Infomaniak mail android app configured OK
Current version of Thunderbird Android & Thunderbird W10 Laptop config error
Even after creating 2 new app pass, no success
I was wondering if anybody has any tips (tried successfully)
UPDATE:
phone call to a specified number worked after several attempts
I just don't like the thought of having an email from small and/or new operators as they may disappears, gets acquired, or changes course.
Many people are switching to smaller email providers for privacy. But how do we know they'll still exist in a few years, won't be acquired by companies we don't trust, or won't change their business model?
Are we reducing long-term risk, or just replacing one uncertainty with another?
Should long-term stability matter as much as privacy when choosing an email provider?
How do you evaluate whether a provider is a good long-term choice?
Are we making a mistake by leaving Gmail?
Not because Gmail is perfect—but because we may know even less about the alternatives.
Many people are switching to smaller email providers for privacy. But how do we know they'll still exist in a few years, won't be acquired by companies we don't trust, or won't change their business model?
Are we reducing long-term risk, or just replacing one uncertainty with another?
Should long-term stability matter as much as privacy when choosing an email provider?
How do you evaluate whether a provider is a good long-term choice?
ps .I've stopped using Gmail for communication but kept the account active, and I've opened accounts with three alternatives. I just don't like the thought of having to move again if one disappears, gets acquired, or changes course.
Signal vs Session vs Briar vs SimpleX vs XMPP vs Matrix for Security & Privacy Nerds
Think of messaging apps like transportation:
Signal = a modern Volvo with airbags everywhere.
SimpleX = an unmarked van with no license plate.
Session = a ghost car that somehow isn't registered anywhere.
Briar = an off-road vehicle that keeps going after the apocalypse.
Matrix = a customizable camper van you built yourself.
XMPP = a classic Land Rover maintained by enthusiasts who own soldering irons.
The "Would I Recommend This To My Cousin?" Table
| App | Security | Privacy | Anonymity | Ease of Use | "Will My Friends Install It?" |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Signal | xxxxx | xxxx | xx | xxxxx | xxxxx |
| SimpleX | xxxxx | xxxxx | xxxxx | xxx | xx |
| Session | xxxx | xxxxx | xxxxx | xxx | xx |
| Briar | xxxx | xxxxx | xxxx | x | x |
| Matrix | xxx | xxx | xxx | xxx | xxx |
| XMPP | xxx | xxx | xxx | xx | x |
Why privacy extremists complain? x Phone number required x Centralized infrastructure x Not designed for anonymity
summary Signal is the student who: locks their laptop, uses a password manager, updates their software, and actually reads the privacy policy. Boring Maybe. Effective Absolutely.
summary SimpleX is the person who: pays cash, wears sunglasses indoors, deletes browser history before opening the browser, and somehow still has fewer privacy leaks than everyone else.
summary Session is that friend who refuses to tell anyone their real name and somehow survives entirely on encrypted communications and energy drinks.
summary Briar is the app equivalent of: > "The internet is down." And Briar replies: > "I didn't hear no bell."
summary Matrix is basically: > "Would you like a messaging app?" "No." > "Would you like an entire communications infrastructure?" "YES."
summary XMPP is the Linux desktop of messaging. People who love it really love it. People who don't understand it wonder why there are seventeen different clients and forty-seven different ways to send "hello".
Security & Privacy View
If someone asked: "I just want secure messaging." x Signal "I want privacy from everyone." x SimpleX "I don't want my identity attached." x Session "What if the government shuts down the internet?" x Briar "I want my own server." x Matrix or XMPP "I enjoy spending Saturday nights configuring federation settings." x Matrix "I enjoy spending entire weekends configuring federation settings." x XMPP
Brutally Practical Ranking 1 Signal The app you'll actually get people to use. 2 SimpleX The privacy nerd favorite. 3 Session The anonymity favorite. 4 Matrix Great if you're joining communities or running servers. 5 Briar Amazing for specific threat models. 6 XMPP Excellent technology. Terrible answer to: > "Can we just make a group chat?"
One-Sentence Verdict If you're an average privacy-conscious person: install Signal first, keep SimpleX as your privacy-focused backup, and learn about Briar, Matrix, and XMPP only if your interests or threat model genuinely require them.
