u/Devilcrash007

I had already posted this in r/EscapefromTarkov without realising there was an official r/EscapeFromArena , so here it is, you'll get to see it twice ;)

I'd appreciate any upvotes on this, for the #TarkovArenaStyle Outfit Competition !

https://x.com/MrSiply/status/2085827205418848697?s=20

I'd appreciate any upvotes on this, for the #TarkovArenaStyle Outfit Competition !

https://x.com/MrSiply/status/2085827205418848697?s=20

Question: I'm trying to find a genuinely premium keycap set for a Wooting 60HE v2 ANSI Split / black OW60 build.

My preference is:

• Cherry profile
• 1.6mm+ PBT
• Doubleshot preferred, high-quality dye-sub is fine
• Opaque / non-shine-through
• 2.75u + 1.25u + 2.25u actual spacebars, preferably convex
• Black / charcoal / dark grey, with optional restrained red accents

I'm also willing to consider GMK/premium ABS even though it falls outside the ideal PBT/thickness spec if the quality and colourway are worth it.

Research: I've already gone through a lot of WS PBT, NicePBT, KAP/Keyreative, PBTfans and GMK sets. The thing that keeps catching me out is manufacturers saying "Alice compatible" or "split spacebars" without actually confirming a 1.25u spacebar alongside the 2.25u and 2.75u bars.

I'm in the UK, happy to order internationally, but ideally need something available within around 7-14 days without the landed cost becoming silly. No real budget ceiling if the set is worth it.

Are there any premium manufacturers, older sets, obscure kits or separate spacebar kits I should be looking at?

I'm putting together a Wooting 60HE v2 ANSI Split build in the black OW60 with GravaStar UFO magnetic switches, and keycaps are the last part I'm struggling to settle on.

I'm mainly looking for Cherry profile, preferably 1.6mm+ premium PBT, non-shine-through/opaque. Doubleshot would be ideal, although genuinely good dye-sub is completely fine. I'm also open to GMK or other premium ABS if the set is exceptional.

The awkward part is the split spacebar layout. I need 2.75u / 1.25u / 2.25u actual spacebars, preferably proper convex spacebars. I've found quite a few sets advertised as "Alice" or "split-space compatible" that don't seem to actually include the 1.25u spacebar.

Colour-wise I'm after black, charcoal or dark grey, ideally with restrained red accents to work with the OW60 rather than a heavily red set.

I'm UK-based, but happy to buy internationally as long as shipping + VAT/import costs don't get ridiculous. Ideally I want something in hand within 7-14 days, so in-stock or secondary-market options rather than group buys.

I've already been looking through WS PBT, NicePBT, KAP/Keyreative, PBTfans and GMK, but I'm interested in anything genuinely premium that I've missed. Budget isn't really the concern here, I'm prioritising feel, sound, thickness, quality and the finished look.

Has anyone with the 60HE v2 split-space layout found a premium set that definitely has the correct three spacebars?

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^ If I may kindly request and ask for any support shown on this post! ❤️

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If it’s the first time booting it up in the morning, the full light seems to be white, then flickers a little bit after logging in, and progressively gets more yellow hue?

Then the next day, it’s back to being white again?

Coreliquid 360R V2

I want to give proper feedback on the current Echo Belli crates, because the reaction around them has been noticeably more negative than Ref’s Drop I. This is not just a case of “people are mad because they did not get the item they wanted.” The issue is the way the system combines paid Battle Pass progression, low rarity odds, resetting chances, and no reliable path toward the item a player is actually chasing.

The short version is this:

Echo Belli crates feel brutal because the player can spend real money, convert that into Battle Pass/Battle Point progress, open crates, miss the item they want repeatedly, and still make almost no meaningful progress toward that specific item. Even when a crate gives Battle Points back, it is only a partial rebate and does not solve the core issue.

From the current BattlePass Level purchase structure, if a player is already at Level 100, buying 10 Battle Pass levels appears to give 30 Battle Points plus up to 20 additional Battle Points from max-level compensation. That means a €5 purchase can effectively become 50 Battle Points. Since an Echo Belli crate costs 30 Battle Points, each crate works out to around:

€3.00 / £2.60 / $3.50

There is also a possible 15 Battle Point return within the unwanted reward pool. If the unwanted chance is 64.28%, and 1 in 3 of that unwanted outcome gives 15 Battle Points back, the average rebate is roughly 3.21 Battle Points per crate. That puts the adjusted average crate cost at around:

€2.68 / £2.32 / $3.12 after average Battle Point rebate

On paper, that might sound tolerable. The problem appears when you connect that price to the actual reward odds.

