u/Newduuud

Is it normal to only be attracted to clothed women?

I think women with their clothes on are pretty and attractive (well, physically at least). But the actual nude female body is kind of… off-putting to me? I don’t know how else to describe it. I’m not repulsed by naked women, but their loose boobs and butts just look kind of weird. Vaginas too. Which is weird because I’m attracted to clothes that accentuate those features but not those features themselves. Is there some way to fix this or not?

Edit: To everyone saying I’m gay, I’m not attracted to men and never have been.

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u/Newduuud — 1 day ago

The way to fix the gender wars is for men to become more like women.

I think that many of the problems created by the gender war could be mediated is for men to look at the way women conduct themselves, and emulate certain parts of their behavior.

First, is self-esteem. Most men have a very negative view of their own self worth in the dating market, this much is clear. Men chase any woman they see like they’re the most important prize on Earth and base their entire self worth around them. Women, meanwhile, view themselves as goddesses and 10s, no matter how they actually look. Not only that, but they view essentially every member of the opposite sex as innately worthless garbage that is disposable at a moment’s notice.

The key here is delusion. Men have the unfortunate habit of trying to look at themselves from an objective standpoint, rather than simply viewing themselves as being entitled to the world. Now, the word “Delusion” has a negative connotation, but delusion isn’t always a bad thing. In fact, delusion is, in this case, a very good thing. Men should act like every woman he meets is lucky to even be in his presence, no matter his objective standing. Men should view women not as prizes, but as a bunch of creeps trying to vie for his attention. They should nag and demean members of the opposite sex until they view themselves with such little self worth that the men seem like a valid option. Only then can things be improved.

The second point is argumentation. If you’ve ever argued with a woman then you know exactly what I’m talking about. They will deliberately misinterpret your words, put words you didn’t say in your mouth, accuse you of random things unrelated to the argument, and they would rather drag both of you down to hell crying and screaming than admit their own faults. Now, men see this behavior as a bad thing, because they stupidly try to argue from a logical standpoint, and let themselves be convinced by good arguments. Meanwhile, women go into arguments believing that they are inherently right by virtue of being female, reason be damned.

It’s like a pro boxer going up against a street thug. No matter how good the boxer is, the street thug will always win because he ends up pulling out a knife or a gun. This different in argumentation is a big ready why the gender wars are at the point where they are, because men are too willing to concede to women, so their misandry has gotten a deep hold within our society. To fix this, men should argue on the level of women. Deliberately use fallacies, appeal to emotions, immediately deny and deflect when called out, and use personal insults to get your way.

The last point I’ll address is collectivism. Now, men have a bad habit of viewing people as individuals. They approach each person they interact with as a blank slate. Women, meanwhile view the world like this: Women good angels who can do no wrong, men pieces of shit who can do no right. Women will never, ever call each other wrong thanks to their incredible in-group bias, and any woman who does is branded a “pickme” and ostracized. Meanwhile, whenever a man makes a point, he is seen as wrong by default, unless allowed to be otherwise by the group.

I think that men should view things how women do it, just in reverse. They should see each other as ontologically perfect angels who can never make a wrong point, and treat any criticism against men as a personal attack against themselves. Ostracize any man who agrees with women, even if the women are correct. And treat women as if they are always wrong, even if they’re making the exact same point as men are.

Men, we have to face that women are much better at certain things than we are. And the way to bridge that gap isn’t to refuse to be like them, but to be more like them. Only then can the sexes truly be more equal.😊

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u/Newduuud — 3 days ago

It’s becoming very fucking hard for me to sympathize with women about misogyny at this point

The way women who supposedly love men talk about us you’d think we were all pol pot level war criminals who deserve the worst of the worst, meanwhile the average guy is literally some random joe just trying to make a living for himself and his wife who probably hates him and wouldn’t touch him with a ten foot pole.

They want us men to go fight misogyny, meanwhile they’re so comfortable spewing blatant misandry that would ruin their careers if they were talking about literally any other group of people. And not only that, but they always defend each other for saying horrible shit about men like they need to be misandrists in order to survive. And they never ever call each other out for it, yet they want us to call out misogyny? Bitch please.

