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SureFire SOCOM Closed Tine Flash Hider Bayonet Compatibility

Please ignore my mowing shoes and pasty legs. 😅 I just wanted to throw this up here as an “FYI” to anyone looking to do the following:

#1. Have a muzzle device compatible with SureFire’s SOCOM suppressors
#2. Do a pin and weld on a 14.5” barrel
#3. Mount a bayonet using the lug on a front sight block (carbine length gas system)

I’m slapping together a Block “1.5” M4 SOPMOD-inspired build at the moment. My starting point for this phase was a 14.5” SOCOM profile barrel with a 1:7 twist and fixed FSB to accommodate M855 green tip, a carbine length gas system, and a bayonet (I know, I know… extra). Because I’m looking at getting either the RC2 or the RC4 eventually, I obviously started looking over SureFire’s muzzle devices. I needed one that could bring my barrel length past 16” after a P&W. Beyond that, I didn’t really wanna open myself up to the possibility of a snag annoyance commonly associated with open tines. Finally, I was hoping to find one with an outer diameter that wasn’t too wide for the mounting rings on NATO bayonets.

After a mountain of research, I arrived here. Pictured is the SureFire Closed Tine Flash Hider, the Waffentechnik B2K bayonet (identical lock-up to a standard M9 bayonet), and the “business end” of the aforementioned 14.5” SOCOM profile barrel. Straight out of the box, these parts will not fully cooperate. Due to the raised collar (just above the wrench flats) on the flash hider, the bayonet mounting ring physically cannot clear the ports, causing the bayonet to be right at about one inch from locking up on the lug. I’m gonna bust out the calipers to see if I can figure out exactly what the inner diameter of the bayonet’s mounting ring SHOULD be in order to provide the necessary clearance for lock-up. If I can remove enough material with my Dremel without compromising the mounting ring, I’ll be able to achieve all three goals listed above! If not, I’ll just do without the stabby stick.

Just for clarification, this is a build that I’ll be shooting 50/50 suppressed/unsuppressed. I’m fully aware that there’s no way to mount a bayonet AND use the suppressor at the same time (without using the Geissele mount). I’m not a COMPLETE idiot. 😉 I’ll keep you all posted!

u/dillon_james97 — 5 days ago

Change is design on DFT head?

Has surefire changed the design on the KF2-A-DFT head? I get the middle is a different model head. But the 2 outside are the same.

u/AKRod45 — 7 days ago

Surefire RC4 review

Took until just last month to finally receive the thing.

Notes: built like a tank at 2 oz heavier than the silencerco velos.

Finish: weak. Parts had already rubbed down to the metal from in bouncing around in the box. It’ll probably look very marked up after some actual range time.

Sound review: notably louder shooting the same ammo through the same gun compared to the velos. Seemingly louder than a huxwrx TI but fired from a different gun of same barrel length 16”.

I guess the selling point of this must be the flash suppression and it being somewhat less gassy to the face when mag dumping (true, but barely better imho). Perhaps overall it’ll outlast other suppressors since this seems to be a hybrid design of baffles and a few flow channels on the outside.

Honestly you’ll be better off with the rc2 or something else.

I have not fired an rc2 myself. The call is based off my reviews of other reviews.

For what I have direct comparison to I rank the velos over the rc4 for sound suppression and cost ($1100 with a mount). The hux wins over the rc4 for weight, sound suppression, and cost ($800 with a mount is a deal)

Rc4 is less gassy, built entirely from inconel (high heat tolerance), and per Surefire claims is the best at flash suppression (which could be a big deal).

I paid $1400 shipped/otd, but had to buy a $200 muzzle device.

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u/Gold_Map_236 — 7 days ago

Can someone help identify this old sure fire?

It’s from my dad who was in the army for the past 26 years. If era is needed he was in Iraq in 2004, Egypt a bit after that and Afghanistan in like 2009 or so. I know it’s outdated but just a curious.

u/Historicalmilitaria — 14 days ago

Holy Trinity

$1000 in muzzles reminds me of the 4 prong dark ages in 2018 😌 (MP7, 300/762, & 556 A2

u/Cullen2391 — 14 days ago

Mini scout pro vs mini scout turbo

Looking to put a SureFire on my Springfield kuna mainly going to be using light for home defense. Should I go with pro or spend a little extra for the turbo?

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u/F22Chris_ — 13 days ago