I went to two stylists, one ID’d me as a SG and the other stylist said I was an Ingenue.
I’m under the impression that these are two different systems and hence the different classification?
I’ve recently met another 12th house Sun like myself and find it such a mirror and yet at the same time like a thick fog of inability to define how they feel or where we are at. It’s like meeting a foggy mirror.
First chart is Natal, second chart is the Solar Return for the year I had a stroke.
-Natal 8th House is the SR Asc
-6th house stellium in the Solar Return
-☿ Mercury ruler of the mind is □ Pluto which is in the 3rd, also a house of the mind/brain.
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I’ve used this site for their card combination interpretations for years. So far it’s been down for maintenance close to on a week now.
Anyone have any idea what’s going on ?
Hello guys, I’m making quite a bold observation based on the 3 Gemini risings I have in my life, both men and women-
They’re all quite short 5’4-5’6.
Any Gemini risings out there or friends of yours who you can say the same about ?
It was Carl jungs 38th year when he has a successful career, a family and walked away from it all…
(Pictured abode was his 38th year and transits at the time)
His colleagues called it a breakdown.
Freud, his mentor turned rival, predicted he'd destroy himself. Jung stopped publishing,stopped lecturing,
stopped seeing most patients.
For years, he barely existed in public.
What he was doing instead: painting mandalas in a leather-bound book. Having conversations with figures he'd later name Philemon and Salome. Descending into his own psyche, night after night, recording everything he found. (Talk about a Transit of ♆ on his ☉ and Pluto approaching his natal Mercury)
He later wrote that there were times he feared for his own sanity. The visions were overwhelming. He had no framework for what was happening because the framework didn't exist yet.
He was building it.
(TR Neptune applying ☌ to his Sun) From those years came the shadow.
The collective unconscious.
Archetypes. Individuation. Every major idea Jung is remembered for was born in the period his colleagues believed was his undoing.
What looked like falling apart from the outside was the most generative period of his life. He couldn't see it from inside. Nobody could. The work that would reshape psychology for a century looked, in real time, like a man losing his grip.
If you're in your own version of this right now. The fog. The questioning. (♆ Neptune) The part where nothing looks like progress and the people around you are worried. Jung's story says something simple: the descent is where the real work lives.
The Crisis: At age 38 (around 1913/1914), shortly after breaking away from his mentor Sigmund Freud, Jung started an intentional "confrontation with the unconscious" to explore his personal mythology and archetypes.
Due to the fact that this lasted for 16 years and his “Redbook” was only published posthumously in 2009, it’s a heck of a lot of Solar Returns to look at so I refrained. Instead I looked to the two slowest moving transiting planets; Neptune and Pluto.
These are his Transits for his 38th year…
•Kicking it off he has a year of TR ♃ in the 12th of collective unconscious.
• He had TR ♆ applying to ☌ his ☉ (so dissolution of the ego and the most fitting planet to discover archetypes, imagination and abstract symbolism)
•TR Pluto was applying and building up to ☌ his Natal ☿. (You don’t get more Psychological than that)
I’m aware we look to ☉ for father and ☽ for mother in a day chart. In a night chart we look to Saturn and ♀ for relationship with them.
What I wonder is with absenteeism of a father and mother figure (☉ or ♄ / ☽ ♀ in the 12th)
They say we choose our parents before birth and I’m aware that traditionalists believed we looked to these planets to assess overall quality of life and success.
* In what way would having an absent mother of father contribute to a person’s abilities, gifts and strengths and ultimately assist/ serve a person fulfil their life path?
Eg: an absent mother or father represented by the twelfth contributes to their ability to be alone and therefore this causes them to be able to study in depth 12th house topics. (If the planet in 12th has good dignity)
Edit:
some wonderful responses however, I’m not after birth chart placements & correlating parental relationship dynamics. My question is in bold & italic above *
Parts of a letter received from an ex, which correlates to many of us with 12th placements: (my ☉ & ☿ in 12th)
“I’m also not sure without you I would have dived into the depths of self-reflection as I have and explored who I am.
You have taught me so much—it’s hard to fathom how someone your age knows what you know—You are so smart—not just clever, that’s an insult—but intelligent, intellectual, well read. You’re an artist. Your hand is an instrument of your mind, and your ability to create is a gift. I can’t think that there’s anything that you wouldn’t be able to do.
As time has gone on, I’ve begun to realize that you have had a lifetime of disappointment in ways I don’t think I will ever fully understand.
You will always be that window into another world.”
Hello Community,
I’d like to put together some posts and videos on other platforms about all I’ve learnt in the last 7 years of reading this spread.
There seems to be a few articles online describing the basics of the seven columns and three rows but nothing truly enlightening or practical.
Anyone interested in this spread style and what questions do you have about it?
This would greatly help in my informational posts and videos I’ll be putting together.
