ISO less projected option compared to the panache envy?

I’m pretty new into my brathatfits journey. I got a UK 34E Panache Envy Full Cup, and it fits like a glove. Finally no pain.

That said, the bra makes my chest look like two traffic cones on my frame. There’s SO much projection, and I look very pointy in a way that I hate.

I wear T shirts daily, and I’d like a bra that would make my chest look rounder and closer to my chest wall. Any advice?

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u/AmbitionSuch6319 — 4 days ago

Could someone help me understand where I went wrong with the calculator?

Bras have always been really uncomfortable and sometimes quite painful for me. I’ve been wearing terribly flimsy/thin Walmart “sports bras” for years. They’re hardly bras at all and have almost zero support/lift, but they have never hurt me. For about ten years before that, I occasionally wore a VS DD (don’t remember the band size and I cut the tags off ages ago) but had better sports bras.

When someone on this sub mentioned the Understance closing sale, I got pretty excited to try out some high quality but affordable bras. I live in a rural area and I have to travel 45min just to find a VS. It’s easily 2+ hours for any stores other than VS.

I followed the calculator’s rules pretty meticulously, and ordered myself two “Peek-Proof Underwire Full Coverage Bra U00810015” from Understance. One in a size 34H and one in a size 34G. After several months of waiting, they finally arrived.

The underwire seems to fit my wide root well. The cup fit on the 34G is nearly perfect everywhere below the nipple, but I’m not filling out the bra above the nipple. There’s quite a bit of rippling there. If I pull my shoulder blades back and together as far as I can, the cups seem to fit perfectly. Like every bra I’ve ever tried, the underwire digs into my ribs. That’s usually the fit issue that drives me back to terrible Walmart ones.

- Do I just need to go down a size?
- Try a balconette?
- Is there always some level of discomfort with the underwire?
- Any idea where I failed with the calculator? I’ve gained and then lost about 20lbs in the last few years and my chest sits lower than it used to. Dunno if that’s affecting the calculator somehow.
- Any recommendations for other closing sales? I don’t make enough to be spending $70 on a single undergarment.

I don’t want to look any bigger, so my ideal bra would have no padding and would lift without dramatically increasing projection. I’m generally not a super feminine girl. I exclusively wear T-shirts and scrubs, and I hate when you can see bra lines/lace texture through them. This Understance bra has way too much material on top. I was hoping that would minimize bra lines through shirts, but I hate the way it looks shirtless lol

I just want to be comfy, plz help :(

Edit: The problem was me lol. I’ve lost 10-15lbs since ordering and didn’t factor that in. It’s not abnormal for me to do so from winter to summer, so it didn’t even cross my mind. My new measurements are:

Loose underbust: 34”
Snug underbust: 33”
Tight underbust: 30.5”
Standing bust: 38.5”
Leaning bust: 43.25”
Lying bust: 38.25”
afab

34E UK
34DDD US

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u/AmbitionSuch6319 — 2 months ago
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ISO cool tone face serum tanner like Bondi Sands Technocolor Emerald

I just purchased some Bondi Sands Technocolor Emerald and promptly found out that the Technocolor Emerald face serum that goes with it is out of stock. The only face serum they have in stock is Magenta.

I’ve never used self-tanner before, and I need to figure it out before I’m a bridesmaid in a month. (I want to avoid the spray tan she has for those who show up pale on the day because I know it’ll be orange on me.)

Should I just use some of the regular Emerald body foam on my face? Is there a product close to the Emerald face serum that you’d recommend? I currently have a bit of a farmer’s tan. My legs are fair and my arms are light.

The absolute most important thing to me is not appearing orange. I need need need the tan to be cool toned. With zero tan, I have very cool toned fair olive skin. Every makeup foundation I’ve tried looks terrible and orange on me. Help lol!

u/AmbitionSuch6319 — 3 months ago