u/Hrvaturk

I’m American from PA. My background is Croatian, Rusyn, Tatar, Irish, Scottish and English

All of my family arrived in the US after 1902

I’m American from PA. My background is Croatian, Rusyn, Tatar (Kryashen/Chuvash), Irish, Scottish and English

All of my ancestors arrived in the US after 1902

My background is half mix of Irish, Scottish and English, half mix of Croatian, Rusyn and Tatar

My background is half mix of Irish, Scottish and English - half mix of Croatian, Rusyn and Tatar

My background is half mix of Irish, Scottish and English, and half mix of Croatian, Rusyn and Tatar

I have this issue with all the major test companies where, because a lot of my ancestry is an Eastern European/Balkan mix from both sides, when they do the “smoothing” algorithm it assumes my ancestry from my great-great grandfather is an older part of the general Eastern European and Balkan genome and assigns them to different Eastern European groups (he was North Caucasus Tatar) Comparing the 2 reports it also seems they assigned a good bit of my Greek & Balkan DNA to “British & Irish” which is strange.

I was looking to download my 23andMe Raw DNA file but accidentally downloaded my “Ancestry Composition Raw Data” which is your data before they conduct the smoothing algorithm. I ran that file thru ChatGPT and had it create a custom report.

The first 2 slides are my 23andMe Report, the 3rd slide is the custom report. The custom report matches my results from Genomelink Deep Ancestry and a few others.

My known background is a mix of Croatian, Rusyn, Caucasus Tatar, Irish, Scottish and English.

My Caucasus Turkic/Tatar ancestry is a small percentage and only shows up on some tests, but it is proven via family stories, surname research, records research, dna matches, and the tests that show percentages related to that.

My background for context:

On my mom’s side, my grandmother was born in Croatia, my grandfather was first generation Irish-American.

On my dad’s side, my earliest ancestor in America (my great-great grandfather) was a Caucasus Turk/Tatar born in either modern Russia or Ukraine. His wife (my great-great grandmother) was Carpatho-Rusyn. Their daughter (my great grandmother) married my great grandfather who was born in England. Their son (my grandfather) married my grandmother who was half Carpatho-Rusyn and half Scottish.

Ancestry’s percentages definitely reflect my background a lot more accurately, although neither of them pick up everything as you’ll see from reading. But both do have different strengths at identifying specifics in different parts of my ancestry.

My background for context -
my mom was adopted. My mom’s biological mother was from Rijeka, Croatia but her mother was from Duga Resa with older roots in Bosnia, and her father was from Sveti Ivan Zelina in Zagreb County.
My mom’s biological father was Irish descent, first generation born in the US.

My dad’s side is a little more mixed. My earliest ancestor in the US, my great-great grandfather was a Caucasus Turk/Tatar born in either modern Russia or Ukraine. My great-great grandmother, his wife, was Carpatho-Rusyn born in Slovakia. Their daughter married my great-grandfather who was born in England. Their son (my grandfather) married my grandmother. My grandmother’s father was from Scotland and her mother was Carpatho-Rusyn born in Poland.

First thing, 23andMe severely underestimated my Greek & Balkan/Bosnian, Croatian, Montenegrin & Serbian and attributed a lot of what it would be to Slovenia. I get 7% Slovenia on 23andMe, 3% Slovenia on Ancestry. 3.8% Greek & Balkan on 23andMe but 11% Northwestern Balkans on Ancestry. And 18% Balkan on IllustrativeDNA.

The combination of English, Scottish and Irish is over-inflated. 57.5% on 23andMe but 51% on AncestryDNA. 50% is the exact number it should be so Ancestry leans much closer. Plus, Ancestry gets the percentages of each more accurate, with higher Irish percent and lower English and Scottish.

Neither test picks up my Caucasus Turk/Tatar ancestry. So far the ones that do are FamilyTreeDNA, IllustrativeDNA, Genomelink Deep Ancestry Report, my G25 breakdowns, and every single ancestry calculator and oracle from platforms like Gedmatch, DNAgenics, and ExploreYourDNA. Every one of my dna matches on that side on 23andMe do show 1-10% Central Asian or Anatolian/Central Asian mix.

I do like how they both have different strengths. 23andMe gave me specific regions for my Carpatho-Rusyn ancestry. AncestryDNA was better at identifying Croatia and the exact region of Croatia my grandmother and her family were from.

Ancestry’s percentages definitely reflect my background a lot more accurately, although neither of them pick up everything as you’ll see from reading. But both do have different strengths at identifying specifics in different parts of my ancestry.

