r/twilightimperium

My friends and I want very much to play this game, it didn't have factions that appealed to all of us until Thunder's Edge but now we're really invested. But it's just... not available, anywhere? At least PoK, which I know is absolutely necessary for us, both because it balances the TE factions as their mechanics are built with leaders in mind, and because some of us want to play PoK factions.

We have looked at every game store within an hour and a half of us and everywhere online, and it's just... nowhere? Doing a ton of digging it seems it's been like this for years, and the eBay listings are frankly too expensive for not even a full game that we don't know if we'll like, for sure, yet.

Is there a print and play version possibly? Is there literally ANY way to actually play with this content? Or is this essentially a dead game for any newcomers until it gets reprinted?

Hoping maybe some of you have some suggestions for us so we can try the game! Thanks!

Finally got around to opening Thunder’s Edge and organizing it all. Is there any market for the printed codex 1-3 material still? Not sure what to do with it now and would love to try and sell it to someone who isn’t planning to get TE.

I also have like 80% of an organizer that I have no use for as I only repurposed part of it in order to re-organize with the added material. Same issue with that. I guess I could re-print the rest and try and sell it as a full TI4+POK organizer?

Hi everyone,

I'm looking at the Edicts for Twilight's fall the Artifice one says,

• Artifice: Draw 1 relic and 1 paradigm; for each point behind the player with the most victory points you are, you may draw an additional card from either deck. Choose one of each type to keep and shuffle the rest back into their respective decks.

For comparision, another Edict card is Arise, which says:

• Arise: Either place 1 infantry on each planet you control, or place 1 fighter in each system that contains your ships.

So Arise is a Rise of the Messaiah, which is an action card, but Artifice gives you a Relic and a Hero card and the possibility of offsetting the random draws.

Artifice seems way better then any of the other Edict options. I think I could have gotten behind it if it was one or the other, but keeping both!?! I can't see anyone taking anything else when presented with this.

Is there something I'm missing? Thanks!

So I've been watching the game for over 10 years now. I finally found a group of friends to actually sit and play through and play the games multiple times and I have a "meta identity crisis" with the game that I can't seem to understand.

What I mean by that is that the game seems to be more of a 3x game (I guess) than a 4x game? Where exterminate is usually on the backburner as the diplomacy is first and foremost and I guess there are unofficial social rulings to not go for the throat and eliminate people on top of being aggressive as too expensive.

But then I always wonder, when is aggressive, too aggressive and when is diplomatic, too diplomatic? Is it wrong to play someone like Barony of Letnev and play to their strengths as aggressive? Or is that playing aggressively with no late intention and considered throwing or trolling?

For me, I enjoy heavy macro games where all the choices have weight. That's what drew me to the game in the first place. But I am a mechanics efficient guy, so I thought there was more of a mechanical skill gap built innately into the game where you can win just from piecing together more strategy than another player. But then I realized that its a lot of diplomacy. Diplomacy to the point where not only do the mechanics matter on how diplomacy works at the table, but also, what personalities you bring. I was watching The Cardboard Crashcourse youtube and they were saying, "Player elimination is extremely rare, but if you are playing a lot of games where you're running into constant player elimination, I am sorry" (something to that effect). I'm guessing most people don't take things personal so much in this game, but player elimination is personal, and is that changing how the game is played every table round?

Thoughts on this?

Hi everyone,

Me and my group normally play to 12 points in our standard games (all expansions). We are going to be playing Twilight's Fall in a couple of weeks and I'm not sure if we should stay with the 12 or go back to 10. 10 points games always felt like they ended without big plays for us, but I notice that there is no support for the throne in TF.

I know that there are other objective variants out there, but I think that for TF we want to keep it (relatively) simple and play the normal way or just to two extra points.

Anyone have any experience with TF? Did you find 10/12 VPs was too short or long?

Thanks!

I tried building a few Twilight Imperium 4 maps myself using all expansions, but I'm still a bit unsure about the balance and would really appreciate some feedback. 🙂

Personally, I prefer maps that are a bit lower on resources and have fewer planets overall, since I think that creates more conflict and interaction between players.

My general question for the experienced members of the community is: What do you pay attention to when building a map? What are your main considerations regarding slice balance, positioning, tech skips, and legendary planets? Are there any common mistakes that newer map builders tend to make or guidelines you like to follow?

I'd love to hear your thoughts and learn how you approach map design.

Thank you very much! <3

Their faction tech in conjunction with Biostims and their PN has ground our async game to a halt. Is there a way to streamline the mini-agenda phases or are we doomed to suffer?

What's with all the people rushing to grab Mentak above all else? Every time I'm watching them struggle and wondering what that's about. Do they just love to suffer or what?

Hey guys, got an 6-player async game coming up with the Thunder's Edge and wanted to check some ideas off you. I’m playing Crimson and I’m 5th in the speaker order.

The table:

Argent (speaker)

Naalu

Nomad

Sardakk

Crimson (me)

Sol

Basically since I’m late in strategy card pick I was thinking to aim for Construction or Diplo to maximise filling up my slice asap. As a starting tech I’d go for DET unless asteroids block my way to Mecatol or Fracture. Who do you think should I pick for my alliance/trade partner? What SC would you pick in R1 and beyond?

Thanks guys!

Basically the title. In twilights fall, can a basic WarSun retreat?

I’ve been looking to get the game for years now and have just never gotten around to it. Now I have the opportunity to buy the 3rd edition for $30 used. I’d like a new set at 4th edition but realistically I have no idea when I’ll drop $150-$180 on the game. Should I go with 3rd to start playing sooner or wait and get 4th at a later date?

Edit

So I bought 4th. Found a really really good marketplace deal for a new still in the plastic TI. Any suggestions on how to find a local group, if not I have some friends of my own that are already interested to play! Thank you guys for the help!

My mate will be playing the Vuil'Raith Cabal faction and they're always REALLY overcompetitive so that's an awful combo for the rest of the table. I was wondering if there's any faction that may help me take advantage of their weaknesses? We have the base game + POK. Thanks for any help, love y'all, nerds <3

UPDATE: Played Sardakk! I did pretty well but still lost to the Cabal player 😔

TI4 isn't always about winning for me, so I'm looking to compile a list of the dumbest and funniest strategies you guys have played or seen played. Dont care about winning, just having a fun time with friends, laughing throughout the session. Feel free to share your stories as well, playing these strategies; I'd love to hear them

I played a lot of games and lately had a milty draft where the slices and factions where all comparable. Therefore I picked 1st pick before. But the more I think about it, the more I think being 3rd-ish is a better starting position than being speaker in the first round.

If you start as speaker, it is very possible, that you will never be speaker again in a 6P game.

- turn 2: player 3/4 takes it. Maybe sells it

- turn 3: the one who sold it can take it again

- turn 4: it needs to come back to you, which it will not, because it ia securing imperial for round 5

Also, being third in round one is enough to secure a BT with trade, diplo or politics.

Is there a statistic for starting position to winrate?

Do you agree?

Do you intentionally pick a worse seat over speaker in round 1?