Image 1 — Zhuge Liang vs Fyodor but Normal Scaling
Image 2 — Zhuge Liang vs Fyodor but Normal Scaling

Zhuge Liang vs Fyodor but Normal Scaling

Since this is normal scaling we also gotta take all the narrative and statements into account obviously.

Fyodor [ Bungo Stray Dogs Manga ]

Zhuge Liang [ The Ravages of Time + Three Kingdoms Romance ]

-FSIQ: Fyodor,

(via conversation with Dazai in meresault, killing Ace and various other unrealistic fsiq feats. Fyodor easily takes.)

-Overall EQ: Fyodor

-Overall SQ: Fyodor

(Modern societies are much more complex than past societies. Both Fyodor and Zhuge Liang perfectly navigated, understood and instigated several social groups but I'll give it to Fyodor since modern is more sophisticated)

-Overall AC: Fyodor

-Thinking: Equal maybe

-Reasoning: Zhuge Liang

(Very Easily)

-Strategy: Zhuge Liang

(Easily takes this from Fyodor)

-Planning: Zhuge Liang

(Fyodor's is a much much longer plan, but when you think about it, those plans can be summed up into key steps. In which Zhuge Liang will win.)

-Manipulation: Fyodor maybe

-Deception: Zhuge Liang

-Foresight: Zhuge Liang🥶

-Tactical Prowess: Zhuge Liang

(Showed way better tactical plays)

-Game Theory: Zhuge Liang

-Adaptability: Idk

Fixed Situations: Fyodor Mid Diffs

Non-Fixed Situations: Zhuge Liang Low-Mid Diffs

Cat and Mouse: Fyodor High Diffs

Warfare Situations: Zhuge Liang idk diff

Economic: Zhuge Liang High diff

Winner: Zhuge Liang, High(???) Difficulty

Yes, Zhuge Liang is also cracked in Normal and Narrative Scaling.

Methodology Scaling: Zhuge Liang Low Diffs(-)

u/Ancient-End2474 — 24 hours ago

Ang Xiao(eos) vs Chen Ran(ch900) in different scalings

Methodology Scaling: Chen Ran High Diffs(-)

(No comment)

Pure Methodology Scaling: Chen Ran Low Diffs

(Ang Xiao relies more on power systems so Pure Methodology would heavily criticize Ang Xiao+Chen Ran has more explanations for his feats)

Versatility Scaling: Chen Ran Low-Mid difficulty

(Chen Ran is just way more versatile, much more than Ang Xiao even though Ang Xiao is also versatile. The only upside that Ang Xiao has is that he is more cautious.)

Normal Scaling: Ang Xiao Mid-High Difficulty

(Ang Xiao scales Hyperversal+all the divination and stuff+there's all that statements)

Stop Scaling: Chen Ran Low diffs

(Ang Xiao's setups happened thousands of years ago, this shie is unfair)

Authorial Scaling: Chen Ran No Diffs

(Er Liang Bai Kai planning for several years>>>>Batics author gooning for years and then deciding to lock in)

Complexity Scaling: Chen Ran, Low Diffs

Proven Ability Scaling: Ang Xiao Extreme Diffs

Bias Scaling: Chen Ran No Diffs

Agenda Scaling: Chen Ran No Diffs

(Chen Ran made it to SCD mainstream so...)

Potential Scaling: Chen Ran No Diffs

Power Scaling: Ang Xiao No Diffs

(Ang Xiao is likely strong enough to bypass Liar Killer Mechanism. +Cultivation stories are just like that)

Writing Scaling: Ang Xiao Low-Mid diffs(????)

(Determined man>>>Lazy genius guy)

Aura scaling: Chen Ran Mid diffs

(Chen Ran aura farms nearly every chapter with the sole exception of when Chen Yang was destroying everyone)

u/Ancient-End2474 — 2 days ago

Mu Zixuan the lost potential and the tragedy of underrated authors

Mu Zixuan is from the Webnovel called [ Court of The Sword-treading ]

Which is a multi pov story, it scales at Top Tier+++

in terms of methodology scaling.

But it could've scaled much higher if the author didn't drop it.

