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Under extreme pressure, the DNC 2024 election autopsy report has finally been released

Under extreme pressure, the DNC 2024 election autopsy report has finally been released

>When I was elected DNC chair, I commissioned an after action review of the 2024 election that I wanted to be honest and transparent, and with actionable and specific takeaways for the future of the Democratic Party. When I received the report late last year, it wasn’t ready for primetime — not even close — and because no source material was provided, it would have meant starting over. I could not in good faith put the DNC’s stamp of approval on the report that was produced.”

>“After last November’s massive Democratic wins, I didn’t want to create a distraction, but by not putting the report out, I ended up creating an even bigger distraction. For that, I sincerely apologize. For full transparency, I am releasing the report as we received it, in its entirety, unedited and unabridged. It does not meet my standards, and it won’t meet your standards, but I am doing this because people need to be able to trust the Democratic Party and trust our word.”

Ken Martin is such a weasely little fucking liar, go back and watch his interview with Pod Save from three weeks ago where he flopsweats and humiliates himself for half an hour about this shit. What a joke.

DNC Chair Ken Martin in HEATED Interview About RELEASE of 2024 Election Autopsy

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u/MayorEbert — 10 hours ago

This was posted earlier with a 'misleading' (as in fibbing) header, here is the full article including "More than 80 percent of the party’s backers thought the political and economic system should be torn down entirely or needed major changes, and nearly 90 percent called the economic system."

Header: Democrats’ Midterm Strength Masks Fierce Divides and Frustration, Poll Shows

Subheader: Democratic voters are in a combative, anti-establishment mood, unhappy with their party and disagreeing about its best path forward, a New York Times/Siena poll found.

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The Democratic Party is entering the midterm elections with the political winds at its back but a fiercely dissatisfied and divided voter base that is trying to steer the party in wildly divergent directions, a New York Times/Siena poll found.

More than half of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents expressed frustration with the party, despite the fact that Democrats appear well positioned to take the House and compete for the Senate in November. Registered voters favored Democratic candidates over Republicans by 10 percentage points, a sizable margin less than six months out from the midterms.

But beneath that strong showing, unhappiness spanned almost every part of the party’s coalition — including young, white, Black and college-educated voters — and was especially strong among Democrats least attached to the party, who are the most likely to swing elections.

What questions were asked? Who answers polls?

The New York Times/Siena Poll has earned a reputation for accuracy and transparency. Our pollsters and editors are committed to explaining our methods and answering common questions. Read our Q. and A. and explore the full results of the polls:

“Nothing seems to work,” said Raymond Gretz, 57, of Naples, Fla., who said he wanted to see his party push back more vigorously on President Trump. “I’m frustrated that they’re not doing more, but everything they do seems to fail. It’s kind of unbelievable.”

The poll captured a combative, anti-establishment mood within the Democratic Party that appears to be reaching a boiling point. And there were abundant signs of a fractured coalition with at times contradictory views about the party’s best path forward.

While a majority of Democratic supporters said that they were generally happy with the party’s ideological positioning, 52 percent said the next Democratic presidential candidate should move the party to the center in order to win. Only a quarter said the next candidate should move the party to the left.

Still, the economic populism pushed by a growing number of Democratic midterm candidates has found a receptive audience. More than 80 percent of the party’s backers thought the political and economic system should be torn down entirely or needed major changes, and nearly 90 percent called the economic system unfair.

Democratic supporters were also more inclined to want the party to move to the left on health care, and continued to sharply shift their sympathies away from Israel and toward the Palestinians.

On issues like immigration and crime, though, more wanted to see the party move to the center rather than to the left.

The Democratic exasperation and disagreements may well end up being papered over in the midterm elections, with Mr. Trump’s approval rating sinkinggas prices rising and Democrats energized to defeat Republicans up and down the ballot.

Yet they are an early indication of the intraparty battles to come the moment the midterms are over.

Desires for Moderation and Populism

Frustration with the party was evident among both left-wing and more moderate voters — not to mention the general public, with 70 percent of all registered voters saying they were dissatisfied with Democrats. Sixty-four percent said the same of Republicans.

“They’ve got their eyes all on the wrong narratives,” said Robert Curtis, 62, a Democrat in Jersey City, N.J.

Mr. Curtis, who is Black and Native American, said he perceived the Democratic Party as overly focused on the rights of L.G.B.T.Q. Americans, at the expense of fighting back against the Supreme Court, which recently moved to further weaken the Voting Rights Act.

