u/Blue__Northen_Star

So when religious people say things like, "It's a sin in my religion to be gay/eat meat/masturbate/get tattoos, etc. You're being a sinner." etc., a common response from the people being attacked is, "I never signed-up for your religion. If it's a sin in islam to eat pork, then that's your choice but I'm not a muslim so that law doesn't apply to me. That sounds like a you problem."

So then if that's the logic then people who never signed-up for liberal beliefs should also be immune from your labels.

It's homophobic to dislike gays? It's islamophobic to dislike muslims? It's fatphobic to be hostile towards fat people? Well tough luck I never signed-up for liberal labels.

So it goes both ways.

If "I never signed-up for your belief system = Your labels don't apply to me", then...

This person has been blocked by multiple people yet is still capable of commenting on others' posts. This person is arrogant and is always in denial when his favorite factions (liberals, leftists & palestine supporters) do something wrong. "No we don't do that! You're just lying about it to be pissy about it!" nyeh nyeh nyeh blah blah blah.

He is toxic, arrogant & invasive who has no respect for other people's boundaries and never listens to anyone who corrects him.

But have no worries, my dear citizens! I have already begun drafting a report and will repeatedly keep on reporting this person to the reddit developers until they do something about it.

Wish me luck!

Mods, if you read this post, pls do something about that person.

Black & other POC races & cultures can also have that sort of mindset & mentality, you know. Black & other people of color can be just as hostile towards foreigners just as much as white people can be.

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But of course the media tends to view white people with more hostility than when it comes to blacks.

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"White british man tells muslim to go back to his rapist country" is a much more controversial headline than, let's say, "Black man in south africa spits at white tourist, tells white Christian woman to go back to America" of something

Disclaimer: Before anyone assumes I am a right wing Christian, I'd like to remind you all that opposing team b does not always mean you automatically support team a.

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Anyway.

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I can't respect leftist christians because those guys generally tend to reek of pride, arrogance & toxicity. They force The Legacy of Jesus Christ & The Bible to fit modern-day political agendas & a political faction Jesus didn't even sign-up for.

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Plus, many leftist Christians don't even go to church as far as I can tell. And, leftist Christians don't preach about nor practice, let's say:

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• fasting

• donation

• baptism

• repentance

• the 10 commandments

• the legacies of biblical characters & the rememberance of them

• the banishment of demons & idolatry

• turning away from sin

• picking-up one's own cross

• protecting the widows & the fatherless

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Etc.

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They just wanna make Jesus look anti-establishment, anti-capitalist (just because he praised a widow for donating all her money which was an act of hermitage not leftism), gay-tolerant & somehow pro-choice/abortion (even though Jesus explicitly cursed child abusers & the fact that The Book of Revelations literally said that same-sex couples WILL end-up in hell).

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Plus I literally never heard a single leftist christian ever preach about self-denial & self-discipline.

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Sooo... for some context regarding the widow one: One day, Jesus was in The Temple of Jerusalem with his disciples. Rich people donated first then a poor widow donated her only remaining coin. Jesus said that that woman gave more than all the rich people. The disciples asked how and Jesus basically said that while the rich donors did give more money in a literal sense, that woman gave the most because she donated 100% of her money while they only donated like 0.1%. It was an act of complete submission & offering to God. "Everything I have is yours, God. I entrust my care to you." was basically the energy she was trying to project, and absolutely not "Let's get rid of capitalism." Why are you forcing a political narrative on a story about humility?

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Side Rant: If leftists are really anti-capitalists, why do they make & keep money? They shouldn't!

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And from personal experience, many leftist christians love to make fun of right wing & moderate Christians, which is very prideful & arrogant and a blatant defiance of not just the whole "love thy brothers & thy sisters" thing but also of Romans 12:16, which advises, "Consider everyone as equal, and don't think that you're better than anyone else".

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Plus, as far as I can tell (based-on their meetings that I attended & from what I've seen online), leftist christians don't really convene to do anything traditionally Christian. They just convene to affirm their political & ideological biases like "IT'S OKAY IF WE'RE GAY! IT'S OKAY IF WE WANNA GET ABORTIONS! IT'S OKAY IF WE WANNA DO THIS DO THAT BECAUSE LOVE THY NEIGHBOR" and again, they never actually *do* anything Christian like going on pilgrimages, donating to the poor & teaching The Bible to the next generation (unless it's to tell kids Jesus approves of you becoming trans which is just so disgusting to me). They're not really convening to worship Jesus or actually study his word, they're just looking for ways to make Jesus & scriptures subservient to them when it should be the other way around.

