a mini camera capturing all the footage of the times it was used and it was connected to monitor via bluetooth or whatever gizmo. Harry would see the glider kill his father and the recording would have ended in a glitch. What do you guys think ? Or do you guys think the scene with the butler revealing the truth worked out fine for the film ?

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u/CR7UCL110 — 11 days ago