My background for context -
my mom was adopted. My mom’s biological mother was from Rijeka, Croatia but her mother was from Duga Resa with older roots in Bosnia, and her father was from Sveti Ivan Zelina in Zagreb County.
My mom’s biological father was Irish descent, first generation born in the US.

My dad’s side is a little more mixed. My earliest ancestor in the US, my great-great grandfather was a Caucasus Turk/Tatar born in either modern Russia or Ukraine. My great-great grandmother, his wife, was Carpatho-Rusyn born in Slovakia. Their daughter married my great-grandfather who was born in England. Their son (my grandfather) married my grandmother. My grandmother’s father was from Scotland and her mother was Carpatho-Rusyn born in Poland.

First thing, 23andMe severely underestimated my Greek & Balkan/Bosnian, Croatian, Montenegrin & Serbian and attributed a lot of what it would be to Slovenia. I get 7% Slovenia on 23andMe, 3% Slovenia on Ancestry. 3.8% Greek & Balkan on 23andMe but 11% Northwestern Balkans on Ancestry. And 18% Balkan on IllustrativeDNA.

The combination of English, Scottish and Irish is over-inflated. 57.5% on 23andMe but 51% on AncestryDNA. 50% is the exact number it should be so Ancestry leans much closer. Plus, Ancestry gets the percentages of each more accurate, with higher Irish percent and lower English and Scottish.

Neither test picks up my Caucasus Turk/Tatar ancestry. So far the ones that do are FamilyTreeDNA, IllustrativeDNA, Genomelink Deep Ancestry Report, my G25 breakdowns, and every single ancestry calculator and oracle from platforms like Gedmatch, DNAgenics, and ExploreYourDNA. Every one of my dna matches on that side on 23andMe do show 1-10% Central Asian or Anatolian/Central Asian mix.

I do like how they both have different strengths. 23andMe gave me specific regions for my Carpatho-Rusyn ancestry. AncestryDNA was better at identifying Croatia and the exact region of Croatia my grandmother and her family were from.

Tbh minus the Middle Eastern percentages and the trace Vietnamese, my Genomelink Deep Ancestry results are very similar to both my AncestryDNA results and my 23andMe results.

The regions of England, Ireland and Scotland and percentages of those that Genomelink gave me match up pretty evenly with my AncestryDNA results. Same with the Eastern Europe percentages. My “Greek & Balkan” percentage on 23andMe and specific ethnicities line up with the “South Slavic” percentages on Genomelink.

One of the main things I like about Genomelink is that it picks up my slight middle eastern ancestry, Ancestry and 23andMe just combine it with my more dominant Eastern Europe percentages. My 2x great grandfather was from a Turkic group from the Russian republics of the North Caucasus. Interesting that the major companies don’t pick it up but smaller companies do.

Also I think the Vietnamese trace might be misassigned central Asian. My unbalanced results also show traces from Northern India. “Unbalanced” is basically similar to how 23andMe allows you to lower the confidence.

I’ll post my AncestryDNA and Deep Ancestry Unbalanced results in the comments for reference

Unbalanced Results are what you can check when you look at the “Table View”. It’s similar to how 23andMe lets you check your results with lower confidence. I basically took all the percentages it gave me and made a one page, easily shareable report out of it.

All the European percentages and regions are correct and match up very well with other tests. The Middle East percentage gets lumped into European on most mainstream tests, but my gg grandfather was a Turk from the Russian republics of the North Caucasus so I’m glad this test shows something along those lines.

The South Asian and Vietnamese percentages I think are ancient steppe noise and central Asian misassigned.

Seems pretty accurate from what I know, though some things are different or changed in confusing ways.

English and Welsh seems slightly inflated (shouldn’t be more than like 12-13% English, and other tests never gave me more than 3% Welsh.

South Slavic should be way higher (my grandmother was from Croatia). West Slavic should be more Slovak-derived than Polish (Carpatho-Rusyn ancestors).

On the previous update I had a 4% mix of Caucasus, Turkish, Levantine and Persian that I was guessing came from my Kumyk great-great grandfather. Now I have a 2% mix of Caucasus (Georgian), Turkish and now 2-3% Russian that was not on my previous results.

And the Southeast Asian might just be noise from genetic similarity to central Asian Turkic people? Maybe

I’m American from southwestern PA. My known ancestry is a mix of Croatian, Carpatho-Rusyn, Irish, English and Scottish. And my great-great grandfather was Kumyk Turk with roots in Dagestan