And whenever you try to call out how shitty women are to men, there’s always some bum ass female who comes out of the woodwork like “bUt whAt AbOuT mUh miSogYnY?”, meanwhile women are three times more likely to have a negative view of men than the other way around (source: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/women-men-femosphere-new-statesman-poll-b2958208.html). Guess that whole “muh muh manosphere is making men hate women” shit was projection all along, huh? “UH UH ANDREW TATE!11!” let’s start with the thousands of misandrist creators who get millions of likes every month, huh?

“But men kill women every day!” yeah? Honestly, if I spoke to men the way women speak about men, I’d get killed too. But unlike them I actually have a sliver of respect in my body, so I don’t. The worst part is how many men are bought in on the kool-aid too, since they actually *like* women and are desperate for their validation. Meanwhile women want to get rid of us so badly they’re willing to spend *thousands of dollars* just to *live without men for a week* (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperShe_Island). You take a man to a place without women and he’d probably end up depressed. Yet “mEN hAtE wOmeN”.

Women act like it’s our fault that all of them hate us, and once we’re through with misogyny all the man-hate that women have inside of them is just gonna snap out of existence instantly. Men are literally better than ever, and women meanwhile are worse than ever. What does that say?

“BuT wEmEn aRe haVinG thEIr rIgHtS tAkEn AwAy!” I don’t fucking care at this point. I’m usually against authoritarianism and I used to be pro-choice, but at this point I couldn’t care about this shit anymore even if I tried. The way women act right now makes the Handmaid’s Tale look like a utopia more than a dystopia.

“I wish men didn’t exist” “Men suck” “Men are literally useless” “All men are garbage” “Yes it’s all men” and yet I’m supposed to care about women. Fuck off.

u/Newduuud — 5 days ago

Men who still romantically desire women: How?!

I’m not 100% whether or not I’ve been aromantic from the beginning, but what I do know is that right now I have absolutely zero desire for anything romantic with a woman. After learning that the average woman not only thinks men are physically disgusting, but is deeply misandristic and hates us just for existing, even the idea of romance with a woman is genuinely repulsive to me. I would like to know what it’s like, but I couldn’t catch feelings for a woman even if I tried (which I have). I can barely even see them in a positive light anymore, after knowing how so many of them talk about men when they think we’re not listening, or even when we are (I’ve had multiple female acquaintances tell me they hate men, right to my face). To know all of this and still long for women is mind-boggling to me, and I want to know what the thought process is behind it.

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u/Newduuud — 5 days ago

Not even straight men are as attracted to women as straight women are

Yeah straight men think women are hot but at the end of the day most of them just want to have sex with somebody. So-called “straight women” on the other hand are completely obsessed with each other. They’re always staring at each other’s bodies, glazing each other’s appearances, and the moment you give some of them either alcohol or privacy, they’re all over each other. Most men don’t even check out women as much as other women do. And women fall in love with each other more in a week then they’d love a man throughout a lifetime. If you think I’m wrong you just haven’t been around enough women. I guess having their lesbianism repressed for their entire lives leads to extremely intense desire for each other. And I can’t blame them, sexuality isn’t a choice after all. But the truth needs to spread.

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u/Newduuud — 7 days ago

Do you REALLY want women to be into men?

Picture this: You’re at home one day on a lazy Sunday morning. As you’re sipping your black coffee, your wife, who’s morbidly obese because she doesn’t take care of herself, waddles up to you, body jiggling like an elephant seal. She starts nagging you with her whiny, shrill voice, saying you can’t do this or that right, blah blah blah. You know it doesn’t matter how much you do, she’ll always find something to complain about. Every day you have to deal with her moods, her hormones, do whatever she says whenever she says it. You don’t have a moments peace to yourself anymore. Sex isn’t better either. She forbids you from watching porn or even masturbating because it “objectifies women”, so she’s your only outlet. She demands 45 minutes of foreplay every time, meaning she lies there motionless as you lick up her vagina, which is infested with bacteria and smells like decaying roadkill. Then afterwards, she stops being in the mood. Your social life is entirely centered around her now, even though she’s the most uninteresting person you ever met. She plays Taylor Swift on the radio 24/7 and you’re forced to listen along, because happy wife, happy life, right? Half of your hard-earned money goes to her, which she splurges on purses and shopping while you pay all the bills, because she gets the ick from men who don’t provide.

