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Utahime doesn't have "deep hatred" for Gojo

I've seen the "Utahime hates Gojo" thing get taken way further than what the actual canon supports so I wanted to clear up what I mean when I say she doesn't hate him.

First, yes, Utahime genuinely dislikes Gojo. I'm not trying to argue against that.

Her character sheet says:

"五条のことは割とマジで嫌い"

Gojou no koto wa wari to maji de kirai

A common translation is:

"She hates Gojo most of the time."

That's not an accurate translation of 割と (wari to). It doesn't mean "most of the time." The sentence is closer to:

"She actually seriously dislikes Gojo."

五条のことは = "As for Gojo"

割と = "fairly", "rather", "actually/pretty"

マジで = "seriously", "for real"

嫌い = "dislike/hate"

I'm not going to pretend 嫌い (kirai) can only mean "dislike." Depending on the context, it can absolutely be translated as "hate." The important thing is that 嫌い by itself doesn't tell us that we're dealing with the strongest possible form of hatred.

Japanese has other words that more explicitly convey things like deep resentment or intense hatred. For example, 怨恨 (onkon) carries the sense of a grudge or deep resentment while 憎悪 (zouo) refers to intense hatred. I'm not saying Gege had to use one of these words if he wanted to say "hate" - language obviously doesn't work that mechanically. I'm just pointing out that 嫌い alone doesn't establish that Utahime has some profound or malicious hatred toward Gojo.

What the full phrase 割とマジで嫌い makes especially clear is that her feelings are genuine. She's not pretending to be annoyed or secretly playing along with Gojo's teasing. She seriously dislikes him and his behavior. That's canon. The idea that this automatically means she has some deep-seated hatred for him is the part that's being added on top of the text.

Her irritation is very real

This is also consistent with Gege's supplementary comments about Gojo being a source of stress for people. The fanbook basically jokes that Gojo is the source of stress for at least Utahime, Ijichi and Gakuganji, potentially Yaga too because having to give Gojo orders is stressful.

So yes, Gojo is genuinely annoying to Utahime because he constantly teases her, talks down to her, mocks her and deliberately gets on her nerves. She's been dealing with that since their school days.

But I've seen this "source of stress" comment used as evidence that Utahime deeply hates Gojo which is kind of funny because then we'd have to say Ijichi hates Gojo too.

Being annoyed or stressed by someone isn't automatically deep hatred.

Gojo doesn't even realize how much he annoys her

There's also a supplementary interview/comment explaining that Gojo doesn't know Utahime genuinely dislikes him.

From Gojo's perspective, their constant arguing is basically banter. He thinks they're joking around and considers them good friends. He apparently sees this as an inside joke they've had going since their school days.

Utahime, meanwhile, does not see it that way. She isn't joking around with him; she genuinely thinks he's an asshole.

I think this is important because there isn't anything malicious coming from Gojo's side either. There's no indication that he's deliberately trying to hurt her. He's just an obnoxious guy who enjoys annoying people and doesn't realize when he's actually crossed the line.

So their dynamic is basically:

Gojo: "Haha, I'm annoying Utahime again."

Utahime: "I genuinely fucking hate dealing with this guy."

Gojo: "We're such good friends." 💀

But Utahime still trusts him

This is where I think "deep hatred" becomes especially difficult to support.

Utahime clearly recognizes that Gojo is a great sorcerer and someone she can rely on professionally. Gojo trusted her enough to ask her to investigate the traitor at Jujutsu High and she helped him. >!She also helped him before he fought Sukuna. !<

It makes perfect sense that she dislikes him personally while still trusting him as a sorcerer at the same time.

They've known each other for years, have mutual friends and share the goal of protecting and raising the next generation of sorcerers. Their personal irritation doesn't erase that.

It's similar to how Nanami views Gojo: you can find someone insufferable and have very little respect for their personality while still having faith in them and trusting them when it actually matters.

So I don't think Utahime was secretly cheering for Sukuna or hoping Gojo dies or anything insane like that. She knows he's not a bad person. She just thinks he's an asshole.

I also think people make their relationship more complicated than it is

There's honestly not that much material about their interpersonal relationship. A lot of the fandom interpretation comes from familiar dynamics and tropes.

Some people see their constant arguments as a tsundere-type dynamic. Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. Some people interpret Gojo's behavior as him genuinely thinking their banter is a form of bonding. Others just see it as Gojo being annoying and Utahime being pissed off.

That's all interpretation.

If you ship them, cool. If you don't, also cool. Shipping is just for fun and you don't have to turn your interpretation into a statement about what the other person "doesn't understand" about the characters.

Personally, based on what we're actually shown, I think the simplest reading is:

They're old colleagues who have known each other for years, have a degree of professional trust and can work together just fine while Utahime personally finds Gojo incredibly annoying and genuinely dislikes his behavior.

That's it.

She dislikes him. She hates his antics. But she still trusts him. And doesn't have deep, malicious hatred for him.

Those things aren't contradictory.

Also I'm not saying any of this because I ship them. I just like Utahime and I don't like seeing her characterization get turned into "Utahime genuinely hates Gojo and wanted Sukuna to kill him" 💀

Like dude, she thinks he's an annoying asshole but she isn't seriously plotting his downfall 🙏

TL;DR Utahime genuinely dislikes Gojo. Gege literally says so. His teasing annoys her and her irritation is real. But 嫌い doesn't automatically mean profound, malicious hatred and nothing in their actual relationship suggests she wants him harmed or considers him an enemy. She can think he's an annoying asshole while still trusting him as a sorcerer, working with him and recognizing that he's a good person underneath all the bullshit.

u/Fantastic_Baby_1496 — 4 days ago

Why is the GojoHime fic hate so intense?