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I can't quite describe it but everytime I bear witness or attend leftist christian meetings (I attended some to see what all the fuss was about), the whole room always felt "spiritually stinky" to me, does that make sense? Like the whole area is just so toxic whenever leftist christians meet. Not at all serene, peace-giving, etc. It always reeks of pride & arrogance.

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Their meetings were never about: "How can we make the world a better place?" It was always, "How can we make The Bible support our political & ideological arguments?" The aura & vibe I got was never "I feel God The Holy Spirit flowing into me!" It was always "When can I get home?" because those meetings legitimately always bored me with how un-inspiring they were.

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Plus it's always just the same schmuck over & over again. "God is okay with us being gay!", "God is okay with us being this or that!" It feels less like a Christian worship and more like a reinforcement of shared delusion.

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And the ironic thing is that they call traditionalist Christians "narrow-minded" and themselves as diverse, but the fact is that the traditionalists always change their homilies while the leftist christian conventions are the repetitive ones.

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And everytime they pray together, there's no submission to Christ. They don't say humble things like, "Dear Lord, please use us as you see fit. Help us to be your hands, your feet & your mouth on Earth. If this is your will, may it be done." or anything like that. On the contrary it's always like, "Jesus, make (x)'s parents accept him for being gay." Not even a "please" and "thank you". They're commanding Jesus to fit their narrative. Their prayers always felt domineering, not humble to me. Like Jesus is the one who's supposed to obey them and not them obeying him. And anyone who tries to differ from them is automatically labeled as "hateful & bigoted". Maybe they're the real hateful ones because they got mad first.

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And before anyone calls me judgemental, making remarks and rebuking others isn't judgemental. Biblical characters did it in both The Old & The New Testaments. Like when Prophet Nathan rebuked David or literally when Jesus told the pharisees of their moral failure.

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"You're so judgemental" is just something people say when they don't wanna be corrected & told that they're wrong, and the people correcting them just so happened to be a Christian.

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For all their faults: Right Wing & Moderate Christians have far more ongoing Christian missions than leftists could ever hope to compete with. Those guys actually evangelize, preach, feed the poor & do outreach programs. Unlike leftists christians who only ever say: "It's okay to be gay" for like the trillionth time in just 1 month 😮‍💨...

The traditionalist priest downtown already preached about purity on sunday, prudence on monday, perseverance on wednesday and sacrifice on thursday. Meanwhile the local leftist christians are still stuck on being gay.

I'm not making fun of people's misfortunes here. I just find it suspicious & eerie how - everytime I meet someone who says, "Yeah, I joined a cult/the occult. We do tarot cards, spirit readings & everything." , they always end with misfortune.

Like I recently met this gay dude who had his own discord server & a growing art career then one day he announced: "GUYS! I JUST JOINED THE OCCULT!" then a few days later, he deleted his account and his bio was so full of self-pity.

A few years ago, I met a girl who lived & worked in a circus and she did tarot and she was a self-confessed pagan. A few nights later she had a sleep paralysis experience where she felt a demon stabbing her stomach. His knife would go through her skin and made her stomach feel like it was getting pierced & torn.

I swear getting involved in all that 🔮 🧿 stuff always ends with misfortune.

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Whether it be religion, ideology or whatever, no matter how valid, if you go about spreading it in a way that can be considered toxic, unappealing, etc., especially if you're harassing or strong-arming others into supporting you, then you're not really honoring the cause you're trying to represent.

Let's say if I were an avid church goer and I tell you: "HEY! YOU! COME TO MY CHURCH! WE DONATE TO THE POOR & MAKE FOOD FOR THE HOMELESS EVERY WEEK!" and start harassing you into going to my church, then even if we're doing something good/I have a valid reason to be proud of what I do, then... It's still gonna be unappealing for you, wouldn't it be? Because the presentation was crap.

Let's say Maomao had like a little brother or a little sister before Fengxian died. How would it have affected the story? I.E Maomao's growth, Jinshi's courtship of her, The La Clan's inheritance, etc.

saudi arabia has banned public prayer because they admitted it's destabilizing & an act of dominance. Yet when nom-muslims in america & europe protest it, it's bigotry.

jordan got fed-up with accepting palesitinian muslims because they tried to overthrow the government.

rich gulf states refuse to accept those muslim they deem toxic.

arabs themselves are ashamed of the way pakistani & bangladeshi muslims are behaving in countries like the UK (grooming gangs and all that).

the rich muslims refuse to accept their fellow refugee muslims because they unvetted & untested.

Yet they don't get accused with bigotry, islamophobia and whatnot.

Results speak for themselves.

It spent the majority of its existence being annexed & downtrodden by other greater powers. It was Sandwiched in the crusades. Now it's one of the world's most hated pariah states.

They are the ones who are afraid to offend muslims. They are the ones who succumb easily to islamic pressure. They are the ones who force themselves to smile at muslims. They are the ones who choose to remain pliable and subservient to muslims.