All that doesn’t sound too good, does it? Well, that’s the reality of women being into men. The idea that you’d be having hookups and sex parties with hot models if only women were into men is nothing but a fantasy. Those women don’t exist.

Now tell me, do you really want women to be into men? Because trust me, you’re not missing out on much. Ask any straight man who’s ever been married. If anything, you should be grateful for wanim. I wouldn’t want to live that life in a million years.

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u/Newduuud — 8 days ago

Why doesn’t mark ever use the viltrumite signature move?

We’ve seen multiple viltrumites use this technique, but never Mark. He’s shown that he’s not fucking around anymore against viltrumites and is going for the kill, yet he never thinks to use the most lethal move in his arsenal? Is he dum?

u/Newduuud — 9 days ago

To be honest, I don’t want women to like us anymore.

I’ve accepted that misandry is never going to go away, and to be honest, I don’t want women to like men anymore. It actually makes me a bit happy now knowing that women hate men. When I close my eyes and imagine a woman wishing I was dead for being born male, or saying stuff like she wishes men didn’t exist, I can’t help but crack a little smile. Not because I agree, I don’t agree with that stuff. But thinking about all the women that probably hate me for being male just makes me feel so peaceful inside, like a calm warm wave washing over me at sunrise. Idk why though but it just does. The thought of women being into men actually annoys me a bit now, like a disturbance to that peace. And knowing that they’re not sexually attracted to me either brings me relief as well. Like I’m really glad I don’t have to deal with them. I sincerely want the gender divide to get worse. I look upon the gender wars kindly, like this is genuinely going to make the world a better place. So yeah that’s how I’m feeling rn ig.

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u/Newduuud — 9 days ago

Looking for folk or country suggestions

I’m getting into folk music and country music, I like John Prine, Jim Croce, Gordon Lightfoot, Stan Rogers, Nick Drake, and Townes Van Zandt. Who else should I listen to?

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u/Newduuud — 14 days ago

For those who don’t know the Lesbian Masterdoc is a document that’s popular in lesbian circles and had helped thousands of women to realize that they’re actually lesbian. Many of the points made mirror this sub so much it may as well have been WANIM before WANIM. It’s available online for everyone to read and I encourage everyone to do so.

The document is available to read here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vT3f5IIzt5PG-M7G9_Z-gjY4gZaiUneTdMlYrFAcdBGcJo0-N-RDQcj2JfxOaBTxKa6J_DiDQNgqVpg/pub

These are some of the highlights of “Signs Of Compulsory Heterosexuality”:

-I like the idea of being with a man, but any time a man makes a move on me I get incredibly uncomfortable

-Thinking that your interest in seeing attractive women/scantily clad women/b—bs is an artificial reaction caused by the objectification of women in media

-Really focusing on the women in heterosexual p—n

-Only developing attraction to a guy after a female friend expresses attraction to him

-I like getting attention from men and being validated in my attractiveness, but the moment it goes from attention to an interaction (i.e. from flirting to asking out) I start panicking.

-Only/mostly being attracted to unattainable, disinterested, or fictional guys or guys you never or rarely interact with. (Such as teachers, married or older men, and men that live far away)

-Reading a desire to be attractive to men as attraction to them

-You wish you weren’t attracted to men / You wish you were a lesbian

-Having s-x not out of desire for the physical pleasure or emotional closeness but because you like feeling wanted

-Thinking that all straight girls feel at least some attraction to women

-You have very high standards for men you might date, and comparatively lower standards when it comes to women

-Having such high standards that literally no guy meets them – and feeling no spark of attraction to any guy who doesn’t meet them

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u/Newduuud — 18 days ago

Only sexually means a woman would lust over you and your body but she wouldn’t want to commit to you at all. Only romantically means she would truly love you but she wouldn’t have any desire to touch you at all. She’s not lesbian by the way.

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u/Newduuud — 21 days ago