r/Advancedastrology

Is the Lot of fortune luck or just fortune (good or bad)?

I want to understand it more because although I read that it represents luck, like in the book I'm reading, it says

"In natal representation, the Lot of Fortune indicates an area of life where accidental good fortune and happiness may come by means of luck or chance, rather than by an individual's own actions and intent" - Astrology and the authentic self by Demetra George

But when I read it on my chart and my friend's charts it's always on the messiest places. For example, mine is in 10th and I've been unemployed for most part of my life because the majority don't even call me for an interview.

Friend A has it in her 7th house, she is in this relationship where they breakup at least 4 times a year. Friend B wants that specific dream job but he can't pursue it and he is miserable at every job he has. Friend C has in his 6th house and he gets extremely sick for minor reasons like a light rain or different food. I could go on but I think you can understand by now.

So, this is the opposite of what I'm reading. I would like other professionals' perspective and understand it better. Thank you!

Just to clarify, this is not a personal reading request, it's just to clarify why the difference between what I read and real life experience

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u/Adorable_Unit5132 — 10 hours ago

What is the explanation for when you see a planet in a sign in the night sky but a chart shows it to be occupying a different sign?

Forgive me if this is a little convoluted, I am just trying to understand transits vs the observable night sky.

Walking at night I have been seeing Jupiter in the constellation Gemini, and the moon and Venus next to each other. I was curious to see what that meant and looked up the transits. However, It is showing Jupiter in cancer, not gemini, but when I look at the sky Jupiter is quite clearly beside the stars castor and pollux.

1st question: is there a term for this when the observed sky is different than the chart?

  1. What is it called when looking at the sky you can see the “line” of planets : say, the moon, jupiter and venus but on the chart it does not show or explain them that way (they aren’t conjunct or aspecting each other, yet in the sky they look significant and in a line).

  2. is there a term for a star that is at the very center overhead during a given time and place? I was told the midheaven is the calculation of the sun and the latitude and the highest point of the suns arcs in that given location; not necessarily the exact overhead point. I would be interested to hear what a star or planet loacted directly overhead at a specific time and place would be called; if it has significant meaning or a name in astrology. For example in sailing stars are used to navigate by keeping a particular one right overhead to arrive at precise coordinates.

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u/Glittering-Craft7163 — 13 hours ago

Astrology appears too consistently coherent to dismiss outright and too enigmatic to accept uncritically.

I’m still at a beginner level with astrology, but I’ve gone far enough into it to see there’s something deeper going on than just basic horoscope descriptions, and now I’m really interested in hearing from people who actually understand it on a more advanced level and think about it seriously. I’m not looking for surface explanations, I want to understand how you personally relate to astrology through your own experience and how it’s shaped the way you see people and patterns in life.I’m especially interested in the philosophy behind it and the different ways experienced people interpret it, whether that’s symbolic, psychological, archetypal, spiritual, or something else entirely, and how that understanding has evolved over time into something that feels meaningful, useful, or real in your own life.Basically, I’m trying to go beyond the basics and hear from people who have really sat with this system and developed their own deeper perspective on what it’s actually pointing toward.

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u/Responsible_Deal_508 — 24 hours ago

When the Saturn return goes exact by degree

How do you all interpret degrees when it comes to a Saturn return?

In terms of the overall story unfolding, what is the significance of the return going exact by degree? If any?

I'm trying to improve my transit interpretation and I still don't quite understand what it means.

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u/luv1997 — 18 hours ago

Would you guys be interested in what UFO/high-strangeness charts have taught me about astrology?

I've been specializing in the charts of people who claim to have had UFO or high-strangeness experiences for about a year now, and I've been comparing their charts to the charts of publicly documented UFO events. I guess it's a strange hobby.

I don't want to piss-off your awesome sub, some subs are tough crowds for these findings. Some people are really scared of these kinds of things. I really don't want to deal with hate and fear, so I am treading carefully.

So before I make a big thread about what I've learned I just want to see if that's something you guys would be interested in talking about and if the mods would allow it, or if it would be considered off topic or self promoting

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u/Julian_Thorne — 24 hours ago

Take on the ClearerThinking study?

I’m a Hellenistic astrologer, and I came across that ClearerThinking test where 12 people described their lives and 152 astrologers had to take a 12 question multiple choice test to match each chart to its owner. They did very poorly, and the results said that no level of astrological expertise demonstrated better odds than somebody guessing.