For people asking about its potential, it's around the level of 18loh's potential apparently.

From what I was told, the reason why the author dropped this story was because it only had less than 200 subscribers.

In short thousands of people prefer to read slops and harem over this🥀

You can judge for yourself, but it's really a good story as far as I am.

Anyways, this tells us how niche intelligence is. Even if an author is capable of writing such an intelligent character, why bother? When barely anyone would read it. Then you'd barely gain anything from it than if you were to write something else, since most people prefer Intelligence as a side dish in most stories.

u/Ancient-End2474 — 6 days ago

Chen Ran(current) vs Kang Jinhyuk EOS(highest interpretation)

-Intelligence: Chen Ran

-Social Intelligence: Kang Jinhyuk

-Mentality: Chen Ran

-Thinking: Chen Ran

-Reasoning: Chen Ran

-Strategy: Kang Jinhyuk

-Planning: Kang Jinhyuk>=

-Situational Navigation: Chen Ran

-Manipulation: Kang Jinhyuk

-Deception: Chen Ran

-Game Theory: Chen Ran

-Tactical Prowess: Chen Ran

-Theory of Mind: Kang Jinhyuk

Winner: Chen Ran, Extreme difficulty

I personally have the difficulty a bit lower since I have KJH below First Saint right now, but it doesn't matter because Chen Ran wins no matter what just saying🥶

(In my own take I have CR taking both Strat and Planning but it doesn't matter because Chen Ran still wins)

Remaining opponents: Pun Yunchuan(Highest interpretation)>Mo Tan>Mu Zixuan>Niu Youdao>=Lu Chen(close???)

u/Ancient-End2474 — 7 days ago

Chen Ran vs Ang Xiao

-Intelligence: Chen Ran

-Social Intelligence: Ang Xiao

-Mentality: Ang Xiao

-Thinking: Chen Ran

-Reasoning: Chen Ran

-Strategy: Chen Ran

-Planning: Chen Ran>=

-Situational Navigation: Chen Ran

-Manipulation: Ang Xiao

-Deception: Chen Ran

-Foresight: Chen Ran

-Tactical Prowess: Chen Ran

-Game Theory: Chen Ran

-Adaptability: Chen Ran

-Theory of Mind: Chen Ran

Fixed Situations: Chen Ran, Mid diffs

Non-Fixed Situations: Chen Ran, Extreme diffs

With prep time: Ang Xiao, Extreme diffs

Realistic Situation: Chen Ran, High diffs

Economic Battles: Chen Ran, Very High diffs

Political Battles: Chen Ran, Extreme diffs

Technological Race: Chen Ran, Low-Mid diffs

Cat and Mouse: Chen Ran, Mid-High diffs

Winner: Chen Ran, High difficulty

The rivalry is over, Ang Xiao has fallen. Blud even took planning from him😭🙏

u/Ancient-End2474 — 14 days ago

The truth about Inaccessible Characters

I hope you already guessed it.

The characters who supposedly layers of no diffs Ang Xiao out of existence—Vereiya, Long Chian, Ocrevius, Sou Loang, Zha Hiangtan, etc. etc.

They never existed, at least not in the way you think they did.

They were fanfics by the people who introduced them and claimed they were actual works.

They never existed.

Evidence 1: We were never told any reliable evidence that they existed.

Evidence 2: Standard was overly complicating the method to access them even though it's actually very simple if said properly. Even if you do the method, it wouldn't lead you to those inaccessible works, instead it would lead you to jazz and some music.

Evidence 3: my friends contacted many experts, one among them who did the most contribution went so far as to even contact the figures behind wuxiaworld. The result, couldn't have been more dissapointing, they don't exist, or rather there was no reason for them to exist. Just imagine this, which author would write a work with 3000+ chapters for several years with so much effort just to hide it from the public. In truth the Inaccessible Works in writing tournaments does exist but they are very very short and there's no reason for a work with such top tier effort to be in there.

Evidence 4: The biggest evidence of all. The people involved admitted it themselves after a long time. They never existed.

The true inaccessible fictional works:

I also did my own part and went around several writing groups for that one small hope, from facebook, to youtube, to tiktok and several sites to search for the private works with smart characters, I've read nearly a hundred but most of them are short and are Low Tier with Mid Tiers to minor High Tiers at best.

