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How many of you would describe yourselves as kind, respectful, or gentle?

I'm writing a character who doesn't really fit ISFP, so the only logical conclusion is she's ISTP. But ISTPs typically get stereotyped as avoidant, rude, cold, etc. Whereas she's definitely distant, but not cold, and is kind and gentle to other people. If you cried in front of her, she wouldn't know what to do to help, but she wouldn't be mean or tell you to get over it either. Is this possible/common enough for ISTPs?

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u/IndependentFar9258 — 3 days ago
▲ 64 r/mbti

Most posts on this subreddit are kindergarten level understanding of MBTI. Most of them are teenagers/young 20s.

"teehee im a T user which means i use LOGIC and hate feelings xD" Funny, because that's the most emotional, irrational, out-of-touch-with-reality thing you could say. But okay buddy, whatever you say!

"I think she's a F type because women are more emotional" What a great display of sexism! Anything else?

"INFPs are bad with logic so you shouldn't ask them for help" Wow Janet, I had no idea that a type that is inherently analytical and introspective somehow also has no ability to rationalize or reason. Please, show me your ways.

I am BEGGING for this sub to become 18+ only or at least make people have their age in their tag so we can filter out all the people born yesterday who have the most surface level understanding of MBTI and only got into it because their favorite kpop idol talked about it once. PLEASE.

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u/IndependentFar9258 — 4 days ago

INTP 6w5 MBTI grid thing. Let me know what you think!

This is super INFP-coded, I know, but lately I've been in a point in my life where I'm more emotional and sensitive than normal. I had a lot of bad things happen to me this year. I also grew up around NFs, so I didn't grow up stifling my emotions much. I think overall INTPs are actually/can actually be quite emotional on average, they just either larp as being emotionless to appear "edgy" or "cool", they stifle and bottle it up as a coping mechanism, or they're like me where they're more in-tune due to the opportunities and lessons life has taught them. And yes, I'm sure I'm an INTP.

I tried to make it aesthetic so it wasn't a complete eyesore.

If you're curious, here's an explanation for them:

  1. I do figure skating ~20 hours a week. I've done it since I was 8. Initially I was pushed into it by my parents to do competitions, but I hated competing and just wanted to do it for myself, so once I turned 18 I left my parents and gained my freedom to live life on my own accord. I don't have a competitive bone in my body, I just do it for fun. People keep telling me to compete because I can do triples and am close to getting a quad lutz, but I don't want to.

  2. I try to dress put together but also cozily. I don't have too much of a preference, I can appreciate all kinds of styles. But I mainly dress relatively plainly.

  3. 6w5. Test did say my second closest, off just by 10%, was 5w4. After that, 6w7.

  4. I like a lot of music so this was hard. I chose this because the lyrics match how I've felt for a while now. I've been in 3 relationships and they all ended with me being cheated on. I'd like to find someone who won't hurt me like that. There's someone I'm interested in, and I hope if we do break up, it's not because of something so awful. But I also feel afraid that it'll happen again.

  5. Incredibly Nuanced Type (of) Person, or I Need To Pee

  6. I love cats.

  7. Idk the sky is pretty and I get my best solutions and critical thoughts when cloudgazing.

  8. I like the idea of traveling, hate the execution. Bed is best.

  9. Strawberry matcha drinks are my latest obsession. I drink 3 of them a day. Some of my coworkers have bought me expensive matcha just for this habit.

Let me know what you think.

u/IndependentFar9258 — 5 days ago

Bit of a darker topic, but when did people in the United States begin using less corporal punishment against their children?

For a little context, several years ago, I read a biography of a woman who lived on the frontier in Wyoming/Montana starting somewhere around 1880. The biography was written in the earliest 1900s, probably around 1905. I remember being extremely shocked as she mentioned how she admired the local native Americans for their complete absence of spanking their children, and how after witnessing their methods, ceased doing so herself. She also mentioned that corporal punishment was a hot topic and, to my complete surprise, recounted that many parents actually were not spanking their kids already by then. I thought this was a very recent thing in history where people stopped doing it as much, but she went into detail how many people believed an instrument to be barbaric and would either only spank with an open palm or just simply never at all.

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u/IndependentFar9258 — 13 days ago

In places where abortion is legal and easily accessible, men should not be required to provide child support.

I'm a woman and pro-choice. That also means pro-choice for the father. My opinion is based on the premise that consenting to sex is NOT consenting to having a child. I stand by this 1000%.

"B-B-But women have to carry the child so it's their choice!" Yes, I agree 100%. And, if you willingly have a child in a place where abortions are easily accessible and legal, you should not be allowed to gather child support from a man if he doesn't explicitly agree to the pregnancy. You want to make a stupid decision? You can suffer the consequences alone.

"B-But think of the children!" I literally don't care? Girl fuck them kids. The mother put HERSELF in that position WILLINGLY. SHE is responsible for their suffering, not the biological father. Take the kids away if she can't provide.

This does NOT apply to places where abortions are illegal or difficult to access. If you live in a place where they're illegal, then you're consenting to having a child at the time of sex; or rather, you're going to be forced to have one, and you know that. You're coerced into the agreement, which sucks, but that's the reality.

I saw a post about someone wanting to have the kid of a ONS and I honestly felt so disgusted I had to put this out there. Having a child with a father you don't know the name of is so violating and disturbing; and the worst part is, he has no clue and has been deprived of his right to voice his concerns or have a say in this catastrophic decision. So if she finds him, she can force him to cough up hundreds of dollars a month for her selfish, stupid, shitty choice that he never consented to and has no idea what's happening. "But he had sex wi-" THAT IS NOT CONSENT TO A CHILD!! THAT IS CONSENT TO SEX!!