Or put another way:
Signal = normal smart person.
SimpleX = privacy smart person.
Session = anonymous smart person.
Briar = apocalypse smart person.
Matrix = infrastructure smart person.
XMPP = "I have a home server and opinions" smart person.
updated with reference links
No idea I am afraid, please feel free to share any details you could have other that https://simplifiedprivacy.com/messengers/
https://stateofsurveillance.org/guides/basic/secure-messaging-comparison/
https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/which-private-messaging-communication-app-is-best/23335
https://meshworld.in/blog/privacy/private-messengers-comparison/ https://dasroot.net/posts/2025/12/encrypted-messaging-signal-matrix-session-simplex/
Please feel free to add any other info you could hold onto
Deep, reality-based comparison of FUTO Keyboard vs HeliBoard focused on actual long-term user experience, privacy, typing quality, customization, development direction, and practical tradeoffs.
---
# Executive Summary
| If you want... | Better choice |
| ------------------------------------------------- | ------------------------------------- |
| Maximum privacy + true FOSS purity | HeliBoard |
| Best offline voice typing | FUTO Keyboard |
| More polished modern UX | FUTO Keyboard |
| Lightweight/stable/traditional typing | HeliBoard |
| Better customization | HeliBoard |
| Better built-in swipe typing | FUTO Keyboard (but controversial) |
| Better swipe accuracy overall | HeliBoard + proprietary glide library |
| Most mature daily driver | HeliBoard |
| Closest to Gboard replacement | FUTO Keyboard |
| Most trustworthy licensing/open-source philosophy | HeliBoard |
---
# Philosophy Difference
| Area | FUTO Keyboard | HeliBoard |
| ---------------------------------- | --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | ------------------------------------ |
| Core philosophy | “Modern keyboard without surveillance” | “Privacy-first open-source keyboard” |
| Main goal | Replace Gboard functionality offline | Replace proprietary keyboards safely |
| Approach | Feature-rich | Lean/minimalist |
| License | Source-available FUTO license (not fully FOSS by FSF standards) | GPL fully open-source |
| Privacy stance | Strong privacy focus but pragmatic | Extremely strict privacy ideology |
| Internet permissions | Historically included for updater/crash reporting ([Privacy Guides Community][1]) | Usually no network behavior at all |
| Community trust among FOSS purists | Mixed | Very high |
---
# Comprehensive Feature Comparison
| Feature | FUTO Keyboard | HeliBoard |
| --------------------------- | -------------------------- | ---------------------------------------------------------- |
| Offline typing | Yes | Yes |
| Offline autocorrect | Yes | Yes |
| Offline prediction | Yes | Yes |
| Offline voice typing | Excellent built-in feature | No native equivalent |
| Swipe typing included | Yes built-in | No (requires external proprietary library) ([Fed Dyne][2]) |
| Emoji support | Good | Good |
| Clipboard tools | Basic | Good |
| Themes | Modern Material-style | Extensive customization |
| Gesture controls | Good | Excellent |
| Multilingual support | Improving | Mature |
| Custom layouts | Moderate | Extensive |
| Stability | Improving but alpha-ish | Stable |
| Performance on older phones | Sometimes heavier | Usually lighter |
| RAM usage | Higher | Lower |
| Battery impact | Slightly higher | Lower |
| F-Droid availability | Usually not official | Yes |
| Community ecosystem | Growing | Mature niche FOSS community |
| Development speed | Fast/aggressive | Steady |
---
# Typing Experience (MOST IMPORTANT)
## Raw Typing Accuracy
| Area | Winner |
| ----------------------- | ------------------- |
| Tap typing consistency | HeliBoard |
| Prediction quality | Slight edge to FUTO |
| Autocorrect reliability | Mixed |
| Learning adaptation | HeliBoard |
| “Feels polished” | FUTO |
| “Feels dependable” | HeliBoard |
---
# Real User Experience — Positive & Negative
# FUTO Keyboard — Positive Experiences
| Positive Experience | Details |