Thank you.
Edit: since posting all I’ve been asked is for free readings. Please contribute to this post and questions asked or do not message at all.
Hello Community,
I’d like to put together some posts and videos on other platforms about all I’ve learnt in the last 7 years of reading this spread.
There seems to be a few articles online describing the basics of the seven columns and three rows but nothing truly enlightening or practical.
Anyone interested in this spread style and what questions do you have about it?
This would greatly help in my informational posts and videos I’ll be putting together.
Thank you.
I was involved in a bad car accident when I was 9 y/o, Mom was driving and she had her legs trapped in the steel, broken glass everywhere.
I’ve driven a handful of times in my life & come from a country where having a car and driving is ESSENTIAL. Yet I don’t.
I’m aware with my 12th ☉ + ☿ I get easily overstimulated; I am super sensitive to Sounds, bright lights, smells thirdly and textures (perhaps my ♉️ Rising)
♃ in my 3rd may have something to do with it. Maybe a forewarning I’ve always known deep down as that ♃ is connected to the 12th. 🔪
Hello community,
I did a reading for someone 8 months ago and they didn’t pay me. I didn’t bring it up again with them.
This week they reach out for another reading and I’m stupid enough to do it before receiving payment. I don’t have this issues with other clients. They actually insist on paying beforehand.
I’ve sent her my PayPal details, she’s responded about not having PayPal so needing my bank details and here I sit- no payment.
I’m not one to get mean or beg for money but this has happened twice and now it seems this is intentional.
I spend hours analysing my readings using the 21 Card Romany Spread, it’s not something I do on the spot that takes me 10 minutes.
What can I say this time round to be kind but stern about payment ?
It’s so incredibly frustrating.
I’ve been interested in studying the chart for Japan in an attempt to find signifiers for its Loneliness Pandemic.
Japan may be the canary in the coal mine for an epidemic of loneliness. So entrenched is its people's social isolation that a lexicon for it has been spawned - words for degrees of disconnection, vanishing from society and dying alone and undiscovered.
This is not easy as it is such an ancient country shrouded in layers of dynasties and many founding eras of sovereignty, liberty etc
I found the only chart online at first dig to be fascinatingly accurate and it clearly depicts themes of isolation. (Chart on astrotheme)
There are two accurate astrology charts for Japan.
The first is set for 3rd May 1947 at 12.00 LMT in Tokyo.
The second is set for 28th April 1952 at 1.30pm GMT in Tokyo.
The source is “The Book of World Horoscopes” by Nicholas Campion, The Wessex Astrologer 2004.
36 and I’ve been self-studying Astrology for the last 15 years. I’m genuinely concerned as I’ve got Saturn who’s currently right over my Sun as well as Pluto which will be closing conjunct over my Moon and Aqua Stellium.
By the time Saturn is done with my Sun he’ll be going over my Asc while Pluto will still be over my Moon/stellium. I feel this is a deadly combination for my physical body/ “my vessel”. (moon + Asc)
Has anyone physically (health-wise) made it out of the transit of 2 such major malefics over such personal and pivotal points?
The rest is not a necessary read but does give more info:
I’m noticing my vitality diminish as well as severe depression at its peak now. My nervous system is taking quite a knock and I find myself unable to keep up with the demands of sustaining my job as well as the basics of normal day to day life. I lost my Father last year August and my mom is also getting on in her age.
My Solar Returns for 2028 does back up/ reinforce the concern of these transits and much of my suspicions and worries via health and morbidity.
I’ve been working 5 months in hospitality.
We work 6 weeks (42 days)
on and have 2 weeks off and it’s killing me. After 5 months I’m missing most meals (due to being so frantically busy) I’m skinny as it is.
I worked 10 weeks with four days off in between before this recent six week cycle and am so tired. I can’t even emote when around guests anymore.
My problem is, my leave is coming up but I need to get off property 1 week early for my mental and physical health.
I don’t think the company would buy that and they may deem me as weak going forward. I don’t want to lie either and say it’s due to a bodily ailment else I’d have to prove that too via doctor’s note. I don’t want to lose my job I’m just so burnt out.
I don’t know what to do?
A year ago I came across descriptions online of the Major Arcana cards as actual people. It was very practical and mundane and I started writing it down at the time however I only got half way.
I cannot for the life of me find the site or online book I got the descriptions from, even after Googling the descriptions verbatim. It’s so frustrating.
I now think it was some online PDF and that’s why word search on Google isnt aiding in my search. The descriptions are as follows:
The Fool: “newborn, baby, people starting something new, the dreamer, the innocent, the explorer, traveller, backpacker, inexperienced, someone young.”
High Priestess:
“A girl, sister, single woman, virgin, a person who wants love without seggs, clairvoyant, spiritualist, intuitive, secret keeper, person who understands inner activities of the problem, person of rank”