Edit: Since none of y'all can read the first three words of this post, once again: I AM A WOMAN. I also believe it is the government's job to step in/help if necessary, but NOT the bio father's. My biological father took his life after my mother chose to have me against his will and forced 400/mo payments onto his 800/mo paycheck. She can rot in hell and so can anyone else who forces a financial burden onto a man who didn't consent.

And yes, I am fine with supporting these kids through taxpayer money. That is SUCH a less severe financial burden when it's split among millions of people. I am not fine with the burden being placed on a single man who had his whole future ahead of him until some evil bitch decided to take his financial freedom away like my POS mother did. RIP papa, I miss you so fucking much.

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u/IndependentFar9258 — 21 days ago
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I think I'm INTP but I cry a lot and also feel a lot of empathy. Pls help

As title says I'm pretty sure I'm INTP but maybe I'm INFP? The only issue is I cannot relate to INFP's Te at ALL. That's not even remotely close to how my brain gathers data. It's very, very Ti. Every way I've had Te explained to me gave me a resounding sense of "no, not me". Ti feels right and functions exactly how my brain does.

But I cry all the time. I cry because the world is such a festering shithole, I cry because I miss my dead cat, I cry because I feel so lonely and misunderstood and like there's always going to be this fence between me and other people. I cry because I'm disabled and am in a lot of pain most days and can't live the life I want to. I was told that INTPs don't cry over any of this and it'd be unusual for them to. I was also told that INTPs dont know why theyre feeling things, but I pretty much always do. I was taught in therapy how to pick apart my emotions and figure out what thoughts are causing them.

Does this sound like INTP more or INFP more?

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u/IndependentFar9258 — 23 days ago

INTP or INFP? Please help

Hi friends, I'm pretty new to MBTI and I'm completely torn as to whether I'm INTP or INFP. I think I'm INTP, but I'm also a really sensitive and emotional person so maybe not? I have strong morals, but they're built off of what I consider to be the most logically consistent, reasonable, and rational conclusions I can draw. But despite that, I feel very strongly about them and often get upset when people say irrational, misinformed, harmful things. I find myself constantly fuming when on social media because it's filled with so many people who seemingly don't think at all and have no desire to be accurate or careful. Which sounds like INTP, but from what I understand, this wouldn't bother INTPs nearly as much as it bothers me, so I don't know. It bothers me because things like misinformation cause real, serious, measurable harm and make the world a shittier place with shittier people. It goes against the point of progress, of making things better for everyone and pursuing knowledge and truth.

Another issue is I'm really in tune with my emotions but that's because I learned in therapy that emotions are just a result of your thoughts and beliefs about any given situation or action. For some reason I didn't know this until my 20s....whoops

I'm not really sure what to put here that will help you guys decide for me so maybe I should just ramble a bit and see what happens?

Things that make me cry:

- PEOPLE BEING STUPID OH MY GOOOOOODDDDD BRO

- Sad/injured/hurt cats

- People belittling me, talking down to me, calling me names, yelling at me

Things I feel strongly about:

- Truth, knowledge, honesty

- Music

- My slightly irrational hatred of Drake

I'd list things I don't care about but honestly most of those I feel would not help distinguish at all.

I'd describe myself as:

- Perfectionist, want to explore every possibility, intelligent (I feel only slightly above average but logically I know I am incredibly above average; please don't come for me for this, I have very good reason to believe this about myself, this just isn't the place to describe why)

- Obnoxiously detail-oriented

- Tired.

- Actually kind of lowkey outgoing?

- VERY lost in the sauce

- Imaginative and creative, both logically and in art

- Kind and relatively empathetic

- Focused on improving and growing as a person right now, while also expanding my knowledge of different topics that interest me

- Future mad scientist

- Funnier than ENTPs (this is bait)

- My mom said my favorite word as a child was "why?" and I 1000% believe her.

I identify the most with:

https://preview.redd.it/g85e6j87iqfh1.png?width=820&format=png&auto=webp&s=3121bd4b4f508b1f18a49219ac64f6b7d854a8a5

This is me if you care.

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u/IndependentFar9258 — 24 days ago

It's been 2 years. How do I move on from someone I thought I would marry?

He's already moved on, he's had a girlfriend for almost a year now. I thought I was over him but TikTok recommended me her account randomly and I crumbled. I think the thing really holding me back is the fear I'll never find someone who checks so many boxes like that again. That and the fact the dating market is so so so cooked. Where are the lover boys?! The kind, gentle, loving, affectionate, honest, LOYAL men? He was damn near perfect. He had one serious flaw, but the great thing is that I truly believe he would've worked on it and was working on it. He's not the only person I dated that was perfect for me, but it's only him and 2 other men I've dated that I felt like were truly, genuinely my soulmate. I think multiple people can be my soulmate, but I'm scared that I've run out. That I'll never find such perfect men for me again.

How do I cope with this? This uncertainty? Please help me, I'm so embarrassed and angry at myself for being so heartbroken 2 years later. I feel ashamed and stupid for being angry and jealous at his new girlfriend. That's so unfair to her and I hate being this person. But I feel like she stole my last chance at love. She didn't actually steal anything from me, but that's how it feels like. I want to be able to get to a place where I can be genuinely happy for them both and not feel a lick of pain.

Please help me. I don't know how to handle this.

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u/IndependentFar9258 — 25 days ago