Abstaining from PMO made me realize I've been addicted to stress too

The reason my mind craves caffeine is simply because I've grown to like stress. Get a kick out of it. Can't be alert without it.

Rather play a stressful FPS than relax and just be. How does this connect to PMO ? Before PMO I thought this was normal. It is not. Was stuck in the cycle of PMO making me stressed bout everything - and this carried on for so long it became my actual state.

TLDR = I have forgotten the skill of just letting go and relaxing without PMO.

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u/Icy_Lie_3749 — 13 hours ago
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Journal: Day 1 of OMAD

M 28 5ft 11 - 100 kgs weight. Have fasted earlier with mixed results, always rebounded. One of the remarks from my co workers made me reflect how I've become so docile because of the weight gain.

Today I begin OMAD, eating in the noon. Let's see how far this goes. Will add comments to this post instead of creating new ones. Any tips for afternoon OMAD'ers would be appreciated.

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u/Icy_Lie_3749 — 22 hours ago

Nearing 6 months of retention in 2 weeks - how do I relax and chill the F out ?

Right now - I am exploding with energy. Not the physical kind of energy which can be expended in a workout but rather a mental edgyness - like a mania. How do I ground myself ?

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u/Icy_Lie_3749 — 23 hours ago

No one has a right to say - SR doesn't work unless he has done at least a 6 month streak

The usual sperm cycle is about 70 days. You'd need about 5-10 cycles of pure retention to notice the magic. Thus - the bare minimum of difference at this rate would start at 6 months. Grow TF up and abstain longer instead of whining.

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u/Icy_Lie_3749 — 2 days ago

This works.

Got back morning wood after 5 months of cold quitting. Good sign. Was a PMO addict since 10 yrs of age. This is worth it.

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u/Icy_Lie_3749 — 6 days ago

Am I the only one who welcomes the relatively lower libido as I enter my 30's

I have cut out supplements such as Zinc, Magnesium and the entire test maxing lot too.

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u/Icy_Lie_3749 — 7 days ago

They lied to us about PMO.

I am not here to say that PMO isn't enjoyable - but it never leaves you satisfied. At all.

They pushed this agenda down our throats, using advertising, movies and other subliminals to make it seem everything is about sex. Changed our expectations and morphed our desires into something outright demonic.

Feel betrayed by the media (well, for the nth time). I was naive and took at face value whatever was shown to me.

Not anymore now. At least in this respect, I take control back.

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u/Icy_Lie_3749 — 12 days ago

How do I make the law of assumption / attraction work for bigger things like wealth, magnetism and social status for myself ?

Whenever I go for long periods of retention (more than 3-4 months) I start noticing synchronicities and co incidences. To the point it has made me convinced that the law of attraction indeed exists.

Has anyone of you managed to leverage this phenomenon to get abundance and wealth ?

Sometimes I think this is the law of useless co incidences and law of trivial synchronicities - if only I could manage it to get me wealth - wouldn't that be great ?

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u/Icy_Lie_3749 — 15 days ago

Nearly 5 months without this and today is the first time I felt my brain is getting rewired for good

Its been 140 days plus without this vice - and today is the first time I felt that my brain is rewiring itself. I don't... want porn anymore ? I've never felt like this before.

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u/Icy_Lie_3749 — 21 days ago

Nearly 5 months in after falling off the wagon. Sharing my status.

This is my first non-vice streak (strict period of abstinence without even alcohol and reduced caffeine consumption).

Earlier streak - although 2 full years - was full of other vices and occasional peeking at corn.

But this time it is somewhat different. The rewiring is patently visible and I am able to remember numbers way better. Sometimes - I am able to articulate words a lot better.

This is of immense hope to me as some people saw me as "bright" when I was young. Sadly this is no longer the case due to a decade and half of severe PMO addiction.

I've quit PMO for good this time. Hope life gives me more reasons to continue than relapse.

Office work seems boring as hell now. Unable to sit at a desk for 10 hours straight 6 days a week. Yup, its 6 days a week. Pays well but kills the soul.

The only vice I am thinking of not giving up is gaming. I do not game currently as my laptop is pretty basic - but I intend on getting a gaming setup 1 year down the line.

I intend on starting intermittent fasting by skipping dinners - who knows that might increase my sleep quality which is crappy as well. Bad lucid dreams, mostly.

The hardest part has not been cutting off porn - which I've watched enough (and it just... fell off like a ripe apple from the tree of my consciousness ? Maybe I've outgrown that I want real experiences ?) - its been cutting of jerking off and taking alcohol the latter of which I miss.

But both have led me to make questionable life decisions at pivotal moments and I do not thing I would be going back to them unless, say I win a lottery. I am safe that way.