Okay, maybe I'm missing something but I genuinely don't understand the amount of hate I've seen specifically towards GojoHime fanfics 😭

I've read A LOT of fanfiction from different anime, TV shows etc and recently GojoHime and Royai have completely taken over my brain. So obviously I started looking for GojoHime fic recs.

And while doing that, I kept coming across people saying stuff like "GojoHime fics are toxic", "they always make Gojo abusive", "they're weird", "the fics suck", etc.

Like... what? 😭

If you haven't seen this kind of hate, you're honestly lucky lol. But it's not like I'm making it up either. If you're curious, just search "GojoHime fics" and you'll see what I mean. There's quite a few people talking about the fics like they're all some toxic mess.

And that's what I don't get because I've read quite a lot of GojoHime fics now and most of them aren't even toxic. Sure, some are. But that's gonna happen with basically every popular ship lmao. You can find problematic fics for pretty much anything if you look hard enough.

I've read fics for some MUCH more problematic ships, including a weird popular crack ship I like that's basically 100% toxic and I don't see people constantly going after the fics for that ship in the same way 😭

And it's not even just random comments I've seen. I have a friend who wrote stuff for GojoHime and they shared their Twitter account on one of their fics. They ended up getting harassed on Twitter over the ship and eventually stopped writing for the JJK fandom altogether.

That one honestly got me because none of us have ever had something like that happen over a ship before. We've all been in fandoms and read/written for different ships, including some pretty questionable ones and I've never seen it get to the point where someone gets harassed so much that they just stop writing for the entire fandom.

Like, if you don't like GojoHime, that's completely fine. I don't really care lol. But why are people going out of their way to hate on the fics too? And sometimes it genuinely feels like they haven't even read the fics they're criticizing 😭

It's not like fanfiction is supposed to be some perfect representation of canon characters anyway. People exaggerate characters, make them more obsessive, change their personalities, ignore certain parts of canon, romanticize things, etc. That's literally just fanfiction.

I've also read some SatoSugu fics too where I'm just sitting there thinking, "Sorry but I don't think this fic comprehends Gojo at all" 😭. You get those fics where Gojo is basically this obsessive dude who >!can't get over Geto's death and regrets killing him !<while a lot of Geto's actual character and the horrible shit he did gets pushed aside.

But I'm not gonna look at those fics and conclude that SatoSugu fanfiction is inherently bad. It's just... fanfiction 😭

So I genuinely don't understand why GojoHime seems to get singled out so much for this.

Maybe I've just been lucky with the fics I've read, but from my experience, most GojoHime fics I've come across aren't even remotely as toxic as some people make them sound.

Idk, I guess I just don't get it.

Art Source Link: https://x.com/catyyps/status/1875527533904720145?s=20

Edit: Also a funny picture I found: https://imgur.com/a/CWsSCje

u/Mysterious_Put_1462 — 4 days ago

Jujutsu Kaisen is overrated (not bad, just not the masterpiece some people claim it is)

Before people start typing "you just don't like battle shonen," that's not my point.

I'm not saying JJK is bad. I enjoyed it. Hidden Inventory was great, Shibuya was genuinely exciting and Gege clearly has talent for creating cool characters, abilities and memorable moments.

My issue is that I don't think the series is nearly as well-written as people claim it is.

The pacing doesn't allow the story to breathe

Ironically, the beginning of JJK is what made me expect more. The Junpei arc and Hidden Inventory showed that Gege could slow down and tell emotionally compelling stories. Those arcs had time to establish characters, build relationships and make their emotional moments actually hit.

However, after Shibuya, the series became much more focused on escalating fights.

From that point onward, it often feels like fight after fight with very little breathing room. Characters rarely get enough time to process what happened, reflect on their losses or simply exist outside of combat.

And to be clear, I don't think JJK has no emotional moments. It absolutely does. Yuji's guilt after Shibuya, Gojo's relationships with his students and other character moments are genuinely good.

My issue is that the story often doesn't stay with those emotions for very long before moving to the next conflict.

The Culling Game is probably the biggest example. The premise had a lot of potential: a battle royale involving different players, new techniques and the consequences of Kenjaku's plans.

However, it often felt like Gege was rushing from one fight to another. Many characters had interesting concepts but disappeared after their fights or never received much exploration beyond their abilities.

A lot of manga use quieter chapters to build relationships and make emotional moments hit harder. JJK often skips straight to the next battle and I think that's where many of its biggest problems begin.

The characters have a lot of potential but many feel underdeveloped

Because of the lack of downtime, a lot of the cast feels emotionally underexplored.

Outside of characters like Yuji, Gojo and maybe Yuta, many characters either get sidelined for large portions of the story, die before their potential is fully explored or simply don't receive as much depth as their introductions suggest.

Megumi is probably the biggest example for me.

He was introduced as one of the most important characters in the story. He had a connection to Sukuna, one of the most interesting techniques in the series with the Ten Shadows, a connection to the Zenin Clan and a huge amount of untapped potential.

And that's exactly why the "potential man" meme exists 😭

The frustrating thing about Megumi isn't that he was a bad character. It's that the story constantly made it feel like something bigger was coming.

His relationship with Tsumiki, his personal ideals, his connection to Sukuna and his growth as a sorcerer all seemed like they were building toward something major.