In truth Inaccessible just means there is a privacy. For example, Morris the blind man(before it was released I included it in my joke post of Fang Yuan vs smart characters where I had everyone defeating Fang Yuan and everyone after Niu Youdao were private works or OCs.)was originally a private work but as you can see author decided to make it available to public.

These are the fictional works I found which are all private:

Xuan Luo: from Endless Wonders which I convinced the OC authors to translate the unreadable source into a readable version. The story revolves around absurd situations and is overall a scattered story, with smart characters trying to outwit each other across such a large cosmology. This was originally a powerscaling OC that then became an SCD OC.

Gu Shiyan: original name was Gushan, The first work of the writers of Xuan Luo, it's a Dr.Stone fanfic originally but the world is more cruel and there's a lot of scheming going around. This one is already completed but once again in an unreadable form.

Reverie: From a fanfic of a Philippine tv series named Encantadia(no tiny bit of scd in here), written by a UP Dilleman student, Reverie is a strategic genius who transmigrated in this mythological dimension. Despite him being a genius in strategy, he simply lived a normal life in the modern world, struggling in academics and we were shown that the world simply didn't prefer his type of intelligence. But when he Transmigrates into the new world, he is now able to utilize it and scheme his way up. The ending was also very mature and well done.

Yu Fenxie: Honestly high potential to be well written but author is just so lazy... the author is in this subreddit but is just lurking, Valkyrie something.

Scaling them:

Xuan Luo part 50-->Top Tier+++

Gu Shiyan eos-->Top Tier

Reverie eos-->Very High~Extremely High Tier

Yu Fenxie-->High Tier(top tier potential)

That concludes the series and hopefully my journey in exploring writing groups to find smart characters(I am so ashamed of everything I've done to get the smart characters)

u/Ancient-End2474 — 14 days ago

Chen Ran(current) vs First Saint(eos)

Chen Ran [ Eighteen Levels of Hell: Lying is Forbidden Here ]

First Saint [ Being a Talent In Chusheng Demon Sect ]

-Intelligence: Chen Ran

-Social Intelligence: Chen Ran

-Mentality: First Saint

-Thinking: Chen Ran

-Reasoning: Chen Ran

-Strategy: Chen Ran

-Planning: First Saint

-Manipulation: First Saint

-Deception: Chen Ran

-Situational Navigation: Chen Ran

-Adaptability: Chen Ran

-Theory of Mind: Chen Ran

-Foresight: Chen Ran

-Game Theory: Chen Ran

-Tactical Prowess: Chen Ran

Winner: Chen Ran, Extreme difficulty

Current ranking: Pun Yunchuan>Mo Tan>Niu Youdao>Lu Chen>Mu Zixuan>Kang Jinhyuk>Chen Ran

Chen Ran is top 7🔥

u/Ancient-End2474 — 14 days ago

Holy! Er Liang Bai Kai must be hiding among us! Blud really wrote peak schemes!

Talking about the current Instance: Chen Ran's Tomb Instance

First there was the insane situation then Chen Yang came, achieved top 2 in the verse then left and now we had this very crazy sequence of scheming.

Everyone who said that Chen Ran's offensive scheming will never reach top tier will have to take their words back at this point!

According to Jarionn this series of scheming might just be more complex than Ravages of Time.

Er Liang Bai Kai absolutely cooked.

Chen Ran is beating First Saint now at this point!

HE HAS SURPASSED BATICS VERSE AND IS STILL ON THE RUN!

Ang Xiao and even First Saint are now losing against Chen Ran after this Instance.

Random side characters in this Instance clears verses like Liar Game, this is certainly the most absurd situation among everything I ever read in public fiction😭🙏

Screw 50th floor Kang Jinhyuk plan, Chen Ran's Tomb is just the peak of absurd situations.

Anyways since the ranking goes like this...

1.) Mo Tan, 2.) Niu Youdao, 3.) Lu Chen, 4.) Mu Zixuan, 5.) Kang Jinhyuk, 6.) First Saint,

Then Chen Ran essentially took First Saint's place and achieved top 6~8(depending if you want to count planning merchants from TDWID)

And he isn't stoping yet!

