r/overpopulation

Humanity may be crossing a demographic line it has never crossed before at a planetary scale: the world population may now be having too few children to replace itself.

But the more surprising part of a new analysis is not the threshold itself. It is where the collapse is happening.

Reproduction happens in nature to keep the species alive in the ecosystem. Whichever species has more survival skills which are - get the food to sustain the energy, shelter to protect themselves from danger, rains and heat and keep themselves safe as in to be alive through fight or flight against danger. Humans have been in the nature for around 300000 years now. they are the top most intelligent species to exist. the purpose of reproduction for human is the same as for any other species. but because of how many ever hundreds of reasons, we came to a conclusion on how to lead life. the factors and the process of this might change with location but fundamentally the system of life cycle for all the humans is segregated in 5 stages - get educated, get a job to sustain, get married, give birth, raise them, die now, all the stages have their own purpose - 1. get educated so that you can use the knowledge to earn the money that you need to get food, shelter etc 2. get married so that your emotional along with physical needs are met in the most moral way possible 3. give birth - to keep your legacy and your reputation and money forward 4. Raise kids - to make them their own self and to take care of you when you cant tend to yourself 5. die - because we are not immortal while this system says what it says and has been set for as long as the civilization existed, now we are aware of a vast majority of what makes the earth inhabitable, basically what is good for us and what is bad for us and in what is good for us, good food - organic, less artificial chemicals, good shelter - that can protect us from the dangers, good personality - conducting yourself properly so that the codependency can happen smoothly, good values - which comes out from the good personality what is bad for us - whatever threatens our existence - food which has artificial chemicals in it, bad personality which might lead to crime, bad values - don't consider the repercussions of actions, overpopulation - don't consider other life worth living which brings me to my main point which is - after all of the civilization and all the knowledge that we possess, why do we still feel the need to reproduce just because the social systems ask you to do so which were set when there was less knowledge and less awareness,

why do you feel the need to continue this when we are aware of the biggest problem to our own existence is overpopulation?

It will be enough once All Population will have food and affordable for every one .Why do they think to have children anyways

They are already importers of food and worldwide small farmers are no longer being able to make a profit and hence are going bankrupt/not sowing crops anymore(the grocery price rise in US is mainly caused by this) soo countries will not be exporting food all that often now.

Dont think people will take too many refuges anymore.

What do you think will happen.

I think natalists sometimes overlook an uncomfortable point: a falling population isn't automatically a tragedy in every political context.

For countries like North Korea and Russia, I don't feel obligated to view demographic decline as something that must be prevented at all costs. Both governments have created systems that subject huge numbers of people to repression, militarization, and severe restrictions on individual freedom. If those societies eventually became smaller because people chose to have fewer children, I wouldn't necessarily regard that as a demographic catastrophe.

Obviously, I'm not wishing suffering or death on ordinary Russians or North Koreans. I'm talking about the long-term sustainability of political systems that many people would consider deeply harmful. There's a difference between caring about individual human beings and believing that every state should maintain its current population indefinitely.

Maybe the more interesting natalist question is: why should increasing the population always be considered inherently good, regardless of what kind of society those additional people would be born into?

Even when I go to the gym at 2am I’m seeing people everywhere ffs

https://www.reddit.com/r/Natalism/s/1gEEiHkPox

World population, 1960 = 3 billion. 37.4%. That's 1.122 billion kids 0-14.

World population, 2026 = 8.3 billion. 24.4%. That's 2.025 billion kids 0-14.

Where'd they go? They INCREASED in number, significantly, almost doubling. The overall global human population almost tripled. The world is FULL of humans and human-made stuff. If people are responding to that level of fullness by having slightly fewer kids per person, GREAT! We should encourage human birth rates to keep decreasing.

Thoughts?

Alle heulen Rum buhu Zuwenig Kinder unsere Bevölkerung schrumpft auf ein Drittel in 2 Generationen Blabla... Ich weiss nicht ob euch jemand über den bevölkerungsanstieg seit den 20ern informiert hat. Die Bevölkerung diverser länder hat sich extrem multipliziert. Soweit das in Ballungszentrenlebenshaltung so teuer geworden ist das man es sich kaum leisten kann. Wir haben einen gigantischen Niedriglohnsektor, man benötigt 2 Einkommen um halbwegs normal über die Runden zu kommen. Zu allem überfluss ist Wohneigentum quasi unerschwinglich, Neubauhaus in 10 Jahren abbezahlen? Keine Chance wenn du nicht Grade über 100.000 netto verdienst. Also kleines extra schaut mal an die Schule, du könntest das perfekte Eltern paar sein um dein Kind zu einer Horde lernbehinderter Vollidioten in die Schule stopfen. Statistiken belegen das die Kinder inzwischen selbst in der 8ten Klassen zublöd zum lesen und schreiben sind. Als kleines extra gibt es noch Alimente etc die man leisten muss wenn die Beziehung in die brüche geht, man kann also mit Kindern eher sein Leben nachhaltig zerstören als mit einem falschen Job. Hätten wir Bezahlung wie in den 60ern oder 80ern und die gleichen finanziellen wie systemischen unterstützungen wär das ganze ja noch denkbar. Sind an sich ja immernoch 18-30 Jahre volle Verantwortung. Für das Alter hab ich Jahre in die Rente eingezahlt, sollte das in 35 Jahren nicht funktionieren bin ich auch nicht weiter enttäuscht von der Gesellschaft und Regierung. Ist doch alles nur noch peinlich.