Democrats were divided when it came to transgender issues, which Mr. Trump focused on heavily in his 2024 campaign. Thirty-six percent said they would personally like to see the party move to the center on transgender issues, while 30 percent wanted it to move to the left and 30 percent did not want it to move in either direction. But when it came to the best strategy to win in 2028, Democrats were less likely to see moving to the left as the best option.

Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents were more united, though, in their desire to move to the middle on immigration and crime.

“There were some truths about immigration that Donald Trump homed in on,” said Patricia Soto, 77, a Democrat in Pinecrest, Fla. “The Democrats need to underscore that this is a nation of laws and regulations that are fair.”

Still, she stressed, “We do need to address the immigrants that are already here without vindictiveness, without making them all the bad guys, because that’s not true.”

In the survey, Democratic backers were in a more liberal, and certainly populist, mood when it came to pocketbook issues.

When presented with two opposing economic visions, more than two thirds of Democratic supporters said they favored a candidate who would “go after corporate monopolies and price gouging,” while just 30 percent preferred a candidate who promised to lower prices by easing housing regulations and expanding energy production.

Half wanted the party to move to the left on health care, and they were more than twice as likely to view socialism favorably as unfavorably. Younger Democrats and those with a college degree were especially likely to favor a move to the left on economic issues.

“While I think the Democrats are going in the right direction with their, like, ‘Medicare for all’ plans and everything, I would want to see that go further,” said Jacob LeClaire, 29, a Democrat in Humble, Texas. He pointed to Mayor Zohran Mamdani of New York City as a model.

Voters who identified as independent but leaned toward the Democratic Party were especially likely to be dissatisfied with the party’s direction. Nearly two-thirds of Democratic leaners, as they are sometimes known, expressed dissatisfaction, compared with 44 percent of those who identified as Democrats.

One Area of Unity: Opposition to Trump

Few things unify Democrats like opposition to Mr. Trump, whose approval rating among Americans overall has sunk to a second-term low. Among Democrats, he is at 5 percent.

But the party has clear disagreements about how hard to push back against the president.

Forty percent of Democratic supporters said they were satisfied with how much the party was fighting back against Mr. Trump, while 58 percent expressed dissatisfaction.

Democratic men and younger Democrats were especially likely to say they were not satisfied with how the party, locked out of power in Washington, was opposing the president.

“They haven’t convinced the American voters that they have a good issue that they’ve been fighting back on, such as health care,” said Gary Levenson-Palmer, 75, of Manchester, Calif.

Mr. Levenson-Palmer said that in general, he wanted to see the Democratic Party shift further to the left. But, in another reminder that voters do not fit neatly into ideological boxes, he said that Senator Chuck Schumer of New York — the Democratic leader who has frustrated many in his party, especially progressives — was “doing a fairly good job of what he can do.”

Among Democratic supporters, Mr. Schumer was viewed slightly more negatively than positively, though 35 percent of Democrats had not heard of him.

Democratic voters have loudly demanded generational change, especially after former President Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s disastrous re-election bid.

Still, in the poll, Democratic attitudes were more mixed, with 49 percent saying it was important to choose leaders with a fresh approach and 48 percent wanting leaders with proven experience.

Against the Iran War and Skeptical of Israel

Democratic backers were also largely in agreement on foreign policy issues.

Nearly all — 95 percent — opposed Mr. Trump’s decision to go to war with Iran and 84 percent thought it was not worth the costs.

And the survey illustrated how support for Israel has eroded amid anger over the Gaza war and, now, the U.S.-Israeli strikes on Iran.

Nearly three-quarters of Democratic supporters now oppose military aid to Israel, up from 45 percent three years ago.

And nearly half of Democratic backers said the party was too supportive of Israel. Sixty percent said they were more sympathetic to Palestinians than Israelis, compared with 15 percent who were more supportive of Israel.

Hannah Akey, 29, of Saranac, Mich., said that the party’s approach to “the issues in Gaza, the issues with health care, the issues with immigration” suggested that Democrats were trying too hard to accommodate right-leaning voters.

The lopsided numbers on Israel come at a time when some Jewish Democrats have described feeling increasingly politically homeless.

More broadly, Democrats have grown less interventionist as Mr. Trump has leaned into foreign conflicts, with 56 percent urging a focus on problems at home, rather than on world affairs, up from 37 percent in 2024.