So maybe, they are the real islamophobes all along.

Because a coward wouldn't have the courage to speak-up against people they don't like.

But people who remain quiet because they don't wanna get bashed? Those are the real cowards all along.

I think that the left has mistreated Christianity. They spent years telling Christians to not condemn others then got mad when they stopped.

In the west, leftists have spent like the past 2 decades bashing Christianity telling Christians to shut-up or risk being called judgemental, hypocritical, etc. All manners of verbal abuse.

Then palestine came.

Many Christians didn't react.

The left got mad anyway. "How can you call yourself a Christian when you don't even care about a genocide?! You are the least Christ-like person I have ever met!", they would yell.

You spent 20 years telling Christians "It's un-Christian to condemn other people!" (which is hypocritical & ironic considering the fact that they're not even Christians themselves so they're also un-Christian).

It just feels unfair.

leftists worked super duper hard to bash Christianity. To put a gag order on Christians. To deprive them of the right to free speech. To make them feel like they're not allowed to say an opinion that they don't agree with. To make them feel like they're not allowed to condemn anyone because doing so risks being called "a judgemental hypocrite", then they got mad when they got what they wanted?

From the perspective of an observer, the "wrongness" stems from a perceived lack of intellectual honesty. If a movement spends decades arguing that religious dogma has no place in public policy, it becomes logically inconsistent to then use that same religious dogma to demand specific political actions. This is often called instrumentalism—using a person’s values not because you respect them, but as a tool to guilt-trip them into a specific outcome.

If "tolerance" only extends to people who already agree with you, it isn't really tolerance—it's a demand for submission.

This is anti-Christian bullying, plain & simple.

Hypocritical secularists.

They preach that "The Law should be blind and not look at people's race, gender, religion, skin color, etc. in order to ensure a fair & calm judgement" yet the moment they see "Christian" on a person's label suddenly they become a fricking lynch mob 🙄.

If the goal is to create a fair society where the "Law is blind", then targeting a specific group for their identity or silencing their speech based on their faith would, by definition, be a failure of those same liberal values.

Ultimately, if the goal is social persuasion, many would argue the left is "wrong" purely on a tactical level: you generally can't mock someone's core identity for twenty years and then expect them to be your enthusiastic friend & ally the moment you find a cause you think they should care about.

Side Rant: The accusation "Would Jesus say something like that? He never condemned anyone!" is absolute BS. Jesus condemned people in The Bible. Like: "It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were cast into the sea than that he should cause one of these little ones (children) to sin." - Luke 17:2

In the west, leftists have spent like the past 2 decades bashing Christianity telling Christians to shut-up or risk being called judgemental, hypocritical, etc. All manners of verbal abuse.

Then palestine came.

Many Christians didn't react.

The left got mad anyway. "How can you call yourself a Christian when you don't even care about a genocide?! You are the least Christ-like person I have ever met!", they would yell.

You spent 20 years telling Christians "It's un-Christian to condemn other people!" (which is hypocritical & ironic considering the fact that they're not even Christians themselves so they're also un-Christian).

It just feels unfair.

leftists worked super duper hard to bash Christianity. To put a gag order on Christians. To deprive them of the right to free speech. To make them feel like they're not allowed to say an opinion that they don't agree with. To make them feel like they're not allowed to condemn anyone because doing so risks being called "a judgemental hypocrite", then they got mad when they got what they wanted?

From the perspective of an observer, the "wrongness" stems from a perceived lack of intellectual honesty. If a movement spends decades arguing that religious dogma has no place in public policy, it becomes logically inconsistent to then use that same religious dogma to demand specific political actions. This is often called instrumentalism—using a person’s values not because you respect them, but as a tool to guilt-trip them into a specific outcome.

If "tolerance" only extends to people who already agree with you, it isn't really tolerance—it's a demand for submission.

This is anti-Christian bullying, plain & simple.

Hypocritical secularists.

They preach that "The Law should be blind and not look at people's race, gender, religion, skin color, etc. in order to ensure a fair & calm judgement" yet the moment they see "Christian" on a person's label suddenly they become a fricking lynch mob 🙄.

If the goal is to create a fair society where the "Law is blind", then targeting a specific group for their identity or silencing their speech based on their faith would, by definition, be a failure of those same liberal values.

Ultimately, if the goal is social persuasion, many would argue the left is "wrong" purely on a tactical level: you generally can't mock someone's core identity for twenty years and then expect them to be your enthusiastic friend & ally the moment you find a cause you think they should care about.

Side Rant: The accusation "Would Jesus say something like that? He never condemned anyone!" is absolute BS. Jesus condemned people in The Bible.