I already have an issue with the premise of the study from the jump. Who were these astrologers? Where were they selected from? On top of that, as traditional practitioners, we constantly have to remind clients they’re not omniscient and their charts will include many aspects of their live that they are wrong (or at least oblivious) about. So basing a study on a native’s own recollection of their life and personality is already a shaky foundation to build on.

But just so I know that I’m not being nitpicky, I wanted to here your takes on the study. Will you proceed with conviction in your craft despite its results, and why?

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u/StringIntelligent655 — 2 days ago

Did yall spouse match your 7 house or 7 Th lord ?

For those who are married or in long-term partnerships, how accurately did your birth chart predict your spouse? Did they match the general description of your 7th house sign/planets, or did they align more specifically with your 7th lord's placement? Let me know your placements and how they played out

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u/Responsible-Cost2993 — 2 days ago

can you use modern orbs for aspects in hellenistic astrology?

I really like hellenistic astrology but I struggle with the idea of aspects being sign based instead of orb/degree based. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me that it wouldn't be precise but I want to use the correct way. Thank you

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u/Sad_Measurement2174 — 2 days ago

3rd house being medical procedures?

As we all know about the 9th/3rd house axis, is that the 9th house rules over our beliefs, morals, faiths, and knowledges. The 3rd house is when you put those things to work.

The 9th house is the knowledge of fortune telling, the 3rd house is divination.

The 9th house is christianity, the 3rd house is christian prayer.

The 9th house is knowledge of history, the 3rd house can be writing a history book.

Since the 9th house is knowledge entirely, which can include scientific, analytical, psychological and even health related knowledges(especially because of its association with college) The 3rd house can be putting your psychology degree or health knowledges to work. So I feel like medical procedures can show up here. Ive never seen someone else say this so I wanted other opinions on this take.

My sister has scoliosis and may need surgery. And her 3rd house ruler is in the 8th house, and the 8th house is specifically surgeries. Plus, the ruler is mars which represents surgeries. This is why I wonder if there is a correlation of some kind.

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u/Cold_Swing2731 — 2 days ago

Neptune in Aries and Cultural Eras

I was analyzing the history of European culture through Neptune in Aries (and I also included Neptune in Scorpio as part of the picture), and here’s what came out of it.

Neptune in Aries occurred in the following past periods (in parentheses are the corresponding Neptune in Scorpio periods, which happen about 70 years earlier), along with the beginnings of the cultural eras that these positions seem to have triggered:

  1. 1861–1875 — Impressionism, new art (1791–1805 — French Revolution)
  2. 1697–1711 — The Enlightenment (1628–1642 — Scientific Revolution)
  3. 1534–1548 — Mannerism (1464–1478 — Printing Revolution)
  4. 1370–1384 — The Renaissance (1300–1314 — Humanist Revolution)

I didn’t look further back — maybe I should have — but cultural phenomena tend to spread out over time, and I suspect it would have been harder to see anything concentrated.

I know there will be objections about the exact boundaries of cultural periods. There’s also another complication: Neptune in Scorpio prepares the new era that fully arrives with Neptune in Aries, which means many elements of the coming era already appear in the interval between Scorpio and Aries.

Still, I think this kind of periodization looks interesting, because it really does line up with important turning points in Western culture. If anyone’s curious, I can go into more detail about my reasoning and why these particular eras and periods matter. I could also try to imagine what the next new era might be.

Upd: Neptune in Aries is only the beginning of an era, and the era itself lasts until the next Neptune in Aries, that is, 165 years. The Renaissance, the Mannerism/Baroque, the Enlightenment, and Modern Art—these are all long eras.

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u/Lonely_Cut9453 — 2 days ago

Are there any astrologers out there with in-depth experience of the Kalachakra astrology?

I've been interested in the Kalachakra astrology for quite some time, but it's really hard to find reliable in-depth sources to understand how it works.

Does anyone know any astrologer who is willing to teach or explain this, or maybe even courses on it?

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u/fabkosta — 2 days ago

Your 10th house lord predicts your career better than the 10th house itself. Most readings get this backwards.

Standard career reading: look at what's in the 10th, build a story around it.

What most readings miss: the lord of the 10th the ruler of whatever sign sits on your 10th house cusp is doing more career work than anything actually inside the 10th.

