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Zimone, Infinite Analyst + Mana Drain interaction?

Hi, so I have Zimone, Infinite Analyst out with 3x 1+/+1 counters on her. I also have 5 mana. I cast a creature with 1 Green, 1 Blue and X. I use Zimone's ability to cast this creature with 1 Blue, 1 Green and X = 6 (3 remaining mana + Zimone's counters).

My opponent counters the spell with Mana Drain, do they get 5 mana or 8 mana

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u/evocatio — 7 hours ago

Quick Question about interaction between [[Out Of Time]] and [[Stifle]]

My question revolves around an interaction between those cards. More specifically when the creatures phase back in due to [[Out Of Time]] leaving the battlefield (be it through it running out or being destroyed, etc).

Could I [[Stifle]] as a reaction, to counter the triggered ability of "[...] until Out of Time leaves the battlefield"? Or is not a triggered ability since it's all part of the same big sentence?

My research and looking online has left me with more questions than what I started with but that encapsulated MTG very well. Thank you for anyone who will take the time to answer me.

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u/Foreign-Produce-5092 — 9 hours ago

Infinite Loop? Did we interpret this correctly?

Last weekend we were playing a 5 player game of commander when one player used Malakir Rebirth on her commander, Elenda the Dusk Rose, and then played Massacre Girl. Elenda had no counters on her, so she was just a 1/1, and so died when Massacre Girl came into play, but was immediately revived by Malakir Rebirth. Malakir Rebirth says “until end of turn,” so we took that to mean that the resurrected Elenda would still have that affect, so Elenda would die again from Massacre Girl, then be resurrected, and would continue to die and be resurrected forever. Did we interpret the situation correctly?

Massacre Girl | Malakir Rebirth | Elenda the Dusk Rose

u/Miseregame — 8 hours ago

Can The Eternal Wanderer be stopped by instant speed removal on entry?

Hiya, I have a question about an interaction at 43min34s on this episode of game knights:

https://youtu.be/d2r50q6Xa8w?si=p1TUk\_9TkqD39r5H

Josh playes The Eternal Wanderer, intending to -4 it and board wipe. Jimmy wants to stop the board wipe but has lethal scheme and targets spider man instead? Couldnt he have targeted The Eternal Wanderer in response to in entering? Surely josh wouldnt have an opportunity to activate the ability in that case.

Am i missing something? All of them act like jimmy didnt manage to find anything to stop the wipe. I feel like im missing a rule here..

u/Upper-Song1149 — 11 hours ago

Stack question

If I play flourishing defenses and my opponent responds with an instant to destroy it then I play an elf to activate high perfect morcants blight ability does the flourishing defenses loop still trigger for that turn before it is removed? Thank you!

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u/JustADad- — 11 hours ago

Arixmethes interaction with Sin, Spiras Punishment

Let's say i play [[Sin, Spira's Punishment]] and the lottery hits [[Arixmethes, Slumbering Isle]] - does the Sin trigger again, since Arixmethes is a land when it enters (since it triggers landfall)?

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u/sydaemen — 10 hours ago

Removing Counters In Exile

Alaundo the Seer puts cards into exile with time counters so a pseudo suspend. When Sin unending cataclysm enters and removes all counters from creatures artifacts and enchantments, does the card also remove all counters from cards in exile as well? If not why?
Also here’s the deck I’m working on in question it’s low power and gotta make a bunch of cuts. Thanks!

https://moxfield.com/decks/L7BED3Y2h02JuZVYamhJhA

u/External_Addendum_40 — 13 hours ago

Prepared Mirror

I have a [[Mirage Mirror]] on board.

Opponent controls an [[Emeritus of Woe]]

I activate the mirror to copy the emeritus;

I go to my end step, the mirror is now prepared.

Is the mirror still prepared when it stops being an Emeritus of Woe?

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u/3LITE30 — 15 hours ago

damage replacement effects

does rule 616.1 allow me, the effected player of an ETB trigger dealing damage to me being modified by uncivil unrest and Tor Wauki, the younger, to change the order of resolution for those replacement effects instead of the controller of the etb trigger

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u/Plastic_Custard_8992 — 20 hours ago

Double trigger of transforming

If I control [[Roaming Throne]] and [[ashling, rekindled]]. At the beginning of my first main phase, would the transforming trigger twice? If so what would happen, can I transform twice? What about [[avatar aang]]?

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u/Tall-Garbage4066 — 17 hours ago

Hideaway Timing

Does Hideaway circumvent timing restrictions? If I hideaway a sorcery, do I have to play it any time I could cast a sorcery, or can I play it at instant speed with the hideaway cost and conditions? For example, if I hide [[Urza’s Ruinous Blast]] with [[Clive’s Hideaway]]?

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u/Radiant_Mango_3020 — 1 day ago

Questions on timing effects for Ninjutsu

Hi all, I built a [[Goro-Goro and Satoru]] deck that’s kind of a weird mix of ninja and dragon tribals (I call it “Teenage Ninja Dragons”) and one of the key cards in the Deck is [[Satoru Umezawa]] and in play testing, I’m starting to see interactions past the obvious GGS triggers that I was wondering about.

