u/Aggressive_Equal1923

I used to be really passionate about things like the environment, animal rights and feminism, but after ruminating and having bad experiences with people I thought were good and on my side, It just started to become meaningless. Trying to do the right thing was stressful, isolating and punishing, and wasn't even making an impact anyway. I now feel so silly having tried so hard to be selfish for animals that don’t have morals or don’t care anyway. I feel embarrassed holding such high regard for the opinions of unpleasant, obnoxious people who would sacrifice me to save a rat. it was very exhausting being scrutinized for tiny mistakes whilst everyone else was being hypocritical as well.

I remember a while ago I was in an icecream shop with my family. I wanted to get vegan icecream, but the only flavor option was chocolate which i didn't want. It really made me think because i had learned that chocolate is almost ALWAYS made with slave labor, so i still wouldn't have been consuming ethically anyway. It really made me realize how meaningless and arbitrary It all was.

there is really no such thing as ethical consumption. Im seriously tired of being made to feel guilt and losing luxuries over things that don’t actually have an effect or benefit to my life anyway. have you seen nature? if we had to destroy forest, milk cows and test on animals so i can live in a house, be comfortable, healthy and fed then so be it. I feel so much better being a terrible person who does not care and keeps to themself.

Also I missed real icecream so much lmao.

I used to watch true crime as a teenager, though as a became more feminist in my early 20s, i stopped watching because it pisses me off. why? the never ending excuses for the men.

why are evil men allowed to have some sympathetic villain backstory explained to people whenever they do something horrible? and it’s always something stupid like “his parents divorced! his parents disciplined him in a way that was the norm at the time!!! thats totally why he raped and killed underaged girls and not because he was a degenerate with a torture fetish!!”

lots of these men have sisters raised in the same or worse conditions who did not go on to do something terrible.

think about the Uvalde school shooting. the man who did it had a sister who grew up in the same house as him, yet she grew up to join the U.S. navy whilst he grew up to kill toddlers for attention.

I could spend all week talking about the way school shooters are treated by the media. The way the media blames the shooters school peers for having the audacity of not wanting to be friends with these boys who are often creepy, or blaming the mom and 10 therapist they had for not spending every second of their life coddling some psychopathic lost cause.

I believe vegans are hurting their own cause by having unrealistic and impossible demands. So many people have an all or nothing mentality, and it seriously put me off from the community and I decided to stay away from it do what I think is both best for animals whilst also being realistic and not sabotaging my health. I don’t buy meat from pigs or cows or dairy, but I do still eat pasture raised chicken, fish, eggs, honey and clams as that was what was easiest for me to do. I believe 90% of people going 50% of the way would be better than only 1% of people going 100% of the way. I managed to get my parents to start purchasing pasture raised meat and eggs as much as possible and that is a win in my eyes but if I was still in the vegan community, they would rip me a new asshole for not convincing 5 different people to go vegan instead.

Vegans want everyone to go vegan, or to abolish animal agriculture, but that is literally impossible as of now. unless lab grown meat somehow becomes cheaper and more appealing, it’s never going away. It would be way easier to convince people to buy chicken meat that was pasture raised than to make them adapt an unnatural diet.

vegans are not honest about how difficult or expensive it is to be vegan or the health problems. all humans are omnivores, but how well you adapt to the vegan diet depends heavily on genetics. it’s not just people with health issues who adapt poorly to it. This is an extreme example but the Inuit cannot absorb omega-3 fatty acids from plants like most because they have adapted to eat an almost 100% all meat diet. Most nutrients are easier to absorb from meat than from plants. in some people, the health issues are instant, but in others it takes a decade. They love bringing up the fact that poor people don’t eat a lot of meat, as if that makes the vegan diet sound appealing at all, as if poor people aren’t known for having health issues and nutritional deficiencies. it’s only cheap if your ok with eating nothing but processed shit, beans and not buying those expensive ass supplements.

Vegans believe that eating clams and honey is just as bad as buying veal from a CAFOs, which is not true at all. I really see no problem with eating honey or bivalves. it’s not much worse than eating plants. i always thought this was kind of a ridiculous and unnecessary complication with the diet lol.

Vegans for some reason expect you to be miserable at family outings. why shouldn’t I eat the salmon my grandma cooked? it’s not like I bought it, and im not going to waste time trying to pointlessly guilt trip my grandma about eating meat when she’s old and wants to just enjoy retirement. the fish is already dead.

Vegans for some reason think humans and animals have equal worth, or even that animals have more worth because “innocence” but I don‘t agree with that and neither does the rest of the sane B12 sufficient populace. i don’t really get what they are trying to accomplish by saying this over and over. like yeah we shouldn’t be torturing animals but humans prioritizing humans over nature and animals is why we live so comfortably, like do they realize they benefit from this also lol. they seem to feel guilt and shame about being a human for some reason and I always thought it was so embarrassing and pathetic. It’s like white guilt but Instead it’s ”human guilt”.

I also really hate the stupid false equivalencies they like to use for arguments. so many animals rights activists or vegans view animals more like babies and not as the animals they are. They love comparing artificial insemination to rape. it is not rape. cows cannot conceptualize rape like humans can i stg lol.

I just think of how beautiful and cinematic David Attenborough films are and think “wow! it’s so sad humans are destroying this!” but then I remember that a lot of stuff gets cut out or shortened. They can show a gazelle dying tragically but “quickly” at the claws of a lion with a circle fo life spin to it or something (giving the gazelles suffering meaning), but they never show the orphaned baby elephant getting eaten alive by lions for hours, or a rabbit trying to run away from weasels with broken legs, or all of the horrifying diseases animals can get, animals bullying others in their species for being different, rape, or animals dying or something stupid for no reason.

I noticed that if something horrifying or brutal happens to be shown, it’s usually something happening to insects, in which most people would struggle to recognize the suffering in anyway(not saying insects don’t suffer, it’s just that It’s socially acceptable to kill bugs, and it’s hard to tell if a bug is suffering due tot he lack of sound or facial expressions most make if you know what I mean sorry if im over explaining lol🫠)

(this is an American centric question)

like, I constantly hear people complaining about babies crying on airplanes, or loud children. If i were to run around screaming in peoples faces, i would get arrested, but I never heard anyone complain and call for bans on those horribly loud modified vehicles that constantly zip through everywhere public. like, a baby crying is annoying but is natural, but those loud ass motorcycles or cars physically hurt my ears and are entirely unnecessary. am I just making false equivalencies or something?