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Humans have occasional access to ZPMs. Asgard have access to.... something, it works, whatever the exact process is, I never saw it discussed indepth on the show, but have seen people argue over it as if they knew. What we can infer comes from the show is how fast ZPMs vs Asgard tech gets you. The Asgard can zip between galaxies much faster than humans can as of the end of Stargate Atlantis, minus the wormhole drive. Asgard clearly lack that, had they had it, replicators wouldn't of been a threat.

All four species of the ancient alliance could write linear languages, as we can see from the Ernest episode. Humans have no issue talking to the Ancients, Asgard and Nox, so if there was a mere linguistic hurdle, requiring a language based on pure atomic chemistry just to communicate, it would seem logical the Furlings have a bizarre cognition that the rest of the races couldn't track with and easily comprehend requiring such a rudimentry, universal language- but we see a example of the Furling script and know it isn't likely the case, they write in something akin to a alphabetic script. They are unlikely to be any incomprehensible than the other three.

So I am guessing Ernest's notes consist of engineering data from the Atom to the Molecule the four great races shared, and likely wasn't purely military tech, as the Nox are currently in our era pacifists (perhaps not then but definately now, and I will presume then as Asgard are only 100,000 years old as a civilization). I don't know if we can say it was all purely military info they shared on how to build stuff or understand how stuff worked, but the presence of the Nox suggests otherwise. Lets assume it is generic engineering data on shared standards on getting around fast. You need that in a grand alliance, even the Nox would agree.

I think they were sharing concepts like more efficient hyperdrive travel, defensive shields, etc. People sometimes argue Asgard batteries/energy production is better than ancient ZPMs. I doubt it. Yes, they move quicker than human ships using ZPMs, but a human ship with a ZPM is like a trireme with a nuclear reactor. Can you automate the oars with unlimited nuclear energy.... yes, but anyone knowing about propellers wouldn't bother. This is the Ancients communicating to everyone your concepts each race figured out independently are nice and all, but here is a propeller. Yes, Ancients have flying carpets, but lets master the propeller here and agree it is the minimum of our alliance.

I'm thinking this might be when ideas like the Kiron was first discussed between them. Take atoms, then set up weird chemical processes, and explain step by step the odd process.... and you get a new engineering concept for more efficient energy release, or how to transfer it without loss, etc.

A Ancient ZPM can cause the Atlantis City Ship to jump between Galaxies, so it isn't under powered vs Asgard tech. I think we see in this library how the Asgard gained their concepts of using what they had to move faster. This likely gave the Nox the ability to float and cloak a city- no mean feat. That is a energy hog as much as the Asgard zipping between galaxies or deconstructing a ship.

This was likely less a place for philosophical discussion and more a acceptance that the debates in hypothetical physics between different races wasn't translating in any meaningful sense in their translations of one another's mathematical and physical works. Each race's math was too wacky, unstabke, built on conflicting opinions. They had to get their best thinkers together and literally start with the basics. If the Nox were involved, it probably wasn't purely fixated on weapons, not a NATO alliance. Asgard perhaos saw it that way, not the Nox (again, assuming they were pacifist then). The idea of a alliance was having joint capability to show up and do something together. Like if a inhabited world's star started to go supernova.... wildly different capacities and inefficiencies would throw off cooperation. The Nox took in Tollan refugees, so they would likely agree to a humanitarian alliance, where shared tech and mutual deoendency would be essential.

Does a shared standard mean everyone had ZPMs? No.... it could just be the bottom line of what was acceptable in a joint alliance. You might have the Asgard equivelent of Samatha Carter back then knowing her chemistry, with a Ancient trying to show holographically a Kiron- a idea the Asgard never would of considered before, with the "A-ha moment" taking place thousands of years ago. Ernest jotted down the notes of these examples, but lacked the dialogue or engineering frame of reference. He just knew the physics of his day, and saw visualizations of stuff turning incomorehensible because he isn't standing there with a Ancient giving him feedback during a lecture. He doesn't even know the topic being discussed.

But it doesn't mean this library unlocked all the Ancients more advanced concepts. Asgard were still mining a Ancient database for new concepts. Everyone except the Ancients likely walked away mind racing with grand new ideas that swallowed their intellectuals up for generations. Ancients loved the ZPMs, they likely would of had to sit in this chemistry auditorium teaching everyone new earth shattering concepts daily in order for them to catch up to the Ancients.