I intend on continuing this period of abstinence till Christmas, will update you folks on the status every 2-3 weeks or so.

The only problem I have is lethargy. Take women and sex out of the equation and I have zero motivation to do anything. Makes me realize how everything I did was connected with getting girls. Oddball of a realization - but it is true.

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u/Icy_Lie_3749 — 22 days ago

Leave the genetic potential - I didn't even know what my true persona was

I've been high off this habit for so long I lost touch with my true personality. By that I don't mean spiritually speaking - I mean it in a 100% grounded way as to knowing what my true likes and dislikes were.

I chose the wrong career, stayed with the wrong people, picked up the wrong hobbies. Now I want to shed them all in one fell swoop.

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u/Icy_Lie_3749 — 29 days ago

Forgive yourself. This vice wasn't supposed to exist.

Long story short - the human mind was never wired to see dozen naked women in less than 30 minutes of time without a humongous sacrifice.

Additionally - although other substances do not exploit a fundamental drive - this exploits the sex drive which unfortunately for men, is subconsciously paramount objective.

When I came to realize this - I forgave myself (that's still a work in progress).

Let it go. Move on. This vice wasn't built for the human mind. Let yourself off the hook for relapsing - its the most addictive thing ever. Just my thoughts.

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u/Icy_Lie_3749 — 1 month ago

Has anyone taken Citrulline and Taurine on SR ?

I am planning to take these two with Magnesium and Omega 3 - will report benefits after 2 months. Has anyone else tried the same stack ?

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u/Icy_Lie_3749 — 1 month ago

Have great difficulty crossing the 120 day mark.

I've gone on long streaks yes, but a pure no PMO streak - it's too difficult beyond the first 120 days. Its like my brain is about to explode and there's not enough energy near my heart.

I don't want to go into chakras and esoteric crap - but they might have a point.

I have difficulty sleeping too. I have joint problems, which make exercise tough but I get in some reps here and there.

How do you people go on long streaks without exploding ?

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u/Icy_Lie_3749 — 1 month ago

When does the PAWS end ?

I thought I had left this PA and MA for good when I quit 3 years ago. Even drank booze whilst maintaining a 2 yr streak. Then one day - one fine day I rationalized I didn't need to abstain from this - and fell back into the loop of doing it daily/ multiple times a day for the next year and a half. Yeah you heard that right. Threw it all away after a decade and half of addiction - that too after maintaining for 2 years straight - which had its own ups and downs.

How do I forgive myself ? Was addicted since I was 10, bout to turn 28. Especially when lots of testimonies say it takes 3 years to heal from PAWS in sever cases ?

How do I see the light at the end of the tunnel ?

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u/Icy_Lie_3749 — 1 month ago

When does the PAWS end ?

I thought I had left this PA and MA for good when I quit 3 years ago. Even drank booze whilst maintaining a 2 yr streak. Then one day - one fine day I rationalized I didn't need to abstain from this - and fell back into the loop of doing it daily/ multiple times a day for the next year and a half. Yeah you heard that right. Threw it all away after a decade and half of addiction - that too after maintaining for 2 years straight - which had its own ups and downs.

How do I forgive myself ? Was addicted since I was 10, bout to turn 28. Especially when lots of testimonies say it takes 3 years to heal from PAWS in sever cases ?

How do I see the light at the end of the tunnel ?

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u/Icy_Lie_3749 — 1 month ago

Finally went 4 months clean after a long time

I've had streaks (God, I hate this word) - where I've went till 24 months even. But these were mixed with a sedentary lifestyle and tons of booze.

This time, I've quit PMO and drinking together. It's been one big slugfest, feeling anhedonia and not even feeling the colors my eye sees. Like they're there but I cannot feel the reds, blues, greens.

Hope the coming months are kinder. What gets me the most is the inability to work and focus - which hamper me the most. When does the withdrawal end ?

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u/Icy_Lie_3749 — 1 month ago

How long does it take ? Can't bear it anymore.

Withdrawal from PA sucks. It's been 3-4 months I've gone without watching a single second of K O R N but I am unable to find the peace that comes with having left this habit nor the self forgiveness which comes as foregoing of guilt.

Yes, obviously I am aiming for a period far more than 3 months - like one year bare minimum. But will this ever be over ? There seems to be no light at the end of the tunnel.

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u/Icy_Lie_3749 — 2 months ago

Its not the fact that I am averse to retention, it just that it makes focusing on work (I have a desk job) extremely difficult. I wish could swallow some ritalin just to get my attention span back.

Is there anyone who feels the same on a long streak ? How do you manage it ?

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u/Icy_Lie_3749 — 2 months ago