Cap MC? Saturn is your career lord. Wherever Saturn sits is where your career energy actually lives. Saturn in your 6th = career built through daily work, service, health-adjacent fields regardless of what's in your 10th.

Pisces MC? Neptune (or Jupiter, traditional) is your career lord. In the 12th = work behind the scenes. In the 9th = teach, publish, travel. Completely different lives.

The 10th tells you the destination. The 10th lord tells you the road there.

I've seen people with empty 10th houses build huge careers because their 10th lord was beautifully placed. And people with 10th house stelliums stall out because their 10th lord is debilitated.

How do you weight the 10th lord equal to the 10th, or more?

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u/KaleidoscopeIcy3658 — 3 days ago

Taoist polar astrology

I noticed that most posts here are about horoscopic astrology. Anyone interested in discussing Taoist polar astrology topics? It's fascinating system that does not use the horoscope, but instead uses fixed stars near the polar region as well as the near the galactic center. It's quite different from mainstream Western astrology I know, but I thought in a way it also could serve as a great complement to horoscopic astrology.

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u/Key-Risk-555 — 2 days ago

If you have an 8th house stellium, here's what living with it actually feels like.

Online 8th house content is mostly "intensity, transformation, sexuality." Cute. The lived experience is rougher and more specific.

You can't do small talk. Not "don't enjoy" literally can't. Within five minutes you're asking strangers about their parents. People either love this or are repelled.

Your relationships are either devastating or transactional. Almost no in-between. You don't do casual. People who are meant to know you recognize you immediately.

You've already done your first death. Whether literal (near-miss, illness) or metaphorical (identity collapse, major loss). You don't fear endings because something has already ended you once.

Money and intimacy are the same body part for you. They move together. Either flowing or completely blocked. Most therapists don't get this.

You hold other people's secrets like nobody else. People feel it. They start telling you things in the first conversation. You don't even try.

If this is your chart what's the thing nobody warns you about that you wish someone had?

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u/KaleidoscopeIcy3658 — 3 days ago

8th house, inheritance, and rebirth

In my experience, the 8th house is of course a very private house that values sovereignty highly. But why is this? 8th house people seem to start in life more than others by inheriting, subconsciously*, t*he family dynamics and emotional complexes. This happens to everyone, obviously, but the 8th house's relationship to this fact is different somehow. Inheritance plays a large role in this house and it very much is psychic (in a literal psyche sense) contents from the family and immediate circle at the beginning of life. 8th house people are batteries that become filled with both negative and positive shadow aspects of their environment. The first "rebirth" is the flushing out of foreign influence, IMO. Its very much a house of merging, and this usually is automatic and to the detriment of the native. In other words, 8th house people need sovereignty so deeply becauee they can't help but automatically take on hidden and charged unconscious content. A big focus is on taking the first shadow shit of their life.

This is my working concept on this aspect of the 8th house, as someone with Sun + Moon and Uranus in this placement. Thoughts?

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u/PoetryWestern9071 — 4 days ago

Astrology - Empty houses

I have a question about interpreting empty houses in a natal chart and want to make sure I understand the correct approach.
When a house has no planets, my understanding is that we look at the ruling planet of that house to understand its influences. But I'm unclear on which ruler to prioritise:

Option A: The Cusp Ruler (personal to the chart): Look at whichever sign falls on the cusp of that empty house, find its ruling planet, and interpret the house themes through that planet's placement.

Example: If someone's 7th house is empty but has Gemini on the cusp, we'd look to Mercury (Gemini's ruler) and read 7th house themes through Mercury's sign, house, and aspects.

Option B: The Natural Ruler (universal): Look at the sign and planet that naturally rule that house, regardless of what sign is on the cusp in the person's chart.

Example: The 7th house is naturally ruled by Libra and Venus, so we'd look at where Venus falls in the person's chart.

Or is it both? Are these two layers that work together in interpretation?

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u/Spiritual-Video-2356 — 5 days ago

Electional astrology on investment

When you find a fortunate day for investing via electional astrology, what does it mean more specifically? Is it that the day when you actually transfer the money or is it a day when you set things in motion (fx file a request for opening a investment account with subsequent money transfers)❓txn in advance for all clarifications. :)

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u/Careful-Annual-7966 — 4 days ago