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so bukas mangangasiwa sila, and gusto nila na sumamba yung mga kapatid na mang aawit sa iba’t ibang grupo na kahit nakasamba na eh sumamba pa rin daw. humihingi ng tulong yung pastor namin na ikampanya raw na makadalo. hindi ko lang maintindihan, para saan ba? ano yan concert at may quota na kailangan padaluhin? nalulugod ba si Angelo niyan pag marami ang dumalo? pagsamba yan eh diba walang sapilitan dapat and once is enough for the weekend. need ba niya ng suporta? hahahaha di ko talaga sila gets

yep. you’ve read that right. for context, yesterday, I‘ve already told my parents I wanted to step out of my tungkulin which is choir and things escalated when I told them I disagree with the teachings and what’s going on with inc right now, in which how they‘re so much involved with politics. so things continued to happen—I kept questioning and asking, and they kept defending. thinking I’m losing faith and about to lose my mind. they think I won’t have a good future, ruin it, and will go astray. saying things in which makes me feel really bad for saying things and opening up.

I kept defending how wrongful teachings in inc are—one is them believing Jesus is just a mere human. I even read bible verses and tried to tell them what’s written. and you know what? instead of trying to listen and understand, they just told me to not rely on my own understanding. instead, seek for ministers’ guidance and teachings. they even tried to recommend me to a minister if I have questions. so that’s when they kept saying and BEGGING me to stop reading the bible. it didn’t last just that moment, even before I slept they reminded me. BEGGED me. because it might also ruin their reputation, or worse, removal or expulsion. they just kept begging me to stop, saying how it makes my mind confuse and lose faith. they even told me to stop scrolling or read what I see online esp about inc and politics. to not believe everything I see on social media. and that‘s what keep me soooo frustrated. I cried so much yesterday.

I just felt like I had no freedom at all. how they keep on insisting me to just follow and everything will go right. to just stay inside the church. it saddens me how much brainwashed they truly are. right now I just felt a bit uncomfy being alone with my parents, and felt distant. they‘ve been strict with me all my life and the reason is because we live in inc compound. they want me now to keep closer to them but it just makes me distant towards them. honestly idk what to do anymore.

so kanina, biglang nagsabi yung tatay ko out of nowhere kasi nasa sala kami, “makinig ka sa leksyon ngayon, tungkol sa social media ah… mag ingat sa mga nababasa“. wala pa naman ako sa mood, mas lalo pa nasira gabi ko dahil na naman sa mga agenda ng inc na yan.

see how effective the lessons are sa mga OWE kasi sobrang manipulated and blinded sila sa mga napapakinggan nila. totoo naman na we should be careful online, pero not to the extent na puro socmed na lang leksyon para lang matabunan mga kasinungalingan ng inc dahil sobrang threatened nila dahil nasa social media na ngayon ang mga katotohanan.

yan kasi tactics nila para mas ma-brainwash and ma-condition yung utak nila sa mga kasinungalingan ng kultong yan. it’s just sad how OWE parents would really give their all just for the sake of following the Manalo‘s rules.

so earlier, a source messaged that there could possibly be an upcoming rally on june 12 (this is still UNVERIFIED). they work as a volunteer in central so they have many connections. as soon as I saw the message, I got pissed.

honestly this is a good thing because inc will then again be seen as supporters of corruption, but at the same time saddening because how come a religious group openly support these trashy politicians for the sake of their own greed and connections?

hi! my fb just got suspended all of a sudden and also my inc friends got suspended. idk if it’s somewhat connected to inc and politics but is this just a normal encounter? are you guys also experiencing the same thing?

natiwalag kuya ko and for almost 2-3 years ay nagbabalikloob siya. see how long that is, sobrang oa. now that I’ve heard mag cocontinue na sa proseso yung kuya ko sa pagbabalik-loob, I badly don’t want him go further. I am desperate. yes, that would be the right term. ayoko na mag continue pa siya ulit dahil nasa labas na siya ng kultong ‘to. I have talked with him about inc and he’s still a believer although hindi ganon kasigla dati si kuya. i feel like he’s just trying to be defensive. I just want him to also get his eyes wide opened sa totoong kinabibilangan niya.

my parents seem happy now that makakapagbalik-loob na si kuya, but when I heard the news, I got disappointed. I want to talk to him, but how.

I feel so bad, blaming myself every single time, crying every time I remember the things my ex bf told me how much he‘s hurt. For context, we broke up because my ex-boyfriend got hurt by what he saw when we were at the gym. He said I looked at another guy six times with intent, but honestly, I couldn’t remember those moments because I didn’t mean to do it. He even reenacted it for me, but I just couldn’t argue because I didn’t recall anything, and I didn’t want to invalidate what he saw. Days and weeks passed, and we still talked. Every time we spoke, he’d say things like: “It still hurt,” “I’m going to get paler and bulk up so I’ll be enough“, “I just feel like I’m not enough”, “I got so insecure”, things like he wants to improve himself to feel enough. That he feels shy being around me because of what I might feel and think about him. And every time I tried to reassure him, he wouldn’t believe me. Instead, he’d just laugh it off or be sarcastic toward me.

He’d say those things to me even at random times. Sometimes, I’d tell him he should just stop talking to me or something like that, but I don’t know why he’s still here. He says he doesn’t know if we’ll ever be okay again. He tells me he still loves me, but he’s just really hurt by how he felt.

