I HATE drawing Pure Vanilla cookie. HATEHATEHATEHATE. His design is fine, it's those stupid banana peel bangs of his that make it hard for me. Anyways White Lily reincarnation AU yayyyy
does this break rule 9? None of her bits show, it's literally only horny. But I could also see how this could break the rule. If the mods have anything against this I can delete it myself as I absolutely do NOT want a Permaban
so, there are actually two parts to this drawing! But because of rule 2, this is all I can post
I've never drawn Sugar of Happiness/Eternal Sugar cookie because of her hair, so I'm proud of how it turned out :)
I think these finalists are actually a squad in my mind now. I did this with Black Forest and Sugarfly last year, and Caramel Arrow and Mozarella before that. But this is the first time it happens to 4 cookies on Miss Earthbread
was REALLY fun drawing younger looking cookies for the first time.
not as proud as I wish I could say I am. There are a LOT of mistakes I would have never made just 2 months prior. But that's fine, because this was a test animation. I'm bound to make mistakes, and I know what I want to avoid doing in the future :)
Anyways
Till is Mizi
Ivan is Sua
Hyuna is Till
Luka is Ivan
Mizi is Luka
and obviously, Sua is Hyuna
I honestly WAS kind of shipping them when I made my original art (under the impression that those two were winning back then.) But the amount of people ALSO shipping them is what pushed me to this drawing
crk bummed me out. My favorite character of 5 years is officially gone forever. So here's our favorite ladies :) (cough. Vote Croissant miss earthbread 2026)
Edit: Apparently croissant cookie has lost on every platform but twitter to POM-POM DOUGH. WHAT DOES SHE EVEN BRING TO THE LORE?? I LIKE HER BUT WHAT. SHE'S IN PAIN?? I CALL BS
the first two were made multiple months before the last 2 so there IS a leap in quality
Anyways can you tell I can't draw men
I know this is inaccurate in multiple ways and Shadow milk cookie would NEVER cry about this. I just thought it'd be real funny to draw
made this purely for self indulgence. Thought it'd be fun to draw
I've been in this community for a LONG time. In fact, I was there before Jorge even founded Winion Entertainment LLC. Hell, I created a whole community with over 2k members dedicated to Eurylochus on Tumblr. After the Ithaca Saga, I decided to leave the Epic fandom because it got so big and SO toxic all so suddenly. I don't even remember the last time I drew a chiton on a character
The point is, I came back and noticed there are a lot of things newer fans of Epic may not know, mostly because they weren't there pre Wisdom-Ithaca days. So, I thought I'd write about some things that we need to keep in mind!
1: Everyone is to blame. Poseidon is to blame. Eurylochus is to blame. Zeus is to blame. Odysseus is ESPECIALLY to blame. Even Polites. Greek Mythology has always been about nuance, and Jorge at least kept a lot of that in Epic, even if Odysseus is made far more sympathetic and morally gray leaning on white. It's not about who carries the blame, it's about who your favorite bad person is.
2: Absolutely never, and I mean NEVER harass/bother the epic vocalists about epic when it comes to their personal work. If the conversation is tied to Greek Mythology, or about Epic and its other vocalists themselves, just avoid discussion unless you know said vocalist (EX: Teagan Earley, TROY) is comfortable with it. Just after Ithaca released, that problem spiked a LOT with MICO (Telemachus' vocalist) specifically. It was clear he didn't want the name MICO tied to Epic, so much that his solo artist name isn't even credited in the epic songs he's in.
3: Stop comparing other musicals to Epic. This issue happened a lot with Casper Fox's "Stories from Styx" (which, granted. He got a lot of his popularity from Epic. But people criticized it with Epic as a basis for it), but it's rising up again thanks to Ceaser: The Musical (Check it out if you like Political musicals like Hadestown and Hamilton!!). Jorge Rivera Herrans does not own the concept of a historical musical. Especially a Greek Mythology project like All Fall Together, Stories from Styx, or The Final Stand.
4: Don't believe everything you see about The Odyssey. I've seen so many people on Reddit and TikTok specifically believe claims like "Polites had a Wife and Daughter" (they could POTENTIALLY mean Polites, son of Priam. But I don't think he was married either) or "Odysseus had to drop the infant twice." (How did people believe this one?? How would a baby survive that??) You don't have to read the Odyssey to enjoy Epic, but try to be a little skeptical when things sound far-fetched!