His next enemy is the peak of korean fiction in outsmarting—Kang Jinhyuk, it's only a matter of time until he reaches Niu Youdao level(at this rate, by end if Instance, it should at least be Niu Youdao>Chen Ran, High difficulty)

And that one last major gap is everything we ever wanted Chen Ran to step on and overcome🔥

After he reaches Niu Youdao level we can then start dreaming about him beating the planning merchant—Pun Yunchuan who is 2 gaps away.

This arc is just so insanely complex bro, everyone is doing perfect schemes, literally the side characters are doing Fang Yuan level performance.

Chen Ran reaching top tier in offensive scheming? The entire realm of top 10 methodology is shaking.

u/Ancient-End2474 — 15 days ago

Top 10 Smartest publicly avaialable Fictional Characters in Methodology scaling in Traceable process(August 5, 2026)

This is just me gathering information from my group who as you know like smart characters.

So this contains some larp except the ones I read✌️

[ Traceable Process ]

This is a version of Methodology Scaling where as long as a process is traceable it can be scaled and is generally less strict.

1.) Pun Yunchuan [ The Demon World I Designed ]

Character Type: Planning Merchant, he planned the entire story from the very start, and also the story is very chaotic which is what makes his planning so impressive. Among all Top Tiers, he is also the only truly kind character as everything he did was all for the sake of everyone's benefits.

Best Category: Planning obviously.

2.) Mo Tan [ Quadruple Split ]

Character Type: Chen Ran type, that's what I know. His style in outsmarting is very similar to Chen Ran apparently, and also he has multiple personalities and all of them knows how to cook.

Best Category: Idk

Additional Detail: In the other version of Methodology which more of my friends prefer(basically where planning merchants would lose) he is the top 1.

3.) Niu Youdao [ Heavenly Genius ]

Character Type: Strategist and realistic human type. The narrative always emphasize that Niu Youdao is a human genius, not some god. He doesn't have extremely overpowered cognition, he is just a genius—a real heavenly genius, that's all.

He is also kinda powerless in his own story in terms of combat(not for the early parts but for the later parts of the story), his opponents throughout the stories does bunch of High Tier feats up to Very High Tier, but of course only a few of the characters can be scaled. As for his adversity? It's obviously Top Tier+ in difficulty.

Best Category: Strategy, Deception,

Additional Detail: Please read this, this is a masterpiece🥹

4.) The Prophet [The Demon World I Designed]

Character Type: Psychology Merchant, he was literally an existence that could predict everything in the human mind down to every details. Still Pun Yunchuan outsmarted him anyways.

Best Category: Theory of Mind(???), Planning,

5.) Lu Chen [ Nine Bestowments ]

Character Type: Human cognition but cracked in both Reasoning and Scheming. He is the type which is Morningz's favourite, ACTUAL SCHEMERS, no op cognition, no perfect Emotional Understanding just pure scheming abilities, he is also cracked in reasoning that he is close to Chen Ran with a small margin.

Best Category: Scheming, Reasoning,

6.) Mu Zixuan [ Court of Sword-treading ]

Character Type: Schemer, but he isn't the type of planning merchants that most of us dislike. In short he is more Ang Xiao than Ang Xiao himself. After every certain point of time we get a reveal of how he planned everything.

Best Category: Scheming

7.) Kang Jinhyuk [ Solo Max Level Newbie ]

Character Type: Knowledge advantage, he has high knowledge advantage early on but last part it's not so significant anymore.

Best Category: Thinking, Strategy,

Additional Detail: The only non chinese within our top 10, who would have thought?

8.) Colonel Timo [ Solo Max Level Newbie ]

Character Type: Planning Merchant who is actually quite acceptable. Anyways the version of Methodology that doesn't like planning merchants may not agree with him being within top 10 which is why I said earlier than Kang Jinhyuk is the only non-chinese.

Best Category: Planning

9.) First Saint [ Being A Talent In Chusheng Demon Sect ]

Character Type: Elegant schemer, he mains planning but his plans are elegant and connects together, he also have contingencies so he isn't the planning merchant we all dislike.