Now, I feel so bad about how he sees himself. I feel like it’s all my fault on why he got hurt, why he felt this way and thinks this way. I don’t know what to do and say anymore, my mind is just filled with all faults and blame towards myself. I just want him to be okay with himself again without those thoughts. I feel so responsible and accountable for what I made him feel. I want to make it up to him and prove he’s just fine just the way he is. But I don’t know what to do now. How do I handle this now?

When I was still an active member, I wanted to become a choir member because I used to think that it’s a big blessing and some say that being in a choir is much closer to god than an ordinary member. But before I got into it, they say that it’ll be a sacrificial duty—time, effort, practices etc.

Until my eyes opened. Every thing they make us do now drains me A LOT. The monthly meetings, practices (weekly sectionals, voice development, a month long extra practices for special occasions, extra practice for extra tupad), PLUS now the required policy to attend bible studies or doktrina.

And if you won’t attend any of that, you will have to write a salaysay signed by the pastor like wtf? even a simple pulong that you didn’t attend requires it. And if it’s about health issues, they would want you to provide a MED CERT. yes.

I’m so freaking tired during volunteer works and it drains the hell out of me. Every time I go to church, I‘m like a soulless person. It also makes my back painful for hours of sitting (I have health and back issues).

How do I make myself leave the choir? I badly want to but I’m kind of afraid of what my parents will tell me.

Anlala na talaga nila. I hope magkaroon ng documentary about INC’s whole big fat lie about being godly and exposing them being purely EVIL. Including the issues from 2015, their proudly Philippine Arena issue, the issues in some locals including in Manitoba, the fucking SCANs being sunod sunuran at grabe pa gawin sa mga tao, the Manalo’s family background issues and how they keep everything a fucking secret para lang di ma-expose kahihiyan nila, how they are so much connected to our government, the corruption happening inside that the members don’t even give a fuck kasi sobrang braindead nila, how Eduardo is being so heartless towards his OWN mother and family, and many other shitty things sa kultong ito.

Tangina. Nakakagalit na talaga sobra.

Siguro ang akala niyo si Jesus? Pero hindi. It’s none other than the CA himself. When I say pinakamalinis—tama parati at hindi nagkakamali. Isang proof na diyan ay ang tungkol sa pulitika. Kahit sobrang questionable at corrupt ng mga binoboto at pinapanigan nila, ang nasa isip ng mga miyembro ay tama na siya dahil kesyo “may basbas ang namamahala galing sa ama”. Kaya siguradong ang mga OWE na yan ay mahirap talaga makausap at makumbinsi sa katotohanan dahil sobrang bulag sila sa isipang tama parati ang namamahala. Sa mga panukala nila ukol sa iba’t ibang gawain gaya na lang ng mga TH at paglalagak kung saan kinukuha lamang naman ang mga halaga ng pera nila. May pagbabago ba sa buhay nila? Wala. Kawawa lang talaga sila na kahit gaanong naghihirap sila sa buhay ay pursigido pa rin sila dahil ito raw ay pagsunod at pagpapasakop sa namamahala. Kaya‘t madalas na iniignore na lang din nila ang mga nakikita nilang kadungisan ng INC dahil akala nila sobrang linis ng pamamalakad nila sa loob, puro defend pa yan talaga sila. Kung malaman ba nilang pumapatay talaga ang INC, mananatili ba silang bulag sa katotohanan kahit nasa harapan na nila? Marahil nga siguro, sa isip isip kasi nila tama ang relihiyong ito. Walang dungis, walang kakulangan.

So I tried chia seeds overnight soaked in water but after putting it on a glass of water and tried it, the outside was soft and has that gel texture meanwhile inside feels kinda crunchy. The mixture went like this: 2 spoonful of chia seed, mixed on a probably 2 or 3 cups of water, and then I stir it the first time. Waited for 15-30 mins until I lastly stir again. Then, I put it in a container probably enough for the mixture of both chia seeds and water. Now earlier this morning, I noticed that when I first put the mixture of chia seed (2 tablespoons) to the glass of water (a cup) to drink, it just settled at the bottom. So, I continued stirring it but still the texture felt the same. Now, I'm feeling something in my throat that there's something stuck and most probably because of the chia seeds. I don't know if it'll have negative affects on me.

Where did I possible go wrong? and is it right to just scoop a spoonful then add water and consume it after the overnight soaking? Any tips?

To all PIMOs, tiwalag, and non-church goers: How’s the relationship between you and your parents/ peers/ ka-lokals (noon) now that lumalayo na kayo sa inc or tiwalag na? I want to know if yung mga friends niyo sa lokal, kasama tumupad noon, or classmates na malapit eh still in good terms pa rin sainyo?

Do you guys lessen the amount of your abuloys now? sa mga PIMO and mga sumasamba pa.

Kasi I’ve been thinking na magbawas sa amount ng abuloy ko kasi I don’t think it’s going anywhere good and sayang? Maging ipon pa sana since galing sa parents ko rin yung hinahandog ko.

But, I feel guilty of just having a thought of it since as early as PNK, hinubog na tayo ng mga magulang natin sa inc na maghandog. Also because diba aral na maghandog dahil kahit papaano for the church naman?

I’m just planning to do so, ilalagay ko na lang sa sobre yung abuloy ko to avoid ”controversies“ sa mga katabi ko lol esp sa koro since I’m a choir member.

I just have a guilty feeling kasi baka mamaya magkasala ako ewan hahahaha just a genuine question.