u/Joshyua527

The teams are

Manga: Luffy, Naruto, Ichigo
Platformer: Mario, Sonic, Kirby

Everyone has everything they have ever had in canon, meaning Naruto gets all techniques, Mario gets stuff from paper mario, Sonic gets all items, Luffy gets all forms, Kirby gets all copy abilities, and Ichigo gets anime exclusive stuff

All at full power so
Mario: Giga Cat + Pure Hearts
Sonic: Starfall Super Sonic + Excalibur
Kirby: Ultra Sword + Robobot Armor
Luffy: Gear 5 + Nightmare form
Naruto: Baryon mode + Kurama’s full power
Ichigo: Horn of Salvation + True bankai

With all that in mind, which team do you think wins and what diff

After seeing this post from the “Sonic is outer” and “I ban anyone from my sub if they don’t think Sonic is outer but Mario can’t reach 5D guys trust” and “I call Mario fans monkeys” guy get this much support with a post being a bunch of slander towards the Mario series scaling, calling it weak, I’ve decided i kinda wanna quit scaling and the overall vs community since i genuinely cannot handle it anymore. 677 is way too much. The Mega Man Zero scaling thread will still come out since I promised it to everyone but that will be my last project in the vs community.

I’ve alluded to this before but i genuinely cannot keep going in a community where characters I enjoy who should be treated the same are instead downplayed for no reason in a toxic manner. it isn’t fun and scaling isn’t fun anymore to me. Idk man I guess you win, I’m tired. The fact the common community consensus is that this verse is weak simply shows me I can not handle this anymore as petty as that sounds.

Bottom line and my main point, I just can’t continue to be in a community that treats a series I love so much like this, it’s gotten genuinely bad for my health.

Am I quitting for good? Idk hopefully, but the Kirby, Mario, and Touhou cosmology posts, GvE, CutMan vs Sukuna, Miyabi vs Homelander, Anakin vs Shigiraki, Maka vs Aizen, Kirby vs Moro, MegaMan Ws and Ls post, Kirby multipliers miniblog, the Belle vs Robert blog, and Piccolo vs Meta Knight are all over though, I just don’t want to do them anymore, I’ve frankly had enough and I’m tired of pretending to be unbothered.

Thought my take on this would be particularly interesting since i definitely got some picks that I feel many people don’t think of (yeah i count Shadow Man and Kuriboh since they appeared in Wily and Yugi’s armies making them combatants in the fights)

Ngl his MU spread ain’t the best

Bowser Stomps:
Imu (One Piece)
DIO (Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure)
Madara Uchiha (Naruto)
Asgore (UNDERTALE)
Sosuke Aizen (Bleach)

Bowser Wins:
King K. Roll (Donkey Kong)
Metal Sonic (Sonic The Hedgehog)
Dr. Wily (Mega Man)
Groudon (Pokémon)
Yhwach (Bleach)
Ganondorf (The Legend of Zelda)

Bowser’s Debatables:
King Dedede (Kirby)
Dr.Eggman (Sonic The Hedgehog)
Sigma (Mega Man)
Frieza (Dragon Ball)

Bowser Loses:
King Pig (Angry Birds)
Dr.Zomboss (Plants vs Zombies)
Vikemon (Digimon)

Bowser Gets Stomped:
Darksied (DC)
Shockwave (IDW Transformers)
Remillia Scarlet (Touhou)
Godzilla Ultima (Godzilla)
Thanos (Marvel Comics)

Bowsegg revisionists so insane to me, lowk the only reason I’m considering quitting scaling is bc those kinda fans make me exhausted lmao

People lowk just make up some bullshit for both sides

“Magic like the dreams tone wouldn’t work on Neo Metal! Idk why but they just wouldn’t!”

Or

“Bowser can just one shot everything!”

Fuckkkk I’m sooooo gassy rubs my belly and burps

Probably my most controversial post yet. Zero, Dimentio, Piccolo, and Kirby in particular are characters I will argue until I’m blue in the face are downplayed

Wanked:
Shadow (Sonic the Hedgehog)
Naruto Uzamaki (Naruto)
Zygarde (Pokémon)
Sonic (Sonic the Hedgehog)
Ganondorf (The Legend of Zelda)
Son Goku (Dragon Ball)
Wario (Super Mario)
Hiromi Higuruma (Jujutsu Kaisen)
Gilgamesh (Fate)
The Doctor (Doctor Who)
Hoshimi Miyabi (Zenless Zone Zero)
Jack Frost (Shin Megami Tensei)

Downplayed:
Piccolo (Dragon Ball)
Yukari Yakumo (Touhou)
Dimentio (Super Mario)
Maka Albarn (Soul Eater)
Zero (Mega Man)
Anby Demara (Zenless Zone Zero)
Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece)
Tails (Sonic the Hedgehog)
Jotaro Kujo (Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure)
Yugi Muto (Yu-Gi-Oh!)
Kirby (Kirby)
Wonder Woman (DC comics)

My favorite Dragon ball and Kirby character I fucking love these guys

Bigger post about the MU coming soon.

Anyways Piccolo has a lot of good win cons especially zoning out MK with better speed and range but I think MK takes it overall especially with his hax and AP.