Good news is, Ancients liked using crystals. The library toppled in the ocean but is likely recoverable- it was by the shore afterall. Plus they have the Asgard database to reconstuct the Asgard takeaway from these conversations. It would make sense for the Asgard to reference this era as it likely is the frame of reference they had in their own history for making a database holographic interactic library to give to humanity. They learned that way, in that very spot. Humans too can learn this way.

Now a bit more speculation. We don't know the frame of reference for how old this library could be, other than younger than 100,000 years given the age of Asgard civilization. Assuming the Asgard didn't show up in buttflaps and spears, probably wasn't the first 10,000 of it. When was this library built?

Very old, brick cities in the milky way didn't survive very well intact. Daniel Jackson being a archeologist can attest to this fact. They like to build in brick. But we have Atlantis and outposts with ZPM tech intergrated suggesting otherwise- they could build to last, but usually didn't. Stuff is usually in ruins, and we find this library on the cliff in ruins.

So we have a 90,000 year old alliance in timeframe. Could it be a alliance from after the evacuation of Atlantis? Yeah. Where the Furlings at, if that is the case.... they didn't seem to much benifit and stick around. Asgard seemed involved. Nox wers present, still around. Everyone would of recognized the ancients os omnipowerful, yet also a critically endangered species.... so this could be the last grand strategy of the Ancients at galactic or intergalactic statecraft. After that it was just a few ascending or doing Camelot- pet projects. Nox seem rather unimpressed. Asgard seem with the program. Furkings extinct or moved on, or are really good with hiding.

If older than the Wraith War, then it is a late stage Atlantean position on Statecraft. They lived in a neighboring galaxy, still had interests in the Milky Way. Still open to diplomacy. We know Earth was special to them (Asgard seemed to follow favkring humans for whatever reason- I personally think Janus made them a offer they couldn't refuse but it could just as well he this alliance). But that would be a theory of managing a distant alliance in another galaxy, how they ran Pegasus and dealt with the Wraith.... doesn't seem like the Nox or Asgard much cared. The Wraith War may of ended the alliance, or it might of died out long beforehand. Or it may of only begun as a reponse to losing it. I don't think we will be able to precisely figure this stuff out till a new TV series air and gives us more of a data dump.

I spent the day out in the hot sun, I thought I understood this idea but as I near heatstroke, it is bothering me more and more. Before I die, set me straight in how this works:

Destiny's crew. It goes back in time- fine, fair.

They didn't seem to go "that far back" in time, and I am not seeing the basis to argue a predestination paradox of Humans madw ancients made human, cause it just wasn't that long of a time period when the second destiny found their little civilization. A few thousand years max.

So where does this become the distant past? Is the universe cut up into parts, and the distant past for us is the other side of the universe, and "Eternal Return" is spinning clockwise or counter clockwise, and the communication stones and star gate travel does some goofy synching regardless for information to travel without regard to this frame of temporal reference?

I think that is a stupid idea. I'm getting dizzy. Gonna lay down and wait for the replies.

It was recently brought to my attention the Star Gate in Antartica has a different symbol for Earth than the Pyramid.

We really don't get too many closeups of the gates off world, but it seems to put a firm date of older gen vs newer gen gates. SG-1 seems mostly aquainted with the newer gen gates, those from AFTER the Ancients left Earth for Pegasus.

So a obvious need to update a Star Gate is if it is lost or destroyed. It has always bothered me most gates are not geologically locked deep beneath strata, Pompeii deep.

Let's say the ancients never solved the problem of sedimentry drift, or natural disasters. You can only do so much. Is the apparent lack of early generation gates evidence that most worlds just lose them over time?

Needs to be noted Ra did bring a gate to Earth, but also that the original Earth gate was still functional. Useful? No, but it could open wormholes.

This brings me into anotjer speculation. Since the Ancients were largely in Pegasus.... did/does the Milky Way have Destiny Seeder Ships, ships that just fly around plopping new Star Gates whenever a old gate goes offline on the network.

The Seed ships on destiny took on millions of alien species and survived, so I thibk they could survive in the milky way.

A additional question.... if we assume all the above is correct. When you move a gate to a new location, it can clearly work.... but would the old location be seeded with a new ship? I only ask because the plot of a few episodes was on moving Star Gates around. Seems like something that would trigger a ancient seed ship to appear above a Lucian Alliance corn world.

