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(I'm only talking about Hazbin Hotel here and not Helluva Boss btw.) The story and plot are really good and the characters are really lovable and have good development. Every character have its own personality and don't just exist to the sake of another character like some other shows(*cough cough* TADC *cough cough*). And we may not know much of some other characters like Cherri Bomb or Velvette, but guess what? The show still have THREE MORE SEASONS LEFT TO GIVE MORE ATTENTION TO THESE CHARACTERS. Judging these things and the show isn't even close from its ending is so dumb.

And being extra honest, the haters don't really hate the show because it's "horribly written"....they OBVIOUSLY hate it because of the artstyle, the fact that the story is (probably and most likely) breaking some of the rules in their religion, the fact that the characters are openly queer, and the fact that a man who breaks gender rules is one of the very main characters. They mock people for liking the show and can't leave us alone. The people who make fun of the fans are (mostly) people who doesn't care about other people's feelings and would never be convinced that it's okay for people to like things you don't personally like. Because they want every single person to be the same. I just know that some of the people out there hate Angel and say that he's "a bad written SA victim"(Wich is heavily not true because obviously a lot of people relate to him and not everyone respond to SA the same way other people do.) Because they hate the fact that they would look really bad if they didn't feel bad for him and they DON'T want to feel bad for him because he's 1-An openly gay man and 2-Breaks gender rules and is not perfect. (Not all of them if course, but dude, some of them are obviously like that.) they would say that the characters don't have character development and they don't even know shit about good writing and just want an excuse to hate it and justify themselves abusing people who like the show.

Thank you.

Please don't hate if you disagree. Just say your point like a sane adult.

VELVETTE ATTENTION!!! YAY!!!!!! Ig...

I just rewatched episode 6 of season 2, and holy shit I love Husk so much.

Bro is the only normal person here, and that's probably why he doesn't get enough love by the fandom and is underrated.

I'm sure we all expected him to be this grumpy "I don't give a shit about anything or anyone" kind of character but guess what? He's not! He just wasn't used to the people at the hotel at first and he hated it there because Alastor forced him to work there, wich is a honestly what anyone would do.

He's a good person to the point that he forgave Angel after knowing what he's going through and started offering support to him immediately (it doesn't mean that what Angel did was right, at all. But Husk understood his situation and gave him a chance and then Angel stopped what he was doing. Wich also, if we thought about it, says that Husk is a huge part of Angel becoming a better person).

I actually doubt he did something as horrible as the others to end up in hell. It's probably because he hurted people while he was drunk or something like that. But from what we saw in the show, he understands people and support them if they needed it. Drinking is his only problem and trust me we'll see that.

I also noticed that Husk don't really stop himself from loving others or getting too attached to people. He's seriously just...normal. He seems to understand his feelings without struggles, wich is something nice and unique to see in a character.

After the casino scene with Angel, we see that he didn't seem like he was afraid of the feelings he just grew for Angel. He actually seemed to *like* these feelings, even. He looked genuinely happy.

His life in hell was probably good before Alastor. Because he seems to be the most emotionally stable person in the show, even after everything Alastor had made him go through (Wich kinda reminds me of Pomni from The Amazing Digital Circus). But this also doesn't mean that he didn't have problems at all!(Aside from being an alcoholic. Maybe family problems or something else) He actually maybe had problems, but he was strong enough to not let them affect him much, at least not for a long time. Wich would be really nice to see, especially with his current personality and how he interacts with people.

(I actually didn't expect myself to write all of this when I made this post)

Really? Bro is comparing Vaggi working for Adam and doing something she didn't believe was right to her being happy to help Charlie and doing something she was comfortable with. And saying that Charlie IS ON THE WRONG.

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I don't even like Chaggi or care much about Charlie OR Vaggi. But people don't actually believe that this is a logical arrangements, right?

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When Vaggi used to work for Adam, she got her wings cut off, with Charlie, she got them back.

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She's happy being with Charlie, and they both really like each other. Don't bring Charlie doing mistakes in season two to this, because from what we all saw, Vaggi still fucking love her!! It really doesn't matter if YOU see that Charlie doesn't deserve to be forgiven by her gf, because guess what? The said gf actually forgave her and still love her!! And if you're going to say "Charlie is still a bad gf and doesn't deserve forgiveness because blah blah blah", please remember that Charlie is not the only one who do mistakes in the relationship. Vaggi hid the fact that she's an angel for FOUR YEARS. Charlie's mistakes were out of stress and being under literal threat, and Vaggi had all the time to tell her partner about her IDENTITY yet she didn't. I'm not saying Vaggi is straight up a bad person for being scared, but I don't see people saying that she's a bad person for doing THIS while Charlie is getting SO much hate for doing some mistakes. If we go by this logic, Vaggi is as bad as Charlie if not worse. But they both did something wrong, and they still love and understand each other. That's what really matters.