5: Let's not argue about ships. Odyseidon, Odypen, Odypoli, Teleanti, Telecirce, Eurypoli, Polypoli, whatever dude. Everyone's an adult here. If it ain't illegal, it's fine
I think that's it! I hope these small bits of advice from an old, old fan may bring you plenty of help in the future
when your other half comes from a world w/o slang so you pull ts on em
so basically, the Lack of Filler updates has kind of put everyone in a bit of an emotional dry spell. I've ALSO been on a bit of a creative dryspell, and instead have been coming up with AUs left and right to try and fix my severe art block.
I believe it's currently Summer in the US, which is where most people here live, correct? So I decided that it'd be a fun idea to make a short story with some of our favorite cookies as a hypothetical summer beach update for filler. But I want the COMMUNITY to decide who the update would focus on. So drop your favorites in the comments (as long as they're Epic+, sorry lmao)
PS: They don't have to be alive to be on the list
Edit: I BELIEVE WE HAVE OUR WINNERS!! Black Forest Cookie in first place with a whopping 15 points. Pitaya dragon not-so far behind with a total of 9, and right next to them is Milky Way Cookie just barely trying!!. Salt cellar makes it into the final batch, tying with Vampire cookie at 5 points! And last of all, Timekeeper cookie due to recent timeline complications is in our batch with a total of 7 points!!
Honestly, I have no idea how I'd possibly be able to create a filler story involving all 5 of these cookies. But I'll sure as hell try!
for some reason I was like "what if Black Sapphire and Sugarfly were siblings?" and for some reason, it somehow evolved into this kinda cute au where the two are Elder Faerie's asexually produced children? I mean, there's still a reason Black Sapphire joins the Deceit trio in this au, but Idk if I should share it without anyone asking...
^((PS: No hate to Sugarsapphire shippers!! I like the ship, it's cute. This is just an AU I made out of pure boredom))
Fun fact: I had a previous attempt at Sugar Swan Cookie's design, but I ended up scrapping it because it seemed too regal for someone with White Lily Cookie's role!!
Anyways uh:
Stormbringer is Hollyberry
Frost Queen is Dark Cacao
Stardust is Golden Cheese (I ran out of Legendaries and they share a costume set)
Timekeeper is Shadow Milk
Moonlight is Silent Salt
Wind Archer is Eternal Sugar
Fire Spirit is Mystic Flour
Black Pearl is Burning Spice
and Sea Fairy is Elder Faerie
all art included is mine!!
I've been in the Epic: The Musical community since late 2022, back when the original version of the Troy Saga had released. I didn't use Tiktok back then, so I had no way of knowing about Epic prior to this, but considering I was an epic fan FAR before a lot of people in this community were, I'd say I've been around for a lot.
Now, 4 years later, I'm a bit of an expert on Greek Mythology. I probably couldn't tell you the difference between Agamemnon and Achilles' helmets, BUT I can explain the transition of Zagreus to modern Dionysus pretty easily. As Epic grew in popularity, so did its fanbase. And while I'm so happy about how far Jorge has come, I've noticed a small problem mostly on TikTok.
We can't seem to handle any musicals that come after Epic.
The Epic fandom has an overall problem with how we handle criticism, but this isn't about that. I began to notice this when Casper Fox's Stories from Styx (CHECK IT OUT IF YOU HAVEN'T!!) finally released. I saw a ton of criticisms saying it was a Rip-off Epic, or a copycat made to capitalize on Epic's success. Stories from Styx part 1 (as it was all that was released back then) is NOTHING like Epic. It's got a much different lyrical flow and a distinct instrumental. Its only similarities are Greek Mythology and Teagan Earley being involved. Thankfully, hate on SFS has died down a lot as of 2026
Sadly, this is not the only example I can think of. There is a musical by creator Arwen Wen (Stream Judgement of Paris!!) named All Fall Together, which is a musical based on the story of the Iliad which has been in production for.. 4-5 years, I believe? I was following it in late 2024 out of curiosity (even drew fanart of it back when I wasn't burnt out about Greek mythology!!) Well, when Ilium was announced, people didn't really like All Fall Together, despite Arwen's musical coming first. I saw a lot of comments on tiktok saying she copied Epic, or that they didn't want anything that wasn't made by Jorge. Jorge Rivera Herrans does not own the right to musicals about Greek Mythology
IT DOESN'T EVEN STOP AT GREEK MYTHOLOGY, ACTUALLY. Once, I saw a video on Ceaser the Musical (CHECK IT OUT ON TIKTOK), and there was a comment saying "this is like Epic the Musical if it was Roman" as if there are similarities between the fictional story of Odysseus and the real assassination of Julius Ceaser.
