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"Doctors get paid to teach students"

Having seen a few comments in posts here stating the above, I thought it would be good to shed light onto the facts on medical education and finances.

Medical schools draw their income from fees, governmental subsidies, research grants, donations and partnership agreements with industry or other organisations.
Trusts have contracts with medical schools and get a set amount of money per student they host from the medical school. In exchange they are bound to provide the teaching they sign up to.

What this entails is up to the relevant medical school module/year leads who set the curricular learning goals. The MLA has provided a certain standardisation framework, however there is still a considerable degree of variation amongst medical schools in its implementation.

Within every department that hosts medical students, there is one designated consultant who acts as lead for undergraduate teaching. They are responsible for creating the students' timetable and ensuring delivery of the sessions and supervising the students (doing inductions and signing off end of placement forms) on the basis of the agreement with the relevant module leads as well as contributing to assessment (writing MCQs and OSCE stations).
The amount they would get equates to 4hrs/week = app £10k/year. Within these 4hrs they are expected to deal with all matters relevant to medical education, which is impossible to achieve.
They are therefore heavily reliant on help from colleagues and trainees, who do it out of goodwill, with the sole reward being certificates of acknowledgement that they can use in appraisals and specialty applications.
Some departments hire clinical teaching fellows, who have a full paid job dedicated to teaching with a day per week or fortnight of clinical activity for their own development and to be able to justify maintaining their GMC registration.
The above two are the only ones in the department who get paid to teach.

Which leads us to the big question. Where does all the money medical schools get go?
The answer is we don't know in full. In 2024, Dr David Hutchinson (a paediatrics registrar) and Dr Jonathan De Oliveira (a GP Registrar) conducted a study* which found that between 2000 and 2023, the UK government allocated £1.7 billion to NHS trusts specifically for frontline doctor training, of which £400 million have gone completely unaccounted, with some trusts publishing no accounts on the allocation of these funds.

In short, 95% of doctors whom you come across in placement do not get paid to teach you and have to fit it in alongside their clinical duties out of goodwill.

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u/Horcher88 — 12 days ago

Advice on having a deeper understanding

First year GEM student here. I'm worried about becoming a passmed robot. Any advice on how I can ensure I actually understand basic sciences?

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u/Ok-Jaguar-9562 — 11 days ago

Timing for OSCE examination stations seem ridiculous

It seems like I’m having to rush through everything for the generic steps, and then once I get to the viva questions, there are like 6 Qs in 30 seconds. That’s one every 5 seconds but the examiner has to read it out to you, so more like one every 3 seconds. And on geeky medics, there are like 5 points per question.

So you don’t even have time to think; you sort of have to just regurgitate the response as a reflex and even then, you’re lucky to finish all of the vivas on time.

And when you sound flustered for speaking at a ridiculous speed, you get downmarked for seeming anxious.

Am I missing something or is this a ridiculous way of assessing competency? How are you all finishing on time?

Thanks.

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u/FriendlyThroat2717 — 11 days ago

Essential tremor in opthalmology?

Hi, so I'm a fourth year who's finally experienced a specialty that I enjoyed which is opthalmology. I really enjoyed sitting in clinics and I really got on with the opthalmologists; it was also so cool to see the eye surgeries.

However, I have come to the very sudden and sad realisation that I was diagnosed with having an essential tremor like a year ago which is not ideal for a specialty that requires precision. The tremor isn't extremely prominent but when I get anxious (which I do a lot unfortunately) it is quite noticeable. I'm not sure whether I should seek medical treatments that I have heard are good for essential tremors like propanolol? But with medical treatments I really don't want to have to be dependent on them for life as someone who is in their 20s.

I guess I just wanted advice from anyone within the field or knows anyone who has managed this problem because if it is not manageable and not worth it, I will save my time working on opthalmology related interests.

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u/ZLORO — 11 days ago