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Added another autograph into my prized possession today!

Added another autograph into my prized possession today!

Today I had the pleasure of meeting Cam Clarke and got him to add his autograph to my MGS1 premium package!

That makes him, David Hayter, Hideo Kojima and Yoji Shinkawa; and I'm still desperate to get Paul Eiding, Christopher Randolph and Doug Stone, but they pretty much never travel outside the US :(

u/N-Tail — 2 hours ago

Pretty sure that if Metal Gear (1987) gets a remake, they'll make Big Boss look younger

Originally Big Boss was in his 70s during the Outer Heaven uprising in 1995, but as the series went on, MGS3 retconned the character's background that was mentioned in the manuals and on MGS1's Japanese website descriptions. Jack was born in 1935 instead of sometime during the 1920s, making him 60 years old in MG1, and he was still in pretty good shape during MGSV, which takes place 9 years before MG1. Granted, there are people who lose their strength once they enter their 60s.

u/Jaccblacc203 — 5 hours ago
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Raiden sipping cuntily on some electrolyte spines boba (by me)

Been wanting to draw this for months and finally did it

u/Shinonobun — 5 hours ago
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If Ocelot had something to do with Les Enfants Terribles

I like the theory that Ocelot was behind everything, so here's a little what-if moment.

Not exactly canon-timeline accurate but I just wanted older Ocelot for this one :)

u/NoniyaArt — 7 hours ago

XOF soldier (me) getting interrogated by Snake | OKB Zero, 1984

Cosplayed as XOF from MGSV again at last year’s Dutch Comic Con in november. Came across an awesome Snake cosplayer and we took the opportunity to take this interrogation photo together. 😄 Too bad i don’t know his @. Really gotta do a proper photoshoot with my MGS cosplays someday

u/Orkerd — 8 hours ago

Why Chapter 2 makes sense and is well written

Since its release, many people have been claiming that chapter 2 is empty, badly written, disjointed, or an afterthought from the devs. I will show how that's not the case, and how it was crafted with clear intent.

Part 1: The Plot

From its very first cutscene [picture 1], we see that the core theme will be internal suspicion and paranoia. The void left by Skull Face (or Moby Dick's white whale)'s death, will prompt Miller to start an orwellian policy at Mother Base. This will lead to the departure of almost all the characters we've recruited (Quiet, Eli, the Mbele children, Huey) and to the deaths of a large chunk of our soldiers.

These events are not a coincidence, it's the central theme of the chapter making itself apparent, and it's all pretty consistent. This is made totally clear by the tapes [pic. 7] [pic. 8]. Here the writers link the themes of parasites, suspicion, racism, revenge and political control all together.

If we investigate mission 43 "Shining Lights", we see through optional radio calls (which probably 99% of players have missed) that Miller was responsible for that event [pic. 9]. That hatred turned inwards after the dissapearance of the external enemy is a consequence of revenge, and is one of Skull Face's parting gifts.

Mark Twain's quote used in the E3 2014 trailer summarizes it best: "Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured.”

This self-hatred is also evidently showed in the Paz cutscenes.

The game also links that theme back to The Patriots, and how essential it is to define or fabricate an enemy in order to keep any group under control. Outer Heaven is no stranger to that logic.

Part 2: Game Design

With this clear red lining for the plot, we can see how most of the story is going to take place in the background, on Mother Base, and not on the field. The few new main ops have the purpose of showing us that even after Zero's dissapearance and SF's death, the cogs of the machine that is Cipher keep turning (mission 32 with the secret XOF assassin that comes if you wait for him, mission 35 and 41, etc..). Those cement the so-called "War without end" that BB and his men are in.

As for the main side ops, they're there for the same reason as the Zadornov missions in Peace Walker, they allow the game to reveal the story and tapes to us bit by bit, and give time for the things in the background to unfold.

Given the open world and RPG aspect of the game, that time is also necessary to allow the players to discover the optional cutscenes they may have not gotten yet (most importantly the Paz ones, or the ones related to the buddies, etc), and to improve their stats.

The game took its non-linearity to heart and offered a giant puzzle that the players can complete by replaying and exploring any of its parts freely. This might have been a problem, if we weren't given a fascinating lore and one of the most fun gameplays ever. Those two elements make that process worthwile.

Part 3: The Truth

The themes and the gamedesign offered to us by chapter 2 make us truly take the mantle of Big Boss by allowing us to fully develop our base, nukes and all, and also to make us go through a kind of initiation ritual, a plunging through the fires of hell that is very similar but even worse than the murder of The Boss, like an eternal, looping curse. This applies whether you consider BB and Venom to be different characters or not.

With the ending, Kojima cements this by finally giving us the keys to the franchise, packed up in a perfect loop, and to our own Outer Heaven. He even allows us to defy the canon of the franchise and of history by letting us the choice to rid the world of its nukes. "We can change the world - and with it, the future."

Part 51: The Missing Link

As for how the Truth is unlocked, nearly no one knows about this, but the ultimate requirement is actually listening to the tape about Eli's DNA test. You can do everything absolutely else in the game, but if you didn't listen to that, the mission won't appear. I even tested this by having it be the last yellow tape I listened to, and then by leaving some other ones "unlistened". Try it yourself.

This implies that the DNA test is what chronologically made Venom realize his true identity, and the same could be said about Miller. So even the mission's sudden appearance makes sense, though it's to be understood through the non-linearity of the game and how the players need to look for all the info.

TLDR:
The game's writing, game design and secrets make it clear that chapter 2 was crafted to be this way and that the whole thing conveys clear points that the authors wanted to make and themes they wanted to explore. Something with an intent that clearly defined can't be called unfinished.

u/Electric-boogaloo69 — 10 hours ago

question about the prologue of MGSV

I was just wondering why Venom Snake, when he was in a car accident in Cyprus and woke up and saw Ocelot, didn't ask, "What is Ocelot doing here?" Ocelot didn't appear in MGS Peace Walker, so why would he appear in Cyprus?

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u/Sinzik288 — 7 hours ago

I gave TTS the benefit of the doubt and started watching a walkthrough. Being its own game everything seemed pretty cool and awesome up until this moment where Baker says he doesnt remember Meryls frequency - this is Snakes reaction.

Yes, he really did just throw a tantrum and yes I stopped watching from there.

u/Danmatus91 — 17 hours ago

MGS2 Soundtrack in This Video? Please Help!

Im currently researching for an assingment on ethnic chinese intergration in post-independence Malaya, and upon my search I stumbled across this video with a familiair tune. I swear the music in the first 2 minutes is ripped directly from the MGS2 soundtrack but i dont know which part. Please help!

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u/akairisenpai — 7 hours ago

WHY DOES VENOM TRUST OCELOT?

So why does Venom immediately trust Ocelot with his life? If Venom knows all that Big Boss does - then Big Boss has no idea that Ocelot was ADAM. We never learn why Venom fully believes in Ocelot. Is it implied that Ocelot just hypnotizes him to trust him also? If so, that feels a tiny bit lazy.
Because if Venom knows only everything that Big Boss does - the last time these two crossed paths, they were trying to kill each other.

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u/Used_Area_2670 — 17 hours ago