Yet by the end, many of those ideas feel underexplored.

His relationship with Tsumiki is probably the biggest example. So much of Megumi's motivation revolves around saving her but their relationship receives surprisingly little development which makes the emotional weight of that storyline weaker than it could have been.

The same applies to his relationship with Yuji. They had an interesting dynamic and very different views on life and death but the story rarely gave them enough time together to fully explore that.

Even the Ten Shadows Technique which was one of the most interesting abilities in the series, felt underused when it came to Megumi himself. Many of his developments happen off-screen and we rarely get to see him grow into the potential that was constantly teased.

His fight against Reggie was one of his best moments because it showed exactly why Megumi was interesting: his intelligence, creativity and willingness to take risks.

That's the version of Megumi many fans like me wanted to see more of.

But as usual, that didn't happen.

The final arc especially felt like a missed opportunity. I know Megumi suffered tremendously after Sukuna took over his body but I think the story could have done much more with his internal struggle.

A few chapters exploring Megumi fighting against his despair, confronting Sukuna's influence and realizing that his life still had value could have been incredibly powerful, especially after Yuji's efforts to save him.

And yes, I know the idea of Megumi finally fighting back after Yuji reaches out to him could be considered a more familiar or "generic" shonen moment.

But honestly, I think that is exactly the kind of moment JJK needed.

Something being predictable or using a familiar trope does not automatically make it bad. Execution matters more than whether an idea has been done before.

I think this is where Gege's desire to subvert expectations sometimes worked against the story. Constantly avoiding the expected route can be interesting but if it comes at the expense of emotional payoff, it can leave moments feeling less satisfying.

Because of that, Megumi's role in the final battle felt much smaller than the importance the story had previously given him.

The villains needed more exploration

Just to be clear, I don't think every villain needs a tragic backstory or some heartbreaking reason that explains why they became evil.

A backstory doesn't automatically mean a character needs to be sympathetic. Sometimes learning more about a villain simply helps us understand who they are, what shaped them and why they became such a feared figure.

That's actually part of why I like Sukuna.

He doesn't need a sad backstory to be interesting. His appeal comes from the fact that he is selfish, cruel and completely unapologetic. He does whatever benefits him and doesn't pretend otherwise.

However, I still think there was room to explore him more.

Sukuna is one of the most feared figures in the entire story, yet we know surprisingly little about his life during the Heian era. I would've liked to see more of the person behind the legend: how people viewed him, the fear he inspired, his reputation as the King of Curses, his relationship with Uraume, his interactions with people from that era and the actions that made him so infamous.

None of this would require making him sympathetic. If anything, understanding him more could have made him even more terrifying.

The same applies to Kenjaku.

The idea of someone who has spent centuries manipulating events, experimenting on humanity and shaping the entire jujutsu world is fascinating.

However, a lot of his appeal comes from the concept of what he is rather than a deep exploration of who he is.

The fact that Kenjaku was Yuji's mother had so much potential. It could have explored Yuji's feelings about being created as part of Kenjaku's plans, the implications of being an experiment and even Kenjaku's own feelings toward Yuji.

Did Kenjaku ever see Yuji as more than just a tool? Did he have any attachment to Jin or the family he created, even in his own twisted way? Did he understand Yuji as a person or only as an experiment?

There were so many interesting possibilities there.

Instead, a lot of these ideas remained unexplored.

Just like many characters in JJK, the villains often feel more interesting because of their ideas and implications than because of how deeply the story explores them.

The worldbuilding feels underexplored

The jujutsu world has so many interesting ideas: the Three Great Clans, the higher-ups, the politics between sorcerers, the history behind cursed techniques and how these systems shaped modern jujutsu society.

However, much of it remains surface level.

The Three Great Clans are a good example. They are introduced as some of the most influential families in the jujutsu world, with centuries of history, inherited techniques and major influence over sorcerer society.

But despite their supposed importance, we never get a deep look into how they maintained that power, how they shaped the world around them or what their role was throughout history.

The Zenin Clan storyline was one of the better examples of the series exploring its world and Maki's arc was a great moment (at least for me). But even then, it mostly served as part of Maki's personal journey rather than a larger exploration of the clan system itself.

The Gojo Clan is another example. Gojo is arguably the most influential modern sorcerer, yet we barely learn anything about the clan behind him or what role they actually play in jujutsu society.

The Kamo Clan is perhaps the biggest example of missed potential. Despite being one of the Three Great Clans, they receive very little exploration compared to the ideas the story sets up.

Even the inherited techniques themselves could have been explored more. The Ten Shadows Technique is treated as one of the most important abilities in the series, comparable to the Gojo Clan's Limitless and Six Eyes but we never really get to see the history behind these techniques, how previous users developed them or why these clans became so dominant.

The issue isn't that these concepts were bad.

The issue is that they create curiosity, but the story rarely spends enough time showing why they matter.

The female characters had a lot of potential too

I also think JJK's handling of its female characters is more inconsistent than people admit.

The series initially seemed like it would avoid many common battle shonen problems, especially with characters like Nobara and Maki. Unlike many series, JJK generally avoided heavily sexualizing its female cast and its female characters were often introduced as capable, confident and genuinely likable.

That already separated it from many other battle shonen where female characters are often criticized for being sidelined or poorly handled.

However, having strong introductions isn't the same as giving characters enough development.

Nobara in particular had a lot of potential. She was introduced as one of the main trio alongside Yuji and Megumi and she had a strong personality, clear ideals and a fighting style that felt unique.