Best Category: Planning

10.) Chen Ran [ Eighteen Levels of Hell: Lying is Forbidden Here ]

Character Type: Reasoning man, he will figure out absolutely everything. He is also the type of character who is in very absurd situations.

Best Category: Reasoning, Navigation, Adaptability,

10.) Ang Xiao [ Being A Talent In Chusheng Demon Sect ]

Character Type; Elegant Schemer, Contingencies Type, basically he planted many contingencies and planned for thousands of years. His opponents are Dao Lords who can one-shot him and the protagonist who can regress and ruin his plans.

Best Category: Scheming, Reasoning, Game Theory,

Additional Detail: You can have either Chen Ran or Ang Xiao winning, they are basically equal at this point of time.

For people asking why I separated Scheming, strategy and planning. I used 'Scheming' when the character is nearly equivalently cracked in both Strategy and planning.

u/Ancient-End2474 — 16 days ago

Xuan Luo Episode 1 vs ch30 Chen Ran | Xuan Luo act 1 vs Fang Yuan

I know the chapters aren't uploaded yet but this is my opinion by reading the original source. Also I noticed that chapter count was vastly different from original source and the WN so I am using the episodes and acts while trying to match chapter count by rough estimation

[ Xuan Luo episode 1 vs ch30 Chen Ran ]

-Intelligence(Fluid, Crystallized, Spatial, Cognitive Resources Allocation, ) Xuan Luo

-Social Intelligence(Leadership, Engineering, Awareness, Skills, Relationship management, ) Xuan Luo

-Mentality: Xuan Luo

-Thinking(Associative, Convergent, ) Chen Ran

-Thinking(Divergent, Linear, Creative, Lateral, ) Xuan Luo

-Reasoning(Abductive, Inductive, Pattern Recognition, ) Chen Ran

-Reasoning(Deductive, Abstract, ) Xuan Luo

-Schemes(Re-aligning, Approach, Complexity, Goal setting, Versatility, Contingencies, Win-conditions, Layers, Sacrificing, Escape Strats, ) Xuan Luo

-Scheming(Efficiency, Positional Play, ) Chen Ran

-Navigation(Judgement, Recovery, Long-Term Navigation, Pressure Resistance, Info Mangement, Survive and Escape, Risk Assessment, Improvising, Crisis Management, Contingencies, ) Xuan Luo

-Navigation(Initiative Control, Discerning, ) Chen Ran

-Manipulation(All): Chen Ran

-Deception(All) Chen Ran

-Game Theory(Payoff Analysis, Opponent Modeling, Mixed Strategy Usage, ) Xuan Luo

-Game Theory(Nash Equilibrium, Backward Induction, Coalitions, ) Chen Ran

-Tactical Play: Xuan Luo

Winner: Xuan Luo, Extreme difficulty

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[ Xuan Luo act 1 vs EOS Fang Yuan ]

-Intelligence: Xuan Luo

-Social Intelligence: Xuan Luo

-Mentality: Equal???

-Thinking: Xuan Luo

-Reasoning: Xuan Luo

-Schemes: Xuan Luo

-Navigation: Xuan Luo

-Manipulation: Fang Yuan

-Deception: Xuan Luo

-Foresight: Xuan Luo

-Game Theory: Xuan Luo

-Tactics: Xuan Luo

-Adaptability: Xuan Luo

Winner: Xuan Luo, High difficulty

NGL, I just can't imagine Fang Yuan standing a chance at this point... maybe you won't understand since it isn't released yet but when I was reading it, he was just doing so many crazy things. If you remove all his restrictions and stuff the steps itself would be like High Tier level but the restrictions adds so much complexities to the point that he has to try and predict every possibility, follow all the rules that continuously updates while executing his plans so he had to account for everything and dealing with his restrictions are also technically part of his schemes. Otherwise he would die if he doesn't consider the restrictions in his plans.

I just wrote High diff because I don't fully understand the feats of Xuan Luo so I only considered the parts I get.

Current WN is like 1/3 of the original episode 1 I guess. The upload was paused due to school overload that affects many students in our country.