Whatever the internal divisions, 95 percent of Democratic supporters said they planned to vote for the Democratic candidate in their district this fall. Even dissatisfied Democrats reported a high likelihood to vote.

Ms. Soto, of Florida, urged her party to be more aggressive in its messaging.

“The Democrats are always ‘no, we’re not communists’ — it’s all defense instead of offense,” she said. “We need to be more on the offense. We have a lot to lose.”

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u/Loud_Cartographer160 — 13 hours ago

Fund Prediction: Jan Sixers will get virtually nothing, cronies will get most of it and they will kick back to Trump by building the ballroom

Trump doesn't accomplish anything unless he is betraying allies. He'd rather have a high tech bunker than a couple thousand volatile assholes.

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u/Hazards_of_Analysis — 1 day ago

Trump’s Ballroom - Coup Pad?

I first heard the thought on Pod Save the World by Ben Rhodes and now it has come up again. Here’s the thing Tim, JVL, and Sarah missed, he is trying to build a facility with bunkers and drone military capabilities that can be managed from a bunker. Sounds like a nice place to hole up for a coup not protection.

In my mind you simply cut the power, but who am I? Likely has backup power…yeah.

Thoughts?!?

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u/Far_Review3970 — 1 day ago

Brainstorm: What should we call trump's $1.776 billion slush fund?

As JVL said, there needs to be a catchy, recognizable name for the slush fund that sticks in people's heads. It needs to be something ordinary Americans who don't follow news super closely can easily remember. I want all the name ideas!!

u/sachiprecious — 1 day ago
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Is a return to virtue based liberalism the answer we need?

So it seems to me that there is a persistent theme I have detected in the Liberal discourse lastly. It is a theme that we have a problem and also a possible solution. I wanted to present a number of different sources in order to illustrate how widespread these ideas are and then discuss them. 

The problem as it is presented is political; Democrats lack a clarity of vison. This was brought to the front by Rob Flaherty recently in a number of interviews and discussions about his reports for the 2024 autopsy. here (13:58) he discusses with Bill Crystal the importance of it. This point is reiterated here (11:00) in his discussion with Tim Miller where they also discuss Millers belief that we need more creative destruction in politics and that presidential campaigns must amount to something greater. Others have noted similar ideas. For example, the the Croked Media guys (1:11:22) talk about the importance of big ideas instead of platitudes and Anand Hernden (17:56, 43:04) says that politicians get credit not for their specific ideas so much as the clarity and strength of their convictions.  

I believe that this lack of a: brand” is actually the result of a greater intellectual flaw in modern liberalism, the lack of a moral vision. This is a thing I have also seen floating around a lot. Historian Gary Gerstle argues that all political orders have an accompanying vision of the good life. And a fundamental part of that is the construction of a moral order. Ezra Kline has been circling this idea for a while and in an recent interview (55:33), he says it explicitly. The entire show is about how originally Liberalism was a moral project as much as a political one, and that this was lost over time. He connects this to an excess of individualism and a lack of meaning.  Later in response to this video, J.J. McCullough and some likeminded youtubers expanded on discussed the topics. This theme of a need for a moral vision keeps coming up in different contexts. Earlier their book Kline and his coauthor were asked by Scott Galloway discussed (52:17) what the ultimate ends of politics should be, and while his coauthor did not, Kline gave an interesting answer that shows he is thinking about it. Two other thinkers who have been thinking about this a lot are David Brooks and George Packer. Brooks discuss the importance of morality a lot, specifically in a morality grounded in classical liberal humanism, this Interview here is a good example. Packer discusses on an episode of the Offline podcast (52:38) on how there is a need in human beings to aspire to a greater moral order and unity. 

All of this I think adds up to an idea I have been toying around with for a while. That the challenges to liberalism are not merely situational, that they represent a deep intellectual flaw in the way modern liberalism has evolved. But it seems like our current politics has a really hard time recognizing that. That we have become so technocratic and data driven that we have lost sight of a higher ideal. That we treat people as the consumers of a political product and not the participants in a particular social vision. I am interested to hear what you think. 

u/jfanch42 — 1 day ago

Let’s play: what do you hear / see?

Let’s do an experiment.

In that ONE line, what do you see / hear?

Readyyyyyyyyyyyy GO.

u/havenoparty — 21 hours ago

Really Variety, you really don’t think that late night talk shows have always been political?!

u/icey_sawg0034 — 1 day ago