However, after Shibuya, she was absent from the story for a huge portion of the manga. Her return came extremely late which made me feel like her character had been left behind rather than developed.

The frustrating part is that Nobara had so much potential. Seeing her grow stronger, develop her technique and explore her worldview could have been really interesting. (For gods sake, she's supposed to be the "heroine" man 😭)

Yuki Tsukumo is another example. She was introduced as a Special Grade sorcerer with one of the most unique perspectives in the series. Unlike Gojo or Kenjaku, Yuki rejected the existing jujutsu system entirely and believed the solution was to eliminate cursed energy itself rather than simply fight curses. That made her an interesting ideological foil to both of them.

Yet despite all that potential, she received far less focus than I expected. We barely learned about her past, her philosophy was never explored in much depth, her conflict with Tengen remained vague and we never even got meaningful interactions with characters who should have mattered to her like Todo or Yuji. For someone who spent years researching the soul, it's surprising that she barely interacted with Yuji despite his experiences with Mahito and Sukuna.

Her only major on-screen fight ended with her death and although she contributed through her research, it felt like she left the story before her character had the chance to fully shine. (Her dying genuinely annoyed me so much too lol)

On the other hand, Maki is probably the biggest exception. Her storyline with the Zenin Clan gave her significant development and when she was given time to shine, she became one of the strongest-written characters in the series.

Her growth, struggles and transformation felt earned and she is a great example of what JJK's female characters could achieve when the story actually gives them enough focus.

The issue is that many other female characters don't receive that same opportunity. Shoko is another example; her connections to Gojo and Geto could have made her perspective incredibly interesting but she mostly remains in the background despite being part of such an important era of the story. (I guess, Utahime atleast did something towards the end... Right?)

My problem isn't that JJK has no well-written female characters. It's that many of them are genuinely interesting, badass and memorable but they often don't get enough screen time or development before being pushed aside.

Like many other parts of JJK, the potential is there.

The execution is where it becomes inconsistent.

Gojo vs Sukuna was the biggest missed opportunity

Gojo vs Sukuna was a fight hyped up from the very beginning.

From the moment these two characters were introduced as absolute powerhouses, everyone knew a confrontation between them was inevitable.

And when it finally happened, the fight itself was genuinely entertaining. The strategies, abilities and action were some of the most exciting parts of the manga.

However, the conclusion and the way the fight was handled left me disappointed.

My biggest issue is that the story sometimes felt like it was explaining the fight afterward instead of properly showing it.

We were told what Sukuna's plan was rather than seeing enough of it play out naturally. We were told afterward that Sukuna wasn't fighting at his full potential rather than the story clearly showing that throughout the fight.

And I understand the argument that Sukuna is the type of character who enjoys fighting. I actually think that fits him. Sukuna isn't someone who necessarily wants to immediately erase every opponent as efficiently as possible. He enjoys testing himself, fighting strong opponents and experiencing something that interests him.

Basically, yes, Sukuna is a little bit of a "silly little guy" when it comes to fighting. He wants to have fun.

The problem is that the explanation and what we actually saw on the page don't always feel like they match.

Because from the fight we were shown, Sukuna did not feel like someone casually playing around. He was pushed extremely hard, struggled against Gojo's physical abilities, was affected by Black Flash and relied heavily on Mahoraga and the Ten Shadows Technique to find a way around Infinity.

So when the story later emphasizes that Sukuna still had more hidden power, it can feel disconnected from the actual progression of the fight.

Based on what we saw, Mahoraga adapting to Infinity was a crucial factor in Sukuna defeating Gojo. Sukuna used that adaptation as the basis for his world-cutting slash, which allowed him to bypass Infinity.

So if Sukuna had another reliable way to overcome Infinity all along, why wasn't it used? And if Ten Shadows was necessary for his victory, why did one of Sukuna's biggest fights focus so heavily on a borrowed technique instead of showcasing more of his own arsenal?

I don't think Sukuna needed to lose. I don't even think Gojo necessarily needed to win.

My issue is that the fight sometimes felt like the story wanted to preserve Sukuna's image as the ultimate monster while also making him struggle against Gojo who's the strongest sorcerer.

The result was a strange situation where Sukuna was portrayed as overwhelmingly powerful but the story also wanted to emphasize afterward that his struggles were intentional.

That made the victory feel less satisfying to me.

Then there is Gojo's death itself.

I wasn't upset that Gojo lost. A story where the strongest character loses can absolutely work.

My problem was with the execution.

After years of buildup around "the strongest," Gojo's defeat felt abrupt. The transition from Gojo seemingly having the upper hand to his death was not shown directly and the aftermath moved quickly into the next fight instead of spending more time on the consequences of losing such an important character.

For a character as important as Gojo, I expected more focus on what his death meant for his students, the jujutsu world and the people who depended on him.

Again, I don't think Gojo had to win.

I just think the moment deserved more time and emotional weight.

The ending felt underwhelming

I also want to talk about the ending because, honestly, my biggest issue with it isn't even that it was bad.

It was that it felt empty.

A bad ending can still make people feel something. It can make people angry, emotional, disappointed or spark interesting discussions.

But JJK's ending, in my opinion, felt more like the conclusion of an arc rather than the conclusion of an entire series.

Outside of moments like Sukuna and Mahito's conversation, which I thought was genuinely interesting, many parts of the final chapters felt strangely hollow. Important character arcs and plotlines didn't receive the closure they deserved and the story moved on before fully exploring their consequences.