That being said Kirby downplay is somehow becoming even bigger than Kirby glaze lately, wdym people are calling fights like Kirby vs Buu and Vegeta vs Dedede low diffs are we fucking fr 😭 deadass Sonic 06 levels of revisionism I cannot STAND some of yall it’s exhausting😭 but I’ll save the complaining for my next takes post ig

Also sorryyyyy the 6D Zero thread is taking longer than expected but Makoto vs Sigma chart is coming soon tho! Yall think I should do a 6D Kirby thread next? Idk I’m just rambling atp nobody even replies to the things I say here lmao

New Kira win con😮😮😮

This is a joke and don’t think this could actually be pulled off in the fight, I only want to make that clear here so that you know I was serious about Zero beating Metal Sonic in the other post like this 🤫

I feel most people agree Dragon Ball and Kirby are verses with similar power levels. RTDL and BoG are when both series get into the multiversal ranges

So with that said, CROWNED Magolor in RTDL is easily the strongest character in the game, I feel at this point in both series Base Kirby is comparable to God Goku in BoG. The thing is however it took Kirby, Meta Knight, Dedede, and Bandanna Dee to take down this form of Magolor and not just Kirby himself so I HIGHLY doubt BoG Goku would be able to do it by himself

Now both Goku and Kirby get continually stronger and stronger so the next contender would be RF Goku which I think could maybe do it extreme diff in Blue. The problem is CROWNED Magolor soul also exists and is even stronger, and while Goku has gotten MUCH stronger since BoG, I don’t think the jump is big enough just yet for CROWNED Magolor soul.

That leads to U6 arc Goku, with SSBKK I’m positive he can surpass CROWNED Magolor Soul and win the fight, after all it should be noted that Magolor’s base form already surpassed this form in his epilogue so it’s not out of Goku’s reach at all. Goku at this point is also VERY much in the 5D range (surpassing Hit’s timeskip) like Kirby’s “Another Dimension” very concretely is 5D (which had some of it’s universes destroyed with the destruction of the Master Crown as seen in the cutscene’s sequence of events) having multiple statements being beyond and transcending time and space.

So I think U6 arc Goku would be needed since he should keep up with 5D scaling that Magolor has in this form as well as being overall much faster.

I’d like to hear your thoughts tho, I think Resurrection F Goku is also definitely a contender so if you think that Goku could, lmk. but anything Pre-Battle of Gods Goku would be kinda unacceptable I feel.

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The fact Metal still has no way to resist “fuck you die” computer viruses is really funny to me

Someone brought one of these up in a conversation and it made me think about giving my takes on these kinda of matchups that are really only popular because there was a big Twitter discussion about them.

Jotaro vs Yuta
Donkey Kong vs Knuckles
Gojo vs Thragg
Mario and Luigi vs Sephiroth
Broly vs Bridget
Miyabi vs Sukuna

Just wanna say Bowser vs Eggman is probably the closest matchup we’ve gotten and I DO very much think Eggman has his own win cons even if I do agree with Bowser winning, but people who act like it’s a stomp for either side are lowk insufferable✌️😭

The amount of people I’ve seen genuinely talking down to Mario fans like they’re subhuman over this fight is insane too that’s all I gotta say

Ok so…

Kirby vs Buu: definitely more debatable since the Moro arc but I been seeing people say Buu low or mid diffs now?… what the fuck bruh no? Like if you think Buu wins okay ig that’s cool but anything below high diff? Fuckkkk no! Even if you don’t buy 6D Void then both Kirby and Buu are still both 5D? Shit’s close but Kirby’s got better hax so I think they win and slightly outstat even not factoring in 6D Void (since I’m aware it’s controversial)

Kirby vs Mario: Everyone who knows me on this sub knows these are the 2 characters I glaze even more than Zero so it’s no surprise I had a hard time coming up with a winner but ultimately since I have their hax be about even, the insane cosmological scaling buff the Pure Hearts give probably gives Mario the edge because of his stats

Kirby vs Yuyuko: Yeah duo we made up and all that bullshit, they’re both pink and gluttonous and also I wanted to do a touhou matchup most of all, I don’t really got much to say since she outstats and outhaxes pretty bad

Kirby vs Rogue: Lowk industry plant MU but yeah Rogue doesn’t really scale to Marvel’s heralds or absolute heaviest hitters unless she already has their power absorbed so she really does lose here

Kirby vs Soukaku: “The Smurfs are a famous group of small, blue, fictional characters who live in mushroom houses in the forest. They were created in 1958 by the Belgian artist Peyo.”

Kirby vs Galactus: come on man…

Kirby (Kirby)
Majin Buu (Dragon Ball)
Mario (Super Mario)
Yuyuko Saigyouji (Touhou)
Rogue (Marvel comics)
Galactus (Marvel comics)
Soukaku (Zenless Zone Zero)

Saw this MU had to fight against that composite transformers downplay, sorry girl ✌️😭

First one- yeah there’s just no getting past Return to Zero, if you don’t have a reality altering ability that transcends Diavolo’s timeskip which can already be above time and fate then you’re kinda fucked. Thought that was common knowledge but I been seeing people pullout random hax their character has and acting like it’s enough to bypass RTZ without knowing what it actually does

Also Lumine is better than Aetherrrrr #tbh

Second one- Haha guys remember the Bowser vs Spawn chart SHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTP SHUT UP!!!! GRAGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! also sorry King Bowsgoat but you stood no chance here unfortunately 😢. I don’t think the Dream Stone would even work on Ghost Rider

Giorno Giovanna (Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure)
Traveler (Genshin Impact)
Ghost Rider (Marvel Comics)
Bowser (Super Mario)