Why a U.S. Childfree Tax Could Be Politically and Socially Unworkable

I don't think the U.S. could realistically impose a tax specifically targeting childfree adults, even if there were political support for pronatalist policies.

Parents also have to think about their own children's safety. Before supporting policies designed to pressure people into having children, they should consider the risks their children could face, including the persistent problem of school shootings in the United States. Asking people to become parents while failing to adequately address those risks raises serious ethical questions.

The U.S. also has an unusually large, armed civilian population and a deeply entrenched culture of individual rights. A policy perceived as coercing people into having children could generate enormous political resistance and potentially destabilize society. I wouldn't assume that childfree people are inherently violent or that a civil war would be inevitable, but policymakers should take the possibility of severe backlash seriously.

If the goal is higher fertility, incentives such as affordable housing, childcare, parental leave, and direct family benefits seem much more practical than punishing people who don't have children.

We don't want a bloodbath. A few people allegedly freeriding the system is much better than large groups of people purging a lot of old folks and children who can't defend themselves.

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u/El-nino0 — 15 hours ago

Seniors Helping Seniors: A Cooperative Future

We often assume that having children means you’ll have someone to help you when you’re older. But what happens when those children have to move to another city or country for work? In many communities, even people with children may eventually live far away from them and face the same loneliness and practical problems as everyone else.

That’s why I think we should seriously consider senior citizen cooperatives.

Instead of seeing older people only as recipients of care, why not create communities where seniors help each other with the things they can still do? Shopping, cooking, gardening, small repairs, paperwork, transportation, checking in on neighbors, or simply spending time together.

The idea isn’t to replace professional healthcare or expect seniors to do things they can’t. It’s about building a support network so that people aren’t completely dependent on family members who may live hundreds or thousands of kilometers away.

Our society is aging, and young people will increasingly move wherever the jobs are. Maybe we need to build communities where growing older doesn’t mean growing more isolated.

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u/El-nino0 — 1 day ago

Falling birth rates aren't necessarily bad for every country

I think natalists sometimes overlook an uncomfortable point: a falling population isn't automatically a tragedy in every political context.

For countries like North Korea and Russia, I don't feel obligated to view demographic decline as something that must be prevented at all costs. Both governments have created systems that subject huge numbers of people to repression, militarization, and severe restrictions on individual freedom. If those societies eventually became smaller because people chose to have fewer children, I wouldn't necessarily regard that as a demographic catastrophe.

Obviously, I'm not wishing suffering or death on ordinary Russians or North Koreans. I'm talking about the long-term sustainability of political systems that many people would consider deeply harmful. There's a difference between caring about individual human beings and believing that every state should maintain its current population indefinitely.

Maybe the more interesting natalist question is: why should increasing the population always be considered inherently good, regardless of what kind of society those additional people would be born into?

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u/El-nino0 — 4 days ago
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Falling birth rates aren't necessarily bad for every country

I think natalists sometimes overlook an uncomfortable point: a falling population isn't automatically a tragedy in every political context.

For countries like North Korea and Russia, I don't feel obligated to view demographic decline as something that must be prevented at all costs. Both governments have created systems that subject huge numbers of people to repression, militarization, and severe restrictions on individual freedom. If those societies eventually became smaller because people chose to have fewer children, I wouldn't necessarily regard that as a demographic catastrophe.

Obviously, I'm not wishing suffering or death on ordinary Russians or North Koreans. I'm talking about the long-term sustainability of political systems that many people would consider deeply harmful. There's a difference between caring about individual human beings and believing that every state should maintain its current population indefinitely.

Maybe the more interesting natalist question is: why should increasing the population always be considered inherently good, regardless of what kind of society those additional people would be born into?

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u/El-nino0 — 4 days ago

The social contract between parents and childless people (and kinda why they get to freeride allegedly)

I think there’s an overlooked social contract between parents and people who don’t have children.

Parents take on the responsibility of bringing the next generation into the world and raising those children. Childless people, in turn, have a basic obligation to recognize that children are members of society who deserve to grow up safe and free from unnecessary harm.

That doesn’t mean childless people owe parents unlimited money, labor, or personal sacrifice. Nor does it mean parents are entitled to special treatment simply because they have children.

The more basic principle is: children should be protected because they are vulnerable human beings and because they are the future members of the society we all share.

So the childfree side of the social contract can be quite simple: don't harm children, don't exploit them, don't make society unnecessarily dangerous for them, and respect parents' legitimate efforts to keep their kids safe.

In return, parents should recognize that childless people have their own lives, responsibilities, and choices. Having children doesn't automatically give someone a claim over another person's time, money, or freedom.

Natalism, at its best, shouldn't be about dividing parents and non-parents. It should be about recognizing that raising children creates benefits that extend beyond the individual family and that protecting children is a responsibility shared by the whole community.

Parents raise the next generation. Everyone else can at least help ensure that generation has a safe society to grow up in.

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u/El-nino0 — 7 days ago