The final conflict and Sukuna's defeat felt rushed, while the ending spent time on things like Simple Domain lore and explaining why certain plans wouldn't have worked instead of focusing on aftermath, emotional consequences and the future of the jujutsu world.

The Sukuna fight started to feel drawn out near the end and the heavy focus on binding vows made the conclusion feel less satisfying.

Character closure was another major issue.

Nobara's treatment throughout the story felt disappointing (I'm sorry but her sudden extremely late return is genuinely one of the biggest ass pulls I've ever seen 😭)

Megumi's storyline also ended with many readers feeling that his potential was never fully explored and even Gojo, one of the most important characters in the series, received very little acknowledgment afterward. A small memorial scene with characters like Megumi, Yuta and Yuji would have helped show the impact of his loss.

The worldbuilding also suffered. Ideas like foreign involvement with cursed energy, the future of jujutsu society, the consequences of the Zenin Clan's destruction and the merger were introduced but barely explored. Even the larger question of cursed energy, which several characters had different views on, never received much resolution.

Even if someone dislikes the ending of My Hero Academia, it still feels like a conclusion because we see the next generation move forward and get a clearer idea of how society changed.

With JJK, we don't really get that same feeling of change or progression.

That's what makes the ending disappointing to me. I can accept an ending being flawed or making choices I disagree with but an ending that feels empty is much harder to connect with.

Final Thoughts

I don't think JJK needed to become an extremely long series. More chapters alone wouldn't automatically fix everything.

However, I do think the story needed more breathing room. More space dedicated to character relationships, aftermaths, worldbuilding and emotional consequences could have helped many of its ideas reach their full potential.

And I want to make it clear: I don't blame Gege Akutami as a person. Creating a weekly manga is an extremely demanding process and Gege has also dealt with health issues during the serialization of JJK. My criticism is about the final product and the choices made in the story, not about the author himself.

Because honestly, Gege's creativity is clearly not the problem.

He creates incredible concepts and characters.

The problem is that many of them never receive enough development to reach their full impact.

At the end of the day, I think JJK is a fun action manga.

I just don't think it's the masterpiece many people make it out to be.

I'd give it around a 7/10.

Entertaining? Absolutely.

One of the greatest battle shonen ever written? I personally don't see it.

Feel free to disagree, but please understand the difference between "overrated" and "terrible."

Overrated does not mean something is bad.

It means I believe the amount of praise a series receives is higher than what I think its actual quality deserves.

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u/Mysterious_Put_1462 — 13 days ago
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AO3 by the Numbers: M/M vs F/M vs F/F Across Multiple Filters

I got curious about how AO3's relationship categories compare beyond the overall work counts so I collected data across multiple filters (word count, OTP: True and ratings). The tables are attached as images but here's a summary of the main findings:

The filters I used were:

  • Overall works
  • OTP: True
  • 1k+, 5k+, 10k+, 15k+ and 20k+ words
  • The same filters with Explicit excluded

For the Explicit analysis, I also calculated how many works were removed (as a percentage) when Explicit-rated works were excluded.

Here are the main things I found:

Overall archive

M/M overwhelmingly dominates AO3.

M/M: 8,571,829 works

F/M: 4,268,713 works

F/F: 1,706,051 works

That means:

M/M has about 2x as many works as F/M.

M/M has about 5x as many works as F/F.

F/M has about 2.5x as many works as F/F.

The order never changes, regardless of which filters are applied:

M/M > F/M > F/F

OTP: True

Filtering to OTP: True reduces every category considerably.

M/M: 5,666,972

F/M: 2,170,177

F/F: 899,822

Compared to F/F:

M/M has about 6.3x more OTP: True works.

F/M has about 2.4x more OTP: True works.

The ranking remains exactly the same.

Long works

As expected, longer works become much rarer.

At 20k+ words:

M/M: 757,316

F/M: 533,314

F/F: 198,704

At 20k+ + OTP: True:

M/M: 336,092

F/M: 161,148

F/F: 54,171

Here the gap becomes even larger.

M/M has about 2.1x more long OTP works than F/M.

M/M has about 6.2x more than F/F.

F/M has about 3x more than F/F.

The disparity doesn't disappear with stricter filters. It actually becomes more noticeable.

Explicit exclusion

Removing Explicit affects all three categories but not equally.

Overall:

M/M loses 24.51% of its works.

F/M loses 22.66%.

F/F loses 20.29%.

By 5k+ OTP: True, the difference becomes larger:

M/M loses 35.56%.

F/M loses 31.63%.

F/F loses 29.03%.

By 20k+ OTP: True, the gap is even clearer:

M/M loses 39.73%.

F/M loses 30.87%.

F/F loses 28.11%.

So long, OTP-focused M/M works are considerably more likely to be Explicit than long OTP-focused F/M or F/F works.

Rating trends

Each relationship category follows a different rating pattern.

M/M

Teen is slightly the largest rating overall.

After OTP: True and longer word-count filters, Explicit becomes the dominant rating and stays there.

F/M

Starts with Teen as the largest category.

Explicit becomes the largest rating in several mid-length datasets.

Around 15k–20k words, Mature overtakes Explicit.

F/F

Starts with Teen as the largest category.

Explicit briefly becomes the largest for 5k OTP: True.