This is the highest potential fictional work I ever found while going around and asking every single writing group I could find and having to swallow my shame for months...

After weeks of kneeling I finally convinced them to upload🙏

But the original fictional work is much much worse in terms of writing since it was just done for fun by some STEM students who wanted to apply their knowledge and enjoyed brain teasing.

To give you a glimpse the original source is written like this.

*Event happens*

Xuan Luo's monologue:

*Steps of action*

*Brief explanations*

So even though the story was written up until episode 50, they would have to expand it when uploading.

Lastly, I can't really give the original source to anyone. I mean, I literally can't I can only access it in real life by borrowing their phones and going to the documents🥀

u/Ancient-End2474 — 20 days ago

Chen Ran used ability nullification [ Eternal Kingdom ] in the best way

His ability is a walking disaster, not just for others but also for him. His ability also has a time limit, using it in this verse is extremely complicated as using it wrongly can basically turn it useless.

Despite all this, he still uses it accurately and in the smartest ways, literally no other character I know used ability nullification any better than Chen Ran.

u/Ancient-End2474 — 25 days ago

Niu Youdao [ Heavenly Genius ch500 ] vs Chen Ran [ 18loh ch260 ]

-Intelligence(Fluid, Crsytallized, NCPs, Spatial, Logic, Linguistic, ) Chen Ran

-Social(Skills, Awareness, Engineering, ) Niu Youdao

-Social(Communications, ) Chen Ran

-Mentality(Determination, Mindset, Subconscious, Mental Models, Thinking Styles=, ) Chen Ran

-Mentality(Unpredictability) Niu Youdao

-Thinking(Associative, Creative, Analytical, Abstract, Divergent, Convergent, ) Chen Ran

-Thinking(Holistic, Concrete, Systems, ) Niu Youdao

-Reasoning(Inductive, Abductive, Deductive, Pattern Recognition, ) Chen Ran

-Strategy(Re-alignment, Versatility, Complexity, Depth, Efficiency, Effectiveness, Logistics, ) Niu Youdao

-Planning(Contingencies, Length, Intricacies, Fornulation, Operational, Flexibility, ) Niu Youdao

-Situation Navigation Abilities( Chaos management, Pressure management, Threat Mitigation, Environmental Navigation, Dynamic Decision Making, Opportunity Exploitation, Escaping Abilities>=, ) Chen Ran

-Situation Navigation Abilities (Prioritization, Conflict Navigation, Contingency Handling, Route Optimization=, Resource Navigation, Risk Management, ) Niu Youdao

-Foresight(Prediction, Anticipation, End-state visualization, Adaptive Foresight, Trap Anticipation, ) Niu Youdao

-Foresight(Opponent scheme reconstruction, Multi-agent foresight, Simulation, ) Chen Ran

-Countering(Meta-countering, Chain countering, Method analysis, Information countering, Rule countering, ) Chen Ran

-Manipulation(Direct, Psychological, Narrative manipulation, Decision Manipulation=, Event?, Relationships, Exploitation, ) Niu Youdao

-Manipulation(Environment Manipulation, Decision Manipulation=, Information Manipulation, Indirect, Logical, ) Chen Ran

-Deception( Verbal, Informational, Evidence Deception, Paltering, Falsifying, Omission, ) Chen Ran

-Deception( Identity, Fabrication, Concealment, Bluffing, ) Niu Youdao

-Game Theory( Payoff Analysis, Coalition Formation, Resource Allocation, Backward Induction, ) Niu Youdao

-Game Theory ( Nash Equilibrium, Signaling, ) Chen Ran

[Overall Distribution]

Chen Ran: Intelligence, Thinking, Reasoning, Navigation, Countering, Adaptability,

Niu Youdao: Social, Strategy, Planning, Foresight, Manipulation, Game Theory, Theory of Mind,

Equal/idk: Deception, Tactical,

[ Situations ]

Chen Ran: Fixed, Escape Rooms, Raw Intelligence, Technological Race, Modern Warfares,

Niu Youdao: Non-fixed, Realistic, Economical, Politics, Ancient Warfares, Cat and Mouse, Resource Building,