| ------------------------------------------------- | -------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| Offline voice typing is genuinely impressive | Many users say it’s the first privacy keyboard that feels futuristic |
| Closest thing to private Gboard | Includes swipe, prediction, voice, modern UI |
| Modern design | Users frequently prefer its aesthetics |
| Ambitious development | Rapid updates and visible innovation |
| Good for de-Googling without sacrificing features | Major appeal |
| Strong privacy mission | Entire product direction is anti-surveillance |
| Integrated experience | No need for external glide library |
| Good autocorrect for some users | Some report better predictions than HeliBoard |
| Strong momentum | Growing enthusiast community |
Examples from users:
* “FUTO looks promising.” ([Reddit][3])
* “Better autocorrect than HeliBoard.” ([Fed Dyne][4])
* “Voice typing is amazing.” ([Reddit][5])
---
# FUTO Keyboard — Negative Experiences
| Negative Experience | Details |
| -------------------------------- | ---------------------------------------------- |
| Swipe typing criticism is severe | Most common complaint |
| Alpha-quality feeling | Bugs still noticeable |
| Autocorrect inconsistency | Can be excellent or terrible depending on user |
| Heavy feeling | Some users report lag/sluggishness |
| Missed gestures | Swipe often fails unusual word paths |
| Double typing bugs | Reported by some users |
| Licensing controversy | Not fully open-source by strict definitions |
| Prediction instability | Sometimes bizarre word choices |
| Learning system immature | Not yet near Gboard quality |
| Occasional crashes | Still under active stabilization |
Real examples:
* “Swipe typing is genuinely awful.” ([Reddit][5])
* “Worst user experience I’ve had in the FOSS world.” ([Reddit][6])
* “Not nearly as good” as HeliBoard glide typing. ([Reddit][7])
* Some users call it “alpha” quality repeatedly. ([Mudita Forum][8])
---
# HeliBoard — Positive Experiences
| Positive Experience | Details |
| ---------------------------------------- | ----------------------------- |
| Extremely stable | Rarely crashes |
| Lightweight/fast | Feels responsive |
| Highly customizable | Major strength |
| Strong FOSS credibility | Fully open-source |
| Trusted by privacy community | Very respected |
| Good multilingual support | Mature dictionaries |
| Excellent with external glide library | Can become extremely accurate |
| Predictable behavior | Less experimental |
| Better long-term daily-driver reputation | Reliable |
| Works well on weak devices | Efficient |
Users repeatedly describe it as:
* “Great”
* “Stellar”
* “Reliable”
* “Privacy-respecting” ([Kvibber][9])
---
# HeliBoard — Negative Experiences
| Negative Experience | Details |
| ------------------------------------------ | ------------------------------------ |
| Built-in swipe typing absent | Biggest weakness |
| Requires proprietary blob for glide typing | Philosophical contradiction for some |
| UI less modern | Can feel dated |
| Less “smart” feeling | Compared to Gboard/FUTO |
| Prediction quality still imperfect | Common criticism |
| Learning mistakes persist | Sometimes memorizes typos |
| Voice typing absent | Major gap |
| Less beginner-friendly | Many settings |
| Setup complexity | Glide typing setup annoys users |
| Fewer ambitious AI-style features | More conservative roadmap |
Examples:
* “Learning is pretty bad.” ([Reddit][10])
* “Doesn’t support swipe typing” (without manual setup). ([Reddit][3])
* “Pain” to configure for some users. ([Fed Dyne][4])
---
# Privacy Comparison
| Privacy Area | Better Choice | Why |
| ------------------------------------- | ------------- | ------------------------ |
| Fully open-source transparency | HeliBoard | GPL licensed |
| No network behavior | HeliBoard | Extremely strict |
| Offline voice typing | FUTO | Unique feature |
| Data collection concerns | HeliBoard | Simpler architecture |
| Trust among FOSS activists | HeliBoard | No licensing controversy |
| Practical privacy + usability balance | FUTO | More mainstream-friendly |
---
# Swipe Typing Reality Check
This is the most controversial area.
