r/gurdjieff

So I was going through beezlebubs tales to grandson and since there are lot of things that cannot be verified is possibly rubbish. I tend to skim through it and then the book is dense in itself.
Well every now and then few things catches eye.
It’s when Gurdjieff expresses law of octaves and existence of hydrogen as part of it. He also explains some compound that are not yet discovered but exist. These are astanine and tenessine, which have now been discovered basically in 1950 and 2010 respectively. The question is how to did he knew ?
How do I make sense of all this. I went through Walter Russel’s periodic table but even though that is close, it doesn’t wake sense. Kinda shocked confused and shaken. Help

There is a subject all to frequently ignored. Is the Creator subject to time? If so, can he be the Creator, really? You simply cannot imagine the ramifications to this one simple question.

“All men are dead, except those who know.
All those who know are dead, except those who practice.
All those who practice are dead, except those who act.
All those who act are dead, except those who act with righteous intent.
All those who act with righteous intent are in grave danger!”
- Twelfth-century Egyptian Sufi.

A while ago, I began to investigate what happens deep inside when I receive criticism or compliments.

As I became increasingly aware of my feelings, I stumbled upon a surprising, shared underlying layer. What turned out to be the cause? With both, I feel a subtle tension rising. Although my outward behavior differs depending on the situation, the fundamental inner reaction is exactly the same: a mild form of distrust and inner turmoil.

Of course, I am generalizing a bit here, as there are countless nuances, but this is the coarser, fundamental layer.

That tension is mine. That is my part, that is what I need to look at, and that is what I do at that moment. I discover the deep-seated thoughts and beliefs that are at play within me at that very moment. Certain patterns are recognized. During my observation, however, I discovered another pattern within myself.

As soon as there is movement in the outside world, a defensive alertness immediately flashes up inside me. My thoughts immediately attempt to explain this tension by also analyzing the other person's motives.

I notice that I suspect a hidden charge behind the other person's words. My own insecurity or heightened alertness projects sometime a 'hidden agenda' onto the giver.

With criticism, I notice that I filter the situation as if the other person wants to 'put me in my place'. With compliments, I notice that a fear immediately arises that I am being flattered or influenced. The impurity I think I see in the outside world is often a reflection of my own struggle to receive expressions unconditionally.

By observing myself intensively for a while, my inner reactions and the stories my thoughts create afterward, everything became clear. What exactly is happening? What is reacting within me and what is being triggered?

I now see clearly how my own inner dynamics determine how I experience and color human interactions

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Practicing Gurdjieff's exercises together.

This thread is solely about doing Gurdjieff's exercises together.

The challenge is to write exclusively about the progress of the exercises, and primarily to reflect on and share your own experience. Sharing and being in conversation exclusively about the exercises.