Winner: Niu Youdao, Very High Difficulty(+)

u/Ancient-End2474 — 27 days ago

Lu Bu[ Ravages of time ] vs Light Yagami[ Death Note ]

-Intelligence: Light Yagami

-Social Intelligence: Lu Bu

-Thinking: Lu Bu

-Reasoning: Light Yagami

-Strategy: Lu Bu

-Planning: Lu Bu

-Manipulation: Lu Bu

-Deception: Light Yagami

-Foresight: Lu Bu

-Adaptability: Lu Bu

-Navigation: Lu Bu

-Game Theory: Lu Bu

-Tactical Prowess: Lu Bu

-Theory of Mind: Light Yagami

Winner: Lu Bu, Mid difficulty

u/Ancient-End2474 — 27 days ago

(Battle of 5 chapters) Xuan Luo vs Chen Ran

Ch used is both at chapter 5 of their story.

Both are scales by feats, but narratively Xuan Luo victimizes.

-FSIQ: Xuan Luo

-Overall EQ: Xuan Luo

-Overall SQ: Both

-Adversity Capacity: Xuan Luo

-Thinking: Xuan Luo

-Reasoning: Xuan Luo

-Strategy: Equal???

-Planning: Xuan Luo

-Navigation Abilities: Xuan Luo

-Manipulation: Chen Ran

-Deception: Chen Ran

-Foresight: Chen Ran

-Adaptability: Xuan Luo

-Game Theory: Xuan Luo

-Tactics: Chen Ran???

Winner: Xuan Luo, Very High Difficulty(+)

This is a new story from a friend in real life so I'm gatekeeping this for now, but this should be the highest scaling with the shortest chapter count (We are excluding Shen Jihan since each chapter of his is equivalent to like 3 chapters for both works)

u/Ancient-End2474 — 29 days ago

Kang Jinhyuk (WN ch500) vs Li Gang (current)

I've already done a distribution for around ch800 Kang but Kang can win even without Covenant arc imo.

-Intelligence(Fluid, Cognitive Resources Allocation, overall, NCPs, ) Li Gang

-Intelligence(Linguistic, Crystallized, Spatial, ) Kang Jinhyuk

-Social Intelligence(Emotional Understanding, Social Engineering, Social Skills, Social Awareness, overall ) Kang Jinhyuk

-Social Intelligence(Emotional Perception, ) Li Gang

-Mentality: Li Gang

-Thinking(Convergent, Creative, Divergent, Lateral, Systems, Associative, Linear, Complexity, ) Kang Jinhyuk

-Reasoning(Abductive(?), Pattern Recognition, ) Kang Jinhyuk

-Reasoning(Abstract, Inductive, overall(?) ) Li Gang

-Strategy(Multi win condition, Control, Complexity, Success Rate, Efficiency, ) Kang Jinhyuk

-Planning(Contingencies, Length, ) Li Gang

-Planning(Intricacies) Kang Jinhyuk

-Manipulation(Direct, Indirect, Psychological, Logical, ) Kang Jinhyuk

-Manipulation(Event) Li Gang

-Deception: Idk

-Adaptability(All) Li Gang

-Theory of Mind: Kang Jinhyuk

-Game Theory(Prunning, Nash Equilibrium, overall, ) Li Gang

-Game Theory(Minimax, Backward Induction, ) Kang Jinhyuk

-Navigation: Kang Jinhyuk

Winner: Kang Jinhyuk, Very High difficulty

u/Ancient-End2474 — 29 days ago

Tarantulian Demon vs Smart Characters

[ this is just a fanfic joke ]

Tarantulian Demon is from a Universe where everything is taken to the extreme. At first his goal is to find a way to escape the Endless Void by manipulating his puppets across the Ten Divine Worlds.

When he was finally able to escape, he sacrificed everything in order to save the people he cared about. Achieving immense powers in order to save the Universe while scheming against all gods.

When he finally resolved everything, the immense power had already turned everything meaningless. He can no longer descend in the accessible world so that it won't be destroyed.

He can't even send puppets anymore, he can only observe.

The eternal solitude of the Inaccessible Realm...

How will he do against Smart Characters?