The displayed legendary chance appears to be around 0.81%. At that rate, the average number of crates needed for one legendary is roughly 123 crates. Using the rough crate cost above, that means one legendary can sit around:

€370 / £321 / $432 before average rebates

or around:

€331 / £287 / $385 after average rebate value

That is not for a specific legendary, either. That is just for one legendary at all.

This is where the system starts to feel extremely unfair. If the player wants a specific item, or multiple items, the experience becomes much worse. Players are not just fighting rarity odds, they are fighting the absence of a proper safety net. There is no clear pity system, no clear duplicate protection, no direct purchase option, and no way to turn repeated failed pulls into guaranteed progress toward the item they actually want.

The reset behaviour makes this even more frustrating. If the chance resets after getting an item of a given rarity, then the system does not feel like it rewards long-term grinding. It feels like every meaningful step forward gets wiped, and players are sent back into the same low-probability loop again. That is why people are saying it can take 80, 100, or more crates to get one top-end reward. Mathematically, that is not even unreasonable. It is exactly the kind of result this system creates.

The other issue is perception. When a crate is tied to real money, even indirectly through Battle Pass levels and Battle Points, the standard needs to be much higher. Players are not just spending in-game currency. Some are spending real money on Battle Pass levels, then converting that into crates, then receiving mostly low-value outcomes. If the results feel unusually harsh, bugged, or inconsistent with the displayed chances, that damages trust very quickly.

Even if the odds are technically working as displayed, the system still feels bad. If the odds are not working as displayed, then this needs to be treated seriously and corrected quickly.

What I think should happen:

1. BSG should publicly clarify how Echo Belli crate odds work

The community needs a clear explanation of whether the displayed odds are per item, per rarity, or affected by previous pulls. If rarity chances reset after receiving an item, that should be clearly explained in the crate UI. If duplicate protection does not exist, that should also be obvious before players spend currency.

1. BSG should audit the Echo Belli crate results

Given the amount of negative feedback and the number of players reporting extreme dry streaks, the crate system should be checked. If the odds are functioning correctly, say that. If they are not, acknowledge it and fix it.

1. Add a pity system

There should be a guaranteed high-rarity reward after a certain number of crates. For example, after 30, 40, or 50 crates without a legendary, the next crate should guarantee one. A paid crate system with sub-1% top-end odds and no pity system is always going to feel predatory.

1. Add duplicate protection or progress tokens

If a player receives an item they already own, they should get meaningful compensation toward the items they do not own. Alternatively, every crate should give a token, and those tokens should be spendable on specific Echo Belli items.

1. Add direct purchase options

If the goal is monetisation, then let players directly buy the item they want at a clear price. RNG can exist for players who like gambling on crates, but it should not be the only path.

1. Improve Battle Point returns

A 15 Battle Point return helps slightly, but it does not solve the underlying issue. If a crate costs 30 Battle Points, then unwanted rewards should provide better progress toward another attempt, especially when the player is receiving low-value or duplicate items.

1. Compensate players who already spent heavily

This is important. If players have already spent large amounts of time or money opening Echo Belli crates under a system that is this punishing, they should not be ignored.

A fair compensation package could include:

• Battle Point refunds based on the number of Echo Belli crates opened
• Bonus Echo Belli crates for players who opened crates before any adjustment
• A selectable Echo Belli reward token for players who opened a high number of crates
• Guaranteed legendary compensation for players who opened 80, 100, or more crates without receiving one
• Stronger compensation if an audit finds the displayed odds were bugged or misleading

This would not just be “free stuff.” It would be a trust repair measure.

The frustrating thing is that Ref’s Drop I seemed to go over much better. Echo Belli feels like a step in the wrong direction. The cosmetics and rewards are interesting, but the crate structure makes the event feel worse than it needs to. Instead of feeling like a rewarding seasonal chase, it feels like an expensive slot machine with no meaningful bad-luck protection.

I do not think players are asking for everything to be handed out instantly. People are fine with grind. People are fine with rarity. But when real money is involved, the system needs to respect the player’s time and wallet.

Right now, Echo Belli crates do not feel respectful of either.

I am sure a fair few of you saw my recent Ninetales & Deoxys posts. I just finished off that original Chaos Rising Booster Bundle from Pokemon Center and ended up with 7 of these cards total.

Thoughts?