I love Epic. It changed my life AND my career on social media, if i'm to be honest. But so many people feel entitled lately. I think it's the reason I stopped making art of Greek Mythos. Eh, i'll post some old Semele art as the image attached. Thanks for reading, let me know if you agree or not!!
(All art is mine because no one else ships this lolllll
So, this isn't a recent story. Rather, this was a few years ago. I've tried bringing this up with her a couple of times, but she always changes the subject. So I'm taking this to the most judgmental site I know (hello, Reddit) to know if I really did blow that whole incident out of proportion because this has been silently eating away at me for YEARS
I have this friend who I'll call Honey (inside joke.) When I was growing up, I never had a lot of friends. I would always go from one country or city or school to the next, so I'd quietly learned it was easier to not be friends with people. Plus, I was a really big victim of bullying (still am, the country I live in is super racist) so it's not like anyone wanted to be my friend. When I met Honey, it felt like the happiest moment in my life since (at the time) 5 years ago. We had all the same hobbies and interests, we knew the exact way to cheer each other up. She was the one person in my life I never wanted to lose.
I don't know why it happened, but enter middle school, and she's just... ruder? Whenever I'd sign up for something, she'd tell me not to do it. Whenever I told her about a new interest, she'd keep saying "okay" not really paying attention until I shut up. I didn't really blame her though, because we were all we had. I thought she just wanted me to keep being by her side.
I think I just matured faster than she did, because we'd have so many petty arguments because of minor things I did. I swear this will sound fake, but one time she didn't talk to me for around a day because I told her I didn't like Soda (still a really funny memory.) Another time, it was because I told her our country had a government, which she didn't believe (I think that was a lie her sister told her?)
Anyways, I can't quite remember what happened that day. At least, not the argument (my brain kind of tries to phase it out lmao.) All I remember was that she raised her voice at me, and I said "You're ALWAYS the problem. You're an awful friend." And the way she started crying broke me. But I didn't want to apologize that day. I just wanted to stand my ground for once in my life, you know? When the teacher told me to apologize while she was comforting Honey, I said I didn't want to. We spent the whole class day apart (via me avoiding her and her being upset) until Choir practice with our other friend. On the way, my friend (i'll call her Twilight) pulled me aside and said "just Apologize so we can get this over with."
So I did! I think it was the right thing to do, even now. But I remember being so angry and sad about it. Because in the end, Honey would always win. And I'd always have to apologize. I know Honey doesn't try to be a bad person. She hasn't had a HARD life, but she isn't spoiled. She's incredibly kind. And I don't blame Twilight for telling me that either. It's not my place to talk, but there was a legal case with her grandfather being a groomer, and she was more involved in the case than I wish. She's fine now, but she didn't need all of that stress back then
I'm still friends with Honey, actually! She sits next to me in class, and while she isn't much better than she was in middle school, she's at least matured enough to not have pointless arguments. Recently, my other friend broke up with her, and uh. No one else wants to talk to Honey. They've called her "spoiled" or "attention seeker" so I've sort of been left to pick up the crumbs! I'm fine with it though, she's a lot to handle for some people. My friend (Honey's ex) told me to leave her, but I can't, right? She told me she'd. Uh. Well, kill herself. She didn't say she'd do it if I left her, of course not! But she's very clearly mentally ill and I know she's been dealing with suicidal thoughts for a while. I've been stressed to come to school because I'm afraid of seeing her helpless, and my mind keeps drifting back to that incident a few years ago. Was it the right choice to tell her she's a bad friend? Did me saying that lead her to where she is now? I'm not sure. Am I the Asshole?
I made this thumbnail for an animation i'm working on and decided to post it here for fun lmao
His name in SPECIFIC is a WIP because I couldn't come up with enough cool words for P.U.R.E but it's literally just an AU of PVC in that new Timeline Shmilk made