## FUTO Swipe Typing
### Pros
* Built in
* Easy to use
* Ambitious AI approach
* No external blobs needed
### Cons
* Many users report catastrophic inaccuracies
* Strange word predictions
* Inconsistent gesture recognition
* Sometimes ignores input entirely
Multiple users explicitly state:
* Gboard is dramatically better
* HeliBoard + glide libs is more accurate ([Reddit][7])
---
## HeliBoard Swipe Typing
### Pros
* Can become highly accurate
* Mature underlying glide library
* Some users call it “stellar”
### Cons
* Requires proprietary Google-derived libraries
* Setup is manual
* Philosophically awkward for privacy purists
---
# Performance & Resource Usage
| Area | Better |
| -------------------- | --------- |
| Battery | HeliBoard |
| Speed | HeliBoard |
| Smoothness | HeliBoard |
| Rich features | FUTO |
| CPU efficiency | HeliBoard |
| Modern UX animations | FUTO |
---
# Future Outlook
| Area | Likely Winner |
| ----------------------------- | ------------- |
| Innovation | FUTO |
| Stability | HeliBoard |
| Enterprise/community trust | HeliBoard |
| Mainstream adoption potential | FUTO |
| Voice AI evolution | FUTO |
| Pure privacy ecosystem | HeliBoard |
---
# Best Use Cases
## Choose FUTO Keyboard if:
* You want offline voice typing
* You miss Gboard features
* You want modern UX
* You accept some instability
* You enjoy bleeding-edge software
* You prioritize convenience + privacy balance
---
## Choose HeliBoard if:
* You want maximum transparency
* You prefer stable predictable typing
* You value customization
* You use older hardware
* You’re a strict FOSS/privacy user
* You don’t care much about voice typing
---
# Reality-Based Final Verdict
| User Type | Best Choice |
| ---------------------------------- | ----------- |
| Hardcore privacy/FOSS user | HeliBoard |
| Average privacy-conscious user | FUTO |
| Ex-Gboard power user | FUTO |
| Reliability-first user | HeliBoard |
| Voice dictation user | FUTO |
| Minimalist user | HeliBoard |
| Tinkerers/customizers | HeliBoard |
| “I want modern features privately” | FUTO |
---
# The Honest Long-Term Situation
Right now:
* HeliBoard feels more mature, stable, and trustworthy.
* FUTO Keyboard feels more ambitious, modern, and potentially the future.
But many experienced users still conclude:
* HeliBoard = safer daily driver
* FUTO = exciting but not fully mature yet
The strongest hybrid setup mentioned repeatedly by advanced users is:
* HeliBoard for typing
* FUTO voice input for dictation ([Fed Dyne][4])
Useful official resources:
* [FUTO Keyboard Official Docs](https://docs.keyboard.futo.org/about?utm\_source=chatgpt.com)
* [FUTO Keyboard Official Site](https://keyboard.futo.org?utm\_source=chatgpt.com)
* [HeliBoard GitHub](https://github.com/Helium314/HeliBoard?utm\_source=chatgpt.com)
[1]: https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/futo-keyboard/18896?utm_source=chatgpt.com "FUTO Keyboard - Tool Suggestions - Privacy Guides Community"
[2]: https://fed.dyne.org/post/183552/789183?utm\_source=chatgpt.com "FUTO Keyboard - Offline, privacy respecting, and speech to text - fed.dyne.org"
[3]: https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/1gustrw?utm_source=chatgpt.com "FOSS Keyboard options for Android?"
[4]: https://fed.dyne.org/post/183552?utm\_source=chatgpt.com "FUTO Keyboard - Offline, privacy respecting, and speech to text - fed.dyne.org"
[5]: https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/1dsz1e6/futo_keyboard_is_good_but_not_good_enough/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "FUTO Keyboard is good, but not good enough."
[6]: https://www.reddit.com/r/degoogle/comments/1puh0pg/keyboard_with_a_builtin_swipetotext_feature/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Keyboard with a built-in swipe-to-text feature"
[7]: https://www.reddit.com/r/foss/comments/1n3c0q0/heliboard_vs_futo_keyboard/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Heliboard vs FUTO keyboard"
[8]: https://forum.mudita.com/t/futo-keyboard-review-by-essateg/14165?utm_source=chatgpt.com "FUTO Keyboard review by essateg - Community Apps - Mudita Forum. A Community of Minimalist Technology Enthusiasts"
[9]: https://kvibber.com/reviews/apps/heliboard/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "HeliBoard - Review"
[10]: https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/1g8stbi?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Privacy Keyboard"
How can I stop being Asked to confirm the default launcher?
Android 11
I confirmed ok, but still asks me to confirm few times a day