Sorry I did look and I see in older Sony phones you could save both jpeg and raw, is that also true for the VIII? I know it only does 12mp raw so if using raw+jpeg does jpeg also have to be set to 12mp?
I'm still forever on a search for a natural looking phone to go alongside my actual camera and Sony seems an option!
I recently took the BF and 20-200 to Silverstone for a historic race to see how it would cope - just a test really as obviously with no mechanical shutter, and a slow and limited zoom none of it was really "designed" for such shots but it's the camera I have!
I have to say I was very pleasantly surprised... Yes rolling shutter is very real and ideally you want to not have them planning past you, but the auto focus is very good, and even later in the day you can let the iso creep up on this camera to keep shutter speed good - so overall it did way better than I expected! (As usual I am not great at the photography but I thought the camera captured shots well!)
In terms of editing all I've done is some colour edit in SPP (I think these are all 709 with +1 look effect and daylight white balance to knock the warmth back a bit compared to auto, except the one B&W shot). Also some of these are *very* cropped, so for example the 2 F1 cars there id say I've cropped in to maybe half or less of the original image, so any lack of sharpness there is simply because in reality the cars were a good distance away!
Hello all - I guess the answer to this is test test test but... Was recently in London with my BF and 20-200 sigma lens and noticed an odd effect on this photo... I've seen it every now and again before so thought I'd ask... It seems to have a light circle around half way out from the centre and be darker both in the centre and to the outside. This was taken at 136mm according to the data on it...
... My question is, is this just a limitation of such a wide ranging zoom lens like this? Or is it the protection filter maybe (I have a sigma ceramic one on)?
I do find this lens sometimes doesn't fully correct it's vignetting but this one is odd as it's not just a vignette!
Also - I realise it's not a good photo! A) I'm not actually good at photography, I just enjoy it, and B) It was just the one where this effect came up!
That said - I do find I often struggle to keep control between *not* blowing out all the highlights but then not being way too muted and dark like this one came out. I find it often happens when there's a lot of blank sky in the image... So any tips on that much appreciated (though I can usually recover something editing after).
Hi guys - this is one of the in-camera "look" adjustments but unlike the others fade is not then a setting in sigma photo pro?
I know this is lazy but before I test it myself - if I use a fade Setting in camera will it appear in SPP as a combo of saturation, highlight etc? I guess what I'm checking is would it be reversible in edit (I assume yes!?)?
Thanks!
Hi all - as a by no means expert on this stuff (I use gfn on a Mac mini and a rarely used switch 2) I was keeping an eye on this as a machine that might meet my needs (keyboard and mouse player, small, runs steam pc library).
However watching the LTT review and they make it sound like the Ray Tracing performance is a bit of a deal breaker as more and more games require it, and this simply won't perform for it? How big an issue is it, do we expect most future games to need it? Do we expect performance to at least be usable!?
Or will RT be the least of its issues on future titles anyway!? (At least gfn would help there with whatevers on that library)?
Also slightly delayed but will Gfn be simple on the machine (Is there a native browser?) - thanks!
Hi all, as most of my photos tend to be holiday stuff that includes landscapes and foliage, I've continued trying to find a sweet spot for clouds especially the green - yellow shift and some warmth in white balance.
Here's an image where I've done 4 versions - standard profile and auto white balance, t709 auto white balance, t709 "daylight" white balance, and t709 +1 look effect and daylight white balance.
Personally I think the latter gets the best colours... 709 fixes the greens but in city shots does tend to warm buildings etc. I've noticed auto white balance in sunlight leaves some warming, but switching to daylight setting fixes this.... Though I assume that will be less successful when not in daylight sunlight when taking the photo!
Also one thing I found is standard with look effect -5 seems identical to 709 base, but as you go + on 709 or go to standard -3 or 0 etc standard moves the greens yellow while 709 holds them green but adds punch / saturation.
Interested what others think and have found... I'm really trying to find a "standard" setting where most images come out ok on jpeg, then I edit a few dngs where required... Whereas I've been finding anything with foliage needs a bunch of editing so far (so am planning to try 709 and auto white balance or 709+1 look and daylight as a default).
So have a trip coming up where at times if I take my camera on the trip I'll have no choice but to leave it in my vehicle for a day - and the weather / temps inside the vehicle will be reaching high 30's / 40's even. Obviously I can remove the battery and carry that with me to protect it, but am I risking any permanent or even temporary condensation damage to the lens if it sits and gets that hot then gets cooled again by the Aircon of the vehicle when I get back to it?
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My gut says it can't be a problem, but this post is in case I'm missing anything!? (Other than the battery which id remove).
So after the earlier post saying the new update had "fixed" master mode by making the photos vivid, I was worried as that's the opposite of what I want in my photos.. so taking advantage of a rare sunny day at the end of work I had a quick walk round with the oppo x9u and the xiaomi 17u to see what the colours were like and...
...oh man do I not like master mode. Was it always like this or is this due to the update?
I've uploaded 4 photos - xiaomi authentic (base colors ok but they've stupidly overdone vignetting in the 17u) and vibrant (more realistic colors than I expected), and oppo photo mode (also more realistic than I expected) and... Master mode - where they seek to have decided "never mind what colour the sky really is - we will paint over it in totally unrealistic deep vivid blue. Also while we're at it never mind what colour the trees are, we'll paint over it in a fake deep vivid green and remove all the realistic yellow tint on the leaves from the sunlight".
All 4 were auto except removing the vignette off master.