First, if I have a [[Sarkan, Soul aflame]] on the field tapped and attacking along with another creature and my opponent blocks him but I ninjutsu out a dragon (literally any flying dragon) from the other unblocked creature, is Sarkan still considered blocked if he gains flying?

Second, several dragons have a “when this dragon attacks” or “when a dragon attacks trigger” and I wonder how those work with Ninjutsu. Remember part of these examples is Satoru is on the field giving dragons in my hand Ninjutsu. If I ninjutsu a [[Silumgar, the Drifting Death]], is it going to see itself or other dragons attacking and give the defending creatures the -x/-x? My assumption is because it’s not on the field during the declare attacker steps, it doesn’t see them attacking and won’t trigger. Which brings in a follow up, if Silumgar is already on the field and I ninjutsu in another dragon (let’s say by bouncing another unblocked non-dragon creature) does Silumgars minus values update with the new attacking dragon?

Forgive me if I didn’t format this well, this is my first post. I also only got back into magic right around the release of Lorwyn with my prior experience being standard only in 2012-2013, so I’m still trying to grasp the timings on some of these effects.

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u/Shadowlrd — 22 hours ago

how does [[krark, the thumbless]] work with prepraed spells?

ok, if i win the flip its all fine and dandy but if i lose, what do i do? is the prepared creature still prepared? or does nothing happen?

im assuming the creature becomes unprepared no matter what, but im not 100% sure about this interaction.

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u/Justafish1654 — 1 day ago

Can you change “as a sorcery”

Hey everyone, I was wondering if there are cards or mechanics that can alter the limitation set on abilities “as a sorcery” like with [[xavier sal, infested captain]]. Like is there a card I can use so that his abilities happen at instant speed or is it not possible?

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u/Super-Barracuda3441 — 1 day ago

how do i resolve [[krark, the thumbless]] and [[lilah, undefeated slickshot]]?

im assuming that despite lilah having an ability that is triggered on instant and sorcery cast, hers got to resolve after krark's and only if i flip heads?

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u/Justafish1654 — 1 day ago

Question on Undercity Plague

I'm building a mono-black deck which is essentially zombie and forcing opponents to sac their stuff which builds my zombie army with [Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet]].

I have the Sorcery [[Undercity Plague]] with Cipher on it.

  • Ability 1: Target player loses 1life, discards 1 card, and sac's a permanent
  • Ability 2: Cipher - encodes it to another creature and creates a copy of it itself when that create does combat damage.

The way I understand it, I cast Undercity and put it on a creature. I attack & do damage, and Cipher copies Undercity Plague card and it gets cast again which i can encode on another creature during my combat phase. ALSO... in my opponents combat phase, If i block with the creature and it survives, I can then also cast Undercity again since it did Combat damage to my opponents creature, essentially making that target lose 1 life, discard, and sac again.

Is that correct? Seems like that could be abused across your board.

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u/Possible_Beach6603 — 1 day ago

How many damage is this

Im playing Miiym as my commander and I have three scourge of valkas and a doubling season. if I play a astral dragon and do the whole combo I end up with 69 doubling seasons and about 33 astral dragons. I have earth quake dragon in my hand so i can play it for 1 mana. it creates about 600 quintillion earthquake dragons how much damage do I do with scourge of valkas and did I do the combo right

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Couple questions while building Tetzin

I'm currently building a [[Teztin, gnome champion]] commander deck and I wondered if [[Phyrexian dragon engine]] triggered Tetzin's first ability ? Is it even consider as double sided ? I mean it is but not a full card behind so I really can't tell and I can't find ruling about this.

My other question is if I manage to make an artifact a creature, whatever lets say black lotus, with [[depthshaker titan]] and then copy that black lotus creature with [[phyrexian metamorph]], what happens to my black lotus copy at the and of turn ? Do I have to sacrifice it ? Or a copy of my black lotus creature from [[Cyberdrive Awakener]], would the black lotus copy stay a creature at the end of turn ? Could someone please help me on this ! I can't find answers and it kinda matters for how I build this deck...

English is not my native language so my questions are probably a bit messy.

Edit : had to fix second question

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u/Extremetoasterlord — 1 day ago

How does Mindbreak Trap interact with [LCI] Flashback and [THB] Underworld Breach?

Let's say the conditions exist to cast [[Mindbreak Trap]] for its alternate {0} cost.

If you cast and resolve [[Flashback]] and target Mindbreak Trap in your graveyard, can you cast Mindbreak Trap for {0}? Or do you have to pay {2}{U}{U}?

Alternatively, if your [[Underworld Breach]] is on the battlefield and you have access to casting Mindbreak Trap from your graveyard, do you still have to pay {2}{U}{U} and exile three cards from your graveyard? Or can you pay {0} and exile three cards instead?


Edit to the title: [SOS] Flashback

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u/Castleheart — 1 day ago