POLL: What does most of the sub think is the paternal origin of Prince and Paris and the reason?
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Key: Paternal Origin / Reasoning
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Key: Paternal Origin / Reasoning
One of the mysteries of Michael Jackson’s enduring legacy is how much he is being embraced by people who were not even alive or barely sentient when he was alive.
When I think of myself at a similar age, I wasn’t listening to music from 40 years ago so it’s actually quite interesting to see Gen Z and Gen Alpha adopt him and emotionally attach to him so readily.
I think there’s a multivariant reasons for this I want to unpack and discuss.
First let’s talk about MJ himself:
MJ was obviously phenomenally talented so that translates across generations. 4 octave vocal range, multimedia, multi genre artistic mastery, etc.
MJ understood visual media and stage performance far better than his peer group. He knew that he only had a few seconds to capture the audience’s attention It meant everything had to be perfect, dynamic, and attention grabbing... that’s perfect for social media algorithms.
MJ embraced humanity on a global scale free of prejudice. Man in the mirror, Black or White, They don’t care about us, and Earth Song. His messages still ring true for generations looking for meaning in a global world economy. He was woke before woke was a thing.
Secondly, let’s talk about the environment that Shaped Gen Z and Gen Alpha and how that is similar to Michael Jackson.
Gen Z /Alpha grew up under constant surveillance like him and crave privacy. We’re now seeing children of reality stars or family Vlogs or Instagram stars etc. display a lot of the same mentality Michael Jackson had. They understand what it means to have to claw their privacy back after being over exposed to the public as children.
A lot of Genz/Alpha have developed body dysmorphia from the expectation that every photograph look perfect for social media. It has exploded plastic surgery, as well as tools like filters, etc. MJ struggled with this because of criticism of his appearance during his awkward teen years and his father’s abuse.
Gen Z /Alpha know what it’s like to be hyper criticized publicly for everything. Social media has made everyone bold behind a keyboard, so they know what it’s like to be constantly criticized for absolutely everything no matter how small by absolute strangers.
Gen Z / Alpha have embraced niche hobbies and aesthetics. Social media has exposed and embraced a lot of people with interesting hobbies of varying kinds so now nobody would bat an eyelash at a man with a theme park or a massive arcade. They’d probably be trying to get into Neverland to film content.
Gen Z/Alpha know what it’s like to be isolated from other children and how that affects development.
For a couple of years, they were legitimately forced to stay indoors and couldn’t play with other kids due to Covid just like Michael was isolated. They lost a lot of of their childhood and social development..
Gen Z /Alpha were exposed to sex too young and became Puritanical. The Internet is full of disgusting sexual perversions and it’s almost impossible to avoid as a child and for parents to fully protect their children from. As a result of this over exposure, a lot of them are trying to claw back their innocence and are adverse to seeing gratuitous sex on screen, or hook up culture. This is very similar to how Michael Jackson describes his upbringing when he was performing in strip clubs and watching his older brothers and father banging women at five and six years old. He was completely disgusted with all of it and became obsessed with reclaiming his innocence and hated the idea of womanizing.
Gen Z/Alpha know that entertainment families can curate things for the camera but behind the scenes could be horrific abuse. Many have been part of families that pressured them to lie and put on a performance but behind the scenes, they were being abused by their parents. Cases like Ruby Franke and others have trained them to see the signs of abuse beyond the curated image.
Gen Z / Alpha knows the media lies and is prejudiced. The media during Michael Jackson’s life is rightfully being reexamined and criticized for racism, sexism, misogyny, ableism, homophobia, and transphobia. Gen Z/Alpha sees 80s and 90s media culture the same way we would look at freak show circus ads from the early 20th century. Just clearly dehumanizing to the subjects involved and more a statement on society than the person being displayed.
TL;DR I think Michael Jackson’s particular psychology is now more widespread because an entire generation of kids has now experienced it personally.
I think if all three of them were Michael’s biological kids, the children would have clarified that by now, but the fact that they’re all keeping it purposely ambiguous, even though the oldest is pushing 30 now is proof enough for me that they know who is Michael’s biological kid, but will never clarify it to the public because all three of them aren’t and they don’t want one person to be singled out and bullied. I think it’s a matter of sibling solidarity.
My theory right now is that Prince Michael and Bigi are Michael’s biological children and Paris is not. I’m thinking she figured that out at some point, which is why she’s sort of been the most troubled out of the three. She also seems much more attached to Debbie Rowe than Prince is, which makes me feel like she’s felt a need to connect with a biological parent or perhaps female energy.
Bigi has Michael’s eyes, nose, hands, and smile and looks the most like he could be his child and prince looks like Michael’s paternal grandfather, and allegedly has vitiligo, which is extremely extremely rare and almost assuredly would not come from a donor.
What makes me pause is that Paris has said that Michael taught all three of them about black history and was very adamant about telling them they were biracial. I’m not convinced Michael lied to her so much as Debbie probably cheated or something which is partially why their relationship seems to have been strained.
