How should the Left address the lower class and middle class that are frustrated with the benefit cliff problem?

I’m a conservative. From my perspective the main goal of the Left is to raise the minimum standard of living primarily with government redistribution programs.

This a noble goal and often the means of how to achieve the goal is highly debated, but what’s not talked about enough is the glaring problem with the goal itself. Which is the benefit cliff problem. If you’re primary focus is to raise the the minimum quality of life to a traditional middle class lifestyle then what’s the point of putting in the extra effort to raise yourself out of the lower class and into the middle lower class and even the middle class.

As the lower class benefits from government programs like SNAP, Medicaid, subsidies housing, child care subsidies, etc. in an attempt to raise the minimum quality of life it leads to the lower class having the same purchasing power of the lower middle class, and even the same purchasing power of the middle class in some instances. This has led to a lot of frustration among people who feel like they make too little money to buy anything, but they make too much to receive any government help.

I think it’s fair to say that the Left has primarily addressed working class republicans in the past by either making some racism allegations or saying they love billionaires/think they will become billionaires. Rarely if ever will the Left address the frustration that these people have for our welfare state in regard to the benefit cliff problem.

I don’t want this thread answers to turn into fixing the benefit cliff problem with less means test and a more robust welfare state. I’m not interested in hearing hypothetical utopian welfare solutions. I want to hear current thoughts on our current welfare, and more importantly I want to hear thoughts on the lower middle class and middle class frustrations on the current system and how the Left should handle those frustrations.

Edit: There’s been a lot of responses. Basically all of them are addressing solutions to the benefit cliff problem with universal government programs despite the fact that specifically said I don’t want to hear hypothetical utopian welfare solutions; I want to know how the left should address the people frustrated with the current state of the welfare state which no comments did. But I guess the Left can address the people frustrated by selling them hypothetical utopia welfare solutions. The problem I have with these universal programs being proposed deserves its own discussion, but I’m going to say it anyway. Progressive pushing these policies never do basic math. If we actually want Medicare for all then we should raise the 1.45% (2.9% combined) FICA tax the employees and employers currently pay to 16%(32% combined). If we implement a UBI and eliminated all of our current means tested welfare program including disability and fired a million plus government employees along with their agencies then maybe we could do a $400 UBI to every American, but thats only while maintaining a 2 trillion dollar deficit. If progressives actually made their policies with basic math in mind then we could have an honest discussion and I might even be in favor of their policies.

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u/EscapeTheCubicle — 5 days ago
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I sold today after hours.

I’ve been buying Frmi for the past week for a short term trade. I had 487 shares at an average price of $6.22 and sold them all at $7.76.

I felt very strongly that a tenant would be announced and then there would be a rally. I have no idea what the stock price will do in the near future which is why I sold. I want to buy back in, but I have no idea how to value this stock.

I’m not looking for or giving any advice. I just wanted to share my thoughts.

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u/EscapeTheCubicle — 2 months ago

[TOMT][Manga]An 18 year old girl of a duke has to marry a 7 year old prince.

In the first few chapters the main girl who is 18 or about to be 18 was asked to attend a party for the young prince(the young prince was about 7 or maybe even younger). She didn’t want to go but was made to go by her father, a duke, since a marriage into royalty would boost their family status.

At the party the main girl is the only one of the potential suitors who isn’t a child. She is very helpful to the other children and she starts playing a musical instrument (I think it was the harp) , but then one of the kids accidentally breaks her harp and she has to borrow a new one.

Edit: I read this at a Barnes & Nobel

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u/EscapeTheCubicle — 2 months ago

Are young conservatives pro AI?

I know that young liberals hate AI, but I’m not sure about the young conservatives stance.

I’m an older Gen Z software developer and I’m very pro AI.

My definition of being pro AI means I want my country, United States, to develop it at full speed. I want lots of investments into making sure our AI is the best in the world. And I want people to learn to use AI as much as possible.

I’m not naive and I’m sure that AI will have a lot of negative impacts however I view it as being inevitable and therefore it’s in our best interest to learn in it and profit from it. AI has become a Pandora Box which will no longer go away regardless of how we feel about it.

Last night I got completely stuck three times on my code with absolutely no idea of a potential solution (I write software for planes for Boeing) and each time I got stuck I asked the AI to fix the problem with incredibly vague and stupid questions and each time the AI was able to deduce my problem even if my question was wrong and then the AI would make large scale design changes fixing my problem in a matter of minutes.

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u/EscapeTheCubicle — 4 months ago

Is Warwick a good blind pick for top?

I’ve recently picked up League after a long break and I want to know if Warwick is still a good blind pick in the top lane.

I ban teemo and feel like Warwick is a good blind pick at my gold elo. But I’m afraid that I would get kited too hard in high elo.

Warwick great sustain is definitely a big pro for being a blind pick, but his lack of gap closing until his ultimate is concerning.

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u/EscapeTheCubicle — 4 months ago

The number one reason I’m hesitant on a basic income is because I don’t trust voters to tax and distribute the money in a responsible way

I’m not afraid of a mass drop in GDP, a labor participation drop, or a drop in tax revenue.

I’m afraid of voters voting for politicians who promise a higher basic income. I’m afraid of taxes growing painfully high as the poor try to steal from the rich.

I like many people on this subreddit lean to the right. My fears are unquestionably the most common fears for right wingers that support/hesitantly support basic income.

The only way I would be in favor of a basic income is if there was constitutional amendment guaranteeing that the basic income fund wouldn’t surpass a percentage of tax revenue. I would also need a guarantee for tax rates to not surpass a specific threshold.

Even if a reasonable basic income bill was proposed today I would vote against it since certain checks for the basic income are not guaranteed in the constitution. I would need a basic income amendment with upper threshold limits before I could support it.

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u/EscapeTheCubicle — 5 months ago