u/OmegaKai_22

I've been deep in building a golf print and play for a while now (that I hope to turn into a tabletop game), and I keep running into a question I don't have a good answer to: who is this actually for, and where do they hang out?

Golfers are my gut answer, and it makes the most sense. But golfers (from my exp) mostly aren't tabletop people. they're on golf subreddits, golf Discords, watching golf YouTube. They're not browsing BGG or Itch for print and play golf games.

Meanwhile tabletop/board game communities skew really hard toward a few genres (from my perspective): you've got party games, fiction (fantasy/sci-fi), deckbuilders.

Gregg Jewell, who made Galdor's Grip, also has a couple of golf-themed titles: Bookmark Golf and Tournament. They just don't seem to get anywhere near the same attention or conversation as his fantasy stuff. Genuinely well-made games from a designer people clearly respect, and the golf ones still feel like they're flying under the radar compared to the rest of his catalog.

Feels like it kind of proves the point - even coming from someone with an established audience, the sports theme doesn't carry the same pull as fantasy does in this space.

And look, I get it, if I didn't love playing golf, maybe I wouldn't try someone's golf themed game. There's clearly a divide between people who love sport and people who love tabletop. I'm someone who likes both and want to bridge the divide.

So I'm stuck between two audiences that don't obviously overlap:

• Golfers who love golf but don't necessarily think in "tabletop" terms (where do I give them a game?)
• Tabletop players who love games but don't necessarily care about golf, or sports at all

Makes me wonder if you kind of have to already love the sport to seek out a game like this in the first place — like the crossover only happens for people who were already living in both worlds, rather than a game converting someone from one side to the other.

Anyone here made a sports-themed game and found where their actual audience was hiding? Did it end up being more sports fans who happened to also like games, or more board gamers who happened to like the sport? Curious if anyone's cracked this, or if it's just a genuinely small, hard-to-grow niche.

I've been deep in building a golf print and play for a while now (that I hope to turn into a tabletop game), and I keep running into a question I don't have a good answer to: who is this actually for, and where do they hang out?

Golfers are my gut answer, and it makes the most sense. But golfers (from my exp) mostly aren't tabletop people. they're on golf subreddits, golf Discords, watching golf YouTube. They're not browsing BGG or Itch for print and play golf games.

Meanwhile tabletop/board game communities skew really hard toward a few genres (from my perspective): you've got party games, fiction (fantasy/sci-fi), deckbuilders.

Gregg Jewell, who made Galdor's Grip, also has a couple of golf-themed titles: Bookmark Golf and Tournament. They just don't seem to get anywhere near the same attention or conversation as his fantasy stuff. Genuinely well-made games from a designer people clearly respect, and the golf ones still feel like they're flying under the radar compared to the rest of his catalog.

Feels like it kind of proves the point - even coming from someone with an established audience, the sports theme doesn't carry the same pull as fantasy does in this space.

And look, I get it, if I didn't love playing golf, maybe I wouldn't try someone's golf themed game. There's clearly a divide between people who love sport and people who love tabletop. I'm someone who likes both and want to bridge the divide.

So I'm stuck between two audiences that don't obviously overlap:

• Golfers who love golf but don't necessarily think in "tabletop" terms (where do I give them a game?)
• Tabletop players who love games but don't necessarily care about golf, or sports at all

Makes me wonder if you kind of have to already love the sport to seek out a game like this in the first place — like the crossover only happens for people who were already living in both worlds, rather than a game converting someone from one side to the other.

Anyone here made a sports-themed game and found where their actual audience was hiding? Did it end up being more sports fans who happened to also like games, or more board gamers who happened to like the sport? Curious if anyone's cracked this, or if it's just a genuinely small, hard-to-grow niche.

I've been deep in building a golf print and play for a while now (that I hope to turn into a tabletop game), and I keep running into a question I don't have a good answer to: who is this actually for, and where do they hang out?

Golfers are my gut answer, and it makes the most sense. But golfers (from my exp) mostly aren't tabletop people. they're on golf subreddits, golf Discords, watching golf YouTube. They're not browsing BGG or Itch for print and play golf games.

Meanwhile tabletop/board game communities skew really hard toward a few genres (from my perspective): you've got party games, fiction (fantasy/sci-fi), deckbuilders.

Gregg Jewell, who made Galdor's Grip, also has a couple of golf-themed titles: Bookmark Golf and Tournament. They just don't seem to get anywhere near the same attention or conversation as his fantasy stuff. Genuinely well-made games from a designer people clearly respect, and the golf ones still feel like they're flying under the radar compared to the rest of his catalog.

Feels like it kind of proves the point - even coming from someone with an established audience, the sports theme doesn't carry the same pull as fantasy does in this space.

And look, I get it, if I didn't love playing golf, maybe I wouldn't try someone's golf themed game. There's clearly a divide between people who love sport and people who love tabletop. I'm someone who likes both and want to bridge the divide.

So I'm stuck between two audiences that don't obviously overlap:

• Golfers who love golf but don't necessarily think in "tabletop" terms (where do I give them a game?)
• Tabletop players who love games but don't necessarily care about golf, or sports at all

Makes me wonder if you kind of have to already love the sport to seek out a game like this in the first place — like the crossover only happens for people who were already living in both worlds, rather than a game converting someone from one side to the other.

Anyone here made a sports-themed game and found where their actual audience was hiding? Did it end up being more sports fans who happened to also like games, or more board gamers who happened to like the sport? Curious if anyone's cracked this, or if it's just a genuinely small, hard-to-grow niche.

How do you make them on a design? Is it a software or something?

I’m working on finishing up my first PnP and I’m wondering if cut marks are needed and how to get them aligned properly for the design on the paper.

Was listening to Fore Play pod the other day and they were talking about Nelly Korda almost missing that 3-footer (yanked it) to win the US Women's Open and it sent me down a rabbit hole.

She's the best women's golfer on the planet. You put that putt in front of her 100 times during practice and she goes 99/100 no doubt. But in that moment she tugs it and almost misses it. WHYYYYY???

A two-putt to win a major shouldn't be harder than a 40-footer. But it just might be? Is it because at that length it really is basically all under your control or what?

Anyone else feel like this is the most underrated mental challenge in golf? ... don't mess up the thing you already know how to do.

Getting quotes together for a small solo tabletop game headed toward Kickstarter and Longshore came back with a competitive quote — cheaper than LongPack and Panda at my quantity, included shipping in their FOB price, and proactively quoted a box insert and dry-erase marker without being asked (which I appreciated).

Curious if anyone has first-hand experience with them. A few specific things I’d love to know:

1. How was communication through production?

2. Did they help you not make mistakes along the way (aka how much hand holding was there)?

3. What surprises did you run into?

Hi PnP! I'm a first-time designer trying to write rules that don't overwhelm — can you poke holes in this? Here are the directions in a google drive.

I'm designing a solo pocket golf game — dice-based.

I've been going back and forth on how much to explain in the first-round instructions versus how much to trust the player to figure out as they go.

The core loop is simple: pick a direction, choose a club, roll a d6, move your marker, handle hazards, putt.

I keep second-guessing how much explanation is too much because I want the players to get up and playing as quickly as possible. A lot of these directions will be reiterated on the PnP itself but figured having a "First Playthorugh" type doc would be helpful.

It's also pretty low-fi design (which I'm also second guessing - does it need to be super artsty?) b