However that said I've hardly been able to shoot with this phone, so.... Is this what Master Mode was *always* like? I guess I always thought less processed would also mean less fake colours, but was I wrong? But disappointed if my options are now between bad colors or way too much ai processing but I guess I'll be on photo mode and maybe some kind of natural filter!?
Hi all, following from a recent post where some of us discussed the cameras tendency to yellow out foliage, I had a play round in SPP to see what the effect of some simple adjustments are on colour. I chose ones which can be set in camera itself if needed, and used a photo which I thought would work well for it from my camera roll - mixed greens foliage and green water but with sky and concrete too, to see how much "cast" across the whole image and adjustment would make.
The images are all std colour profile -
Std profile
-2 look effect
-4 look effect
+2 blue AWB adjust
+2 green AWB adjust
+2 blue AND green AWB adjust
(Hopefully my scrawl makes it clear which is which).
Personally I think the sweet spot is either -2 or -3 look effect to get more realistic greens without wrecking other colours (though even then at times you have to watch out what it can do to the sky)... I find the AWB adjustments add too much cast across the image.
Anyway - thought this may help any others who are similar to me in really not wanting to do much post editing but wanting realistic images sooc.
I continue to be baffled by how the manufacturers apply the camera cases to their flagships. It's great to have a big lens for occasional use, but other than that the actual case -
Oppo like Vivo don't let you have the zoom toggle for the *optical* focal lengths. So great thanks, I have a zoom dial but 99% of the time it'll give me a bag digital crop at 9x rather than just going 3 - 6 - 10. I think Xiaomi are the only ones who do this well?
The Oppo manages to still have the downside of a grip (makes phone bulkier, won't fit in stands or on magnets) but don't bother using it as a battery and actually don't make it thick enough to... Grip. It seems a bizarre middle ground with all the downside and none of the upside. Vivo go the other way and make it so the damn phone is bigger than a camera.
Oppo then crown this with a bizarre decision to mount a tripod ring on the 67mm filter thread adaptor so you also can't just use a filter to protect the lens in dirty / dusty environments.
My final gripe is, given the case clearly ain't defined to be used daily, man is it stiff and not nice to remove from the phone.
Xiaomi is better on all this but then.. doesn't bother doing an extender at all 😂
Can't work out if this fad will disappear or if at some point they'll all put more thought into it.
Anyway rant over but am I missing any of the following -
A way to either change the zoom lever to activate ev or something?
Change it to only zoom to fixed focal lengths (14 23 35 70 230 etc)?
Is there a third Party adaptor that'll let you put a normal 67mm filter on without the tripod mount?
I am slightly confused as to the *absolute best* image settings to use in the camera app (x9u) and then the sharing issue. My confusing is I see people saying not to use Heif/hevc(?) but that it will lose some HDR quality doing so - but I always assumed saving in those formats were "more efficient", eg worse quality, than just saving in jpeg? What format should I save in for max image quality?
Also - does Master mode have the same sharing issues... As it *does* still have hdr, just not the same extreme (I hate extreme HDR anyway)?!
Does the issue with quality going bad still exist if you share from Google photos to say Facebook or WhatsApp hd instead of straight from the camera?
Sorry for all the questions - just trying to understand exactly what the issue is and how best to share images!
Annoyingly away from phone for a few days but impatient so wondering if anyone else knows... I got this charger and used with the x9 ultra to charge... The settings in the phone were to quiet charge so lower wattage (I wanted to keep heat low and protect battery) - however now reading the blurb with the charger it seems to suggest this should have meant the charger fan did not run... But it definitely did (seemed quiet though)!?
If I set it to low power on the charger itself is this not the same!? Just wondering what the various options are here a single thought it was set it on phone *or* charger but now it seems maybe its different... Does everyone else's charger still use the fan in low power mode?
Final query - it is only one side of the charger pick that's magnetized right?
Anyone seen any videos which show more than a fleeting glance of the phone in a case? I'm deciding on colour and always use a case so that's actually more important to me than the phone finish itself!
Hi all, I'm using the X9U - the font size within widgets like Gmail and calendar don't seem to change when I update the font in main system settings - anyone know how I can change the font size in each app and widget?
Thanks!
In theory is the "current" wireless charger for oppo this mini turbine 2 thing that come with a desk mount?
In my market there's hardly any first party stuff (in stock at least) and I've had some bad experience with wireless in the past so want to use main brand items!
Also I assume anything OnePlus is direct compatible as they're the same company?
(This is for X9U)
Hi all,
Not spotted this posted and it's also quite hidden on the Sony UK website but fyi you can swap out the xm6 headphones for the xm6 earbuds as the free item you get alongside a half price case with a viii.
When selecting a preorder bundle it lets you customize each item, and at the bottom underneath the colours for the headphones are the earbuds.
Thought that might come in handy for people!
They now have 3 different grips at 3 different prices - "loop", "axis" and "black leather".
The only differ need I see are black leather looks like loop + some leather in the grip insert, and axis looks like loop but boxier higher grip.
Does anyone *know* though, as $100 just for a leather insert seems high which isn't a dig but makes me think theres other differences I can't see!? They haven't responded to emails and the website doesn't seem to explain any of the difference so wondered if anyone else knew?
Has anyone got this combo... Given the different phone thickness I'm worried whether the fit is all off on the explorer kit if used on an orange phone, or more cosmetically if there's odd places where the orange comes through and ruins the look!?
It's odd as it's not that it's just out of stock - they've literally removed the product from their website!?
It's a lovely looking finish phone but I always rock a case, the official case is carbon I think and the earth explorer one includes the big camera grip thing, so ..
Anyone found clear cases or matching cases for the tundra version of the x9u anywhere?