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A woman doing the dishes because she wants to is not the same as a woman being forced to do it!! And this should be obvious!

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Bro really said those words in a way that makes the situation really look bad, but in fact it isn't! Of course you'd say that it's a horrible thing when you put it in the way that this bro did! When you hear "This person trained the woman to fight!" And "This made her do the dishes" of course you'll see that it's horrible! But in fact, this woman CLEARLY prefered doing the dishes to help her gf that she REALLY LOVES!!! She's okay with it, no one is forcing her, but then we call Charlie the bad person when Adam made Vaggi KILL PEOPLE against her will.

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Come on, we don't genuinely really believe that, right?

For me it's Dipper, Flame princess, Gumball and Angel Dust.

I wanted to add Deku

But his real name isn't really a mystery

You probably have seen this DISGUSTING "Angel don't blame yourself" trend. If you don't know where this came from, it's from a streamer who does Hazbin (and Helluva) reaction videos. They have cried during a lot of Angel's scenes(The scene where we see Val abusing him for the first time. And they also teared up in the end of the Addicted music video.) But the most important part here, is that they cried during Poison....and A LOT, and I mean A LOT of people said that they shouldn't be crying and that they're too old to cry "over a cartoon" and that they're too sensitive....people are saying this about a person crying over SA SCENES!! ABUSE SCENES!!!! And NO ONE is saying that this is wrong!!!!! In Poison Angel is literally getting tortured in the worse possible ways and people are MAKING FUN OF IT! What is WRONG with you people?!?!!!! I mean look at this comment, man! "It's not that bad" LIKE SHUT UP!!! "Not that bad" (they say as they see a character getting raped). Hazbin haters are simply getting out of hand...

I just really love the fact that straight characters are treated the same as queer characters. I know that this should be normal anywhere, but alot of the haters of the Hellavers that I've seen say that Viv is "straightphobic" because she has alot of gay characters. Or sometimes say "Name me one straight character in Hazbin, I dArE YuO" and blah blah blah. And Viv saying that there's going to be more straight characters and probably ships is only making this better(saying this as a queer person).

He DOESN'T wanna be there y'all. Trust. Look at his eyebrows, this is the WORSE fake smile I've ever seen him make!!!(Oh also Vox has a body, that's great.....and Angel's last years outfit was MUCH better in my opinion. I don't really like this one much but that doesn't mean he doesn't look pretty, he DOES because he looks pretty in anything BUT last year's outfit was much better.) Do you allow me to be a little delusional though? If yes, notice how he's glancing away at another thing...

The merch till now is telling us everything about Husk's mental state in season three. I bet he's going to be like this for like half the season. I'm sad that they're not together....but also happy because this makes the ship deeper and the more we suffer the more we'll be happy when they're finally canon. So, win win?...lose lose? Idk.

Husk isn't happy....AGAIN. First the Valentine's day merch, now THIS?!

He wants his boyfriend to celebrate pride with him, y'all....my boy is so done with everything. Give him his Angel back. Huskerdusters are literally suffering the entire time DAMN IT

I freaking loved the begging when Blitzø said "So we can get your money!....your support- but hey, we're actually queer! And- and we want money".

Other than that I really loved everything about it😭 the marketing and the random jokes that are *actually* funny(Blitzø being disappointed that Loona is not Ace because he doesn't wanna know about her sex life and saying that he'll *snap your neck for cuddling with the Loona plushie* I LOVE BLITZØ). And WDYM WE HAVE PRIDE TRADING CARDS AND A WATER BOTTLE?! why is this so perfect?!

1-Poison. 2-Loser Baby 3-Losing Streak 4-More Than Anything 5-Mastermind

Think about it this way: season one is where they become friends, season two is Husk falling in love with Angel, season three is Angel falling for Husk, season four is them being in love with each other and being adorable and lovey dovey. Aaaand their first kiss will most likely be in the end of season four, and season five will(hopefully and most likely) show them dating casually the entire season!. Till now? We didn't see Angel giving any honest signs about being in love with Husk. But Husk? Yeah, Husk definitely did.

(Aaaaand they dated for like a few months but then Angel dumped him....maybe. Because this doesn't make sense.)