From around 10k onwards, Mature becomes the dominant rating.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

Overall language distribution

>M/M (8,574,069)

English: 6,853,403 (79.93%)

Chinese: 1,107,054 (12.91%)

Russian: 209,374 (2.44%)

Spanish: 153,278 (1.79%)

Other: 250,960 (2.93%)

>F/M (4,269,713)

English: 3,878,466 (90.84%)

Chinese: 192,923 (4.52%)

Russian: 46,245 (1.08%)

Spanish: 57,129 (1.34%)

Other: 94,950 (2.22%)

>F/F (1,706,545)

English: 1,584,264 (92.83%)

Chinese: 56,750 (3.32%)

Russian: 13,687 (0.80%)

Spanish: 18,518 (1.09%)

Other: 33,326 (1.95%)

OTP: True language distribution

>M/M (5,668,395)

English: 4,446,522 (78.44%)

Chinese: 795,154 (14.03%)

Russian: 160,490 (2.83%)

Spanish: 92,922 (1.64%)

Other: 173,307 (3.06%)

>F/M (2,170,619)

English: 1,961,472 (90.37%)

Chinese: 108,375 (4.99%)

Russian: 27,051 (1.25%)

Spanish: 24,824 (1.14%)

Other: 48,897 (2.25%)

>F/F (900,061)

English: 829,666 (92.18%)

Chinese: 35,944 (3.99%)

Russian: 9,055 (1.01%)

Spanish: 7,593 (0.84%)

Other: 17,803 (1.98%)

>Concise main findings:

  1. English dominates all three categories, accounting for 79.9% of M/M, 90.8% of F/M and 92.8% of F/F works.
  2. M/M is the most multilingual by a considerable margin, with about 20% of works being non-English, compared to only about 9% for F/M and 7% for F/F.
  3. Chinese is by far the largest non-English language, especially in M/M (12.9% overall, 14.0% OTP: True)
  4. Russian consistently has more works than Spanish across all three relationship categories.
  5. The language distribution changes very little with OTP: True, suggesting OTP-focused works broadly reflect the overall language distribution.
  6. The only notable shift is a slight increase in the share of Chinese works after filtering to OTP: True.
  7. Together, English, Chinese, Russian, and Spanish account for roughly 97-98% of works in each relationship category.

Reader

Reader works are overwhelmingly F/M.

F/M: 325,081 (160,661 OTP: True)

M/M: 64,017 (29,661 OTP: True)

F/F: 37,907 (17,045 OTP: True)

F/M has about 5.1x more Reader works than M/M, and about 8.6x more than F/F. M/M also has about 1.7x more Reader works than F/F.

Gen

Overall: 3,246,054 works

No Explicit: 3,186,743

OTP: True: 962,058

OTP: True (No Explicit): 946,307

The rating distribution is: Teen > General > Not Rated > Mature > Explicit.

Explicit is the least common rating so excluding it barely changes the total.

Multi

Overall: 947,873 works

No Explicit: 684,197

OTP: True: 206,236

OTP: True (No Explicit): 146,456

Explicit is the largest rating category in both the overall and OTP: True datasets so removing Explicit has a substantial effect.

Other

Overall: 738,628 works

No Explicit: 592,325

OTP: True: 281,041

OTP: True (No Explicit): 212,305

Relationship distribution: M/M > F/M > Gen > Multi > F/F.

For ratings:

Overall: Explicit is the 3rd-largest rating.

OTP: True: Explicit becomes the largest rating.

Anyways, hope all this made sense! There was a lot of data to go through so sorry if it got a bit number-heavy lol.

Also, I'm not trying to target anyone or anything. This is just looking at the trends. We all already knew F/F is underrepresented xD. I was just curious to see how much the numbers changed depending on the filters.

I'd love to hear your thoughts. Did any of these results surprise you or were they mostly what you expected?

P.S. I made the tables yesterday and the language stats today so the totals/OTP: True counts may differ slightly.

u/Mysterious_Put_1462 — 21 days ago
▲ 2.5k r/AO3

People exaggerate how M/M dominated AO3 is

I kept seeing people say things like "AO3 is just yaoi" or "There's nothing to read unless you want M/M" so I got curious and decided to check the stats myself.

The collage is using a 20k-1 trillion word count filter since I wanted to compare longer works rather than every drabble and prompt.

For comparison, without that filter, the relationship categories are roughly:

M/M: 8.5 million+

F/M: 4.2 million+

F/F: 1.7 million+

otp:true stats without the filter:

M/M: 5,662,786

F/M: 2,168,761

F/F: 899,050

Here's also the otp:true statistics with the filter:

M/M: 335,750

F/M: 161,021

F/F: 54,113

Obviously M/M is the biggest category. Nobody's denying that.

But I think it's kind of weird how often people act like AO3 has nothing besides M/M or that F/M barely exists. The numbers really don't support that. F/M has a huge amount of content, both overall and in OTP-focused works.

If anything, the category that actually feels overlooked is F/F. Compared to both M/M and F/M, that's the one that seems genuinely underrepresented.

I just thought this was interesting because the way people talk about AO3 made me expect the gap between M/M and F/M to be much bigger than it actually is. The site's definitely M/M-heavy but it's not accurate to say there's "nothing else" to read.

Anyway, I just wanted to share my little stats rabbit hole with you guys.

(P.S. I hope I'm using the right flair)

Edit: I added the otp:true stats without the filter too

u/Mysterious_Put_1462 — 24 days ago
▲ 435 r/Gintama

The Shinsengumi Crisis Arc was PEAK.