Michael has maintained the children were conceived the old-fashioned way through sex.
There’s a bunch of rumors going around that Debbie was artificially inseminated but she’s never actually confirmed that it was just a rumor made up by the tabloids that neither of them have validated.
From the description of everyone who has visited Neverland Ranch - It seems he had Olive Garden rules where “if you’re here you’re family”.
He did not differentiate between access he would normally give his cousins or nieces or nephews from these non-related surrogate families like the Arvisos, the Chandler’s, the Robson’s, etc. They took advantage of that.
I also don’t necessarily think he was mentally a child so much as he saw himself as an older brother insert doing all the things he wished his brothers had done with him as a child like play twister, watch movies, have sleepovers and eat popcorn.
His brothers were teenagers and were mostly interested in chasing women and would not do all the fun childhood stuff he wanted. A lot of his diaries reveal how hurt he was His brothers would not hang out with him. Some of that was portrayed in the Michael biopic.
So then he found families with kids he could be a surrogate older brother to.
Unfortunately, some of these people were scammers and took advantage of his lack of boundaries to extort him for money by claiming molestation. And the public had very different perceptions of appropriate boundaries between children related to you and children that are not related to you so the allegations stuck in people’s mind, even though some of these people were obvious scammers.
This is why his nephews stressed that basically everyone was treated the same way at Neverland Ranch and that Michael never differentiated between the kids that were actually related to him and which ones weren’t.
It’s inevitable throughout life, you collect odds and ends or pieces of things that you don’t know what to do with, but are also afraid to throw away.
Having a dedicated box to just throw random bullshit in has been life-changing.
It’s basically the same thing as ADHD piles but in a box so it’s contained. Normally, I would shove this into weird corners or leave it on the floor or dresser.
A bullshit box lets you contain your chaos.
It’s basically a box full of things I don’t know what to do with yet and don’t have the executive function or space to figure out.
It keeps my room free of clutter and helps me plan my space.
Eventually, one of a few things happens:
I throw enough repeat or similar bullshit in the same box that I realize I need a dedicated space for it. So when I start to see 3 to 4 of the same kind of items I know it needs its own dedicated storage.
It sits in the box for a while, and I never figure out what to use it for or that I don’t need it so then I feel comfortable giving it to goodwill or trashing it.
You eventually find all the missing parts of a single set so you can take it out of the bullshit box because it’s now an identifiable item.
Whatever emotional attachment I had to the item eventually dissipates or strengthens and then I know that I need to make space for it or throw it out. This is especially true with gifts People have given me.
I prefer using a box versus a drawer or something because the box allows you to just throw things in there when your executive function is low and since it’s open you can always see it. And when you are ready to throw it out or take it to Goodwill it’s already packed up.
I discovered this method the last time I moved when I realized I had so much stuff that I was not even using but I had shoved in various places in my house. When I had to move into my new space I wanted to plan where everything went so it didn’t look messy. So basically if I wasn’t using it regularly, I didn’t have a set, or I didn’t have a dedicated space for it yet or it wasn’t enough to justify its own storage I just left it in the box I moved it in.
I eventually ended up with about nine bullshit boxes full of extra appliance parts, single use kitchen tools I never use, single socks, clothing I’ve had in my closet forever, incomplete sets of items etc.
I took eight boxes to Goodwill and kept one final box which became my bullshit box.
The final box I whittled down overtime from a large box to a small container. Everything that is in a drawer or in an open space has a purpose and a place and is something I use regularly.
Now, if I buy anything else I have to think about whether I have space for it before I purchase it.
If anyone gives me anything and I don’t know what to do with it I throw it in the bullshit box.
I basically eliminated clutter this way.
The first season was around Christmas.
The second season was around Halloween.
The third season was set around Fourth of July.
The fourth season was centered around spring break.
I think in the fifth season, they basically dropped the consistency of that holiday arc and it completely changed the feel of the show. They could have centered it around Christmas and come full circle from the first season.
I think also they could’ve just aged all the characters up as if they had already graduated since most of the main cast was clearly well into adulthood and not teenagers by season five. The event that returns them all to Hawkins could have just been Christmas.
The show felt so unanchored without that.
Multiple times I’ve asked ChatGPT to scale a recipe and I get halfway through it and realized the math is off.
So if I’m trying to make 500 g of cookie dough it’ll round everything till I end up with 700 g of cookie dough. It will get the flour to wet ingredients measurements wrong as well.
It takes a lot of iterations and math checking to get it to scale recipes properly. And a few times it’s actually argued with me until I basically had to say your math is completely wrong and you need to count this exactly. I’m trying to understand how this can possibly replace coders if it’s fucking up at this level.
It also gets weight conversion measurements wrong often. I like to cook in grams because it’s more accurate. So I asked it to convert say half a cup of sugar to the equivalent in grams and it often is way off.
So I guess I’m trying to understand how people who work in highly technical fields where math is of the upmost importance can possibly use this? Because one number off or bad formula or miscalculated math could probably mess up the entire thing, right?