Ronova, Mitya and Paimon (Part 2)

Spoiler for 7.0 Archon Quest Act 1 & 2. Do not read if you have not finished the quest.

This is part 2 of my theory regarding Ronova and the curse of Death. Reading part 1 is not necessary for understanding part 2, but feel free to read if you are interested

In Act 1, Ronova answered some questions from the traveller and Mitya. Some of the answers she said really stood out to me. At first, I thought she was being evasive and giving non responses, like Mitya had pointed out. However, once I thought through it more, Ronova’s answers made sense.

For context: she said people die because it was “their time to die” and if she wanted someone gone, she can do it quite easily. “Death abides no reason” after all, “for it cannot be defied even those who see it coming” (God’s Limits)

Genshin fate runs through compatibalism, that certain canonical events itself is fixed (fontaine’s prophecy.etc) but can be changed through deception (focalors sacrificing herself) or/and through travellers intervention (descender). Thus, knowing the future ahead of time does not stop canon events on happening, but it changes the end result to be either bad(fontainians dissolve from the flood) or good(fontaine’s citizens survive). Regardless, the flood had to happen either way.

so, while death itself, Ronova, cannot be defied, it can be fooled. Ronova has to be present for all curses of death and farrying souls to the afterlife. This is supported in the folklore of Snezhnaya that the grim reaper appears when you die in a familiar form, and how Ronova appeared every time while the curse of death is in effect.

Form the cutscene: the traveller was only able to get a scratch on her because she was distracted and nervous that the researchers + mitya may see her. Hence, If Traveller + others fight her to distract her while the weapon is made and speeding up the recovery of the curse, the weapon would finally be completed for the Tsarista to use against Ronova.

Which brings to my next point.

Ronova only kills who she deems it neccessary to kill. She could have killed the traveller, or mitya, or the researchers. But she didn’t. Instead, she targets Paimon out of all people, even if Paimon has no power or authority of Celestia. Why kill Paimon then if she is not a “supposed threat” compared to Mitya developing the weapon?

Therefore, Paimon is a threat to Ronova . Perhaps not now, but maybe sometime in the future. HP does not seem to like when beings like Paimon are free from Celestia’s governance and have their own agency. Paimon, while weak, is assisting the descender and able to dodge all attacks from all bosses traveller had ever faced (rerir, to name an example). Plus, Since Paimon is such an influential figure to the traveller and tied to the catalysm 500 years ago, no wonder Ronova wants to end Paimon. even if Ronova is not in a rush to claim paimon, its better to get rid of competitors ahead of time. (Related to dark forest theory)

Ronova ends Paimon because it’s “her time to die” but cannot kill Mitya, traveller and researchers because it’s not their time to die yet. While a circular argument, it makes sense since lay lines would record and accept the soul’s death. Since the curse of death is temporary, the lay lines do not fully process the death as pernament since “its not their time to die”. That is her limit as a Shade. This is essentially the reason why the curse of immortality works as well; lay lines refuses to accept khanerian’s souls, hence they live on.

Part 3 will explain more on the ties of The Three Body Problem series and how its more relevant than ever on Genshin’s 7.0 :))

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u/Chiktori — 2 days ago

Ronova, Dottore and Mitya

Spoiler for 7.0 Archon Quest Act 2 and Welkin Moon Quests in advance. Do not read if you have not finished the quest.

When Ronova cursed Mitya and the other through the Curse of Death, it made me wonder if there is a radius that the curse can’t reach (It reminds me of the animated trailer “The God’s Limits”). Apparently, the curse only affects the immediate vicinity of people nearby when forbidden of thoughts and experiments are accomplished. Hence, Odette can come to the research room unharmed and finding Mitya “dead”.

The second thing that came to mind is the eye mark that is on Mitya’s hand. It does not seem to be a simple drawing out of blood at all. In fact, I believe Ronova has left it there to monitor Mitya for good (glowing mark). Thus, Mitya seeing it even when he is alive makes it very clear that Ronova is establishing dominance that she is always watching his next moves.

(It might be a stretch, but I partially think that is also the why he completely remembered the entire death sequence, similar to the Traveller who is a descender)

This raises an important question. Why does Dottore, a scientist who has exposed the false sky, willing to emulate the three moon goddesses powers, and corrupted irminsul get away from the Curse of Death scot free, while Mitya has one thought and instantly dies.

At first, I thought that Dottore’s segments protect him from the curse of death, but I eliminated that idea. Dottore is bounded by Irminsul’s lay lines, and had forgotten (probably?) who Wanderer/Scaramouche is until he accessed Irminsul’s data. Therefore, Dottore is not immune to the curse of death, like most other citizens of Teyvat. Even a descender like traveller is not immune either, so why would Dottore be?

Which brings to my next point.

All of Dottore’s experiments are within the bounds of Teyvats rules, stretched to the very limit. Corrupting irminsul is not the biggest concerned of HP because irminsul is isolated in sumeru as a protective measure, so the rest of Tevyat is not affected. In their eyes Sumeru could be destroyed by irminsul as long as Tevyat as a whole stays safe.
the shades are also reluctant to get rid of irminsul because Nahida’s existence was tied to it (until she seperated it to Aeru) and that it’s a treasured artifact by HP. They only granted because Nahida explained clearly that it was corrupted beyond repair and that Nahida was willing to throw “her life achievements” away.
To conclude, the curse of death does not trigger on Dottore because he is still abiding to Tevyats laws even if hes manipulating it. Think of it as granting the user permissions but not hacking to become Admin.

On the other hand, the experiment Mitya and the other researchers are making are visually tied to Tsarista’s weapon from the trailer, due to the dna strand designs. She used the weapon to duel with Ronova to presumably get rid of Ronova for good. This potentially can overthrow HP; basically hacking for admin permissions through a backdoor.

Obviously, this is extremely dangerous for Ronova and she used the curse to delay breakthroughs and completing the weapon. Her curse has a limit to accept increments of knowledge, but not a conclusion. Mitya has established this at the end of the Act. Why that did not trigger the curse of death baffled me until I realize the death curse is only related to the Project specifically.

Part 2 will be relevant to how they would deal with the curse of death by possibly fighting Ronova to keep her distracted while the researchers finish their weapons. It also will explain why Amosday trapped the travellers instead of letting them escape, and why this all connects together with 7.0 (Dark Forest Theory)

stay tuned for more :3

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u/Chiktori — 3 days ago

Got to S+ for the first time!

Did it after 295 hours :0

I’m so happy with myself

u/Chiktori — 29 days ago

Recreated the gold set room

I didn’t want to pay 10,000 in game dollars so I drew it myself instead. I used living the grid website for the pixels and then added some creative liberties.

u/Chiktori — 2 months ago

Dress for lumity

I was proud of how this dress turned out so I thought I would share

u/Chiktori — 3 months ago

I felt like making another jean edit but this time the genshin profile + her skin

u/Chiktori — 4 months ago