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Light Yagami: Tarantulian Demon, No difficulty

Akiyama Shinichi: Tarantulian Demon, No difficulty

Baku Madarame: Tarantulian Demon, No difficulty

Wang Lu: Tarantulian Demon, No difficulty

Fang Yuan: Tarantulian Demon, No difficulty

Guo Jia: Tarantulian Demon, No difficulty

Zhuge Liang: Tarantulian Demon No Difficulty

Lynch: Tarantulian Demon, No difficulty

Lu Yang: Tarantulian Demon, No difficulty

Chen Ran: Tarantulian Demon, No difficulty

Ang Xiao: Tarantulian Demon, No difficulty

Kang Jinhyuk: Tarantulian Demon, No difficulty

Mo Tan: Tarantulian Demon, No difficulty

Mu Zixuan: Tarantulian Demon, No difficulty

Lu Chen: Tarantulian Demon, No difficulty

Niu Youdao: Tarantulian Demon, No difficulty

Pun Yunchuan: Tarantulian Demon, No difficulty

Vs Ocrevius: Tarantulian Demon, Very Low Difficulty

Vs Heiti Tiangzheng: Tarantulian Demon, Low difficulty

Vs Sequel Baku🥶: Tarantulian Demon: Low difficulty

Vs EOS Chen Ran: Tarantulian Demon, Low-Mid difficulty

Vs Roy Luther: Tarantulian Demon, Mid difficulty

Vs Vereiya: Tarantulian Demon, Very High difficulty

Vs Ro Zha: Tarantulian Demon Extreme difficulty

Tarantulian Demon— Intelligence that has reached innacessible clears the gauntlet

u/Ancient-End2474 — 1 month ago
▲ 49 r/EighteenLevelsOfHell+1 crossposts

Verbal difficulty in Eighteen Levels of Hell: Lying is Forbidden Here

I will be focusing on tongue twisting aspects here.

Also this doesn't really add anything to Chen Ran's scaling, this is just something a lot of people don't talk about.

Mandarin is not so forgiving...

Four main tones plus a neutral tone.

There are many syllables that are otherwise identical except for tone.

There is also a relatively small number of possible syllables compared to English.

mā (mother)

má (hemp)

mǎ (horse)

mà (scold)

Of course, this isn't a problem in real life but in the settings of Hell, these tones are heavily targeted.

Eng****lish Tongue Twister vs Chinese Tongue Twister

Chinese: 四是四,十是十,十四是十四,四十是四十。

Pinyin: Sì shì sì, shí shì shí, shísì shì shísì, sìshí shì sìshí.

Meaning: Four is four, ten is ten, fourteen is fourteen, forty is forty.

English: How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

English: She sells seashells by the seashore.

Try to use God's Perspective in this one, search how to pronounce the different tones in real life and try to think that we will use natives for both language.

Also if you are against this, the experts generally agree that Chinese tongue twisters is more difficult than English ones. (It's just one search if you still doubt this)

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But, if 18loh happened in English settings, it's also true that English would have its own difficulty that will be targeted by Hell.

And that's Extremely Precise Grammar, believe it or not Chinese grammar isn't actually that hard.

So really, as far as I can see whether English or Chinese would be harder in Hell(in terms of speaking it during all the stressful situations)

You only have to decide which you think would be harder: Precise grammar or Tongue Twists

In my opinion the Chinese settings would be slightly harder overall but you decide on your own.

Lastly, this isn't just an interpretation.

You just need to do one search to find out, I personally think Chinese is easier than English but the tongue twisting is just on another level.

u/Ancient-End2474 — 25 days ago

Kang Jinhyuk put an end to the Chinese characters invasion

Video by Tanvir.

With this, EOS Kang Jinhyuk should be First Saint level, meaning there are only a few more chinese character above him that isn't a fraud. And that's Niu Youdao, Lu Chen, Mu Zixuan, Mo Tan who are all basically on the same level.

Kang Jinhyuk almost cleared all the chinese characters by being above Chen Ran and Ang Xiao both around Very High Difficulty.

On this day Korean fiction was only a small margin away from reaching the very peak of methodology scaling of Intelligence...

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u/Ancient-End2474 — 1 month ago