Similarity between Mahabharata and the Iliad

Similarity between Mahabharata and the Iliad

The second half of the Iliad and the 13th-14th day of Kurukshetra war has some great similarities. Mainly the storyline of Patroclus and Abhimanyu.

The similarities -

A. Both Patroclus and Abhimanyu and very close to the heroes. Patroclus is the best friend (maybe lover) of Achilles. Abhimanyu is the favourite son of Arjuna.

B. Both the main heroes are away from the battlefield. Arjuna was lured away by the Samshaptakas. Achilles was in his camp after his argument with Agamemnon.

C. The enemy was at the advantage. In Mahabharata, Drona had build the chakravyuh and was aiming to capture Yudhishtira. In Iliad, the Trojans had broken Greek defences and reached the ships.

D. Patroclus enter the war wearing Achilles's armour. Abhimanyu is the only warrior other than Arjuna who can break the Chakravyuha.

E. Both cause great carnage on the enemy side. Patroclus routs the Trojans and drives them back to their city. Abhimanyu thrashes the Kaurava army repeatedly.

D. Both are killed in dubious circumstances. Patroclus is stupefied by Apollo, is pierced on the back by Euphorbus before finally being killed by Hector. Abhimanyu is simultaneously attacked and stripped of his main equipments by 6 kaurava warriors before finally dying to Duhshasana's son.

E. Both Achilles and Arjuna heavily lament for Patroclus and Abhimanyu respectively. Achilles vows to kill Hector the next day while Arjuna vows to kill Jayadratha.

F. In night both heroes get divine help. Achilles obtains divine armour and shield from the gods while Arjuna has a dream journey to Kailasa where he obtains Pashupata and a boon from Shiva.

G. Both heroes cause great carnage on the enemy army the next. Achilles caused such carnage that the river scamandrius was filled with dead bodies. Arjuna destroyed 7 Akshauhinis of the Kauravas.

H. Both makes morally questionable decisions. Achilles slaughters Trojans soldiers who were begging him for mercy. Arjuna cut of the arm of Bhurishrava from a distance.

I. At the end both reach their targets - Hector and Jayadratha respectively. Both slays their targets and achieves their revenge.

u/Gopu_17 — 8 hours ago

How much damage does Ash actually take while using bond phenomenon ?

Does Ash take the exact same amount of damage Greninja takes when hit by an attack.

u/Gopu_17 — 5 days ago

Shakuni's good advice to Duryodhana

After Pandavas rescued Duryodhana from the gandharvas, Shakuni advised him to make peace with his cousins and return back the kingdom -

"You should reward the good act of the Pandavas by being happy. O Indra among kings! Instead, you are sorrowing and acting in a contrary way. Be gracious and do not give up your life. Be satisfied and remember the good deed. Return the kingdom to the Parthas and earn fame and dharma. By performing this act, you will show your gratitude. Be fraternal towards the Pandavas and give them their places again. You will be happy if you return the ancestral kingdom to them."

- 239, Ghosha Yatra Parva, Mahabharata.

u/Gopu_17 — 7 days ago

The best feat in Mahabharata - vanquishing of the devas in Khandava

A. Devas charge at Arjuna and Krishna -

"On seeing that the king of the gods was about to hurl the great lightning, the gods grasped all their respective weapons —

King Yama his kaladanda, the god of wealth his sibika, Varuna his pasa, Siva his vicakra, the two Asvins luminiscent osadhi, Dhata his dhanu, Jaya his musala, the immensely strong Tvaṣṭa a mountain, Amsa his sakti and the god of death his parashva. Aryaman grasped a fearful parigha and walked around. Mitra stood there, grasping a cakra that was as sharp as a razor.

O lord of the earth! Pusa, Bhaga and Savita grabbed bows and swords and rushed at Krishna and Partha. The Rudras, the powerful Maruts, the Visvadevas, the Sadhyas resplendent in their energy, and many other gods armed with diverse weapons advanced towards Krishna and Partha, the best of men, in a desire to kill them."

- 218, Khandava Daha parva, Mahabharata.

B. Arjuna and Krishna vanquish the devas -

"The two Achyutas saw the angry Shakra and the assemblage of the other gods. Those fearless and invincible warriors stood there, their bows ready. When they saw the gods advancing from every direction, they angrily repulsed them with arrows that were like the vajra. Repeatedly, the resolutions of the gods were shattered. In fear, they gave up the battle and sought refuge with Shakra. On seeing the gods repulsed by Madhava and Arjuna, the sages who dwell in heaven were astonished."

- 218, Khandava Daha parva, Mahabharata.

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u/Gopu_17 — 11 days ago

Kripacharya roasts Karna

"When Karna said this, the mighty-armed Kripa Saradvata smiled and spoke these words to the son of the suta. "O Karna! Wonderful. This is wonderful. The bull among the Kuru lineage has a protector. O Radheya! With you as a protector, if only words could bring success. O Karna! In Kauravya's presence, you speak a lot. But one rarely witnesses your valour or your strength.

We have seen you in many encounters with the son of Pandu. O son of a suta! You have always been defeated by Pandava. O Karna! When the son of Dhritarastra was being taken away by the gandharvas, all the soldiers fought. You were the sole exception and you ran away. O Karna! In the city of Virata, all the united Kauravas were defeated by Partha in a battle and that included you and your younger brother.

In the field of battle, you are incapable of withstanding Phalguna alone. How can you have the enterprise to defeat all the Pandavas, together with Krsna? O Karna! O son of a Suta! You have spoken a lot about fighting. Do not speak and show your valour now. That is the vow which virtuous men follow.

O son of a suta! You are always thundering, like clouds in the autumn, which do not have any water. O Karna! You are seen to be without success. But the king does not understand this. O Radheya! You will roar as long as you do not see Partha. When you see Partha in front of you, your roars will become rare. You will roar as long as you are beyond the reach of Phalguna's arrows. Once you are pierced by Partha's arrows, your roars will be rare.

Kshatriyas show their valour through their arms. Brahmanas show their valour through their eloquence with words. Phalguna's bravery is in his bow. Karna's bravery is in his fancies."

- 133, Ghatotkacha vadha parva, Mahabharata.

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Black and white is the only series where Ash does not fight in a real 6 v 6 battle

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The only badge Ash got twice

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Time gap between the final gym battle and the league in each series

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u/Gopu_17 — 17 days ago

The earliest foreign reference to Mahabharata

"For example, it is said that Homer's poetry is sung even in India, where they have translated it into their own speech and tongue. The result is that, while the people of India have no chance to behold many of the stars in our part of the world — for example, it is said that the Bears are not visible in their country — still they are not unacquainted with the sufferings of Priam, the laments and wailings of Andromache and Hecuba, and the valour of both Achilles and Hector: so remarkable has been the spell of one man's poetry!"

- Discourse 53.

Dio Chrysostom was a greek orator from first century AD. He mentions that 'Iliad' is being sung in India. Greeks have the habit of identifying foreign culture and gods and religions with their own. Scholars are of the opinion that this is a clear reference to Mahabharata.

Priam here is Dhritarashtra.

Hecuba is identified with Gandhari.

Andromache is identified with Draupadi.

Achilles and Hector would be identified with Arjuna and Karna.

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Dawn's career after Diamond and pearl

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