I jotted down my thoughts after every episode while watching so here's my episode-by-episode reaction to the arc:

Episode 101 thoughts:

Hijikata apologizing and literally begging for his life to be spared at the start was hard to watch 😭🙏

Seeing Hijikata obsessed with magical girls and Jump was so funny. The guy doesn't even realize what he's doing by taking pictures of Kagura or getting so close to girls. Like... no wonder they're blushing, bro's attractive 😅 The Pretty Cure ringtone and everyone just staring at him had me dying too. That awkward silence lol.

Itou is really annoying bruh. I find it so frustrating how Kondou kept calling him "Sensei." Like, nah bro. I already don't trust that guy at all.

And Sougo being Sougo by taking full advantage of Hijikata's situation was funny as hell. The way he was sending him on errands and making him buy Jump lmao.

Really fun start to the arc. I'm curious to see where it's going.

Episode 102 thoughts:

Shinpachi arguing on live TV about otaku culture is such a random way to start the episode. Then it turns out the other guy is just Hijikata which makes it even funnier.

Hijikata making a doujin is absolutely killing me. And Gintoki yelling at him the whole time is hilarious.

"Sakata-shi!" (Shi means Mr. right?)

Okay, Hijikata asking Gintoki for help actually caught me off guard. Seeing someone as proud as him put his pride aside because he's worried about the Shinsengumi even while he's an "otaku" is touching.

"I want the Vice Commander's seat."

Well, Sougo not siding with Hijikata is honestly expected lol. But I have a feeling he won't let anything happen to Kondou. HOPEFULLY

Itou saying, "My greatest sorrow is that the only man who understands me is my enemy..."

Man... I couldn't care less. I seriously can't stand this guy.

BRUH, I really hope Yamazaki isn't dead... He's such a fun character. Leave him alone 😡

"Get your hands off him, you bastard."

Oh God... this last scene. Sougo is so badass

"That place beside him is my seat."

I KNEW SOUGO WOULDN'T LET ANYONE TOUCH KONDOU!!!!

Episode 103 thoughts:

SOUGO IS SO GOATED. I LOVE HIM

"I see faces I know... But if they're following you, I suppose they're prepared to die."

"As captain of the Shinsengumi's First Division, I'll offer you one last piece of advice. When facing an enemy with an overwhelming difference in strength, the best way to overcome his power is by depending on numbers. Breathe as one. Link your hearts and bodies. And at the right moment, come at him together and cut him down!"

Everyone attacks him...

"...And then die."

HOLY SHIT 🥶 The violence, the blood, the look on Sougo's face... I got chills. He's so badass.

THIS FACE BRO 😭 https://imgur.com/a/Zfd7BMc

Also...

Hijikata: "Why send me?! That's like sending Yamchi to save the universe!"

Gin: "You're Begeta! You can do it!"

Yamcha is useless in his own anime and in other anime 😞

The conversation between Gin and Kondou is sad.

Kondou: "Why? He brought you here?"

Gin: "It's his will. He's been cursed and turned into this loser otaku."

Kondou: "What the hell did he tell you to do in such a state?"

Gin: "To please protect the Shinsengumi."

Then Kondou realizing how badly he misunderstood Hijikata... Him blaming himself for it all is not okay at all. Like it's not your fault 🙏

Glad Hijikata knocked some sense into him:

"Kondou-shi, I will give you my life. You are, in return, charged with a responsibility because of it. That is to not die! You have to live on no matter what. No matter what disgrace you have to face or how many members die in front of you, you have to live on. Because as long as you're around, the Shinsengumi won't end."

"You're the soul of the Shinsengumi, and we're the swords that protect that soul."

YEPP!!! THE WAY THEY ADMIRE HIM IS SO CRAZY

And THAT ending...

"Yorozuya! I heard that rotten lecture of yours! Thanks for all that!" (I love his friend/rivalship with Gin lol)

Gin: "Oi, oi... looks like your soul's been consumed by the sword again. Tosshi, is that you?"

"I am the Shinsengumi Vice Commander, Hijikata Toushirou."

LET'S GOOOOO 🔥 I'm so excited to finally see him fight. I also really hope Kondou gets to fight too because the way everyone respects him makes me think he's going to be hella strong.

Episode 104 thoughts:

THE FIGHTS ARE SO GOOD.

Hijikata finally fighting as himself again is so satisfying. The moment he says,

"I am the last line of defense for protecting Kondou-san and the Shinsengumi."

Chills 🥶

Sougo absolutely steals every scene he's in. Bro casually wipes out Itou's entire faction and then just tells Hijikata,

"If you ever show weakness as vice commander, I'll kill you and take your place."

Nahhh, Sougo might actually be my fav

Oh so now we're finally getting some context on what's happening...

So Bansai is with Takasugi, I didnt expect that... They've basically just been using Itou this whole time, huh... Takasugi sure is mysterious lol

Then Bansai calls Gintoki "Shiroyasha." Wait... what does that even mean?? They even show that image of Gintoki covered in blood with bodies all around him. I NEED his backstory already 🙏

Also, Gintoki is actually MENTAL. Bro is literally tearing himself apart trying to break free of Bansai's wires and he just keeps WALKING.

"That bond is rotten!"

SUCH A HARD LINE.

And then ofcourse, OFCOURSE WE GET Itou's backstory. Every anime needs to give the bad guy a tragic backstory 🙏 Just let me hate him please

Oh wait, damn.

I still don't like him but learning why he turned out the way he did actually makes me feel bad for him. Imagine growing up hearing your own mother basically wish you were never born...