World the AI onboard decide which worlds were "Fixed Worlds" deserving of further service? Or would any world suddenly popping into the network be mapped, like the Tolland gate they built, with a new gate plopped down shortly after the Tolland Gate's destruction? Would gates on Ships mess with this AI? Would it try to seed empty space where any ship with a gate lingered, or would it only do this for planets?

In the case of Pegasus and space gates, we can assume the Wraith took care of any seeder ship (or the Ancients lost it in a battle against the Wraith). Hence why the Wraith can have orbital gates, whereas the Milky Way, everything is terreatrial.

So the Antartic Gate.... it has the Pyramid symbol. We can safely assume this was accidently retconned, bit it was heavily implied in the first movie that was about pyramids in Egypt.

So is it still a Pyramid, but this time a Ancient one? Did they walk like a Egyptian? Or is it just a letter from their written script?

Bonus question: When O'Neill speaks Ancient, he reads out gate addresses as words. Does anyone know how the address for Earth was spoken?

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I've encountered this guy twice, and unlike the nightmare of DS1 never ending trench battle (took me days), I've done him in both times without dying. His AI is terrible, first time I was standing infront of a grave cube he kwpt reapawning, shooting him in the butt. He's reappear looking in another direction around this same spot, butt shoot him again.

My second meeting, he seemed even easier. I mostly had trouble moving.

He doesn't feel like much of a enemy. Almost sad, that I am doing him a charity interacting with him. That shooting him in the butt releases his karma burden, or gives him enlightenment, so he can go on to wherever people like him goes.

I never bothered to make a vehicle in DS1 but could see how to make one. I have about 3-4ths of the roads constructed in DS2 now, and realized I have no idea how to make one. Tried several times, different spots.

Admittedly, I could just continue on using other people's vehicles, seems no shortage.

Is it common knowledge what happens when you put a bucket on your head in a hotspring? I triggered it completely by accident with no prompting. Is it supposed to be a mission later on?

I was at the motherhood in DS2, and was wasting time getring the rail and road network to the mine set up (never enough reaources). I was suppposed to go do something at F2, and my character looked hot and sweaty. Sun was just going down. So I sat down on the hot spring. Looked at the stars, saw 5 constellations. Then I was given the option to put a bucket on my head, and next thing I knew, my talkong puppet was swimming and singing in Japanese. It went on for a while, and no bucket head option was available during this.

So if I wasn't screwing around, I never would of discovered I had the ability to nude teleport. Or that my puppet was secretly Japanese.

I just tried Airbnb in the US to train it up for moving overseas, and the host ghosted me like I was a worthless nothing, despite being forced to pay in advance. Is there something safer and more reliable in the Philippines and South East Asia? A app? Ideally you get the confirmation of staying upon booking, no 24 hour wait and see while airbnb has your funds?

Will be moving to the region later in the summer. I'm seriously unnerved about how I was treated right before checking in (never met), and I see on internet forums hosts are paranoid about renting if the guest hasn't had several positive reviews? How do I review if new? You got access to airbnb who has my ID and financial info if you have to sue.

This paradox is like the job advertisement for a entry level employee with +10 plus years of experience, no prior experience required. Hotels don't do that- you book, you show up, show ID, get keys after payment. Airbnb took over $1000 in advance (I booked for a month) and then let the host play games with me. I really hope my bank allows me to book a seperate hotel now, will really hate to sleep outside because of this. Just so backwards and unreliable.

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/7HFjU3Y0PMI

That looks remarkably similar in concept, not design, to my travel set up using The Beast.

It is a 3D set of glasses, hooked up to a phone able to connect to my smart watch, I get cell and some satellite connectivity, and the printer is my cellphone display I suppose. I'm sure someone has a portable printer, I used to.

I'm a American, and was looking to move to either Bacolod or Iloilo City later in the summer. I'm nervous about Bacolod now because there is a insurgency there. It happened on the other side of the mountains from Bacolod, but kept reading how up in the hills there are Marxist no-go zones. If you go on a hike up there, you don't come back.

Given I hike alot, this has me unnerved. Is Iloilo City suffering the same situation with insurgency? Can you go up into the mountains and hike a trail and not face capture?

From my understanding it is a old movement, on the decline, but they managed a 12 hour stand-off against trained infantry. I looked up the two Americans that died, and they don't seem like innocent bystanders, so I am not too worried about the local Army. It's getting nabbed by ignorant people shouting slogans and swinging machettes due to yankee imperialism, and whatever current events somewhere else in the world nobody knows about as their excuse to blow off steam and feel important and justified, that has me worried.