Kondou reaching out to save Itou instead of letting him fall is exactly why everyone follows him. He's such a genuinely kind person even after everything Itou has done.

Then Hijikata cutting down the helicopter was SO COOL 🔥

Then Itou holding Hijikata's hand while they both say, "I hate you. I'm going to kill you. So don't die here!"

That's ironic 😂

WAIT... WHY IS ITOU TAKING THE BULLETS FOR KONDOU???

Also Gintoki stabbing Bansai through the helicopter window was INSANE. THEY'RE ALL BEING INSANE 😭

I HAVE TO WATCH THE FINALE RIGHT NOW.

Episode 105 thoughts:

GINTOKI IS ACTUALLY SO AMAZING

Bansai keeps calling him a ghost of the past who's clinging to a rotten country and dying samurai

And then Gin-san just goes:

"I never cared about this country or the samurai. What I'm fighting for now hasn't ever changed."

OFCOURSE 🔥

The way he somehow survives the fall, wraps Bansai's own strings around the helicopter and drags the whole thing down is absolutely mental. I'm loving this!

Then Shinpachi explaining "rotten bonds" to Itou...

"You're just lonely."

It finally clicks for him that the thing he'd been searching for all along was right there in the Shinsengumi and he threw it away himself.

GOD... that killing scene was so sad and bittersweet :(

I didn't even want to like Itou but seeing the Shinsengumi refuse to let him die as a traitor, instead choosing to send him off as one of their own...

Him finally seeing everyone around him...

"Arigato."

NEVER has a such a scene felt so peaceful. I don't dislike him now lol.

Hmm, that conversation between Bansai and Takasugi has me REALLY curious.

"I fell in love with his song. I wanted to hear more of it."

Well, I'm so curious about how Gintoki, Katsura, and Takasugi are all connected. It's obvious Takasugi wants to destroy everything because of something and Gintoki clearly seems to have a really messed-up past too 😶

And WHAT'S Shiroyasha?? Man, I need answers.

OKAY ALRIGHT, AT LEAST YAMAZAKI IS ALIVE LMAO. I like Bansai alot. He doesn't seem to be a heartless killer, bro just let yamazaki live cuz he liked "his song". I definitely would like to know more about him.

Yamazaki is still getting the Yamazaki treatment though 😂 Bro comes back just to find everyone holding his funeral... along with a dog's that is💀 And the dog is the centre of attention 🙏

I also love that even after everything, Hijikata still isn't completely free from Tosshi. The ringtone going off at the end is the perfect Gintama way to end such an emotional arc.

Final thoughts:

Simply PEAK. Easily my favorite arc so far. My best decision was sticking with this anime.

Though, my only real disappointment is that we didn't get to see Kondou seriously fight but oh well... I'm sure that'll happen later. At least we got to see him actually being serious while talking lol

I also think it would've been even better if Itou had been introduced beforehand even if it was just as a background character. It would've made his role feel a bit more natural. But honestly, it didn't take away from how much I enjoyed the arc.

More than anything, this arc just left me with so many questions. I NEED to know what's going on with Gintoki, Katsura, Takasugi, Shiroyasha and all of that.

And somehow, this arc made me love Sougo even more lol.

Anyways, what do you guys think about this arc? I'd love to hear your thoughts! Just please, no spoilers 🙏

u/Mysterious_Put_1462 — 1 month ago
▲ 307 r/Gintama

This is so much funnier if you remember Ikumatsu 😂

Episode 99 absolutely killed me 😭 Katsura somehow ignoring the heroine and ending up on the widow route is already hilarious but then Gin just had to make it worse by mentioning "Zura's *wife* fetish" which immediately made me think of Ikumatsu 😅

I love Zura and his... very specific preferences 😂 I really hope Ikumatsu shows up again in future episodes because I genuinely loved their dynamic

u/Mysterious_Put_1462 — 1 month ago
▲ 1.4k r/DrStone

Why do people still insist Senku is aroace?

I'm genuinely asking because I still see people state it as if it's canon when Inagaki's own comments point in a different direction.

In an interview, Inagaki said:

「千空は普通の子だから普通にエロいよ」

"By the way, Senku is a normal kid, so he's normally into lewd things."

Translation of the interview: https://x.com/asterakix/status/1888288612447646080

I know someone's probably gonna bring up that "asexual people can have a libido" and that's true. Asexuality isn't the same thing as having no sex drive. But I don't think that's what Inagaki was trying to say here. He's describing Senku as a pretty normal teenage boy. The point seems to be that Senku's lack of interest in dating isn't because he fundamentally can't experience attraction or has no interest in it. It's because he's completely consumed by science and rebuilding civilization.

Even in Science 4D, when Kohaku jokes about marrying him, Senku's response isn't "I'm not interested in romance." It's "I'm too busy for that stuff right now." That's a pretty important distinction.

Honestly, if the author explicitly clarifies something about their own character, I don't really see why we'd keep arguing against it. Headcanons are totally fine. If you like seeing Senku as aroace, that's your interpretation but it's different from saying it's canon. Based on what Inagaki said, it doesn't seem to be.

Edit: Please read the whole post before replying. I promise I'm not saying that people can't have headcanons.

u/Mysterious_Put_1462 — 1 month ago
▲ 693 r/Gintama

Y'all, I thought Gintama was just supposed to be a comedy anime...

I'm not someone who usually cries while watching anime but this final scene actually made me tear up. My heart can't take this man

u/Mysterious_Put_1462 — 1 month ago